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[Gr00vus]

I stand corrected. Still doesn't make sense. How is melody less "peaceful" then rhythm? 

If my Wikkid decoder ring is working, I think he means the opposite. The feminization of society has led to emphasis on rhythm as males seek outlets for their semi-curbed aggression.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I know what he's saying, I just have no idea why he's saying it. Does the increased emphasis on texture in music represent the rise of LGBTQ in society? 

To be fair, art can be both a reflection of culture and a influence on culture. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

Let me try to clear this up as efficiently as possible.

Every human personality is largely an abstraction of dominance & sublimation of rage. One could fairly well substitute the word "rage" for "sex" in the works of Freud and be a LOT closer to the truth. When life was a sunup-to-sundown struggle for survival filled with strain, pain & woe, those aspects of personality lined up to make us productive & energetic. Now that fussing&frittering, dicking&dickering are the core of our modern lives, all those elements are spoiling for fights. Therefore our entertainments are rife with those abstractions & sublimations, in addition to distractions, wish-fulfillments, vicarious victories, amelioration of the agitation in unquiet minds . nufced

 

[Gr00vus]

And I don't know if this will be an unpopular thing to say, but I love that a beautiful character like this wasn't being sexually objectified every three seconds.

Agree. I think that's another reason it really appeals to women like my wife. Diana just kicked ###, plain and simple, and they toned the fetishization down. Not so far down that they couldn't avoid high heeled combat boots, but it was still far short of cat woman, poison ivy type bad.

 

[Ilov80s]

If my Wikkid decoder ring is working, I think he means the opposite. The feminization of society has led to emphasis on rhythm as males seek outlets for their semi-curbed aggression.

Ok we are getting somewhere now. 

 

[jdoggydogg]

I stand corrected. Still doesn't make sense. How is melody less "peaceful" then rhythm? 

I don't know if you've ever heard Stravinsky, but legend has it that the harsh rhythms at the premiere of The Rite of Spring caused a riot. Stravinsky used thundering African polyrhythms that were so intense, the west hadn't heard anything like it before. So while rhythm isn't innately harsh, and melody can be cacophonous and atonal, I think Wikkid's specifically citing music like hip hop and metal because the rhythm is so intense and prominent. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

Wes Anderson, Noah Baumbach, Amelie, Juno, Garden State.

Gotcha, so "no" is your answer too.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Agree. I think that's another reason it really appeals to women like my wife. Diana just kicked ###, plain and simple, and they toned the fetishization down. Not so far down that they couldn't avoid high heeled combat boots, but it was still far short of cat woman, poison ivy type bad.

Have you seen the side by side comparisons of the Wonder Woman costumes and Zach Snyder's skimpy version?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I think BR 2049 is an art film in a sci-fi costume. So that makes it far less accessible than its genre cousins. 

I think people lock themselves into wanting everything from every movie in every movie.  The knocks on Fast and Furious in here are like that not from an opinion standpoint - everyone has there own and god knows I've hated movies that others loves, that isn't the point - but from the standpoint of what to expect from certain genre's.  The F&F movies aren't going to have Oscar worthy scripts, and because there is a ton of action there is going to be CGI used in this day and age - just to hit two of the attacks.  Within the confines of the genre of the movie, or its subset from its normal genre - that is fine for me and if you accept that you should be able to enjoy the truly mindless entertainment that F&F is - if you like mindless entertainment video game style like that to begin with.

BR2049 might end up being the same kind of movie for different reasons.  It is not wall to wall 2 hours of action like some want in science fiction - like how we've turned Star Trek into a perpetual war battle universe when Roddenbury always wanted it to be about people and relationships and bigger issues.  I think the point of the BR universe the size, scope, futility, and sound of it.  The best moments of the story almost all were non speaking flyovers and sound effects of the changing landscape and mood. The metallic engine style noise of the cars and the overbearing music for mood setting that sounded sometimes more depressing-dystopian-techno than actual music was perfectly done in every way. This was artistic science fiction - you are right about that.  And it was amazing.  The landscape of Las Vegas was breathtaking. I want a movie just about Vegas and the statues that littered the waste and why it was so destroyed.

I think engrossing was the right word I used.  F&F isn't engrossing, it's just video game fluff fun.  But BR2049 was engrossing.  Masterpiece isn't the wrong word to use for it.  And man, the sound.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

And I don't know if this will be an unpopular thing to say, but I love that a beautiful character like this wasn't being sexually objectified every three seconds.

I actually thought she looked the hottest in the coat and glasses.  

I get what you guys are saying, and I found that refreshing along with her actually giving two craps about the people she's supposed to be saving (unlike the new Superman).  Still don't think the movie was good overall though.  

 

[dutch]

I think people lock themselves into wanting everything from every movie in every movie.  The knocks on Fast and Furious in here are like that not from an opinion standpoint - everyone has there own and god knows I've hated movies that others loves, that isn't the point - but from the standpoint of what to expect from certain genre's.  The F&F movies aren't going to have Oscar worthy scripts, and because there is a ton of action there is going to be CGI used in this day and age - just to hit two of the attacks.  Within the confines of the genre of the movie, or its subset from its normal genre - that is fine for me and if you accept that you should be able to enjoy the truly mindless entertainment that F&F is - if you like mindless entertainment video game style like that to begin with.

BR2049 might end up being the same kind of movie for different reasons.  It is not wall to wall 2 hours of action like some want in science fiction - like how we've turned Star Trek into a perpetual war battle universe when Roddenbury always wanted it to be about people and relationships and bigger issues.  I think the point of the BR universe the size, scope, futility, and sound of it.  The best moments of the story almost all were non speaking flyovers and sound effects of the changing landscape and mood. The metallic engine style noise of the cars and the overbearing music for mood setting that sounded sometimes more depressing-dystopian-techno than actual music was perfectly done in every way. This was artistic science fiction - you are right about that.  And it was amazing.  The landscape of Las Vegas was breathtaking. I want a movie just about Vegas and the statues that littered the waste and why it was so destroyed.

I think engrossing was the right word I used.  F&F isn't engrossing, it's just video game fluff fun.  But BR2049 was engrossing.  Masterpiece isn't the wrong word to use for it.  And man, the sound.  

You know, I haven't seen BR2049 yet but I love this write up in general, yankee.  In fact, while reading through it I couldn't help but think how apt a write up it is for Mad Max: Fury Road as well.  What BR2049 brings in terms of thoughtfulness and contemplation MM:FR brought with the intense action while both provided more purpose and more emotion sans words than most regular films can dream of.  

 

[Gr00vus]

Have you seen the side by side comparisons of the Wonder Woman costumes and Zach Snyder's skimpy version?

Ah yes, the stab me right here bare midriff "armor." I hadn't seen it, nor do I plan to see Justice League.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't know if you've ever heard Stravinsky, but legend has it that the harsh rhythms at the premiere of The Rite of Spring caused a riot. Stravinsky used thundering African polyrhythms that were so intense, the west hadn't heard anything like it before. So while rhythm isn't innately harsh, and melody can be cacophonous and atonal, I think Wikkid's specifically citing music like hip hop and metal because the rhythm is so intense and prominent. 

I had read it was the choreography that caused the issues. The dancers performed Stomp which was bizarre and drowned out the music which led to fights amongst the audience members.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I think people lock themselves into wanting everything from every movie in every movie.  The knocks on Fast and Furious in here are like that not from an opinion standpoint - everyone has there own and god knows I've hated movies that others loves, that isn't the point - but from the standpoint of what to expect from certain genre's.  The F&F movies aren't going to have Oscar worthy scripts, and because there is a ton of action there is going to be CGI used in this day and age - just to hit two of the attacks.  Within the confines of the genre of the movie, or its subset from its normal genre - that is fine for me and if you accept that you should be able to enjoy the truly mindless entertainment that F&F is - if you like mindless entertainment video game style like that to begin with.

BR2049 might end up being the same kind of movie for different reasons.  It is not wall to wall 2 hours of action like some want in science fiction - like how we've turned Star Trek into a perpetual war battle universe when Roddenbury always wanted it to be about people and relationships and bigger issues.  I think the point of the BR universe the size, scope, futility, and sound of it.  The best moments of the story almost all were non speaking flyovers and sound effects of the changing landscape and mood. The metallic engine style noise of the cars and the overbearing music for mood setting that sounded sometimes more depressing-dystopian-techno than actual music was perfectly done in every way. This was artistic science fiction - you are right about that.  And it was amazing.  The landscape of Las Vegas was breathtaking. I want a movie just about Vegas and the statues that littered the waste and why it was so destroyed.

I think engrossing was the right word I used.  F&F isn't engrossing, it's just video game fluff fun.  But BR2049 was engrossing.  Masterpiece isn't the wrong word to use for it.  And man, the sound.  

Yes.

I do think we all go into a movie experience with our own sets of expectations, and that can either enhance the viewing or ruin it. I like it when movies know what they want to be. I liked Cameron's Avatar, because as silly as that movie is, it knows what it wants to be and it executes that well. I just saw The Rock and Jack Black in Jumanji. Now I'm not saying it's a classic. But it wasn't trying to fake something. It was intentionally silly and that worked for me. 

I think that if someone just edited the scenes in Blade Runner 2049 without dialogue, the music and photography are some of the best ever made in a movie. I loved it, and I wish I could watch more movies like that. The closest recent analog I can think of was Ex Machina - in that it was written and directed only for adults. And how refreshing is that in an age where 98% of movies are now made for 14 year old boys?

 

[jdoggydogg]

Ah yes, the stab me right here bare midriff "armor." I hadn't seen it, nor do I plan to see Justice League.

Justice League is mostly hot garbage.

 

[Ilov80s]

Great points about expectations. That really drives the movie going experience 

 

[jdoggydogg]

I had read it was the choreography that caused the issues. The dancers performed Stomp which was bizarre and drowned out the music which led to fights amongst the audience members.

I've read the same article. I guess what still stands out is those pounding percussion instruments represented the western birth of heavy music.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yes.

I do think we all go into a movie experience with our own sets of expectations, and that can either enhance the viewing or ruin it. I like it when movies know what they want to be. I liked Cameron's Avatar, because as silly as that movie is, it knows what it wants to be and it executes that well. I just saw The Rock and Jack Black in Jumanji. Now I'm not saying it's a classic. But it wasn't trying to fake something. It was intentionally silly and that worked for me. 

I think that if someone just edited the scenes in Blade Runner 2049 without dialogue, the music and photography are some of the best ever made in a movie. I loved it, and I wish I could watch more movies like that. The closest recent analog I can think of was Ex Machina - in that it was written and directed only for adults. And how refreshing is that in an age where 98% of movies are now made for 14 year old boys?

Yes, I think this sentiment is perfect.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Great points about expectations. That really drives the movie going experience 

..along with age, mood, quality of picture and sound, and a multitude of other factors.  This is why I don't get it when people say they don't watch movies more than once. 

 

[Yankee23Fan]

You know, I haven't seen BR2049 yet but I love this write up in general, yankee.  In fact, while reading through it I couldn't help but think how apt a write up it is for Mad Max: Fury Road as well.  What BR2049 brings in terms of thoughtfulness and contemplation MM:FR brought with the intense action while both provided more purpose and more emotion sans words than most regular films can dream of.  

I can totally see the comparison.  Fury Road was the same type of movie, but from a different perspective.

 

[belljr]

Yes.

I do think we all go into a movie experience with our own sets of expectations, and that can either enhance the viewing or ruin it. I like it when movies know what they want to be. I liked Cameron's Avatar, because as silly as that movie is, it knows what it wants to be and it executes that well. I just saw The Rock and Jack Black in Jumanji. Now I'm not saying it's a classic. But it wasn't trying to fake something. It was intentionally silly and that worked for me. 

I think that if someone just edited the scenes in Blade Runner 2049 without dialogue, the music and photography are some of the best ever made in a movie. I loved it, and I wish I could watch more movies like that. The closest recent analog I can think of was Ex Machina - in that it was written and directed only for adults. And how refreshing is that in an age where 98% of movies are now made for 14 year old boys?

So we're back to Fast & Furious!!!!

 

[KarmaPolice]

Man, I am excited to see Blade Runner - PLEASE stop with the Fury Road mentions in reference to BR.  

 

[Ilov80s]

..along with age, mood, quality of picture and sound, and a multitude of other factors.  This is why I don't get it when people say they don't watch movies more than once. 

I think all those things king of roll into expectations. A young person might have very different expectations on picture quality or pacing or effects for example 

 

[dutch]

Man, I am excited to see Blade Runner - PLEASE stop with the Fury Road mentions in reference to BR.  

Both great films with substance aided by style, strong characters, and unique worlds crafted by true artistes.  Equals but opposites.

eta 

 

[jdoggydogg]

This is why I don't get it when people say they don't watch movies more than once. 

Now, I mostly agree with this. The truly great movies that I love merit three or four viewings because they're so dense and thoughtful the subtext isn't always revealed with the first viewing. However, with a gut-wrenching movie like The Magdalene Sisters or Downfall, I really don't want to relive that experience again.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Man, I am excited to see Blade Runner - PLEASE stop with the Fury Road mentions in reference to BR.  

Since expectations are everything, if you like a contemplative, somber movie that takes its time, you may very well like BR'49.

It's almost like Terrance Malick directed a sci fi film.

 

[Gr00vus]

Now, I mostly agree with this. The truly great movies that I love merit three or four viewings because they're so dense and thoughtful the subtext isn't always revealed with the first viewing. However, with a gut-wrenching movie like The Magdalene Sisters or Downfall, I really don't want to relive that experience again.

I really liked the Pianist. Own the DVD even. I can't bring myself to watch it a second time. Similarly with Requiem For A Dream.

 

[Ilov80s]

Since expectations are everything, if you like a contemplative, somber movie that takes its time, you may very well like BR'49.

It's almost like Terrance Malick directed a sci fi film.

I'm really excited to see it. I had plans several times but always fell through. I'm updating some of my home theater equipment I think so that will be perfect to roll it out with.

 

[El Floppo]

I think people lock themselves into wanting everything from every movie in every movie.  The knocks on Fast and Furious in here are like that not from an opinion standpoint - everyone has there own and god knows I've hated movies that others loves, that isn't the point - but from the standpoint of what to expect from certain genre's.  The F&F movies aren't going to have Oscar worthy scripts, and because there is a ton of action there is going to be CGI used in this day and age - just to hit two of the attacks.  Within the confines of the genre of the movie, or its subset from its normal genre - that is fine for me and if you accept that you should be able to enjoy the truly mindless entertainment that F&F is - if you like mindless entertainment video game style like that to begin with.

BR2049 might end up being the same kind of movie for different reasons.  It is not wall to wall 2 hours of action like some want in science fiction - like how we've turned Star Trek into a perpetual war battle universe when Roddenbury always wanted it to be about people and relationships and bigger issues.  I think the point of the BR universe the size, scope, futility, and sound of it.  The best moments of the story almost all were non speaking flyovers and sound effects of the changing landscape and mood. The metallic engine style noise of the cars and the overbearing music for mood setting that sounded sometimes more depressing-dystopian-techno than actual music was perfectly done in every way. This was artistic science fiction - you are right about that.  And it was amazing.  The landscape of Las Vegas was breathtaking. I want a movie just about Vegas and the statues that littered the waste and why it was so destroyed.

I think engrossing was the right word I used.  F&F isn't engrossing, it's just video game fluff fun.  But BR2049 was engrossing.  Masterpiece isn't the wrong word to use for it.  And man, the sound.  

The times I've dipped into F&F movies have been with zero expectations of anything but car chase stuff. I never expected mind bending films or anything approaching greatness. And I stand by previous comment- I still found nothing redeeming in the bits I watched. And yes- I can and do expect better from my mindless entertainment.

Eta... There's a quote from broadcast news, where Albert Brooks describes William Hurts character as the devil. Not pointy horns and widespread conflagrations, but bit by bit lowering our standards.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Eta... There's a quote from broadcast news, where Albert Brooks describes William Hurts character as the devil. Not pointy horns and widespread conflagrations, but bit by bit lowering our standards.

the movie moment i cite more than any other

 

[wikkidpissah]

"Chimes at Midnight" - Orson Welles's amalgam of Falstaff's scenes from Shakespeare's history plays into one story, with the director portraying the man he was born to play - is on TCM @ 8pm tonite

 

[El Floppo]

the movie moment i cite more than any other

That's the one. Love it. And so true.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think all those things king of roll into expectations. A young person might have very different expectations on picture quality or pacing or effects for example 

Yeah, we are probably saying the same thing.  Understanding the process of making movies more and having expectations that way is one aspect.  I was more thinking in general just getting different things out of movie as your life experiences change and you change.  You might read a movie differently, connect with a different character, whatever.  There are movies that I loved in my 20s that don't do much for me now and vise versa.  Some I am sure is to do with seeing them so many times, some is that I different now.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

Now, I mostly agree with this. The truly great movies that I love merit three or four viewings because they're so dense and thoughtful the subtext isn't always revealed with the first viewing. However, with a gut-wrenching movie like The Magdalene Sisters or Downfall, I really don't want to relive that experience again.

I don't have that reaction.  Maybe I am just more masochistic in my movie watching?  I usually don't watch docs more than once, but there isn't a fictional movie I can think of that I would consider good to great that I wouldn't watch again due to content.  I still haven't seen Downfall, but I guess Requiem for a Dream is a good example of this and I have watched that several times.  

 

[Mr. Mojo]

This is why I don't get it when people say they don't watch movies more than once. 

I think watching a film the second time is a true test. I have had ones that I really enjoyed the first time that weren't as good the second time.

A great film is just as good, if not better the second time.

Dunkirk is the most recent example of this for me.

 

[saintfool]

That's the one. Love it. And so true.

i had a job interview once when i was very new to NYC that went like this. 

:flopsweatisreal:

 

[cockroach]

Looks quirky

It does- which is right up my wife's alley. 

I don't know if that's the word I would use.  I remember at one point in the movie I was thinking, "besides the name thing, this girl is as normal as any".  It's def not Wes Anderson or Napolean TNT quirky. 

I really really liked the film, but if I talked to myself before I saw it I would be highly disappointed and wonder what I saw in it that made me rave about it so much.    But really strong performances from the cast which elicited strong emotions and a connection with the story/characters for myself. 

 

[joffer]

The Post was very good, bordering on great.

Jumanji was better than expected.

 

[whoknew]

The Shape of Water

This one is going to be polarizing.  Guess it just wasn't for me.  Was just waiting for it to end.

Jenkins was the only character I had any attachment too.

It was more odd then whimsical.  It came off cold and remote.  Not heart-warming.  Just missed the mark for me.  Unlike a movie like Amelie which is one of my all time favorites.

The green color palate matched my face at parts.   :X

Just saw this. I loved it. Thought it was really beautiful film making. I thought it worked terrifically - all parts of it. It was visually beautiful. The music was perfect. The acting was outstanding. And the story was sweet. 

It was a beautiful re-imaging of Beauty and the Beast and I thought it was great.

ETA: Its not as good as Pan's Labyrinth, though.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The times I've dipped into F&F movies have been with zero expectations of anything but car chase stuff. I never expected mind bending films or anything approaching greatness. And I stand by previous comment- I still found nothing redeeming in the bits I watched. And yes- I can and do expect better from my mindless entertainment. Eta... There's a quote from broadcast news, where Albert Brooks describes William Hurts character as the devil. Not pointy horns and widespread conflagrations, but bit by bit lowering our standards.

What standards are being lowered? Did you like Arnold Schwarzenegger films as a kid? Because the Fast and Furious franchise is not only the same level of silly, I'd argue the F&F franchise is a great deal better than a lot of the B movies we liked as teens. If we compare any new music to Mozart, I can make the argument that it's all inferior. If we compare an action movie to any great drama, the action movie is always going to look awful. 

You may know I've been called a movie snob on this board more than once. I'm only defending F&F because F&F doesn't even think it's good. So if F&F doesn't think it's good, then arguing it's not good misses the stated intent of the franchise. 

 

[jdoggydogg]

Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but:

There are movies I like that when someone hates them, I totally understand. If you watch Lost Highway or Mulholland Drive and hated every minute, Lynch is weird, disturbing, and deliberately cryptic - so I understand. But with The Shape of Water, I honestly don't understand people that don't love the movie. I think it's visual poetry, iconic story, and one of the most sympathetic protagonists we've ever seen in a movie. If you don't think that The Shape of Water is great, then it's hard for me to comprehend what your definition of great should be.

 

[El Floppo]

What standards are being lowered? Did you like Arnold Schwarzenegger films as a kid? Because the Fast and Furious franchise is not only the same level of silly, I'd argue the F&F franchise is a great deal better than a lot of the B movies we liked as teens. If we compare any new music to Mozart, I can make the argument that it's all inferior. If we compare an action movie to any great drama, the action movie is always going to look awful. 

You may know I've been called a movie snob on this board more than once. I'm only defending F&F because F&F doesn't even think it's good. So if F&F doesn't think it's good, then arguing it's not good misses the stated intent of the franchise. 

I was a kid when I saw those schwartzie,stallone films. Was aware even then that these were tripe, but enjoyed them as such. As a grown up, F&F have given me no joy. 

I do believe these cynical cash grab sequel franchises lower the standards, if at least for concept and creativity.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

All this talk about expectations entering a movie, and so far I have seen a movie by a director that I think is overrated to begin with described as a reimagining of Frankenstein and Beauty and the Beast.  To say that I am a bit about said movie is an understatement.  

 

[jdoggydogg]

I was a kid when I saw those schwartzie,stallone films. Was aware even then that these were tripe, but enjoyed them as such. As a grown up, F&F have given me no joy. 

I do believe these cynical cash grab sequel franchises lower the standards, if at least for concept and creativity.  

I'd argue that says more about your age than the quality of a movie. Kids can't see bad acting. Kids can't see terrible writing. If you watch the first Star Wars movie from 1977, that is some TERRIBLE acting by Hammil and Fisher. If you saw that for the first time as a 45 year old, you'd be disappointed. 

 

[belljr]

What standards are being lowered? Did you like Arnold Schwarzenegger films as a kid? Because the Fast and Furious franchise is not only the same level of silly, I'd argue the F&F franchise is a great deal better than a lot of the B movies we liked as teens. If we compare any new music to Mozart, I can make the argument that it's all inferior. If we compare an action movie to any great drama, the action movie is always going to look awful. 

You may know I've been called a movie snob on this board more than once. I'm only defending F&F because F&F doesn't even think it's good. So if F&F doesn't think it's good, then arguing it's not good misses the stated intent of the franchise. 

I just want to throw this out there.

I watch pretty much any movie - minus Horror/Gore.  I don't get into artsy flicks much but sometimes give them a shot.  Most "best picture" nominees I try to see but end up not seeing anyway.

I love almost any action and or comedy warts and all.

So Commando is one of my all time favorite movies.

Haven't seen that movie in 15 years if not more. Had a bunch of people over playing poker and commando comes on.

It literally turned into a Mystery Science Theater with all the commentary

Like the super seedy bar in the middle of a shopping mall.

My point is I don't think those awesome action flicks of the past were much better as a whole.  Of course there are classics 

 

[Ilov80s]

All this talk about expectations entering a movie, and so far I have seen a movie by a director that I think is overrated to begin with described as a reimagining of Frankenstein and Beauty and the Beast.  To say that I am a bit about said movie is an understatement.  

and a description that sounds like an M. Night Shyamalan made for Sci-Fi Channel tv movie. 

 

[jdoggydogg]

So Commando is one of my all time favorite movies.

Haven't seen that movie in 15 years if not more. Had a bunch of people over playing poker and commando comes on.

It literally turned into a Mystery Science Theater with all the commentary

You'd enjoy the How Did This Get Made? podcast. Comedians watch bad movies and make fun of them.

 

[belljr]

You'd enjoy the How Did This Get Made? podcast. Comedians watch bad movies and make fun of them.

interesting - will ahve to check it out

 

[El Floppo]

I'd argue that says more about your age than the quality of a movie. Kids can't see bad acting. Kids can't see terrible writing. If you watch the first Star Wars movie from 1977, that is some TERRIBLE acting by Hammil and Fisher. If you saw that for the first time as a 45 year old, you'd be disappointed. 

Absolutely. I waited in line between for a couple hours and saw the rerelease of SW at the Ziegfield. Was gobstruck at how laughably bad Hamill in particular was- made flimsy writing incredibly obvious. But that movie works on a lot of other levels, and was a fantastic, original use of film.

If I saw them as a kid.... Dunno.  But as an adult I'm not sure what those F&F movies bring, tbh. And it's more what I see as a prevailing stance in American culture that wants to perpetuate and reward unoriginal retreads rather than original thought or vision.

 

[Ilov80s]

"Chimes at Midnight" - Orson Welles's amalgam of Falstaff's scenes from Shakespeare's history plays into one story, with the director portraying the man he was born to play - is on TCM @ 8pm tonite

DVR'd that one for sure. I also recommend:

Make Way For Tomorrow 7:45 AM Saturday the delightful Leo McCarey broke my heart with this movie when I first saw it. It's about the later stages of life- no job, kids have moved away and the world seems to have passed one by. Such a strong recommendation on this one.

Act of Violence is part of the Noir Alley Sunday at 10:00 AM. A great lesser known noir from Fred Zinneman. Just a couple years before he directed High Noon and From Here to Eternity, he unleashed the dark tale of a WW2 veteran hellbent on revenge.