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[dirtyhalos]

shenanigans!!!

 

[redman]

First round's in the bag.

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.01 1. Brian Smith Johnson, Calvin DET WR (R)  Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 1.02 2. Carlos Rodrigues Peterson, Adrian MIN RB (R)  Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 1.03 3. Will Grant Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB (R)  Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 1.04 4. Nick Chadick Rice, Sidney MIN WR (R)  Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007 1.05 5. Jeff Pasquino Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB (R)  Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007 1.06 6. Ben Bregitzer Meachem, Robert NOS WR (R)  Tue May 1 9:15:19 a.m. PT 2007 1.07 7. Jeff Pasquino Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR (R)  Tue May 1 9:29:34 a.m. PT 2007 1.08 8. Jeff Pasquino Willis, Patrick SFO LB (R)  Tue May 1 10:02:57 a.m. PT 2007 1.09 9. Alex Fernandez Jackson, Brandon GBP RB (R)  Tue May 1 10:36:14 a.m. PT 2007 1.10 10. Jake Bachman Olsen, Greg CHI TE (R)  Tue May 1 2:10:48 p.m. PT 2007 1.11 11. Sigmund Bloom Bush, Michael OAK RB (R)  Tue May 1 2:58:39 p.m. PT 2007 1.12 12. Carlos Rodrigues Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR (R)  Tue May 1 3:31:26 p.m. PT 2007 1.13 13. Jeff Pasquino Posluszny, Paul BUF LB (R)  Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007 1.14 14. Terry Winfree Quinn, Brady CLE QB (R)  Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007 1.15 15. Jake Parrish Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR (R)  Tue May 1 4:05:38 p.m. PT 2007 1.16 16. Chris Overton Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB (R)  Tue May 1 4:23:41 p.m. PT 2007

 

[PatsWillWin]

Olsen???

 

[dirtyhalos]

Olsen???

te scoring is very generous

 

[ClownDogs]

Olsen???

te scoring is very generous

And my current TE's aren't gonna be very generous. Was between him and Jarrett, and I, for the first time, went with need instead of want.

 

[redman]

Olsen???

te scoring is very generous

PPR is weighted as follows: TE > WR > RB'sA good receiving TE is worth a lot, comparable to a good RB2, and an elite guy like Gates is comparable to an average RB1. Plus, TE's are the only position that you can switch out with RB's in your lineup; you can only ever start 3 WR's, but you can start either 2 RB's and 1 TE, or 1 RB and 2 TE's.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

First round's in the bag.

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments

1.01 1. Brian Smith Johnson, Calvin DET WR ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.02 2. Carlos Rodrigues Peterson, Adrian MIN RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.03 3. Will Grant Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.04 4. Nick Chadick Rice, Sidney MIN WR ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007

1.05 5. Jeff Pasquino Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007

1.06 6. Ben Bregitzer Meachem, Robert NOS WR ® Tue May 1 9:15:19 a.m. PT 2007

1.07 7. Jeff Pasquino Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ® Tue May 1 9:29:34 a.m. PT 2007

1.08 8. Jeff Pasquino Willis, Patrick SFO LB ® Tue May 1 10:02:57 a.m. PT 2007

1.09 9. Alex Fernandez Jackson, Brandon GBP RB ® Tue May 1 10:36:14 a.m. PT 2007

1.10 10. Jake Bachman Olsen, Greg CHI TE ® Tue May 1 2:10:48 p.m. PT 2007

1.11 11. Sigmund Bloom Bush, Michael OAK RB ® Tue May 1 2:58:39 p.m. PT 2007

1.12 12. Carlos Rodrigues Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR ® Tue May 1 3:31:26 p.m. PT 2007

1.13 13. Jeff Pasquino Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007

1.14 14. Terry Winfree Quinn, Brady CLE QB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007

1.15 15. Jake Parrish Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR ® Tue May 1 4:05:38 p.m. PT 2007

1.16 16. Chris Overton Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB ® Tue May 1 4:23:41 p.m. PT 2007

Four picks in the 1st and no RBs. I can't believe that's how it went down.With solid LB scoring (several LBs were Top 50 players in this format in '06) and ability to start four, that was $$ for me. Russell (well that was my pre-draft and SOMEONE started early) might be a tad high, but I had Bowe over Meachem - albeit very slightly. I was torn on #8 with Jackson, but decided to take the far better player in Willis.

Getting Poz was a killer end of a solid first round. Two picks to go (2.10, 4.something).

 

[shake zula]

marc offer sent

 

[redman]

First round's in the bag.

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments

1.01 1. Brian Smith Johnson, Calvin DET WR ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.02 2. Carlos Rodrigues Peterson, Adrian MIN RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.03 3. Will Grant Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007

1.04 4. Nick Chadick Rice, Sidney MIN WR ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007

1.05 5. Jeff Pasquino Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007

1.06 6. Ben Bregitzer Meachem, Robert NOS WR ® Tue May 1 9:15:19 a.m. PT 2007

1.07 7. Jeff Pasquino Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ® Tue May 1 9:29:34 a.m. PT 2007

1.08 8. Jeff Pasquino Willis, Patrick SFO LB ® Tue May 1 10:02:57 a.m. PT 2007

1.09 9. Alex Fernandez Jackson, Brandon GBP RB ® Tue May 1 10:36:14 a.m. PT 2007

1.10 10. Jake Bachman Olsen, Greg CHI TE ® Tue May 1 2:10:48 p.m. PT 2007

1.11 11. Sigmund Bloom Bush, Michael OAK RB ® Tue May 1 2:58:39 p.m. PT 2007

1.12 12. Carlos Rodrigues Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR ® Tue May 1 3:31:26 p.m. PT 2007

1.13 13. Jeff Pasquino Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007

1.14 14. Terry Winfree Quinn, Brady CLE QB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007

1.15 15. Jake Parrish Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR ® Tue May 1 4:05:38 p.m. PT 2007

1.16 16. Chris Overton Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB ® Tue May 1 4:23:41 p.m. PT 2007

Four picks in the 1st and no RBs. I can't believe that's how it went down.With solid LB scoring (several LBs were Top 50 players in this format in '06) and ability to start four, that was $$ for me. Russell (well that was my pre-draft and SOMEONE started early) might be a tad high, but I had Bowe over Meachem - albeit very slightly. I was torn on #8 with Jackson, but decided to take the far better player in Willis.

Getting Poz was a killer end of a solid first round. Two picks to go (2.10, 4.something).

Solid picks all the way around, Jeff. If you hadn't taken Poz, I likely would have at 1.16, even over Booker who I think is there.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Olsen???

te scoring is very generous

PPR is weighted as follows: TE > WR > RB'sA good receiving TE is worth a lot, comparable to a good RB2, and an elite guy like Gates is comparable to an average RB1. Plus, TE's are the only position that you can switch out with RB's in your lineup; you can only ever start 3 WR's, but you can start either 2 RB's and 1 TE, or 1 RB and 2 TE's.

ahh. that makes a little more sense now. thanks.

 

[Warpig]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.

Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

 

[shake zula]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

Mike Walker? :X

 

[shake zula]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

Mike Walker? :X

Don't confuse me with Rudnicki, he is going to hell and I want nothing to do with anything he touches.

 

[Warpig]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

Mike Walker? :X

Don't confuse me with Rudnicki, he is going to hell and I want nothing to do with anything he touches.

Sorry, last I saw Fernandez was on the clock so when I got the email I assumed it was you.My bad. Still a terrible pick though.

 

[shake zula]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

Mike Walker?

Don't confuse me with Rudnicki, he is going to hell and I want nothing to do with anything he touches.

Sorry, last I saw Fernandez was on the clock so when I got the email I assumed it was you.My bad. Still a terrible pick though.

Agreed. That pick makes baby Jesus sob.

 

[Warpig]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

 

[comfortably numb]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

 

[Warpig]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

 

[KTM]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

 

[dirtyhalos]

1.01 1. Brian Smith Johnson, Calvin DET WR ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.02 2. Carlos Rodrigues Peterson, Adrian MIN RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.03 3. Will Grant Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB ® Tue May 1 6:00:08 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.04 4. Nick Chadick Rice, Sidney MIN WR ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007 This guy is a super talent that I just can't pass up on. He will replace one of my old studs just fine in 2008.

1.05 5. Jeff Pasquino Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ® Tue May 1 8:22:09 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.06 6. Ben Bregitzer Meachem, Robert NOS WR ® Tue May 1 9:15:19 a.m. PT 2007

1.07 7. Jeff Pasquino Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ® Tue May 1 9:29:34 a.m. PT 2007

1.08 8. Jeff Pasquino Willis, Patrick SFO LB ® Tue May 1 10:02:57 a.m. PT 2007

1.09 9. Alex Fernandez Jackson, Brandon GBP RB ® Tue May 1 10:36:14 a.m. PT 2007

1.10 10. Jake Bachman Olsen, Greg CHI TE ® Tue May 1 2:10:48 p.m. PT 2007

1.11 11. Sigmund Bloom Bush, Michael OAK RB ® Tue May 1 2:58:39 p.m. PT 2007

1.12 12. Carlos Rodrigues Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR ® Tue May 1 3:31:26 p.m. PT 2007

1.13 13. Jeff Pasquino Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007

1.14 14. Terry Winfree Quinn, Brady CLE QB ® Tue May 1 3:51:09 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.15 15. Jake Parrish Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR ® Tue May 1 4:05:38 p.m. PT 2007

1.16 16. Chris Overton Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB ® Tue May 1 4:23:41 p.m. PT 2007 I love this guy in PPR leagues, and I think the new regime in Miami drafted him because they want to use him.

2.01 17. Aaron Rudnicki Beason, Jon CAR LB ® Tue May 1 5:11:00 p.m. PT 2007

2.02 18. Brian Smith Henry, Chris TEN RB ® Tue May 1 5:28:34 p.m. PT 2007 dont know if i like him, dont know if i even gave a 2nd thought to him til he fell to pick 18, i am going to be hurting at rb, so thought worth the gamble of 24th/39th picks for a shot......fingers crossed

2.03 19. Jake Bachman Landry, LaRon WAS S ® Tue May 1 5:52:01 p.m. PT 2007

2.04 20. Jake Bachman Jones, Jacoby HOU WR ® Tue May 1 6:01:46 p.m. PT 2007

2.05 21. Terry Winfree Miller, Zach OAK TE ® Tue May 1 6:11:20 p.m. PT 2007

2.06 22. Sigmund Bloom Stanton, Drew DET QB ® Tue May 1 6:45:04 p.m. PT 2007

2.07 23. Aaron Rudnicki Beck, John MIA QB ® Tue May 1 6:54:35 p.m. PT 2007

2.08 24. Chris Overton Williams, Paul TEN WR ® Tue May 1 8:13:43 p.m. PT 2007 He's either going to make me look like a genius or a fool, but he's got undeniable skills and zero competition. Vince Young, work your magic!

2.09 25. Jake Parrish Smith, Steve NYG WR ® Tue May 1 8:13:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.10 26. Jeff Pasquino Allison, Aundrae MIN WR ® Tue May 1 8:13:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.11 27. Ben Bregitzer Irons, Kenny CIN RB ® Tue May 1 8:13:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.12 28. Alex Fernandez Davis, Craig SDC WR ® Wed May 2 5:32:29 a.m. PT 2007

2.13 29. Marc Faletti Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR ® Wed May 2 5:32:29 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.14 30. Marc Faletti Hill, Jason SFO WR ® Wed May 2 5:32:29 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.15 31. Aaron Rudnicki Walker, Mike JAC WR ® Wed May 2 8:02:04 a.m. PT 2007

2.16 32. Marc Faletti Harris, David NYJ LB ® Wed May 2 8:18:30 a.m. PT 2007

3.01 33. Will Grant Spencer, Anthony DAL DE ® Wed May 2 8:18:30 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.02 34. Marc Faletti Higgins, Johnnie Lee OAK WR ® Wed May 2 8:21:38 a.m. PT 2007

3.03 35. Jake Parrish Davis, Buster ARI LB ® Wed May 2 9:07:44 a.m. PT 2007

3.04 36. Sigmund Bloom Pittman, Antonio NOS RB ® Wed May 2 9:07:44 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.05 37. Derek Tonn Waiting On Derek Tonn For The Next Pick

3.06 38. Ben Bregitzer Pre-Draft Selection Made

3.07 39. Chris Overton

3.08 40. Jake Parrish Pre-Draft Selection Made

 

[Warpig]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

 

[comfortably numb]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

Is that supposed to be a smile face penis?

 

[dirtyhalos]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

Is that supposed to be a smile face penis?

:reported:

 

[Warpig]

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNN! Make a damn pick.

SHHHHDerek is sleeping

Is that who we're waiting on? I thought we were waiting on some folks that were prowling around in here.

Is that supposed to be a smile face penis?

:reported:

 

[dirtyhalos]

ben, tonn to troy smith, you are otc, send me a pm and i can make it for you

 

[comfortably numb]

ben, tonn to troy smith, you are otc, send me a pm and i can make it for you

He is too busy playing with smilies...

 

[Warpig]

ben, tonn to troy smith, you are otc, send me a pm and i can make it for you

Damn...everyone on my pre-draft list got snagged.Gimme a sec/min/hour/day.

 

[dirtyhalos]

:zzzzz:

 

[Warpig]

:zzzzz:

Check yo messages homey.

 

[Warpig]

You all are gonna love this next pick...

 

[dirtyhalos]

3.06 38. Ben Bregitzer Leonard, Brian STL RB ® Wed May 2 2:00:38 p.m. ET 2007 pick made by commish

 

[Warpig]

3.06 38. Ben Bregitzer Leonard, Brian STL RB ® Wed May 2 2:00:38 p.m. ET 2007 pick made by commish

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Still a terrible pick though.

O RLY?care to explain why?congrats on drafting a 3rd string RB and a FB. pretty impressive

 

[Warpig]

reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Still a terrible pick though.

O RLY?care to explain why?congrats on drafting a 3rd string RB and a FB. pretty impressive

No WR on the Jags is worth my flatulence. They have a mess at WR and at QB.On Leonard, he's 2nd on the depth chart behind Jackson...he will get utilized. No RB in this league is bullet proof and I think he'll get a decent amount of touches.Besides, I thought you "sharks" always say to draft according to talent and not situation? Leonard is one of the most athletically skilled players in the draft. *eta* What team drafts a FULLBACK in the 2nd round? I think he'll be a sneaky pick and I'm glad to have him.

 

[redman]

Fernandez reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.

Any other picks made since this? I thought Faletti said he actually pre-drafted his picks?

Mike Walker?

Don't confuse me with Rudnicki, he is going to hell and I want nothing to do with anything he touches.

Sorry, last I saw Fernandez was on the clock so when I got the email I assumed it was you.

My bad.

Still a terrible pick though.

Agreed. That pick makes baby Jesus sob.

It is clear that Aaron Rudnicki does not know what the dynasty rookie draft is about![/Kiper]

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Still a terrible pick though.

O RLY?care to explain why?congrats on drafting a 3rd string RB and a FB. pretty impressive

No WR on the Jags is worth my flatulence. They have a mess at WR and at QB.On Leonard, he's 2nd on the depth chart behind Jackson...he will get utilized. No RB in this league is bullet proof and I think he'll get a decent amount of touches.Besides, I thought you "sharks" always say to draft according to talent and not situation? Leonard is one of the most athletically skilled players in the draft. *eta* What team drafts a FULLBACK in the 2nd round? I think he'll be a sneaky pick and I'm glad to have him.

I actually like Leonard a lot and considered taking him with each of my first 3 picks. But, not only is Jackson ahead of him...he will also have to compete with Holt, Bruce, Bennett, McMichael, Klopfenstein, etc. for catches. Not sure there's enough balls to go around and Jackson is an excellent receiving option so it's unlikely he'll be pulled in 3rd down situations. The best scenario for Leonard to be worthwhile is an injury to Jackson and I wasn't looking to play the lottery here.Anyway, I was comfortable with my RBs. When I took Beck with my middle pick in round 2, there were a handful of WRs I liked and I figured one would drop to my next pick. Well, 3 of them went in the picks right before I was up (Davis, Gonzalez, Hill). I don't think any IDP was worth that pick and I already feel pretty stacked at LB. I already drafted 1 QB and didn't feel like I needed to burn another pick on one there. There were certainly no TEs that warranted going there. So, WR was still clearly the best position to pick. If you think there were better WR options out there when I took Walker, then please share them. I think he clearly had the most upside of any WRs left. I think Walker has something Reggie Williams and Ernest Wilford lack...elite speed. And, certainly seems possible that the new offensive coordinator can get more production out of his WRs. As a Jags fan, do you not like Walker?

 

[Warpig]

reached WAAAAAAY down and nabbed Mike Walker at 2.15.Still a terrible pick though.

O RLY?care to explain why?congrats on drafting a 3rd string RB and a FB. pretty impressive

No WR on the Jags is worth my flatulence. They have a mess at WR and at QB.On Leonard, he's 2nd on the depth chart behind Jackson...he will get utilized. No RB in this league is bullet proof and I think he'll get a decent amount of touches.Besides, I thought you "sharks" always say to draft according to talent and not situation? Leonard is one of the most athletically skilled players in the draft. *eta* What team drafts a FULLBACK in the 2nd round? I think he'll be a sneaky pick and I'm glad to have him.

I actually like Leonard a lot and considered taking him with each of my first 3 picks. But, not only is Jackson ahead of him...he will also have to compete with Holt, Bruce, Bennett, McMichael, Klopfenstein, etc. for catches. Not sure there's enough balls to go around and Jackson is an excellent receiving option so it's unlikely he'll be pulled in 3rd down situations. The best scenario for Leonard to be worthwhile is an injury to Jackson and I wasn't looking to play the lottery here.Anyway, I was comfortable with my RBs. When I took Beck with my middle pick in round 2, there were a handful of WRs I liked and I figured one would drop to my next pick. Well, 3 of them went in the picks right before I was up (Davis, Gonzalez, Hill). I don't think any IDP was worth that pick and I already feel pretty stacked at LB. I already drafted 1 QB and didn't feel like I needed to burn another pick on one there. There were certainly no TEs that warranted going there. So, WR was still clearly the best position to pick. If you think there were better WR options out there when I took Walker, then please share them. I think he clearly had the most upside of any WRs left.

I agree that there just isn't that much talent in this years draft. I was going through the same thought process as you before I picked Leonard. I wanted Troy Smith but he got snagged by Tonn right before my pick. There's really not alot of skill available.I'm just saying as a Jags homer, I don't like what's brewing down there in J-ville. I have never liked Del Rio as a head coach and it seems the fans down there, as well as the FO, are starting to agree with me. If Del Rio goes after this year or next, it's a rebuilding team with the new coaching staff and Walker may be SOL.Leonard is with a HC that is fairly new and promising so I think his future may be a bit brighter. Bruce will more than likely be gone after this year and Klopfenstein doesn't worry me. He will have to fight with Holt and Jackson, but I envision him as an outlet for Bulger with that turnstile O-line they have in STL.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If you think there were better WR options out there when I took Walker, then please share them. I think he clearly had the most upside of any WRs left. I think Walker has something Reggie Williams and Ernest Wilford lack...elite speed. And, certainly seems possible that the new offensive coordinator can get more production out of his WRs. As a Jags fan, do you not like Walker?

I really like Walker, but his combine 40 time does not reflect his game speed. He is not a true burner. He's more of a crafty WR who is courageous and physical than a guy who does well by creating deep separation. He'll do most of his damage in the first 15 yards after the LoS.While we're at it, Hill's combine 40 time was also deceptive. He does not separate with ease, he gets by on toughness and clutch instincts and ball skills more than straight line speed. I don't blame these guys for training specifically to shave tenths off their 40 time, but it doesn't change what you see on film. You can either separate with ease, or you can't, and neither of these guys can.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

If you think there were better WR options out there when I took Walker, then please share them. I think he clearly had the most upside of any WRs left. I think Walker has something Reggie Williams and Ernest Wilford lack...elite speed. And, certainly seems possible that the new offensive coordinator can get more production out of his WRs. As a Jags fan, do you not like Walker?

I really like Walker, but his combine 40 time does not reflect his game speed. He is not a true burner. He's more of a crafty WR who is courageous and physical than a guy who does well by creating deep separation. He'll do most of his damage in the first 15 yards after the LoS.While we're at it, Hill's combine 40 time was also deceptive. He does not separate with ease, he gets by on toughness and clutch instincts and ball skills more than straight line speed. I don't blame these guys for training specifically to shave tenths off their 40 time, but it doesn't change what you see on film. You can either separate with ease, or you can't, and neither of these guys can.

you don't think the ACL recovery had something to do with that?

The following is an excerpt from the transcript of Head Coach Jack Del Rio's press conference following the first day of the 2007 NFL Draft.

(was it a good day?) “We are happy with the results. It was a productive day. We wanted to add speed and we were hoping to add some defensive players. We were able to do that. We got a really exciting linebacker in the second round – a good run and hit guy. We feel like we solidified a spot that had an opening at safety and we were able to get a real fine player there with speed. Then our last pick, we got a wide receiver with good hands, he’s a good route runner and he’s got speed. We feel like his best football is ahead of him. In all three cases, we brought in guys with passion for football. When you watch the tape, you can watch the passion jump off the tape.”

(on characterizing Mike Walker) “I think the best thing to do is take a look and watch him in spring. We think he is a good football player and a good route runner. He is a competitive player who played some defense in college. He’s played some safety. He is a physical player. He’s a really good player.”

(did you find him at the Combine?) “No, we’ve been tracking him. We were wondering what he would run. George O’Leary is a guy that several guys on our staff know well and Central Florida is right down the road in our backyard. Our scouts cover them well. He’s a good football player, but it was just a matter of if he got his speed back off of the injury. That was the last hurdle for him. He was a guy, if he got his speed back, who would make a big impact.”

(on your wide receivers on the roster) “We are going to make it competitive. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were another guy or two added tomorrow. We are going to have a competitive group. We like the picks we have made over the last couple of years and we have a young, promising group. The addition of Dennis Northcutt was a very solid addition. He’s a great young man that has brought a work ethic and an approach to the game that is more veteran and more polished, and he has been a really good addition to our group. The room is better with him here. We have added Mike now and we are going to continue to make that group competitive. I think Todd Monken is a very detailed-oriented, high-energy coach, so we are very excited to see where that group can go.”

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If you think there were better WR options out there when I took Walker, then please share them. I think he clearly had the most upside of any WRs left. I think Walker has something Reggie Williams and Ernest Wilford lack...elite speed. And, certainly seems possible that the new offensive coordinator can get more production out of his WRs. As a Jags fan, do you not like Walker?

I really like Walker, but his combine 40 time does not reflect his game speed. He is not a true burner. He's more of a crafty WR who is courageous and physical than a guy who does well by creating deep separation. He'll do most of his damage in the first 15 yards after the LoS.While we're at it, Hill's combine 40 time was also deceptive. He does not separate with ease, he gets by on toughness and clutch instincts and ball skills more than straight line speed. I don't blame these guys for training specifically to shave tenths off their 40 time, but it doesn't change what you see on film. You can either separate with ease, or you can't, and neither of these guys can.

you don't think the ACL recovery had something to do with that?

Im not saying he's slow, I'm just saying that his game is not based on speed. He might have gotten some burst back between the end of the season and combine, but thats only 2 months. I don't expect the Jags to use him to stretch defenses.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Im not saying he's slow, I'm just saying that his game is not based on speed. He might have gotten some burst back between the end of the season and combine, but thats only 2 months. I don't expect the Jags to use him to stretch defenses.

fine with me if he's physical and a good route runner with good speed to boot. I still think he can be faster than Reggie Williams and Ernest Wilford, but maybe that's not asking a whole lot.I'm still not sure why Ben thinks he was a "huge reach" other than he hates Jack Del Rio and thinks all Jags WRs will be useless.I'm not too happy with the way this draft has gone.Traded down from 1.10 to 2.01 and picked up the 2.15 pick in addition to my 2.07 pick. With my first 4 picks, I wound up with:2.01 LB Jon Beason2.07 QB John Beck2.15 WR Mike Walker3.10 QB Trent EdwardsI was happy to get a LB from the top-tier in Beason but was hoping that Posluszny would be there at 2.01. I passed on Stanton with the 2.01 but was hoping he or Zach Miller would be there for me at 2.07 and they went in the 2 picks before me. I think Beck has a shot to give me a 3rd starting QB, which I'll need since my top 2 share a bye week this year and Kitna is old. I passed on WRs at 2.07 b/c there were a bunch left and none stood out to me at the time. I hoped Davis, Gonzalez, or Hill would slide to me at 2.15 but they went in the 3 picks before me. With my first 3 picks, I felt like nobody fell to me and all the guys I targeted were gone right before my pick came up. In the 3rd, I would have loved to see Brian Leonard there after giving him serious consideration with my first 3 picks but that didn't happen either. Since I already have Losman and Nall, I figured I might as well complete the trifecta and add Edwards. Kolb was a value consideration there but he probably would have just been trade bait anyway.

 

[redman]

My rookie draft's over. I picked up the following guys:

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection 1.16 16. Chris Overton Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB (R) 2.08 24. Chris Overton Williams, Paul TEN WR (R) 3.07 39. Chris Overton Piscitelli, Sabby TBB S (R) 3.16 48. Chris Overton Black, Quincy TBB LB (R) 4.01 49. Chris Overton Anderson, Jamaal ATL DE (R)It's a well-rounded draft, assisting different positions, which makes it a bit easier to find roster space for that "one extra player" you inevitably find yourself with come the roster cut-down. A few comments:1.16 Lorenzo Booker MIA RB: I was very pleased he fell to me here. While I have LT, my RB2 is Lendale and then a bunch of scrubs (C. Brown; Houston; A Train), and Booker reminds me a little of Leon Washington, a mighty mite who is talented and may end up starting. And in a PPR league his receiving abilties are very attractive.

I then traded down with Brian from the 2.02, as follows:

Chris Overton gave up Year 2007 Draft Pick 2.02;Year 2007 Draft Pick 5.16

Brian Smith gave up Year 2007 Draft Pick 2.08;Year 2007 Draft Pick 3.07

I felt like jumping up 2.5 rounds was a nice benefit in exchange for dropping only six picks in the second round of a relatively weak draft, so I went for it.

2.08 Paul Williams TEN WR: This is a pure upside pick. In a relatively thin rookie draft, I decided that rather than settle for "safe" picks in Anthony Gonzalez or Steve Smith, I'd go with a guy who had a chance to be a stud if things break right. Williams has freakish talent and is unique in his WR corps in Tennessee in that regard, but his dedication to the game is questionable. I'm hoping Vince Young can inspire this guy to achieve his greatness.

3.07 Sabby Piscatelli TBB S: I got some ridicule for this pick, but I believe that this guy is the best safety in the draft not named Landry. He's big, physical, athletic, and a leader. I could see him anchoring the TB defense for years the way that John Lynch did for so long.

3.16 Quincy Black TBB LB: Black is a steal here. He's the heir apparent to Derrick Brooks. I might have to wait a year or two, but that's ok. 'Nuff said.

4.01 Jamaal Anderson ATL DE: I was simply looking for value here. The only DE drafted to this point was Spencer, which I found odd actually, so I jumped on Anderson who I like more than Adams because his size lends itself to being a factor in the running game. Like with Mario Williams last year, I'm hoping that he grows into his potential by developing a game that matches his crazy combine numbers. As a bonus, he'll get all the chances in the world to succeed as the Falcons' 8th overall draft pick.

My depth chart:

QB: Bulger; Frerotte, Carr, Wallace, Martin

RB: Tomlinson; L. White; Booker; Houston; A. Thomas; C. Brown

WR: Colston; Burress; Porter; Henry; Baskett; Williams; Randle El

TE: Scheffler; Graham; Wiggins

PK: Kaeding; Suisham

DT: J. Williams; M. Myers

DE: Peppers; Suggs; Anderson; LaBoy; Dumervil

LB: Pierce; Hayes; Gaither; Brooks; Anderson; Dobbins; Black; Quarles

CB: Mathis; McFadden; Herndon; Dyson

S: A. Wilson; N. Collins; Milloy; Sanders; Piscitelli; Knight

My only regrets coming out of this draft were my inability to bolster my QB or TE corps, but that couldn't be helped in a relatively weak draft year. I took a straight BPA approach and just didn't feel comfortable drafting the QB and TE prospects where I would have needed to in order to land them.

 

[dirtyhalos]

4.07 Aaron Rudnicki Rouse, Aaron GBP S 9:43:28 p.m.

woow, you reached wwwaaaaaayyyyy deep on that one

:X

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

4.07 Aaron Rudnicki Rouse, Aaron GBP S 9:43:28 p.m.woow, you reached wwwaaaaaayyyyy deep on that one

 

[shake zula]

1.09 9. Alex Fernandez Jackson, Brandon GBP RB (R) Tue May 1 1:36:14 p.m. ET 20072.12 28. Alex Fernandez Davis, Craig SDC WR (R) Wed May 2 8:32:29 a.m. ET 20073.13 45. Alex Fernandez Timmons, Lawrence PIT LB (R) Wed May 2 6:21:05 p.m. ET 20074.02 50. Alex Fernandez Adams, Gaines TBB DE (R) Wed May 2 9:08:21 p.m. ET 20074.12 60. Alex Fernandez Nelson, Reggie JAC S (R) Wed May 2 11:25:20 p.m. ET 20074.13 61. Alex Fernandez Davis, Chris TEN WR (R) Wed May 2 11:28:49 p.m. ET 2007
about my draft but please flame away ladies.

 

[comfortably numb]

Here is how my ROOKIE draft shaped out....

1.02

RB-MIN-Adrian Peterson

After trading up to 1.1, Brian kept calling me and leaving messages of the "breathing hard" variety. He wanted it. Knowing Brians hard on for Calvin, I took the chance traded down and still got my man.

That trade was made over a month ago:

I gave

1.01--2.01--2.15--3.07

for

1.02--3.02--2008 1st RD pick from Brian

1.12

WR-CAR-Dwayne Jarrett

I was eyeing MBush all the way, and was ready to pull the trigger. Bloom snagged him.

I took Jarrett, considered going LB, but figured I could use the WR depth, and the pick was made minutes after Pasquino broke the news on Keyshawn.

My next pick was 3.3 I was not thrilled here, could have gone LB, Davis or Nichoals, but found a partner and made a deal.

I gave

3.03 & 4.08

for

Jake Parrish 2008 2nd RD pick

3.14

RB-BUF-Dwayne Wright

Could have gone DE or DT here, but as the RB ho that I am, I took a chance on Wright. Worst case is he earns a back up role in Buffalo to another rookie. Worth the risk IMO.

4.04

RB-KC-Kolby Smith

Like I said, a RB ho...I have Bennett & Ross, so I figured Smith would land me the KC backup, unless they add someone else. Also considered Carriker, Okwo

4.10

DE-STL-Adam Carriker

Basically went with BPA. He could contribute in year 1, but overall I think he has a solid career ahead of him.

Roster now looks like.

QB

Rothlisberger, Garcia, Batch, Rodgers, Fitzpatrick

RB

Caddy, APeterson MIN, Jacobs, AGreen, MBell, Dillon, Bennett, Ross, Kolby Smith, DWright

WR

Chad, Ward, Horn, BJohnson, Jarrett, RWhite, KWashington, Orr, Hass, Morant, DAnderson

TE

Gonzolez, Heiden

K

Mare, Tynes

DT

BYoung, Pickett, FRobbins

DE

Carriker, JGreen, TPryce, Jason Taylor

LB

Ayanbadejo, Boley,CDraft, LFoote, Haggans, LJoe, Nece, Short, Adalius, Demorio, Sam Williams,

CB

Champ,WHarris, Paymah, FSmoot

S

YBell, CCBrown, Chavous, Lamont Thompson

My 2008 Draft picks

1st RD

1st RD from Brian

2nd RD

2nd RD from Jake Parrish

3rd RD

4th RD

5th RD

 

[Warpig]

1.09 	9. 	Alex Fernandez 	Jackson, Brandon GBP RB (R) 	Tue May 1 1:36:14 p.m. ET 20072.12 	28. 	Alex Fernandez 	Davis, Craig SDC WR (R) 	Wed May 2 8:32:29 a.m. ET 20073.13 	45. 	Alex Fernandez 	Timmons, Lawrence PIT LB (R) 	Wed May 2 6:21:05 p.m. ET 20074.02 	50. 	Alex Fernandez 	Adams, Gaines TBB DE (R) 	Wed May 2 9:08:21 p.m. ET 20074.12 	60. 	Alex Fernandez 	Nelson, Reggie JAC S (R) 	Wed May 2 11:25:20 p.m. ET 20074.13 	61. 	Alex Fernandez 	Davis, Chris TEN WR (R) 	Wed May 2 11:28:49 p.m. ET 2007

about my draft but please flame away ladies.

You have my approval. Solid.

 

[Warpig]

Here is how my ROOKIE draft shaped out....

4.10

DE-STL-Adam Carriker

Basically went with BPA. He could contribute in year 1, but overall I think he has a solid career ahead of him.

Roster now looks like.

DT

BYoung, Pickett, FRobbins, Carriker

DE

Carriker, JGreen, TPryce, Jason Taylor

Fixed. I read that STL is planning on moving Carriker to DT. I was looking at him last night and I was all set to have him #1 on my pre-draft list until that scared me off of him.

Good luck. Maybe they won't move him.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ® 1.07 Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ® 1.08 Willis, Patrick SFO LB ® 1.13 Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ® 2.10 Allison, Aundrae MIN WR ® 4.14 Hairston, Justise NEP RB ® - Someone has to be the 2nd back in NE - why not him?

I needed WR help but Russell is too good to pass up at 5. I like Bowe over Meachem, so I'm happy there. Willis and Pos are likely starters for me this year, so I'm also happy with those. Did feel rather strange taking 4 picks in the Top 13 and no RBs.Aundrae Allison in the 2nd made me feel better about only 1 WR in Round 1. 4.14 was a gift in a trade of Sage Rosenfels, and I thought about Hairston or Ben Patrick there (who went at the next pick). Gamble either way.Overall happy with it. I'll post my complete team in a minute.

 

[shake zula]

1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB ® 1.07 Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR ® 1.08 Willis, Patrick SFO LB ® 1.13 Posluszny, Paul BUF LB ® 2.10 Allison, Aundrae MIN WR ® 4.14 Hairston, Justise NEP RB ® - Someone has to be the 2nd back in NE - why not him?

I needed WR help but Russell is too good to pass up at 5. I like Bowe over Meachem, so I'm happy there. Willis and Pos are likely starters for me this year, so I'm also happy with those. Did feel rather strange taking 4 picks in the Top 13 and no RBs.Aundrae Allison in the 2nd made me feel better about only 1 WR in Round 1. 4.14 was a gift in a trade of Sage Rosenfels, and I thought about Hairston or Ben Patrick there (who went at the next pick). Gamble either way.Overall happy with it. I'll post my complete team in a minute.

I think you've had one of the best rookie drafts so far....a little bit of a reach on Allison, but #### if you wanted him that bad...