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You people can live under the illusion that there's a bunch of directors making fresh films from scratch, but all art is derivative.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Until fanboys started taking everything that leaked out of his butt as epic, Lucas was pretty upfront and matter-of-fact about his appropriations from the movie serials.
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PT Anderson, who I really enjoy, said he literally stole the firecracker scene in Boogie Nights from a foreign film. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
jdoggydogg said:
You people can live under the illusion that there's a bunch of directors making fresh films from scratch, but all art is derivative.
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There's derivative and then there's wholesale lifting.
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I am all for originality.

I just think it's naive to assume this doesn't happen all the time. In the example above, I referred to PT Anderson and his mentioning the outright stealing of the firecracker scene in Boogie Nights. This happens far more often than artists admit. Hate Tarantino or don't. I don't care. But this notion that all good artists are all original is just not the case.

 
jdoggydogg said:
I am all for originality.

I just think it's naive to assume this doesn't happen all the time. In the example above, I referred to PT Anderson and his mentioning the outright stealing of the firecracker scene in Boogie Nights. This happens far more often than artists admit. Hate Tarantino or don't. I don't care. But this notion that all good artists are all original is just not the case.
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I get what you are saying, and it does happen a lot, especially with some of the great directors who you know are students of cinema.  I mean Boogie Nights is littered with Scorsese nods and styles ( I didn't know about that scene.  Did he say what movie it was from?). 

I just saw Snowblood recently and was really surprised how much was taken from the movie - chapter titles, mixing animation for backflashes, characters, the look of the movie, down the costume and walk of the lead character vs. O-Ren.  I dunno, to me it went farther than mimicing styles or using a scene.  Then again, I have soured on Tarantino, so I am looking at it through that lens as well. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I get what you are saying, and it does happen a lot, especially with some of the great directors who you know are students of cinema.  I mean Boogie Nights is littered with Scorsese nods and styles ( I didn't know about that scene.  Did he say what movie it was from?). 

I just saw Snowblood recently and was really surprised how much was taken from the movie - chapter titles, mixing animation for backflashes, characters, the look of the movie, down the costume and walk of the lead character vs. O-Ren.  I dunno, to me it went farther than mimicing styles or using a scene.  Then again, I have soured on Tarantino, so I am looking at it through that lens as well. 
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The most famous scene in Boogie Nights. The scene where the drug dealer's boyfriend is constantly lighting firecrackers.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I get what you are saying, and it does happen a lot, especially with some of the great directors who you know are students of cinema.  I mean Boogie Nights is littered with Scorsese nods and styles ( I didn't know about that scene.  Did he say what movie it was from?). 

I just saw Snowblood recently and was really surprised how much was taken from the movie - chapter titles, mixing animation for backflashes, characters, the look of the movie, down the costume and walk of the lead character vs. O-Ren.  I dunno, to me it went farther than mimicing styles or using a scene.  Then again, I have soured on Tarantino, so I am looking at it through that lens as well. 




 




 
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La Haine?

http://filmjunk.com/2012/05/29/la-haine-blu-ray-review/

 
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Pretty much only watching movies from TMC this last year or so. I just really can't do all the action and comic book movies. TMC has so many good movies every week that I discover. 

 
Pretty much only watching movies from TMC this last year or so. I just really can't do all the action and comic book movies. TMC has so many good movies every week that I discover. Anyone else a regular viewer?

 
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Watched Control on Amazon Prime the other night. It is more about Ian Curtis then it is about Joy Division.

The actor(Sam Riley) who played Ian Curtis was excellent. The whole movie captured the time period very well, it also helped that it was in black and white. The music was great too. I really enjoyed it.

Dove in to Curtis's struggles with Epilepsy, marriage and his own personal problems.

 
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jdoggydogg said:
You people can live under the illusion that there's a bunch of directors making fresh films from scratch, but all art is derivative.
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Even a movie like the Matrix, which had a lot of inventive stuff, stole a lot from previous works.  Heck, most of the story outline was lifted from the Bible.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Yes. I find it fascinating that even the worst Marvel movies are still better than most DC movies. It's like Marvel has given the blueprints to DC free of charge, and DC still can't figure out this formula. The reason many Marvel movies are at least watchable is they rarely take themselves too seriously. Batman v. Superman is drearier than a funeral.
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The recent big budget DC movies just seem grim.  The Marvel ones are almost winking at you like "hey, want to have some fun?"

 
STBootleg said:
Watched Control on Amazon Prime the other night. It is more about Ian Curtis then it is about Joy Division.

The actor(Sam Riley) who played Ian Curtis was excellent. The whole movie captured the time period very well, it also helped that it was in black and white. The music was great too. I really enjoyed it.

Dove in to Curtis's struggles with Epilepsy, marriage and his own personal problems.
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I was/am a huge JD fan and really enjoyed this one. 

There was another JD/Ian Curtis movie that came out aruond the same time. add them together with 24 Hour Party People, and bammo- covers the era amazingly well.

 
Kubo and the Two Strings:

This one should have hit with me more.  Appreciate the originality and the look of the film, and stop motion fascinates me, but mostly thought it was dull as I watched it.  Don't know what it was exactly, it just didn't hold my attention at all.  My son seemed to like it which was great.  It also started a conversation about the different styles of animation and us watching some footage of how movies pull off the stop-motion stuff, so that was a huge plus.  I am always down for talking with him about how movies are made.  I think he watched most of the 'making of' stuff for Star Wars and some of the Marvel movies too. 

Finding Dory:

Yeah, it was a Pixar sequel.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Kubo and the Two Strings:

This one should have hit with me more.  Appreciate the originality and the look of the film, and stop motion fascinates me, but mostly thought it was dull as I watched it.  Don't know what it was exactly, it just didn't hold my attention at all.  My son seemed to like it which was great.  It also started a conversation about the different styles of animation and us watching some footage of how movies pull off the stop-motion stuff, so that was a huge plus.  I am always down for talking with him about how movies are made.  I think he watched most of the 'making of' stuff for Star Wars and some of the Marvel movies too. 

Finding Dory:

Yeah, it was a Pixar sequel.
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I loved Kubo. The story was adequate, but the visuals put it way over the top for me.

I didn't like Finding Nemo, so I'm not bothering with the sequel. 

 
jamny said:
Funny story, I might have told it before. When I was a kid (just looked it up, I was 10) and the Planet of the Apes TV series was cancelled, I went around with a petition in my school to get them to keep it on TV. I don't remember it going too well.
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I so would have signed.

My dopey POTA story (not as inventive as yours). When I was 12 a local theater had the last POTA premier along with the other 4 for one low price. Had never seen any of them, so it sounded like fun. My cousin and I spent the whole day watching the whole series. 

Pretty sure our knuckles were hanging just a little bit lower when we left than when we went in. 

 
simsarge said:
I so would have signed.

My dopey POTA story (not as inventive as yours). When I was 12 a local theater had the last POTA premier along with the other 4 for one low price. Had never seen any of them, so it sounded like fun. My cousin and I spent the whole day watching the whole series. 

Pretty sure our knuckles were hanging just a little bit lower when we left than when we went in. 
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:lmao:

I went to that same thing! My brother had to take me (I was 9) and it just happened to fall ON MY BIRTHDAY! I had already seen Battle earlier in the summer. The marathon started from the beginning but my brother couldn't make it through all of them and we left after like 3 or 4. I wasn't happy but it was still great.

I remember convincing my father to take me to Macy's where Cornelius was signing autographs. Obviously not Roddy McDowell, just a guy in a costume but I was into it. Just looked it up on wiki: Not sure if it's the same thing but I guess it was related.

In the 1970s fans Bill Blake and Paula Crist created Cornelius and Zira costumes; their routine was convincing enough that Fox licensed them to portray the characters at events
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saintfool said:
While I didn't love "Nemo", I do have such an affection for Albert Brooks. It kind of makes it impossible for me to give it anything other than a passing grade.
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Have you ever seen KPollak's Albert imitation? Priceless. Shouldnt link it here because the clip is of him telling the Aristocrats joke, but google it.

 
simsarge said:
I so would have signed.

My dopey POTA story (not as inventive as yours). When I was 12 a local theater had the last POTA premier along with the other 4 for one low price. Had never seen any of them, so it sounded like fun. My cousin and I spent the whole day watching the whole series. 

Pretty sure our knuckles were hanging just a little bit lower when we left than when we went in. 




 
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I remember PotA as a kid too. I remember having this over-sized PotA comic book for some reason and reading it on a sweltering afternoon in a pay laundromat with my Dad. For whatever reason,  the end of the comic - Caesar getting killed? - got to me and I balled like a baby.

 
saintfool said:
I remember PotA as a kid too. I remember having this over-sized PotA comic book for some reason and reading it on a sweltering afternoon in a pay laundromat with my Dad. For whatever reason,  the end of the comic - Caesar getting killed? - got to me and I balled like a baby.
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Pfft. I had the Mad Magazine Planet of the Apes spoof when I was a kid. Oh yeah, I'm that old and I was that cool.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Have you ever seen KPollak's Albert imitation? Priceless. Shouldnt link it here because the clip is of him telling the Aristocrats joke, but google it.
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It's a very good impression. Brooks himself is not a natural performer but he's a natural comedian. I think he's a terrific comedic writer.

 
saintfool said:
It's a very good impression. Brooks himself is not a natural performer but he's a natural comedian. I think he's a terrific comedic writer.
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He was my idol. His album "Comedy Minus One" had a whole side that was him doing a Vegas act with spaces for you to be his comic partner, reading from a script in the sleeve. Not only did it, memorized it, practiced it but, it being the first written-down comedy i'd ever seen, studied it like the Rosetta Stone. One of his appearances on the Tonight Show got the longest ovation i've ever seen on television and made me just want to be him. He & Zero Mostel are the only performers who just dragged the fanboy right outta me.

 
wikkidpissah said:
He was my idol. His album "Comedy Minus One" had a whole side that was him doing a Vegas act with spaces for you to be his comic partner, reading from a script in the sleeve. Not only did it, memorized it, practiced it but, it being the first written-down comedy i'd ever seen, studied it like the Rosetta Stone. One of his appearances on the Tonight Show got the longest ovation i've ever seen on television and made me just want to be him. He & Zero Mostel are the only performers who just dragged the fanboy right outta me.
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Brooks is awesome.

The comedians that changed my life as a child were Steve Martin, Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, and Monty Python. 

 
oh... right. watched High Rise in a couple of sittings. I think it's on netflix or amazon prime.

I vaguely remember reading the book (by JG Ballard), but think I gave it about as much attention as the movie. great cast, interesting theme (using a high-rise residential building as a literal metaphor for social structure), but just didn't play out. might recommend it mildly as an interesting watch- more as a socio-study from the 70s but made now, and again with a good cast.

 
and of course... big Brooks fan as well.

plus he filmed Mother in my hometown! and married a girl I went to HS with... who might be just a little younger than him.

 
El Floppo said:
oh... right. watched High Rise in a couple of sittings. I think it's on netflix or amazon prime.

I vaguely remember reading the book (by JG Ballard), but think I gave it about as much attention as the movie. great cast, interesting theme (using a high-rise residential building as a literal metaphor for social structure), but just didn't play out. might recommend it mildly as an interesting watch- more as a socio-study from the 70s but made now, and again with a good cast.




 
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I liked High Rise quite a bit. It's one of those movies that should have been done decades ago and in different hands. That said, I'm not at all surprised that it didn't play with here in the US given how British it is. I'm a big fan of Ballard too. His body of work lends itself to the cinema. I'd love to see his novel "Day of Creation" adapted to the screen.

 
saintfool said:
I liked High Rise quite a bit. It's one of those movies that should have been done decades ago and in different hands. That said, I'm not at all surprised that it didn't play with here in the US given how British it is. I'm a big fan of Ballard too. His body of work lends itself to the cinema. I'd love to see his novel "Day of Creation" adapted to the screen.
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it's decidedly british- good call. 

didn't read that one... but you're right in that his work is ripe for film-versions- although not quite as linear and obvious as a Crichton though. last thing I read of his was Super Cannes, which was just ok.

 
jdoggydogg said:
In high school I watched a ton of classic movies on AMC. Really enjoyed them.
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I'm a big fan of TMC. No commercials, often have interesting pre/post segments giving some history to the films. They also do a lot of specials like  playing 3 movies by the same director or a nightly theme like movies about bank robbers. All of Feb. is Oscar Month where they show Oscar winners all day long all month. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I'm a big fan of TMC. No commercials, often have interesting pre/post segments giving some history to the films. They also do a lot of specials like  playing 3 movies by the same director or a nightly theme like movies about bank robbers. All of Feb. is Oscar Month where they show Oscar winners all day long all month. 
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