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It's on Nat Geo On Demand as well if you get thatWell worth checking out IMO
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
This is fun:
The Coen Brothers Movies Ranked from Best to Worst
The odd thing is the title is wrong. The title should have read "from worst to best."
The Coen Brothers Movies Ranked from Best to Worst
The odd thing is the title is wrong. The title should have read "from worst to best."
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Says "From Worst to First" for the original article title, but yeah...Miller's ridiculously low, No Country surprisingly low, and Barton Fink WTF too high.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
O, Brother and Hudsucker do not belong in the top 6. Obviously I think Miller's is too low.
scoobygang
Footballguy
I'll defend the Barton Fink placement (I'd have had it at #3). I find Fargo to be about the least interesting movie the Coen's have ever made, so I think the #1 placement is ridiculous. Hudsucker Proxy was higher than I expected but still lower than I rank it.
Not even worth engaging a critic who thinks Miller's Crossing is like a well-made episode of Boardwalk Empire. C'mon.
Not even worth engaging a critic who thinks Miller's Crossing is like a well-made episode of Boardwalk Empire. C'mon.
hooter311
Footballguy
One of the most nuanced films ever made, even for the Coen's.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Barton Fink is an interesting movie. I can see why you'd have it at #3.Not getting your criticism of Fargo, though. I think it captures the spirit of the mid-west (intelligent, but a bit naive and gullible) quite well. Maybe it's because I'm from Minnesota - I grew up just across the river from Farg
ne of the most negative experiences in my life was similar to Tom Regan's - so I really identify with that movie.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Sadly, I think I've only seen about 5-6 of those. Still haven't watched Miller's Crossing or Blood Simple. I'll take care of that soon. I usually love their dramas and hate their comedies so don't know why I haven't gotten around to those two movies.
hooter311
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Barton Fink is a beautiful movie, but ultimately unsatisfying. I'd rank it near the bottom along with The Man Who Wasn't There.And Fargo #1? No way. Really love that movie, but Miller's Crossing and No Country are the two best Coen movies.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Miller's Crossing is essentially the source material for things like Boardwalk. Milller's Crossing is a perfect film. Incredible performances, great script, great characters, and thanks to Barry Sonnenfeld - some of the greatest cinematography ever captured on film.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Blood Simple is cool. Very low budget, but still a very creative movie. Miller's Crossing has been hyped a lot, and for good reason. I think it's a perfect movie, and that's very rare.
saintfool
Dead sexy
are you me? exotica is maybe my favorite egoyan. i saw a midnight viewing of it in the theater when it came out. i worked in a video store at the time and was pretty jaded about film but was blown away by its choices. i just didn't know where the film was going scene to scene and loved it for that. i went the very next night because i couldn't get it out of my head.
hooter311
Footballguy
I have a confession. The only Egoyan film I've ever seen was The Sweet Hereafter in film class, and I wasn't impressed at all. Am I really missing something or is this strictly art house crowd entertainment? I've looked into nearly all his titles and none of them sound remotely interesting.
If anyone could recommend me just one to take in, I'm very curious to see what I've been missing.
If anyone could recommend me just one to take in, I'm very curious to see what I've been missing.
El Floppo
Footballguy
great googly moogly. If you didn't like Sweet Hereafter, don't bother with Egoyan- the rest are pretty much the same... which is to say, brilliant.
saintfool
Dead sexy
i would think that "the sweet hereafter" would be the most accessible and successful of his films because it's an adaptation of a great novel by russell banks. however, i haven't seen "chloe" or "adoration" yet. some of the difficulty. i would steer clear of "where the truth lies" or his early work because it's a more personal kind of film (or dated or both). it's interesting but a kind of acquired taste. i don't know. egoyan is like his fellow canadian, cronenberg, in that he's often a little removed from his film subjects. he's less psychological than cronenberg but more personal.
hooter311
Footballguy
Thanks, I guess I just need to watch it again. I was only 18 the first time around.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I think it's by far his best film. I will say that at 18, I viewed movies completely different than I do now. I didn't much care for Apocalypse Now when I was 18, but now it's on my top 10 all time favorite list. I think The Sweet Hereafter is a brilliant movie and worth another look.
belljr
Footballguy
Avatar - I did not see it in 3D - I could see how that would have added a "wow" factor.
It still looked really good but it didn't really capture me and was way too long. I even started going on about the ending about 30 minutes before it got there and my wife who saw it already asks if I already watched it.
I'll say 3/5
It still looked really good but it didn't really capture me and was way too long. I even started going on about the ending about 30 minutes before it got there and my wife who saw it already asks if I already watched it.
I'll say 3/5
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
14. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) 13. Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
12. The Ladykillers (2004)
11. Burn After Reading (2008)
10. Miller's Crossing (1990)
9. Blood Simple (1984)
8. A Serious Man (2009)
7. No Country for Old Men (2007)
6. The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
5. The Big Lebowski (1998)
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
3. Raising Arizona (1987)
2. Barton Fink (1991)
1. Fargo (1996)
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Regarding Avatar:
I can't remember if I posted this thought before, but I had a minor revelation about the movie. The wife and I often agree about films. I can't think of anyone else who so closely mirrors my taste. But we strongly disagreed about Avatar. She enjoyed the visuals, but thought the acting and writing were just too awful to make the movie more than an effects-fest. I loved the movie and I've seen it three times.
Then I got to thinking about this. Children cannot really differentiate good acting from bad acting. They can't differentiate good writing from bad writing. So when I watched the original Star Wars trilogy as a kid, I loved the movies and was swept away by them despite all the cliches and the sketchy acting.
So with Avatar, you have a movie that either sweeps you up in its world or it doesn't. I was so immersed in the movie, the silly script and the ham-fisted acting didn't phase me at all.
I can't remember if I posted this thought before, but I had a minor revelation about the movie. The wife and I often agree about films. I can't think of anyone else who so closely mirrors my taste. But we strongly disagreed about Avatar. She enjoyed the visuals, but thought the acting and writing were just too awful to make the movie more than an effects-fest. I loved the movie and I've seen it three times.
Then I got to thinking about this. Children cannot really differentiate good acting from bad acting. They can't differentiate good writing from bad writing. So when I watched the original Star Wars trilogy as a kid, I loved the movies and was swept away by them despite all the cliches and the sketchy acting.
So with Avatar, you have a movie that either sweeps you up in its world or it doesn't. I was so immersed in the movie, the silly script and the ham-fisted acting didn't phase me at all.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Having James Cameron hit me over the head repeatedly with his eco-hammer spoiled any enjoyment of the story for me.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Yeah- this.I can take bad acting in a big ol' visual extravaganza. I can take bad writing too. But a ham-handed story-line that so easily could've been tweaked... that's a holy trinity o' bad.
Still enjoyed the movie for what it was- visually amazing.
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed. If I hadn't seen the "Going native" storyline in every film from Pocahontas to Dances with Wolves to Last Samurai ad infinitum I would have found this story more interesting. Westernization, corporations and anything even remotely associated with modernization are bad and anything natural is inherently good, we get it already now get back to the 3-D dragons'n'####!
Carver
Footballguy
That..
And the story overall was just ATROCIOUS. They managed to hit every level of suck possible. TURRIBLE.
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
I'll go one more...the SFX, while mindblowing, were too much. It felt like I was watching a cartoon a lot of times.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'll go one more...the SFX, while mindblowing, were too much. It felt like I was watching a cartoon a lot of times.
it wasn't a cartoon?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I liked Where The Truth Lies quite a bit and didnt even realize it was an Egoyan film. I think the only other film of his that Ive seen was Exotica, which I thought was more well made than I could say I enjoyed it. I have a feeling I might think that way about most of his movies.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
......I think I should probably revisit Blood Simple as Ive only seen it once and literally remember nothing about it as welljdoggydogg said:
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
hooter311
Footballguy
Really? The Man Who Wasn't There is probably my favorite Noir film from the last 20 years. Every scene is so carefully constructed and framed. Maybe they embraced Billy Bob a bit too much as "the simple man", but its hard not to choke on the smoke when Gandolfini lights up another stogie.When I think of Fargo, I can't get the picture of Frances McDormand standing in the snow and looking and talking stupid. Buscemi and Macy nail their roles, but it's probably my least favorite of the Coen's serious films to watch.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
The Man Who Wasn't There was a beautiful tribute to film noir. But I didn't find it all that interesting in terms of characters and plot.Really? The Man Who Wasn't There is probably my favorite Noir film from the last 20 years. Every scene is so carefully constructed and framed. Maybe they embraced Billy Bob a bit too much as "the simple man", but its hard not to choke on the smoke when Gandolfini lights up another stogie.When I think of Fargo, I can't get the picture of Frances McDormand standing in the snow and looking and talking stupid. Buscemi and Macy nail their roles, but it's probably my least favorite of the Coen's serious films to watch.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
Fargo is their best.A Serious Man is their worst.Really? The Man Who Wasn't There is probably my favorite Noir film from the last 20 years. Every scene is so carefully constructed and framed. Maybe they embraced Billy Bob a bit too much as "the simple man", but its hard not to choke on the smoke when Gandolfini lights up another stogie.When I think of Fargo, I can't get the picture of Frances McDormand standing in the snow and looking and talking stupid. Buscemi and Macy nail their roles, but it's probably my least favorite of the Coen's serious films to watch.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
But that's the WHOLE idea. She looks and talks stupid, but she's far, far from being actually stupid. In fact it's quite the contrary as she correctly divines what actually happened. She shows that she's a really good cop.The only flaw she has is that she can't conceive that someone would lie to her. That's why the Mike Yanagita character is so important. She can't believe that he would lie to her about his wife dying. When she realizes that he lied to her, she also realizes that Jerry did too.
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Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
I liked it too. It had just the right blend of wackiness (though the wackiness always seemed weirdly appropriate in Bruges) and emotional depth to strike a chord or two somewhere in me.In Bruges - really liked it, especially the ending
hooter311
Footballguy
Preposterous. Intolerable Cruelty has to be their worst (least creative) and its not even really close and it's not like it's bad but it's probably the only one you couldn't immediately tell there were a couple geniuses behind it.A Serious Man is one of their best and would have won Best Picture that year if I was the only person in the world voting.I'm glad most people don't care for Ladykillers (except for jdoggy), it's like my own little special treat when I watch it.If I was limited to watching only one filmmaker's works for the rest of my life it would most certainly be the Coen's.
hooter311
Footballguy
Thanks for bringing this up, I had never seen it before last night. Don't forget Keifer Sutherland and Chris Penn from the cast.Watching this made me realize that 40 years from now Sean Penn will be in the debate as the greatest actor of all time. His body of work is simply incredible since he was a kid. I don't agree with the man on almost anything else he does, including as a director. I hated Into the Wild and still don't know what to think about The Pledge.
Love the part where Walken freaks out and tears around the field in his truck throwing a tantrum, classic. Wish it had a better ending than just the still screen. Really sick that it's based on a true story. Damn tractor thieves.
3.5/5
jamny
Footballguy
Out of the ones I've seen, this is my list:
11. Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
10. Fargo (1996)
9. The Ladykillers (2004)
8. Burn After Reading (2008)
7. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
6. No Country for Old Men (2007)
5. The Big Lebowski (1998)
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
3. Blood Simple (1984)
2. Miller's Crossing (1990)
1. Raising Arizona (1987)
11. Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
10. Fargo (1996)
9. The Ladykillers (2004)
8. Burn After Reading (2008)
7. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
6. No Country for Old Men (2007)
5. The Big Lebowski (1998)
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
3. Blood Simple (1984)
2. Miller's Crossing (1990)
1. Raising Arizona (1987)
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
Took me a while to get into it, but it gave me a the rest of the crowd several really good laughs.Worth seeing if you've got the time.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
Wow - you and I are 180 degrees apart.A Serious Man was the WORST movie I saw last year. Boring, I hated everone in it, a terrible abrupt ending. I couldn't believe the Cohen brothers made such garbage. Even low budget sequels were better than it.hooter311 said:
Do you love Magnolia? I hate that one, too.
TylerRoseFan
Footballguy
I'm not sold on it. Saw it late one night and was tired. Perhaps I need to see it again.joffer said:In Bruges - really liked it, especially the ending
