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I want five hours of a good movie and 10 minutes of a bad one.Watched Wolf of Wall Street last night. Would have been way better with about 45 minutes cut out of it. Jebus, the f###ing thing refused to end.
I want five hours of a good movie and 10 minutes of a bad one.Watched Wolf of Wall Street last night. Would have been way better with about 45 minutes cut out of it. Jebus, the f###ing thing refused to end.
Well whatever this was, I wanted an hour less of it.I want five hours of a good movie and 10 minutes of a bad one.Watched Wolf of Wall Street last night. Would have been way better with about 45 minutes cut out of it. Jebus, the f###ing thing refused to end.
Absolutely loved Prisoners. Two and a half hours and not a dull moment. Great performances all around. Don't really want to say much to give anything away. 4/5
He should have clocked the old lady as they went out of the house. Perfect opportunity.
I must have missed an explanation but by the newspaper headline it looks like Paul Dano was a previous abduction and he was reunited with his family?
The wife was so broken up by her missing kid but didn't seem too upset by her missing husband. I know they don't come close, just an observation.Loved it as well. As far as your spoiler goes
I had a couple back and forths on Prisoners with someone else a month or so ago in this thread, wont be hard to find if you want to look into some unclear parts. Not that Im sure of everything either.
Dano was the kid who was originally abducted, from the house the 2 girls were kidnapped in front of, Gyllenhaal interviewed the grandma who only had the video tape. Thats what the headline is referring to. He wasnt Melissa Leo's son, nephew, etc.
As far as wife being upset on Jackman missing, Id chalk it up to too much too soon. Plus, he's someone you'd expect to take care of himself. In such a short timeframe, that never really occurred to me.
I felt the same way. A really good film, and quite easily one of my top 5 favourites of the year so far. Curious, what scene was it that didn't work for you? For me it was:Short Term 12:
This one vaulted into the 1op 10 of the year for me. It is about a group of of kids in a 1/2 way house inbetween foster families (that might not be entirely accurate) and the counselors in charge of them. Great performances all around and thought it was a pretty realistic look at what it is like to interact with teens like that - you have the moments of breakthrough clashing up against moments of great heartbreak. There was one scene that didn't quite work for me, but overall I thought the movie was great and it really sucked me into the lives of these people for 90mins. 8/10
Bingo.I felt the same way. A really good film, and quite easily one of my top 5 favourites of the year so far. Curious, what scene was it that didn't work for you? For me it was:Short Term 12:
This one vaulted into the 1op 10 of the year for me. It is about a group of of kids in a 1/2 way house inbetween foster families (that might not be entirely accurate) and the counselors in charge of them. Great performances all around and thought it was a pretty realistic look at what it is like to interact with teens like that - you have the moments of breakthrough clashing up against moments of great heartbreak. There was one scene that didn't quite work for me, but overall I thought the movie was great and it really sucked me into the lives of these people for 90mins. 8/10
When Grace broke into the house and took the baseball bat to the girl's father's room. Too over the top compared to the rest of the film imo.
I felt the same way. A really good film, and quite easily one of my top 5 favourites of the year so far. Curious, what scene was it that didn't work for you? For me it was:Short Term 12:
This one vaulted into the 1op 10 of the year for me. It is about a group of of kids in a 1/2 way house inbetween foster families (that might not be entirely accurate) and the counselors in charge of them. Great performances all around and thought it was a pretty realistic look at what it is like to interact with teens like that - you have the moments of breakthrough clashing up against moments of great heartbreak. There was one scene that didn't quite work for me, but overall I thought the movie was great and it really sucked me into the lives of these people for 90mins. 8/10
When Grace broke into the house and took the baseball bat to the girl's father's room. Too over the top compared to the rest of the film imo.
I did about 3 pages ago, but was the only one that posted a list so far I think. I posted more based on dvd releases, I think there were some lists in the Oscar thread based on theatrical release.Speaking of top 5 and top 10 films, don't people usually post their top 10 movies of the year in here? I don't recall seeing any lists for 2013 yet, so I guess I'll start. In rough order:
American Hustle
The Past
Short Term 12
Don Jon
Upstream Color
The Great Beauty
The Company You Keep
Drinking Buddies
Only God Forgives
Blue Jasmine
Still have yet to see the majority of the Oscar nominated films or very many 2013 foreign films though.
I cant think of a better "scary" movie in the last couple years.Saw The Conjuring.
Thought it was pretty good. Some true scares/creepiness without all the blood and guts and also good acting.
The Cabin in the WoodsI cant think of a better "scary" movie in the last couple years.Saw The Conjuring.
Thought it was pretty good. Some true scares/creepiness without all the blood and guts and also good acting.
Going to be watching these 2 over the next day or so.Thanks for the list.Speaking of top 5 and top 10 films, don't people usually post their top 10 movies of the year in here? I don't recall seeing any lists for 2013 yet, so I guess I'll start. In rough order:
American Hustle
The Past
Short Term 12
Don Jon
Upstream Color
The Great Beauty
The Company You Keep
Drinking Buddies
Only God Forgives
Blue Jasmine
Still have yet to see the majority of the Oscar nominated films or very many 2013 foreign films though.
this is the reason for scary in quotes. this is the better movie, but many american horror movies lately get the tension right.The Cabin in the WoodsI cant think of a better "scary" movie in the last couple years.Saw The Conjuring.
Thought it was pretty good. Some true scares/creepiness without all the blood and guts and also good acting.
Some standouts for me.Speaking of top 5 and top 10 films, don't people usually post their top 10 movies of the year in here? I don't recall seeing any lists for 2013 yet, so I guess I'll start. In rough order:
American Hustle
The Past
Short Term 12
Don Jon
Upstream Color
The Great Beauty
The Company You Keep
Drinking Buddies
Only God Forgives
Blue Jasmine
Still have yet to see the majority of the Oscar nominated films or very many 2013 foreign films though.
I don't count Cabin In the Woods as a scary film. It was entertaining and fun but didn't really have jump out of your seat type suspense.SmoovySmoov said:The Cabin in the WoodsKarmaPolice said:I cant think of a better "scary" movie in the last couple years.Mr. Mojo said:Saw The Conjuring.
Thought it was pretty good. Some true scares/creepiness without all the blood and guts and also good acting.
I didn't either, but my point was that he was trying to think of a better "scary movie" (his quotes, not mine). Personally, I didn't find The Conjuring scary, either. I was just commenting that, out of all the "scary movies" that have come out in, oh the past ten years, the one that I enjoyed the most was Cabin in the Woods.I don't count Cabin In the Woods as a scary film. It was entertaining and fun but didn't really have jump out of your seat type suspense.SmoovySmoov said:The Cabin in the WoodsKarmaPolice said:I cant think of a better "scary" movie in the last couple years.Mr. Mojo said:Saw The Conjuring.
Thought it was pretty good. Some true scares/creepiness without all the blood and guts and also good acting.
Ive avoided this one for awhile as well, but after watching All Is Lost a few days ago, Im guessing Pi is similar but with better visuals and more of a storyline.Life Of Pi
Kinda avoided watching it for a while for whatever reason.
I thought it was good, definitely some great visuals.
3.5/5
Thief is criminally underrated.Ninth Configuration by William Peter Blatty of The Exorcist, an interesting mix of psychological mystery with some black comedy mixed in (avail on youtube*). Stacy Keach in probably his best role playing a flashback haunted psychologist that was a former commando, given a new assignment in a mental institution where not everything is as it seems.
Some Stephen King novels adapted to the screen, Fire Starter and Dead Zone.
Thief a great neo-noir with James Caan.
Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM
Can't believe you (or anybody else) saw 9th Configuration, Bob.Ninth Configuration by William Peter Blatty of The Exorcist, an interesting mix of psychological mystery with some black comedy mixed in (avail on youtube*). Stacy Keach in probably his best role playing a flashback haunted psychologist that was a former commando, given a new assignment in a mental institution where not everything is as it seems.
Some Stephen King novels adapted to the screen, Fire Starter and Dead Zone.
Thief a great neo-noir with James Caan.
Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM
You stole my thought.Thief is criminally underrated.Ninth Configuration by William Peter Blatty of The Exorcist, an interesting mix of psychological mystery with some black comedy mixed in (avail on youtube*). Stacy Keach in probably his best role playing a flashback haunted psychologist that was a former commando, given a new assignment in a mental institution where not everything is as it seems.
Some Stephen King novels adapted to the screen, Fire Starter and Dead Zone.
Thief a great neo-noir with James Caan.
Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM
Saw this in the theater a million years ago. Great movie.Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
The lead in Scanners may be the worst actor in the history of actingSaw this in the theater a million years ago. Great movie.Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
Uneven. Gets weird at times, but overall I found it boring and humorless. Franco was great, none of the other performances stood out. Cinematography/Editing were good, film has a slick look and feel.Has anyone seen Spring Breakers? It looks terrible, but I've recently heard good things.
eta: added a bit of that to a spoiler, in case somebody wants to watch 9th Config.Yeah, El Floppo, that was the original title of the novel.ICan't believe you (or anybody else) saw 9th Configuration, Bob.Ninth Configuration by William Peter Blatty of The Exorcist, an interesting mix of psychological mystery with some black comedy mixed in (avail on youtube*). Stacy Keach in probably his best role playing a flashback haunted psychologist that was a former commando, given a new assignment in a mental institution where not everything is as it seems.
Some Stephen King novels adapted to the screen, Fire Starter and Dead Zone.
Thief a great neo-noir with James Caan.
Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM
I saw it in the theater as a kid- when it was called "twinkle, twinkle, killer-kane". I enjoyed the movie quite a bit as a kid (mind-blown by the twists) but not quite sure it would hold up (Shakespeare performed by dogs, IIRC?).
Also interesting that Scorcese's Shutter Island ... ahem... rips it off. I knew from the first scene exactly what was happening in Shutter Island, which kind of ruined it for me.
Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Hard to beat the performances by almost every actor in the last three Star Wars films.The lead in Scanners may be the worst actor in the history of actingSaw this in the theater a million years ago. Great movie.Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
This is what I suspected.Uneven. Gets weird at times, but overall I found it boring and humorless. Franco was great, none of the other performances stood out. Cinematography/Editing were good, film has a slick look and feel.Has anyone seen Spring Breakers? It looks terrible, but I've recently heard good things.
Can't recommend it though. Outside of Franco, it looks like a film made for 12 year olds.
I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
You are right, Drifter.The lead in Scanners may be the worst actor in the history of actingSaw this in the theater a million years ago. Great movie.Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
That seems odd. I can see not reading the books but not reading them AND going to the second film without seeing the first? Seems like you really put yourself in a position to have little to no context.I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Catching Fire was a huge improvement. It's too bad the 3rd book sucks and, split into two movies, I don't see how they can make the 3rd movie not awful.jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Cronenberg also has a strange fascination with shotguns in that movie. Every single gun is a shotgunBob Magaw said:You are right, Drifter.Drifter said:The lead in Scanners may be the worst actor in the history of actingjdoggydogg said:Saw this in the theater a million years ago. Great movie.Bob Magaw said:Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
Cronenberg admitted he may have made a mistake, and claimed he cast him because he thought he had piercing eyes.![]()
Though not too many serious thespians or future Oscar winners in the Troma Team productions (Toxic Avenger, but than that was being played for laughs). Wooden would be a complement (though he was playing a kind of burn out, so it sort of worked in that role). It also has the hard case guy from V and Starship Troopers (Michael Ironside), and the head exploding scene was iconic for horror/sci fi movies. I also like the score by Howard Shore (who may have scored all of Cronenberg's movies, especially the early ones, before he became famous with the Lord of the Rings).
My son and his cousins wanted to go, so we took them.Chaka said:That seems odd. I can see not reading the books but not reading them AND going to the second film without seeing the first? Seems like you really put yourself in a position to have little to no context.jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
I'm still mad at these movies. Not enough explanation of the Sci behind the SciFi. Everyone's like "You gotta read the books to understand", and I say "F that, that's why I'm at the movies. Movies should be internally consistent & self-contained within themselves."jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Sure. If there's something really fascinating in the book that didn't make it on screen, that's a shame. Although perhaps it wasn't filmable.I'm still mad at these movies. Not enough explanation of the Sci behind the SciFi. Everyone's like "You gotta read the books to understand", and I say "F that, that's why I'm at the movies. Movies should be internally consistent & self-contained within themselves."jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Explanations of what Sci? You want to know how the Hunger Games arena actually works?I'm still mad at these movies. Not enough explanation of the Sci behind the SciFi. Everyone's like "You gotta read the books to understand", and I say "F that, that's why I'm at the movies. Movies should be internally consistent & self-contained within themselves."jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
I'm more talking about the basic rules of the in-movie universe that go unexplained.Sure. If there's something really fascinating in the book that didn't make it on screen, that's a shame. Although perhaps it wasn't filmable.I'm still mad at these movies. Not enough explanation of the Sci behind the SciFi. Everyone's like "You gotta read the books to understand", and I say "F that, that's why I'm at the movies. Movies should be internally consistent & self-contained within themselves."jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Yeah. I guess I'd start there. Is it like the Holodeck on Star Trek? What's real? Are the trees, birds, and those Ghostbusters-like Terror Dogs from the first movie actual living creatures, or simulations, or what?Explanations of what Sci? You want to know how the Hunger Games arena actually works?I'm still mad at these movies. Not enough explanation of the Sci behind the SciFi. Everyone's like "You gotta read the books to understand", and I say "F that, that's why I'm at the movies. Movies should be internally consistent & self-contained within themselves."jdoggydogg said:I didn't see the first movie and I haven't read the books, but I really enjoyed Catching Fire.Statorama said:Spot on. The thing that I love about this movie is that even though the material could easily drift into "Twilight" territory, Jennifer Lawrence brings everything she can to the role. She could so easily just cash a big paycheck and sleepwalk through the film, but she really elevates the material. Love watching her work in almost anything.Usual21 said:Saw Catching Fire last night. Felt like it was MUCH better than Hunger Games. You can tell that they pumped a lot more money into this one and it showed. Great performances all around, and a nice twist at the end. Good action sequences.
4/5
Do you have any examples you can think of?I'm more talking about the basic rules of the in-movie universe that go unexplained.
It's pretty much the basis of SciFi that you set up this alternate world, but to be good SciFi, you have to be consistent within your story. That is, if you're making Star Trek, and one episode says "going past warp 10 means you go back in time", and you establish point A is like 10 years of warp 10 away from point B, you can't have them go to warp 11 in a later episode to get there faster because you need them to for the plot. It's bad continuity. There's a ton of Hunger Games where they just never explain the science rules of the universe, so there's just no continuity. Stuff can just happen, because. Because... the plot needs it to happen? I don't know. But I just hate the movie-going experience that assumes you're fluent in rules that are never going to be explained (or, if they are, remain internally consistent). And every time I ask someone conversant in the rules to explain what happened, they just shrug and say "it makes sense in the book" and they start going into a long tangent that never actually delivers an explanation. "But... why?" I ask, and they just shrug again.
Like I said, it's been a while. But if the people of this universe have the ability to summon Terror Dogs and birds out of nowhere... can't they summon, like, cows too, for food? The structure of this society should be markedly different if they have some of these powers. I get that they're being punished, but, I don't get why everyone goes along with it I guess. The motivations for the characters aren't necessarily logical as presented in the film.Do you have any examples you can think of?I'm more talking about the basic rules of the in-movie universe that go unexplained.
It's pretty much the basis of SciFi that you set up this alternate world, but to be good SciFi, you have to be consistent within your story. That is, if you're making Star Trek, and one episode says "going past warp 10 means you go back in time", and you establish point A is like 10 years of warp 10 away from point B, you can't have them go to warp 11 in a later episode to get there faster because you need them to for the plot. It's bad continuity. There's a ton of Hunger Games where they just never explain the science rules of the universe, so there's just no continuity. Stuff can just happen, because. Because... the plot needs it to happen? I don't know. But I just hate the movie-going experience that assumes you're fluent in rules that are never going to be explained (or, if they are, remain internally consistent). And every time I ask someone conversant in the rules to explain what happened, they just shrug and say "it makes sense in the book" and they start going into a long tangent that never actually delivers an explanation. "But... why?" I ask, and they just shrug again.
Bob Magaw said:El Floppo said:ICan't believe you (or anybody else) saw 9th Configuration, Bob.Bob Magaw said:Ninth Configuration by William Peter Blatty of The Exorcist, an interesting mix of psychological mystery with some black comedy mixed in (avail on youtube*). Stacy Keach in probably his best role playing a flashback haunted psychologist that was a former commando, given a new assignment in a mental institution where not everything is as it seems.
Some Stephen King novels adapted to the screen, Fire Starter and Dead Zone.
Thief a great neo-noir with James Caan.
Scanners, one of my favorites by Cronenberg with Videodrome.
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM
I saw it in the theater as a kid- when it was called "twinkle, twinkle, killer-kane". I enjoyed the movie quite a bit as a kid (mind-blown by the twists) but not quite sure it would hold up (Shakespeare performed by dogs, IIRC?).
Also interesting that Scorcese's Shutter Island ... ahem... rips it off. I knew from the first scene exactly what was happening in Shutter Island, which kind of ruined it for me.