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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but Scorcese & DeNiro's next project has attracted interest from Pacino & Pesci.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/old-and-ne...llas-gathering/

It's Goodfellas meets Casino meets Heat. So if you're a fan of those great Martin Scorsese mob movies, get ready: I'm told Al Pacino and Joe Pesci are now circling The Irishman, the mob drama that Scorsese and Robert De Niro have been working on together based on the exploits of mob hitman Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran as chronicled in the book I Heard You Paint Houses. The pic's being developed at Paramount by De Niro and Jane Rosenthal's Tribeca Productions.

Pacino has worked with De Niro in the Michael Mann-directed classic Heat, as well as Righteous Kill. Pesci and De Niro of course teamed with Scorsese on Goodfellas, Casino and Raging Bull. Steve Zaillian wrote the script.

Right now, Scorsese's off directing the 3D Hugh Cabret for GK Films, and this is one of a couple pictures he's considering next. Others include Silence, based on the Shusako Endo novel. Scorsese and GK Films nearly had the pic together with Benicio Del Toro, Daniel Day-Lewis and Gabriel Garcia Bernal in the Jay Cocks-scripted saga of Jesuits who face danger as they preach Christianity and try to find their mentor in 17th Century Japan. Scorsese will be in New York Wednesday as HBO premieres the pilot he directed for Boardwalk Empire, which is superb.
Oh my, should have been done 10 years ago if they were going to pull it off right. Have you seen what Pesci looks like these days? (ask chet)
 
I watched "Run, Fat Boy, Run". Normally, British comedies are hit and miss with me, but I enjoyed this one. There were plenty of lol moments.3.5/5
I have been avoiding this because I liked Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, it didn't look good. Maybe I will give it a try
I would avoid it. It has a few moments but they are very few. The difference between this film and those other films is david schwimmer directed it. simon and thandie can only do so much.
It definitely isnt on the level of Shaun or Fuzz, but this movie creeps into romcom territory and is better than 90% of those types of movies.
 
Mission: Impossible

Re-watched it this week. This movie is iconic, although I don't think it gets much respect as an action great. What's not to like? DePalma, Cruise, and some fantastic set pieces make MI a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
Strongly agree with this one. Lots of great scenes and set pieces. Great Emilio death cameo as well.
Definitely...I know JDD isnt on the The Rock boat, but since Die Hard, I dont think theres been a better pure action movie than The Rock or MI. And while MI3 was a nice comeback, the original deserves even more credit. Maybe the first action movie that brought in the computer/interweb angle with it full force.
 
A Beautiful Mind

Possibly great film, but the hallucinations were hokey as hell. Especially since John Nash only heard voices, didn't actually see imaginary people. Still, Crowe is a better actor than I had previously given him credit for, he really disappears into the role here. The two scenes where Connelly discovers his "offices" were actually incredibly spooky, both of them gave me goosebumps. Good stuff, but in the right hands this could have been handled much better.

4/5
Pretty much agree with that, although Ive always thought Crowe was a pretty good actor. I think this won Best Pic?! If not, it was close, but there are a bunch of scenes that come off as cheesy, just like Bettany's character in the entire movie. I like Crowe and Connelly, and Bettany, but the whole did not add up to the sum of its parts.
 
Hot Tub Time Machine- Pretty funny movie. I hate Cusack but this bearable. The other three main actors were very funny. This isn't Citizen Kane or Animal House but I laughed a ton and saw boobs so yeah it'll do for a Sunday Night.Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- Another actor, Jim Carrey, who I tend to hate but was very good in this movie. Strange and mesmerizing at all times. Kinda like vanilla sky save less intense. I liked it and would recommend it to people who like trippy movies. Kate Winslet is hot in this one as well. Serpico- This one was recommended by my old man and was by far my favorite of the trio. Can't believe I had never seen it. Pacino was amazing, the music was outstanding, and the story is just perfectly 1970's. All around awesome. They don't make movies gritty like this anymore and that grit, that imperfection, is what makes this movie ### #### perfect imo.
Reverse the order of these movies, and that looks like a wednesday night when I was 19 and started drinking at 6pm
 
Just kidding. But seriously, Carlito's Way is the best thing he's ever done, that scene with him in the bathroom is probably my all time favorite Pacino clip.
:thumbup: Im sure were in the minority, but I'll take Carlito's Way over Scarface any day of teh week. Very likely Pacino's best performance of the last 30 years, yet Sean Penn steals the movie in arguably his best performance - and he's possibly had more great ones than Pacino at this point. Leguizamo and Guzman pretty much built their stereotype characters from this movie.

I think it was Chaka who said he never saw it, but yeah, Top O the Queue!

 
Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but Scorcese & DeNiro's next project has attracted interest from Pacino & Pesci.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/old-and-ne...llas-gathering/

It's Goodfellas meets Casino meets Heat. So if you're a fan of those great Martin Scorsese mob movies, get ready: I'm told Al Pacino and Joe Pesci are now circling The Irishman, the mob drama that Scorsese and Robert De Niro have been working on together based on the exploits of mob hitman Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran as chronicled in the book I Heard You Paint Houses. The pic's being developed at Paramount by De Niro and Jane Rosenthal's Tribeca Productions.

Pacino has worked with De Niro in the Michael Mann-directed classic Heat, as well as Righteous Kill. Pesci and De Niro of course teamed with Scorsese on Goodfellas, Casino and Raging Bull. Steve Zaillian wrote the script.

Right now, Scorsese's off directing the 3D Hugh Cabret for GK Films, and this is one of a couple pictures he's considering next. Others include Silence, based on the Shusako Endo novel. Scorsese and GK Films nearly had the pic together with Benicio Del Toro, Daniel Day-Lewis and Gabriel Garcia Bernal in the Jay Cocks-scripted saga of Jesuits who face danger as they preach Christianity and try to find their mentor in 17th Century Japan. Scorsese will be in New York Wednesday as HBO premieres the pilot he directed for Boardwalk Empire, which is superb.
:lmao: Even if its 10 or 20 years too late, Id much rather see Scorsese direct that Pacino/Pesci flick than the bolded

 
Bob Roberts

Recommended by this thread. Entertaining, but its sad that we've seen much more ridiculous humor out of high ranking politicians since.

3.5/5

 
Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but Scorcese & DeNiro's next project has attracted interest from Pacino & Pesci.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/old-and-ne...llas-gathering/

It's Goodfellas meets Casino meets Heat. So if you're a fan of those great Martin Scorsese mob movies, get ready: I'm told Al Pacino and Joe Pesci are now circling The Irishman, the mob drama that Scorsese and Robert De Niro have been working on together based on the exploits of mob hitman Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran as chronicled in the book I Heard You Paint Houses. The pic's being developed at Paramount by De Niro and Jane Rosenthal's Tribeca Productions.

Pacino has worked with De Niro in the Michael Mann-directed classic Heat, as well as Righteous Kill. Pesci and De Niro of course teamed with Scorsese on Goodfellas, Casino and Raging Bull. Steve Zaillian wrote the script.

Right now, Scorsese's off directing the 3D Hugh Cabret for GK Films, and this is one of a couple pictures he's considering next. Others include Silence, based on the Shusako Endo novel. Scorsese and GK Films nearly had the pic together with Benicio Del Toro, Daniel Day-Lewis and Gabriel Garcia Bernal in the Jay Cocks-scripted saga of Jesuits who face danger as they preach Christianity and try to find their mentor in 17th Century Japan. Scorsese will be in New York Wednesday as HBO premieres the pilot he directed for Boardwalk Empire, which is superb.
I read this yesterday. Very exciting.
 
How was pre-Swingers Favreau any different? Gutter from PCU and D-Bob from Rudy were about the same type of character as he plays now. Except he is rich as ####. Favreau is probably one of the most powerful men in Hollywood that you would never expect.
He also puts himself in his own movies but you don't mind so much because he seems like the kind of guy who would help you move your couch.
:rolleyes: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a huge jerk. He's gotta be worth close 9 figures, if not more. I would be if I had that kind of money, so I don't blame you Jon.
9 Figures? Did he make THAT much scratch on the back end of Iron Man?
 
The American

Surprised to see people complaining that this movie was slow. The American isn't slow, it's building tension. I have seen far too many movies with countless explosions. Enough already. I liked it a lot. 4/5 stars.
Building tension? For what? That insanely epic ending? :rolleyes: It was horrible. I don't need countless explosions to keep me entertained, but I do like to see a movie move along in a plot at more than a snails pace.
:confused: May have been better served if it didn't have Clooney in the lead. He's built a kind of vibe for himself that didn't lend itself very well to this role.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Watched "Couples Retreat" after coming home drunk last night. -2 stars.
What a disappointing movie. Too much talent here to waste on this nonsense.
Yeah. And is it just me or is Kristin Davis just a really terrible actress? I watched the first "Sex in the City" movie (long story, don't ask) and somehow she managed to stand out in what was already a giant pool of fail.
 
jdoggydogg said:
Watched "Couples Retreat" after coming home drunk last night. -2 stars.
What a disappointing movie. Too much talent here to waste on this nonsense.
Yeah. And is it just me or is Kristin Davis just a really terrible actress? I watched the first "Sex in the City" movie (long story, don't ask) and somehow she managed to stand out in what was already a giant pool of fail.
pretty much all of those SITC actresses stink.
 
How was pre-Swingers Favreau any different? Gutter from PCU and D-Bob from Rudy were about the same type of character as he plays now. Except he is rich as ####. Favreau is probably one of the most powerful men in Hollywood that you would never expect.
He also puts himself in his own movies but you don't mind so much because he seems like the kind of guy who would help you move your couch.
:moneybag: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a huge jerk. He's gotta be worth close 9 figures, if not more. I would be if I had that kind of money, so I don't blame you Jon.
9 Figures? Did he make THAT much scratch on the back end of Iron Man?
He was an Executive Producer and Director on both Iron Mans, IM grossed 318 million, IM 2 grossed 312 million. He also directed Elf which grossed 173 million on a 33 million dollar budget.I'd say he pocketed close to 100 million combined easy on those 3 productions.ETA: Quick google search estimates his net worth at 40 million, so maybe I'm way off.
 
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How was pre-Swingers Favreau any different? Gutter from PCU and D-Bob from Rudy were about the same type of character as he plays now. Except he is rich as ####. Favreau is probably one of the most powerful men in Hollywood that you would never expect.
He also puts himself in his own movies but you don't mind so much because he seems like the kind of guy who would help you move your couch.
:thumbup: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a huge jerk. He's gotta be worth close 9 figures, if not more. I would be if I had that kind of money, so I don't blame you Jon.
9 Figures? Did he make THAT much scratch on the back end of Iron Man?
He was an Executive Producer and Director on both Iron Mans, IM grossed 318 million, IM 2 grossed 312 million. He also directed Elf which grossed 173 million on a 33 million dollar budget.I'd say he pocketed close to 100 million combined easy on those 3 productions.
12.5% of the gross seems like a lot but I don't know much about hollywood salaries.
 
jdoggydogg said:
Watched "Couples Retreat" after coming home drunk last night. -2 stars.
What a disappointing movie. Too much talent here to waste on this nonsense.
Yeah. And is it just me or is Kristin Davis just a really terrible actress? I watched the first "Sex in the City" movie (long story, don't ask) and somehow she managed to stand out in what was already a giant pool of fail.
pretty much all of those SITC actresses stink.
Good point. But she was really bad and then she showed up in Couples Retreat.
 
jdoggydogg said:
Watched "Couples Retreat" after coming home drunk last night. -2 stars.
What a disappointing movie. Too much talent here to waste on this nonsense.
Yeah. And is it just me or is Kristin Davis just a really terrible actress? I watched the first "Sex in the City" movie (long story, don't ask) and somehow she managed to stand out in what was already a giant pool of fail.
Is anyone in that show / movie a good actress?
 
How was pre-Swingers Favreau any different? Gutter from PCU and D-Bob from Rudy were about the same type of character as he plays now. Except he is rich as ####. Favreau is probably one of the most powerful men in Hollywood that you would never expect.
He also puts himself in his own movies but you don't mind so much because he seems like the kind of guy who would help you move your couch.
:thumbup: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a huge jerk. He's gotta be worth close 9 figures, if not more. I would be if I had that kind of money, so I don't blame you Jon.
9 Figures? Did he make THAT much scratch on the back end of Iron Man?
He was an Executive Producer and Director on both Iron Mans, IM grossed 318 million, IM 2 grossed 312 million. He also directed Elf which grossed 173 million on a 33 million dollar budget.I'd say he pocketed close to 100 million combined easy on those 3 productions.ETA: Quick google search estimates his net worth at 40 million, so maybe I'm way off.
When Favreau made the original Iron Man, he'd never directed a big action movie before. So the studio took a risk with that. I bet he didn't make a ton on the original. The sequel, however, surely made Favreau 10 times more than he had on any previous project.
 
Lymelife - Indy family drama set in Long Island suburbia in the late 70s. If you like this sort of thing, this one is very good, altho its a genre that's been done countless times. I particularly liked the cast thought they were all first-rate, particularly Alex Baldwin and the Culkin brothers. Romantic interest Emma Roberts is destined for fame. She's got the "it" factor. Executive produced by Scorcese, so you my expectations were higher than normal for this type film and those expectations were met. 3.5/5 stars
Saw on some TV channel a few days ago they were showing old interviews with the cast of this film promoting the movie, which is pretty damn odd considering it's a 2008 indy film, although it was ~2am at the time. It looked intriguing enough and considering some of the names in the cast I decided to check it out. Pretty good film. Apart from a few scenes, I thought the acting was well done. Was really impressed with Rory Culkin in the lead role, don't think I've ever seen him in a movie before but I came away impressed. I really liked how the character with Lyme's disease was portrayed, particularly the feelings of tennitis it enduces for the audience.

Was also astounded to discover Scorcese was an excutive producer. Nothing about the movie suggested that. Still a good film though.

 
Red Cliff: A visually fantastic movie but the story line felt very thin. Other than the War Strategist (he doesn't seem to be listed on imdb) there was very little character development. You get a superficial view of everyone but barely enough to learn anything about them. Maybe it's just me, but I had a very hard time keeping all of the characters straight. Their names were all very similar and when in their helmets and armor, it was difficult to tell them apart. It felt like the movie was entirely about the planning of an attack and the attack itself with little else. Nothing wrong with that imo but from reading other reviews it seems people are raving about this movie and I'm not sure why... great battle scenes but that is about it. 3.5/5
 
Red Cliff: A visually fantastic movie but the story line felt very thin. Other than the War Strategist (he doesn't seem to be listed on imdb) there was very little character development. You get a superficial view of everyone but barely enough to learn anything about them. Maybe it's just me, but I had a very hard time keeping all of the characters straight. Their names were all very similar and when in their helmets and armor, it was difficult to tell them apart. It felt like the movie was entirely about the planning of an attack and the attack itself with little else. Nothing wrong with that imo but from reading other reviews it seems people are raving about this movie and I'm not sure why... great battle scenes but that is about it. 3.5/5
Did you watch the shortened American version or the four hour international?
 
Red Cliff: A visually fantastic movie but the story line felt very thin. Other than the War Strategist (he doesn't seem to be listed on imdb) there was very little character development. You get a superficial view of everyone but barely enough to learn anything about them. Maybe it's just me, but I had a very hard time keeping all of the characters straight. Their names were all very similar and when in their helmets and armor, it was difficult to tell them apart. It felt like the movie was entirely about the planning of an attack and the attack itself with little else. Nothing wrong with that imo but from reading other reviews it seems people are raving about this movie and I'm not sure why... great battle scenes but that is about it. 3.5/5
Did you watch the shortened American version or the four hour international?
:ph34r: I'm guessing the shortened American version. It was about 2:30-3 hours and was not dubbed.

 
Red Cliff:
Did you watch the shortened American version or the four hour international?
:kicksrock: I'm guessing the shortened American version. It was about 2:30-3 hours and was not dubbed.
Then I can see why you felt like you did. The longer version gets into each character quite a bit more.
Agreed. It's amazing that a 2:30 movie falls short on character development but there is so much going on in Red Cliff that it simply requires the full version to enjoy the whole story (although they could have shortened the dueling banjos portion in the long version).I can see how the names can be a problem (in either version) if you have never read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, or played the turn based PC game.

I think this movie was phenomenal but you definitely need to gear up for the four hour version because the shortened version is lacking in many key elements.

 
Saw Ghost Writer

Had me really interested but had stupid plot point in middle and weak ending.

Overall it was good except for the flaws listed above.

 
Ironman:

Watched it for the 2nd time, and it didn't grow on me at all. While he is far more entertaining to watch, I think Downey is getting into Cage territory and is just playing the same obnoxious ### in all his movies. I know it's just a superhero movie, but even they can have some sort of depth and make you feel for the hero's plight in some way. I usually like these types of movies b/c there is some sort of struggle for the hero about what they are doing, how they got their powers, etc.. there is nothing like that here. While it's a decent eye candy action movie, there really isn't much else to this movie. Was a disappointment for me and was just a slight step up from the other disappointing action movie I've seen recently - Terminator: Salvation.

 
Johnny Got His Gun :lmao:

I've always wanted to see this since Metallica's 'One' video. Library just got the rerelease. Pretty powerful flick. Not exactly sure how I think about it. Asks some pretty serious existential questions. Well crafted. Depressing, but it has meaning if that makes any sense. Damn.

4/5

 
Kramer v. Kramer: Another classic. Hoffman was great and the story is deep but the movie moves at a weird pace. I'd preferred a longer movie if it meant a more fluid and less rushed pace at the end.

Jesus Camp: Documentary about evangelical christian kids at a religious camp in North Dakota. Somehow this managed to be sadder than KvK. Profoundly depressing to hear kids talk about how horrible the world is. Interesting to see how young and how articulate these kids are about their faith.

 
9

Visually appealing moving. Ending was meh. 2.5/5
I agree on the ending (and said as much a couple pages back). However, in addition to being visually cool, I really enjoyed the completely original setting and storyline. I'd say it's more 3.5/5
I feel this movie is a perfect example of wasted potential. It felt hurried and they forced too much without giving the audience time to digest what were actually some very powerful concepts.
 
9

Visually appealing moving. Ending was meh. 2.5/5
I agree on the ending (and said as much a couple pages back). However, in addition to being visually cool, I really enjoyed the completely original setting and storyline. I'd say it's more 3.5/5
I feel this movie is a perfect example of wasted potential. It felt hurried and they forced too much without giving the audience time to digest what were actually some very powerful concepts.
:moneybag:
 
hooter311 said:
Chaka said:
Drifter said:
TylerRoseFan said:
9

Visually appealing moving. Ending was meh. 2.5/5
I agree on the ending (and said as much a couple pages back). However, in addition to being visually cool, I really enjoyed the completely original setting and storyline. I'd say it's more 3.5/5
I feel this movie is a perfect example of wasted potential. It felt hurried and they forced too much without giving the audience time to digest what were actually some very powerful concepts.
:goodposting:
:shrug:
 
Just finished John Waters: This Filthy World. Absolutely brilliant. This is totally a stand up comedy/documentary/biography but so great. This movie has given me so many ideas for other movies to watch. Insightful, clever and allows a peak into taboo cultures and subcultures. He is so great in his delivery for a director/producer. Giggle most of the time and LOL a few times.

Available on Netfilx on Demand.

 
This Film is Not Yet Rated

I knew the MPAA was flawed, but I never knew it was this messed up. Ran by a handful of blowhards that think they know what's best for this country with their ratings. I don't argue that a system needs to be in place, but I don't see how a bit of transparency and more turnover would hurt anything. By slapping NC-17 ratings on more rough cuts then I had ever realized, they are censoring a lot of material they have no business touching. There was no reason for films like The Cooler or Boys Don't Cry to have to remove anything. Also, extremely unfair that they give studios a list of what needs to be cut from the film to get a different rating and vague responses to independent filmmakers. Kind of interesting that only established guys like Matt Stone, Kevin Smith, and John Waters would even go on camera to say anything damning about them over fear of the backlash. Props to these guys for always "keeping it real" and being able to add their own intelligent insight instead of just attacking. Kevin Smith will always be a much better human being than a film maker, and there is nothing wrong with that. The 3rd act stunt was pretty amusing when the system was actually challenged.

3/5

Nothing will blow your mind, but worth a watch for intellectual value.

 
This Film is Not Yet Rated

I knew the MPAA was flawed, but I never knew it was this messed up. Ran by a handful of blowhards that think they know what's best for this country with their ratings. I don't argue that a system needs to be in place, but I don't see how a bit of transparency and more turnover would hurt anything. By slapping NC-17 ratings on more rough cuts then I had ever realized, they are censoring a lot of material they have no business touching. There was no reason for films like The Cooler or Boys Don't Cry to have to remove anything. Also, extremely unfair that they give studios a list of what needs to be cut from the film to get a different rating and vague responses to independent filmmakers. Kind of interesting that only established guys like Matt Stone, Kevin Smith, and John Waters would even go on camera to say anything damning about them over fear of the backlash. Props to these guys for always "keeping it real" and being able to add their own intelligent insight instead of just attacking. Kevin Smith will always be a much better human being than a film maker, and there is nothing wrong with that. The 3rd act stunt was pretty amusing when the system was actually challenged.

3/5

Nothing will blow your mind, but worth a watch for intellectual value.
Even though it felt like this doc had a feminist agenda it is hard to argue with their stance and I found the whole process fascinating, illuminating and frustrating (in a good way).
 
Even though it felt like this doc had a feminist agenda it is hard to argue with their stance and I found the whole process fascinating, illuminating and frustrating (in a good way).
It definitely boiled down to a dispute over female orgasms, hip thrusting in sex scenes, sex toys, and gay or multi-partner sex scenes.There was never any talk of any type of hardcore violence deserving an NC-17 rating, which is silly. To me it makes more sense to me to label films like Saw and Hostel "NC-17" and leave films like the Cooler and Boys Don't Cry an "R". It's equally ridiculous that the NC-17 rating is such a taboo in our culture. Theaters should be able and willing to show NC-17 films to adults without the fear of becoming porn houses.
 
Even though it felt like this doc had a feminist agenda it is hard to argue with their stance and I found the whole process fascinating, illuminating and frustrating (in a good way).
It definitely boiled down to a dispute over female orgasms, hip thrusting in sex scenes, sex toys, and gay or multi-partner sex scenes.There was never any talk of any type of hardcore violence deserving an NC-17 rating, which is silly. To me it makes more sense to me to label films like Saw and Hostel "NC-17" and leave films like the Cooler and Boys Don't Cry an "R". It's equally ridiculous that the NC-17 rating is such a taboo in our culture. Theaters should be able and willing to show NC-17 films to adults without the fear of becoming porn houses.
You'll also note, for example, that all the male P.I.s were made to look like fools and the lesbian P.I.s were made to look like geniuses. I am sure there was plenty of editing involved in that process. It was a common theme of the documentary. But whatever, I absolutely agree with their point.I think that point about the acceptance of violence was valid. The same point was also brilliantly made by Matt Stone and Trey Parker in the South Park movie, unfortunately it seems to often get lost in the fact that the movie was so darn hysterical.
 
Even though it felt like this doc had a feminist agenda it is hard to argue with their stance and I found the whole process fascinating, illuminating and frustrating (in a good way).
It definitely boiled down to a dispute over female orgasms, hip thrusting in sex scenes, sex toys, and gay or multi-partner sex scenes.There was never any talk of any type of hardcore violence deserving an NC-17 rating, which is silly. To me it makes more sense to me to label films like Saw and Hostel "NC-17" and leave films like the Cooler and Boys Don't Cry an "R". It's equally ridiculous that the NC-17 rating is such a taboo in our culture. Theaters should be able and willing to show NC-17 films to adults without the fear of becoming porn houses.
You'll also note, for example, that all the male P.I.s were made to look like fools and the lesbian P.I.s were made to look like geniuses. I am sure there was plenty of editing involved in that process. It was a common theme of the documentary. But whatever, I absolutely agree with their point.I think that point about the acceptance of violence was valid. The same point was also brilliantly made by Matt Stone and Trey Parker in the South Park movie, unfortunately it seems to often get lost in the fact that the movie was so darn hysterical.
I got my P.I. license last year and those lesbians were absolutely terrible at what they did.
 
Even though it felt like this doc had a feminist agenda it is hard to argue with their stance and I found the whole process fascinating, illuminating and frustrating (in a good way).
It definitely boiled down to a dispute over female orgasms, hip thrusting in sex scenes, sex toys, and gay or multi-partner sex scenes.There was never any talk of any type of hardcore violence deserving an NC-17 rating, which is silly. To me it makes more sense to me to label films like Saw and Hostel "NC-17" and leave films like the Cooler and Boys Don't Cry an "R". It's equally ridiculous that the NC-17 rating is such a taboo in our culture. Theaters should be able and willing to show NC-17 films to adults without the fear of becoming porn houses.
You'll also note, for example, that all the male P.I.s were made to look like fools and the lesbian P.I.s were made to look like geniuses. I am sure there was plenty of editing involved in that process. It was a common theme of the documentary. But whatever, I absolutely agree with their point.I think that point about the acceptance of violence was valid. The same point was also brilliantly made by Matt Stone and Trey Parker in the South Park movie, unfortunately it seems to often get lost in the fact that the movie was so darn hysterical.
I got my P.I. license last year and those lesbians were absolutely terrible at what they did.
They got the job done but I am sure the filmmakers interviewed a bunch of qualified candidates (male and female) and chose the lesbians for a reason.I don't want to take away from the premise of the film which I found very interesting but for some reason I just didn't like the feeling that the filmmakers were pushing their own agenda at the same time.
 

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