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dirtyhalos said:like it mattersAnthony Borbely said:You might have more credibility if you could spell my name correctly.dirtyhalos said:
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dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
is that like a donkey show?Something close to that
ditka85
Footballguy
is that like a donkey show?Something close to that
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
truth is it just kind of happened, i wanted to start a league and got talking with bloom (known him for a while in one league) over the rules, spent quite a bit of time going over the format, i know rudnicki a bit too, once those 2 were on board it was easy to add a couple other staffers, the opportunity to embarrass each other is always tempting, the message board guys were found via pm's that i sent to some of the more active posters at the time, quite a few turndowns, but in the end found this group.......it kind of fell into place.........i know jeter23 has 3 versions of his hyper/active going now, believe full though, i think quite a few staffers are also in the no mercy and zealots leagues, best bet is to just join some of those leagues and out start to meet people.hope that helps
dirtyhalos
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1.07 chris johnson....i wasn't thrilled with my options here, had rice been around i would have done that, i was debating felix but once i was forced to decide i started watching videos....i came away thinking that cj is a hell of a weapon, this guy is fast and it shows on the field........IF the titans use him right, i think i will have a gem there, rbs only get 0.5ppr, but i'll still take it.......again, wasn't thrilled with who was there, but i'm beginning to like the direction i went.
trade.....as soon as i pulled cj off the board, bloom offered me lendale/henry for edge, now normally when bloom sends me offers that i think make sense for me, i automatically decline, i dont trust myself against him.....i hesitated this time cause it just made tooo much sense....i took it and should be set 100% at rb 2 even in cj fails....at least thats what im telling myself
2.01... love kelly's hands/size, was a bit leary about his knees........i was debating him and a player still on the board so i wont go into him, if lofton was still around i probably would have gone him here to boost my idp side
trade.....as soon as i pulled cj off the board, bloom offered me lendale/henry for edge, now normally when bloom sends me offers that i think make sense for me, i automatically decline, i dont trust myself against him.....i hesitated this time cause it just made tooo much sense....i took it and should be set 100% at rb 2 even in cj fails....at least thats what im telling myself
2.01... love kelly's hands/size, was a bit leary about his knees........i was debating him and a player still on the board so i wont go into him, if lofton was still around i probably would have gone him here to boost my idp side
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redman
Footballguy
There's the catch, eh? Don't play coy, cutie, we know you're curious.
redman
Footballguy
1.11 - Devin Thomas, WR, Redskins
I went into this draft recognizing that my WR's needed a talent infusion, and also that this draft offers good opportunity to do just that. I've got very good potential there (Demetrius Williams; Paul Williams; Jerry Porter; Chris Henry ( ), but outside of Colston I just don't have anyone who I can rely upon, week in and week out, to produce. Thomas has a great combination of speed, strength and agility, and he's going into a passing oriented offense. He should thrive.
I went into this draft recognizing that my WR's needed a talent infusion, and also that this draft offers good opportunity to do just that. I've got very good potential there (Demetrius Williams; Paul Williams; Jerry Porter; Chris Henry (
), but outside of Colston I just don't have anyone who I can rely upon, week in and week out, to produce. Thomas has a great combination of speed, strength and agility, and he's going into a passing oriented offense. He should thrive.
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comfortably numb
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Coming of a Championship*, I felt I could shake things up a bit.
Mainly, dealing Chad for 1.2 and another late 1st.
After much wheeling and dealing in the off season,I come into the draft with mainly:
1.02
1.14
2.06
2.09
1.2
I was ecstatic to see McFadden on the board at 1.2, and did not hesitate to bring him aboard.
I like his value/prospects better than Mendenhall, so very easy choice for me.
Having ADP/McFadden on the roster assures BIG play making ability each week.
1.14
Was seriously considering going in a few directions.
1. WR. I could get a bit younger here as I have (Holt,Jennings,Ward,BJohnson).
Kelly was my main target, and was getting set to to select, when I realized Felix Jones was still on the board.
Now, Felix was the consensus #4 RB heading into the NFL draft, expecting to be taken by DAL.
He gets taken by Dallas and all the sudden, no one is touching him until at LEAST #6.
While I love Bloom's rankings, I personally think he single handedly, dropped Felix from everyones radar by ranking him as low as he did in his post draft rankings. After looking at the FBG rankings, and seeing mostly Felix is a top 6 pick (minus Bloom) I had to jump on value over need.
If you would have told me 2 months ago I would come away with Dmac and Felix at 1.2/1.14 I would have gave a dityhalos a a oily full body massage.
So I head into 08 with:
ADP
Maroney
McFadden
Felix
Betts
Mainly, dealing Chad for 1.2 and another late 1st.
After much wheeling and dealing in the off season,I come into the draft with mainly:
1.02
1.14
2.06
2.09
1.2
I was ecstatic to see McFadden on the board at 1.2, and did not hesitate to bring him aboard.
I like his value/prospects better than Mendenhall, so very easy choice for me.
Having ADP/McFadden on the roster assures BIG play making ability each week.
1.14
Was seriously considering going in a few directions.
1. WR. I could get a bit younger here as I have (Holt,Jennings,Ward,BJohnson).
Kelly was my main target, and was getting set to to select, when I realized Felix Jones was still on the board.
Now, Felix was the consensus #4 RB heading into the NFL draft, expecting to be taken by DAL.
He gets taken by Dallas and all the sudden, no one is touching him until at LEAST #6.
While I love Bloom's rankings, I personally think he single handedly, dropped Felix from everyones radar by ranking him as low as he did in his post draft rankings. After looking at the FBG rankings, and seeing mostly Felix is a top 6 pick (minus Bloom) I had to jump on value over need.
If you would have told me 2 months ago I would come away with Dmac and Felix at 1.2/1.14 I would have gave a dityhalos a a oily full body massage.
So I head into 08 with:
ADP
Maroney
McFadden
Felix
Betts
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
stick around ditka, we may have another opening sooncomfortably numb said:
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I cannot believe these guys passed on Felix Jones for 13 picks. What a bunch of #######.
Can't say ####### huh? Ok let me put it another way.
It was a retro-tardy move to pass on Jones for this long. Not only were they late, they recycled late and brought it back from the dead.
Can't say ####### huh? Ok let me put it another way.
It was a retro-tardy move to pass on Jones for this long. Not only were they late, they recycled late and brought it back from the dead.
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I agree with this statement, although i did pass on him at 1.09. I was drafting for need and with SJax/Addai, I didn't feel the "need" for a 3rd RB. I "needed" a backup QB for Romo and I had Redman, so I considered Ryan the no brainer pick for me.
redman
Footballguy
2.08 - Tavares Gooden, LB, Baltimore I went into this draft with three primary needs - at WR, at LB, and at backup QB. I addressed WR with my first pick, and with Mayo, Dizon and Lofton off the board, I had to grab one of the top LB's now or be left out in the cold. Also, Brohm (my favorite QB) was already taken, and I'm not a Flacco fan so LB was the move here. I like Gooden over Connor because while both enter as backups, Gooden is behind the elderly Ray Lewis and figures to be brought under RayRay's wing as a former Miami Hurricane to be mentored to take over the extremely valuable MLB job. He has limited value this year, but huge value going forward. 2.10 - Dan Connor, LB, Carolina Connor's here, but I don't love him. He's not an elite prospect and I worry about how much of his good rep is due to his pedigree rather than his actual abilities. He's also got a young stud ahead of him at MLB in Beason at the moment, unless they move Beason to WLB. I spent an hour going through the top WR's and I can't make any sense among the top six or so remaining WR's as to who leads out of that group (which includes Doucet, Nelson, Manningham, Simpson & Jackson, all of whom were drafted in the next six picks). I already have a bunch of young hopefuls at WR, so adding one more doesn't seem like a very good use of this pick. Highly drafted LB's also tend to put up numbers sooner than do WR's. It's Connor by default.Note- I tried to trade down out of both of these picks (not as a package though) to get an additional 3rd rounder, but couldn't work a deal.1.11 - Devin Thomas, WR, RedskinsI went into this draft recognizing that my WR's needed a talent infusion, and also that this draft offers good opportunity to do just that. I've got very good potential there (Demetrius Williams; Paul Williams; Jerry Porter; Chris Henry (), but outside of Colston I just don't have anyone who I can rely upon, week in and week out, to produce. Thomas has a great combination of speed, strength and agility, and he's going into a passing oriented offense. He should thrive.
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via trade, I wound up with no 1st round picks and 4 picks in round 2.
my team should have won the title last year so it didn't need a lot of help, but I needed some help at RB mostly and on offense in general.
at 2.02, all the quality RBs I was interested in were gone and I didn't want to reach for one. There were plenty of WRs available but I didn't think the talent dropoff would be significant from this point to my next picks. I do have some older linebackers though and Jordan Dizon was clearly the best IDP available. In a league where you can start up to 4 LBs each week and they can score as much as some QBs, it was tough to pass on him, but I wound up going with Brian Brohm instead. I have Jon Kitna as my QB1 and Trent Edwards currently as my QB2 with guys like John Beck and JP Losman as wildcards. Kitna is old and may not hold onto the job for more than this year, while Edwards should be solid but doesn't really have a high fantasy upside. Brohm has top-10 potential and good QBs can be tough to find in a 16-team dynasty league so I decided to roll the dice and hope he takes over in Green Bay by the time Kitna's career is winding down in Detroit.
when it was my turn to pick at 2.12, I owned 3 of the next 4 selections so there were a lot of different ways I could go here. There was still some great value on the IDP side with players like Chris Long and Kenny Phillips sitting out there, but I feel pretty good about my DE group thanks to Jared Allen and Kyle Vanden Bosch. And, safeties aren't that tough to find on the waiver wire. The LB group had been depleted thanks to Redman and others so I didn't want to reach for a 3rd or 4th round talent just to try and fill a slight need. Hence, I turned my attention to offense. I have a pretty solid group of wideouts already but it never hurts to have extras there and that was where the best value was in the draft at this point. So, I took Jordy Nelson and Mario Manningham. Nelson projects as a big possession receiver in a west coast offense which should be valuable in a PPR league like this. Depending on what happens with Burress, I wouldn't be surprised to see Manninham as the WR1 for Eli Manning in a couple years. Both players represented high upside picks with relatively low risk, IMO. With my last 2nd round pick, having significantly improved my depth at QB and WR already, I took a flier on Steve Slaton. Houston has a crowded backfield but it also appears to be wide open. Slaton may not have the size or strength to ever become a feature back, but at a minimum, he can hopefully be a 3rd down and big-play threat in a promising offense. It basically came down to him or Chris Long for me and I went with the position that filled a bigger need and is much harder to find or expensive to acquire.
I only have 1 more pick in this draft in round 5 so I'm pretty much done. I'm pretty happy with the guys I got, although I don't expect any of them to contribute much this year.
my team should have won the title last year so it didn't need a lot of help, but I needed some help at RB mostly and on offense in general.
at 2.02, all the quality RBs I was interested in were gone and I didn't want to reach for one. There were plenty of WRs available but I didn't think the talent dropoff would be significant from this point to my next picks. I do have some older linebackers though and Jordan Dizon was clearly the best IDP available. In a league where you can start up to 4 LBs each week and they can score as much as some QBs, it was tough to pass on him, but I wound up going with Brian Brohm instead. I have Jon Kitna as my QB1 and Trent Edwards currently as my QB2 with guys like John Beck and JP Losman as wildcards. Kitna is old and may not hold onto the job for more than this year, while Edwards should be solid but doesn't really have a high fantasy upside. Brohm has top-10 potential and good QBs can be tough to find in a 16-team dynasty league so I decided to roll the dice and hope he takes over in Green Bay by the time Kitna's career is winding down in Detroit.
when it was my turn to pick at 2.12, I owned 3 of the next 4 selections so there were a lot of different ways I could go here. There was still some great value on the IDP side with players like Chris Long and Kenny Phillips sitting out there, but I feel pretty good about my DE group thanks to Jared Allen and Kyle Vanden Bosch. And, safeties aren't that tough to find on the waiver wire. The LB group had been depleted thanks to Redman and others so I didn't want to reach for a 3rd or 4th round talent just to try and fill a slight need. Hence, I turned my attention to offense. I have a pretty solid group of wideouts already but it never hurts to have extras there and that was where the best value was in the draft at this point. So, I took Jordy Nelson and Mario Manningham. Nelson projects as a big possession receiver in a west coast offense which should be valuable in a PPR league like this. Depending on what happens with Burress, I wouldn't be surprised to see Manninham as the WR1 for Eli Manning in a couple years. Both players represented high upside picks with relatively low risk, IMO. With my last 2nd round pick, having significantly improved my depth at QB and WR already, I took a flier on Steve Slaton. Houston has a crowded backfield but it also appears to be wide open. Slaton may not have the size or strength to ever become a feature back, but at a minimum, he can hopefully be a 3rd down and big-play threat in a promising offense. It basically came down to him or Chris Long for me and I went with the position that filled a bigger need and is much harder to find or expensive to acquire.
I only have 1 more pick in this draft in round 5 so I'm pretty much done. I'm pretty happy with the guys I got, although I don't expect any of them to contribute much this year.
3.03 DT Glenn Dorsey, Chiefs
Had to trade back into the 2008 draft by sending my #1 in 2009 and CB Chris Houston for Smith's #2 in 2009, the 3.03 (Dorsey) and WR Aundrae Allison. I just couldn't stand to see Dorsey fall any further than 3.03. He's "just" a DT...but he's going to be special and one of the very-best DTs in the NFL in very short order, and should post some nice tackles and sacks figures compared to others at his position. I am assuming I might have over-paid just a bit to move up to add Dorsey at 3.03 (saw him going in the 3.06-3.09 range), but for how dominant I think he can become at his position (and looking for ways to improve my overall starting line-up and FPs per week), I saw Dorsey as worth the price. There were at LEAST 7-8 players drafted in the previous 34 picks that I had rated lower than Dorsey on my board too...so either I'm completely
in my evaluation of players, or I just got myself a 8-10+ year starter and Top 5-7 player at his position.
Had to trade back into the 2008 draft by sending my #1 in 2009 and CB Chris Houston for Smith's #2 in 2009, the 3.03 (Dorsey) and WR Aundrae Allison. I just couldn't stand to see Dorsey fall any further than 3.03. He's "just" a DT...but he's going to be special and one of the very-best DTs in the NFL in very short order, and should post some nice tackles and sacks figures compared to others at his position. I am assuming I might have over-paid just a bit to move up to add Dorsey at 3.03 (saw him going in the 3.06-3.09 range), but for how dominant I think he can become at his position (and looking for ways to improve my overall starting line-up and FPs per week), I saw Dorsey as worth the price. There were at LEAST 7-8 players drafted in the previous 34 picks that I had rated lower than Dorsey on my board too...so either I'm completely
in my evaluation of players, or I just got myself a 8-10+ year starter and Top 5-7 player at his position.
redman
Footballguy
I'm not a big fan of drafting DT's in rookie drafts, but it's clear that if you're going to do it, you do it on a guy like this. This is a good value pick in a league that requires you to start at least one DT, and that rewards you heavily for big plays - especially sacks - from that spot.3.03 DT Glenn Dorsey, ChiefsHad to trade back into the 2008 draft by sending my #1 in 2009 and CB Chris Houston for Smith's #2 in 2009, the 3.03 (Dorsey) and WR Aundrae Allison. I just couldn't stand to see Dorsey fall any further than 3.03. He's "just" a DT...but he's going to be special and one of the very-best DTs in the NFL in very short order, and should post some nice tackles and sacks figures compared to others at his position. I am assuming I might have over-paid just a bit to move up to add Dorsey at 3.03 (saw him going in the 3.06-3.09 range), but for how dominant I think he can become at his position (and looking for ways to improve my overall starting line-up and FPs per week), I saw Dorsey as worth the price. There were at LEAST 7-8 players drafted in the previous 34 picks that I had rated lower than Dorsey on my board too...so either I'm completely
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Footballguy
Your 1st round pick in 2009 for a 2nd round pick in 2009 and pick 3.03 in 2008 which you used on a DT?3.03 DT Glenn Dorsey, ChiefsHad to trade back into the 2008 draft by sending my #1 in 2009 and CB Chris Houston for Smith's #2 in 2009, the 3.03 (Dorsey) and WR Aundrae Allison. I just couldn't stand to see Dorsey fall any further than 3.03. He's "just" a DT...but he's going to be special and one of the very-best DTs in the NFL in very short order, and should post some nice tackles and sacks figures compared to others at his position. I am assuming I might have over-paid just a bit to move up to add Dorsey at 3.03 (saw him going in the 3.06-3.09 range), but for how dominant I think he can become at his position (and looking for ways to improve my overall starting line-up and FPs per week), I saw Dorsey as worth the price. There were at LEAST 7-8 players drafted in the previous 34 picks that I had rated lower than Dorsey on my board too...so either I'm completelyin my evaluation of players, or I just got myself a 8-10+ year starter and Top 5-7 player at his position.
Sorry but I think you hosed yourself on that deal even if your 1st round pick ends up being 1.16
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I took this team over in February when the previous owner left the league. The team won ONE game last year...and I really don't know how it even did that. This team was devoid of talent. So it's a full blown rebuild. At the time I took over, the only players that had serious value were Cutler, McGahee, Chad Johnson, Greg Olsen, and Patrick Willis. 15-20 players were barely rosterable. I did have 5 first round picks to start with. Obviously, I have my work cut out for me in a league of this caliber.
I made a few deals before the draft. These are the significant ones:
Trade #1:
I traded: RB Willis McGahee, 2008 pick 1.10, 2008 pick 1.12
Faletti traded: RB Brandon Jacobs, WR Dwayne Bowe, LB Thomas Howard
I was elated to get a young WR like Bowe, although I took a fairly steep hit at RB. I didn't mind moving the picks since I got 3 proven players in the deal. I was very happy with the result of this trade, as I added some badly needed young talent.
Trade #2:
I traded: WR Chad Johnson, LB Patrick Willis, 2008 picks 1.07, 2.07, 4.11, 5.15
Bachman traded: WR Larry Fitzgerald, DE Mario Williams, LB Adalius Thomas, 2008 picks 2.14, 4.01
This was a deal that took a lot of time to finalize. Bachman really wanted Willis and that is how this trade started. It ended with me trading quite a bit to land Fitzgerald. While I think Chad is an elite WR, he is 30 years old. That isn't old now, but this team is not good and by the time it is, Chad will not have a lot of trade value, so I decided to look two years from now and like my end of the deal. Willis was very tough to part with. Elite LBs are not easy to find, but I think elite DEs like Mario Williams are even harder to find. Basically, it cost me the difference between Willis/1.07 and Mario to go from Chad to Fitz. Looking long-term, this deal made sense for me.
After two deals, I have two stud WRs under 25 years old.
Trade #3:
I traded: LB Thomas Howard, S Ken Hamlin, 2008 pick 4.01
Rodrigues traded: LB Anthony Waters, 2008 pick 1.15
EDIT: Trade 3 was with Bachman.
This was basically Howard for the 1.15, with some pieces added. I wanted to get into the first round to add some offensive talent. I can get a LB2 type like Howard once my team is better, and I felt the pick was more valuable to my rebuild.
So as I enter the draft, I have the 1.01, 1.05, 1.15, 2.14 and 3.07 to work with. I have Cutler at QB, Jacobs at RB, Fitz and Bowe at WR, Olsen at TE, and Mario Williams at DE. That is the core that I will build around.
The draft picks will follow in a later post. I just wanted to update the major trades I made since I took the team over.
I made a few deals before the draft. These are the significant ones:
Trade #1:
I traded: RB Willis McGahee, 2008 pick 1.10, 2008 pick 1.12
Faletti traded: RB Brandon Jacobs, WR Dwayne Bowe, LB Thomas Howard
I was elated to get a young WR like Bowe, although I took a fairly steep hit at RB. I didn't mind moving the picks since I got 3 proven players in the deal. I was very happy with the result of this trade, as I added some badly needed young talent.
Trade #2:
I traded: WR Chad Johnson, LB Patrick Willis, 2008 picks 1.07, 2.07, 4.11, 5.15
Bachman traded: WR Larry Fitzgerald, DE Mario Williams, LB Adalius Thomas, 2008 picks 2.14, 4.01
This was a deal that took a lot of time to finalize. Bachman really wanted Willis and that is how this trade started. It ended with me trading quite a bit to land Fitzgerald. While I think Chad is an elite WR, he is 30 years old. That isn't old now, but this team is not good and by the time it is, Chad will not have a lot of trade value, so I decided to look two years from now and like my end of the deal. Willis was very tough to part with. Elite LBs are not easy to find, but I think elite DEs like Mario Williams are even harder to find. Basically, it cost me the difference between Willis/1.07 and Mario to go from Chad to Fitz. Looking long-term, this deal made sense for me.
After two deals, I have two stud WRs under 25 years old.
Trade #3:
I traded: LB Thomas Howard, S Ken Hamlin, 2008 pick 4.01
Rodrigues traded: LB Anthony Waters, 2008 pick 1.15
EDIT: Trade 3 was with Bachman.
This was basically Howard for the 1.15, with some pieces added. I wanted to get into the first round to add some offensive talent. I can get a LB2 type like Howard once my team is better, and I felt the pick was more valuable to my rebuild.
So as I enter the draft, I have the 1.01, 1.05, 1.15, 2.14 and 3.07 to work with. I have Cutler at QB, Jacobs at RB, Fitz and Bowe at WR, Olsen at TE, and Mario Williams at DE. That is the core that I will build around.
The draft picks will follow in a later post. I just wanted to update the major trades I made since I took the team over.
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Trade #3 was also with Bachman
That's what makes FFL fun this time of year. We're both right, and we're both wrong...until around December 2010.Your 1st round pick in 2009 for a 2nd round pick in 2009 and pick 3.03 in 2008 which you used on a DT?
I normally wouldn't have made a move like that either, but:1. Our scoring system heavily rewards big plays such as sacks for D-Lineman, and2. Dorsey is no "ordinary" DT. He was the best player in the 2008 NFL Draft, IMHO, and has freakishly good athleticism and skills which will have him putting up very un-DT-like numbers.But yeah, I expected at LEAST a little abuse for making the move to get Dorsey. Heck, moving up for a DT (or even DRAFTING a DT) goes against about 80-90% of how I have played in the past. However, those two items above compelled me to make the move. I don't plan on having my pick be anywhere near the top 8-10 OA next year...and I'm not sure that anyone I could have drafted at "1.10" or "1.12" would have had any more of an impact on my line-up and FPPG more than Dorsey will...and I've got a second rounder to use to boot! Time will tell though, as you could just as easily be right too... 
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Fixed. I can't believe I made that mistake. That Rodrigues guy doesn't like to trade. :XTrade #3 was also with Bachman
Maroney= Speed
Footballguy
Why would u admit that u lost on 2 trades, to the same dude?
Why would u admit that u lost on 2 trades, to the same dude?Trade #3 was also with Bachman
Yea Borbely..........
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Why would u admit that u lost on 2 trades, to the same dude?Trade #3 was also with Bachman
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Ummmm....because I didn't.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Well you sure seem to have yourself talked into this.. but from a pure value evaluation without considering that you drafted a player of low relative value and importance I see your side of this deal to be a loss every time.That's what makes FFL fun this time of year. We're both right, and we're both wrong...until around December 2010.Your 1st round pick in 2009 for a 2nd round pick in 2009 and pick 3.03 in 2008 which you used on a DT?
Biabreakable
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SJax 2 is in no position to talk trash to anyone. Even a n00b.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
redman
Footballguy
I guess I would respond to your take in a couple of ways:1. How does a stud and every-week starter at one position have less value than a RB4-5 or WR5-6 who may or may not ever take the field in a team's line-up?2. I think you are undervaluing the importance of defensive linemen in our league's scoring system...particularly when it comes to sacks, fumbles, tackles, etc.
Code:
Number of Punt Return TDs 1-10 6.00 points eachNumber of Kickoff Return TDs 1-10 6.00 points eachLength of Defensive Fumble Recovery TD 0-49 6.00Length of Defensive Fumble Recovery TD 50-110 8.00**Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 1-99 3.00 points each**Opponent Fumble Recovery Yards 1-999 0.05 points each**Forced Fumbles 1-99 3.00 points each**Length of Interception Return TD 0-49 6.00Length of Interception Return TD 50-110 8.00Interceptions Caught 1-99 5.00 points eachInterception Return Yards 1-999 0.05 points eachPasses Defensed 1-99 2 points eachLength of Blocked Field Goal TD 0-110 6.0Blocked Field Goals 1-99 2.00 points eachLength of Blocked Punt TD 0-110 6.00Blocked Punts 1-99 2.00 points eachBlocked Extra Points 1-99 2.00 points each**Tackles 1-99 2.5 points each****Assists 1-99 1.00 point each****Sacked a QB 0.5-20 3 point for every 0.5****Sacked a QB Yardage 1.0-100.0 0.10 points each**Safeties 1-99 6.00 points each
It's all just theory and conjecture though until we see how some of these players do on the field...
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
I don't even like talking about trading!Fixed. I can't believe I made that mistake. That Rodrigues guy doesn't like to trade.Trade #3 was also with Bachman
Warpig
Footballguy
My team sucked last year...suck is an understatement really.
Maroney hosed me all year. Not to mention none of my WR's panning out other than Roddy White and my TE missed like half the season (Heap).
So, I was more than willing to dump maroney off on Connie* for his 1.13 and 1.16 pick and Alge Crumpler. Along with my 1.4 pick I turned those 3 picks into:
1.4 - Matt Forte (I need someone that can start producing A.S.A.P at RB. I was glad to take him here. I've also had man love for him since the Senior bowl)
1.13 - Limas Sweed (I needed WR help and Sweed will start off the season no worse than 3rd on the depth chart. Hines Ward is always getting injured lately. I was hoping Devin Thomas would fall to me here but I'm happy with either)
1.16 - Jerod Mayo (Another guy that should contribute right away. I trust Belichek to make players out of guys and Belichek thought highly enough of him to take him with the 10th pick overall.)
I didn't have any more picks until the 4th round until Connie* traded me his 2.9, 4.1, 4.15, 5.14, and 2009 3rd for my 2009 1st. I figured as bad as my team was I needed the plethora of picks instead of my 2009 1st.
So I took that 2.9 pick and turned it into Flacco to sit behind Brees.
And now I sit with 5 picks in the 4th round with plenty of talent on the board.
1.4 - Forte
1.13 - Sweed
1.16 - Mayo
2.9 - Flacco
4.1 - Phillip Wheeler
4.4 - Tyrell Johnson
4.6 - Sedrick Ellis
4.15 - Jermichael Finley
4.16 - Shawn Crable
5.14 - ?
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Maroney hosed me all year. Not to mention none of my WR's panning out other than Roddy White and my TE missed like half the season (Heap).
So, I was more than willing to dump maroney off on Connie* for his 1.13 and 1.16 pick and Alge Crumpler. Along with my 1.4 pick I turned those 3 picks into:
1.4 - Matt Forte (I need someone that can start producing A.S.A.P at RB. I was glad to take him here. I've also had man love for him since the Senior bowl)
1.13 - Limas Sweed (I needed WR help and Sweed will start off the season no worse than 3rd on the depth chart. Hines Ward is always getting injured lately. I was hoping Devin Thomas would fall to me here but I'm happy with either)
1.16 - Jerod Mayo (Another guy that should contribute right away. I trust Belichek to make players out of guys and Belichek thought highly enough of him to take him with the 10th pick overall.)
I didn't have any more picks until the 4th round until Connie* traded me his 2.9, 4.1, 4.15, 5.14, and 2009 3rd for my 2009 1st. I figured as bad as my team was I needed the plethora of picks instead of my 2009 1st.
So I took that 2.9 pick and turned it into Flacco to sit behind Brees.
And now I sit with 5 picks in the 4th round with plenty of talent on the board.
1.4 - Forte
1.13 - Sweed
1.16 - Mayo
2.9 - Flacco
4.1 - Phillip Wheeler
4.4 - Tyrell Johnson
4.6 - Sedrick Ellis
4.15 - Jermichael Finley
4.16 - Shawn Crable
5.14 - ?
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Next pick was 2.6I think I may regret this one a tad.Bennett would have been my guy, but I wanted a mid 3rd as I saw a few names I would have like projecting to be there.But I delt it * Connie Rodrigues* gave up Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.06;Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.04 * Anthony Borbely gave up Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.14;Year 2008 Draft Pick 3.07dropped down 9 slots Next pick was 2.9Now feeling I wish I had taken Bennett, I was not SUPER thrilled with anyone here so I figured I would get creative.I made this deal * Connie Rodrigues* gave up Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.09;Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.01;Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.15;Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14; Year 2009 Round 3 Draft Pick from Connie Rodrigues* * Ben Bregitzer gave up Year 2009 Round 1 Draft Pick from Ben BregitzerLosing alot of players there, but I feel I can get fill holes thru the WW.And I just became a big fan of anyone playing Ben for 2008.That leaves me with Ben/Jeff as my 09 1sts.2.14I didn't trade it.Although I tried, but in the end decided I would take a chance on Jerome Simpson.Desean was there but Philly Rookie WR have been THE SUCK!, and see this one as no different.I figure Jerome is a work in progress, but has good talent, a GREAT offense and is behind 2 30year old WR's, and one who can't shut up.Could be a big time play.3.7I was gonna go Torian here, considering he has gone as high 1.7 in some rookie drafts.But, honestly, I think he is more hype than anything else. If my mom got a try out for the DEN RB spot, someone would take her in the 4th RD.So, being our league is VERY TE heavy, I brought in JCarlson.I think he has the tools to be solid, and more so I like the SEA passing attack, and would not be shocked for him to produce early.I am done with my rookie draft, a bit disappointed I didn't address any IDP, but I will look to add more depth there.All in all I leave this draft with1.02 McFadden1.14 Felix2.14 JSimpson3.07 Carlson09 1st Ben Very pleased.
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I hope all those players get herpes and miss every game COME ON #2 overall pick.(I already have #1 overall pick as in Jeff)
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I entered the draft with the 1.01, 1.05, 1.15, 2.14 and 3.07.
1.01 RB Jonathan Stewart: Simply put, I think he is the most talented of the top 3 RBs, is the most likely to be a 300 carry full time RB, and plays for a coach who likes to pound the rock. I will say the top 3 are fairly even.
1.05 RB Kevin Smith: Much as the top 3 are pretty even, so are the tier 2 RBs. I think Smith is every bit as talented as the others in this group and he is more suited to carry the load. The Lions new zone blocking scheme seems tailor made for Smith. He is easily in the best situation of this years class of RB. I see the talent level to be close in this tier, so situation was the tiebreaker for me.
1.15 TE Dustin Keller: First, this league has TE friendly scoring, which is why TEs go early. Keller is the only TE that I like in this draft other than a couple of later round fliers, and I think he is a future top 10 fantasy TE.
My next pick was the 2.14 and I was not planning on trading up considering how many holes this team had. But opportunity knocked and I answered the door. Rodrigues was shopping the 2.06 and there was one player who I thought was wqorth moving up for, so I move up 8 spots from my 2.14 to his 2.06, and it cost me the 3.07.
2.06 WR Earl Bennett: I like Bennett a lot and he may be in the best situation of all WRs in this draft with the possible exception of James Hardy. He was the last WR in the tier that I liked and then I personally see a big dropoff, so I decided to make the move up. an 8 spot move from the 2.14 to the 2.06 was well worth a mid 3rd.
I am not sitting with only the 5.04, but I made one last move, trading LB Calvin Pace for the 3.06. I think Pace will be a solid LB2/3 type, but I decided I'd rather grab another offensive prospect, knowing that I can find LBs like him at a later time when my team will be a contender. My objective in the early stages of a rebuild is to secure some offensive prospects and, if available, elite IDPs.
3.06 WR Andre Caldwell: Much like Bennett, Caldwell was the end of this tier of WRs and I feel his upside was well worth trading Pace.
At this time, my key players are:
QB Jay Cutler
RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Kevin Smith
RB Brandon Jacobs
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Dwayne Bowe
WR Earl Bennett
WR Andre Caldwell
TE Greg Olsen
TE Dustin Keller
DE Mario Williams
The thing I like is all of my key players being 25 and under. I still have a lot of work to do, especially with my IDPs, but I like the improvement in my team since I took it over. Getting Fitz and Bowe was huge for my rebuild.
1.01 RB Jonathan Stewart: Simply put, I think he is the most talented of the top 3 RBs, is the most likely to be a 300 carry full time RB, and plays for a coach who likes to pound the rock. I will say the top 3 are fairly even.
1.05 RB Kevin Smith: Much as the top 3 are pretty even, so are the tier 2 RBs. I think Smith is every bit as talented as the others in this group and he is more suited to carry the load. The Lions new zone blocking scheme seems tailor made for Smith. He is easily in the best situation of this years class of RB. I see the talent level to be close in this tier, so situation was the tiebreaker for me.
1.15 TE Dustin Keller: First, this league has TE friendly scoring, which is why TEs go early. Keller is the only TE that I like in this draft other than a couple of later round fliers, and I think he is a future top 10 fantasy TE.
My next pick was the 2.14 and I was not planning on trading up considering how many holes this team had. But opportunity knocked and I answered the door. Rodrigues was shopping the 2.06 and there was one player who I thought was wqorth moving up for, so I move up 8 spots from my 2.14 to his 2.06, and it cost me the 3.07.
2.06 WR Earl Bennett: I like Bennett a lot and he may be in the best situation of all WRs in this draft with the possible exception of James Hardy. He was the last WR in the tier that I liked and then I personally see a big dropoff, so I decided to make the move up. an 8 spot move from the 2.14 to the 2.06 was well worth a mid 3rd.
I am not sitting with only the 5.04, but I made one last move, trading LB Calvin Pace for the 3.06. I think Pace will be a solid LB2/3 type, but I decided I'd rather grab another offensive prospect, knowing that I can find LBs like him at a later time when my team will be a contender. My objective in the early stages of a rebuild is to secure some offensive prospects and, if available, elite IDPs.
3.06 WR Andre Caldwell: Much like Bennett, Caldwell was the end of this tier of WRs and I feel his upside was well worth trading Pace.
At this time, my key players are:
QB Jay Cutler
RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Kevin Smith
RB Brandon Jacobs
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Dwayne Bowe
WR Earl Bennett
WR Andre Caldwell
TE Greg Olsen
TE Dustin Keller
DE Mario Williams
The thing I like is all of my key players being 25 and under. I still have a lot of work to do, especially with my IDPs, but I like the improvement in my team since I took it over. Getting Fitz and Bowe was huge for my rebuild.
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dirtyhalos
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Warpig said:dirtyhalos said:Warpig said:you going to take any dts?
4.06 54. Ben Bregitzer Ellis, Sedrick NOS DT ® Wed May 7 11:09:14 a.m. ET 2008
Warpig
Footballguy
Without a doubt, this has been the fastest draft, regardless of size, I have ever participated in.
I have another 16 team draft similar to this one coming up on Friday (only difference is it is 7 rounds vice 5) and I can guarantee you it will take a month!
I dread my 32 team draft that is coming up as well.
I have another 16 team draft similar to this one coming up on Friday (only difference is it is 7 rounds vice 5) and I can guarantee you it will take a month!
I dread my 32 team draft that is coming up as well.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I'm in another league similar to this one (as are other owners in this league) and we started the exact same time as this one. We are in round 2.Without a doubt, this has been the fastest draft, regardless of size, I have ever participated in.I have another 16 team draft similar to this one coming up on Friday (only difference is it is 7 rounds vice 5) and I can guarantee you it will take a month!
I dread my 32 team draft that is coming up as well. :X
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Footballguy
I'm in another league similar to this one (as are other owners in this league) and we started the exact same time as this one. We are in round 2.Without a doubt, this has been the fastest draft, regardless of size, I have ever participated in.
Glad I only had 2 1st RD picks here 
Warpig
Footballguy
Final Project:
**WARNING - NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL AUDIENCES. PLEASE PUT THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO BED**
:X :X
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® - 2.09
Simms, Chris TBB QB
Woodson, Andre' NYG QB ® - UDFA
Forte, Matt CHI RB ® - 1.04
Irons, Kenny CIN RB
Rhodes, Dominic FA RB
Taylor, Chester MIN RB
Thomas, Marcus SDC RB ® - UDFA
Williams, Carnell TBB RB
Hilliard, Ike TBB WR
Jenkins, Michael ATL WR
Looker, Dane STL WR
Meachem, Robert NOS WR
Stallworth, Donte' CLE WR
Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® - 1.13
White, Roddy ATL WR
Crumpler, Alge TEN TE
Finley, Jermichael GBP TE ® - 4.15
Franks, Bubba NYJ TE
Heller, Will SEA TE
Peelle, Justin MIA TE
Scobee, Josh JAC PK
Bernard, Robert SEA DT
Ellis, Sedrick NOS DT ® - 4.06
Johnson, Ed IND DT
Denney, Ryan BUF DE
Freeney, Dwight IND DE
Geathers, Robert CIN DE
Jackson, Lawrence SEA DE ® - 5.14
Schobel, Aaron BUF DE
Tuck, Justin NYG DE
Alexander, Eric NEP LB
Crable, Shawn NEP LB ® - 4.16
Davis, Andra CLE LB
Durant, Justin JAC LB
Harris, Napoleon KCC LB
Keiaho, Freddie IND LB
Mayo, Jerod NEP LB ® - 1.16
Morrison, Kirk OAK LB
Thornton, David TEN LB
Tulloch, Stephen TEN LB
Wheeler, Philip IND LB ® - 4.01
Hall, Leon CIN CB
Hayden, Kelvin IND CB
Holly, Daven CLE CB
Jackson, Marlin IND CB
Lucas, Ken CAR CB
Vasher, Nathan CHI CB
Bullocks, Josh NOS S
Coleman, Erik ATL S
Doughty, Reed WAS S
Elam, Abram NYJ S
Johnson, Tyrell MIN S ® - 4.04
Page, Jarrad KCC S
Pool, Brodney CLE S
**WARNING - NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL AUDIENCES. PLEASE PUT THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO BED**
:X :XBrees, Drew NOS QB
Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® - 2.09
Simms, Chris TBB QB
Woodson, Andre' NYG QB ® - UDFA
Forte, Matt CHI RB ® - 1.04
Irons, Kenny CIN RB
Rhodes, Dominic FA RB
Taylor, Chester MIN RB
Thomas, Marcus SDC RB ® - UDFA
Williams, Carnell TBB RB
Hilliard, Ike TBB WR
Jenkins, Michael ATL WR
Looker, Dane STL WR
Meachem, Robert NOS WR
Stallworth, Donte' CLE WR
Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® - 1.13
White, Roddy ATL WR
Crumpler, Alge TEN TE
Finley, Jermichael GBP TE ® - 4.15
Franks, Bubba NYJ TE
Heller, Will SEA TE
Peelle, Justin MIA TE
Scobee, Josh JAC PK
Bernard, Robert SEA DT
Ellis, Sedrick NOS DT ® - 4.06
Johnson, Ed IND DT
Denney, Ryan BUF DE
Freeney, Dwight IND DE
Geathers, Robert CIN DE
Jackson, Lawrence SEA DE ® - 5.14
Schobel, Aaron BUF DE
Tuck, Justin NYG DE
Alexander, Eric NEP LB
Crable, Shawn NEP LB ® - 4.16
Davis, Andra CLE LB
Durant, Justin JAC LB
Harris, Napoleon KCC LB
Keiaho, Freddie IND LB
Mayo, Jerod NEP LB ® - 1.16
Morrison, Kirk OAK LB
Thornton, David TEN LB
Tulloch, Stephen TEN LB
Wheeler, Philip IND LB ® - 4.01
Hall, Leon CIN CB
Hayden, Kelvin IND CB
Holly, Daven CLE CB
Jackson, Marlin IND CB
Lucas, Ken CAR CB
Vasher, Nathan CHI CB
Bullocks, Josh NOS S
Coleman, Erik ATL S
Doughty, Reed WAS S
Elam, Abram NYJ S
Johnson, Tyrell MIN S ® - 4.04
Page, Jarrad KCC S
Pool, Brodney CLE S
Why not, here is my final product also: 2009 Soon to be Champs here:
QB's
Romo
Ryan 1.09
Redman
RB's
SJax1
Addai
Calhoun
Sproles
Dorsey/Keith/Leonard/Pittman/Wynn
Forsett 5.05
Washington UDFA
Choice 3.04
Parmele 4.12
WR's
Wayne
TO
Reggie Brown
Mark Clayton
Mason
Gage
Aromashodu
R.Davis
L.Moore
Royal 3.08
Shields UDFA
Monk 5.06
TE's
O.Daniels
Desmond Clark
Madsen
Hartsock
D.Martin
Putzier
K's
Rackers
DT's
J.Haye
DE's
Mathis
McClover
A.Smith
J.Thomas
LB's
P.Willis
B.Ruud
G.Bracket
M.Peterson
J.Harrison
Demorrio
Woodley
Wilborn
Tinoisamoa
A.Jordan
Blackstock
CB's
Woodson
T.Hill
M.Griffin
S's
Gibril Wilson
Adrian Wison
K.Hamlin
Key pickups this offseason so far: Ryan, SJax, Wayne, TO, J.Haye, P.Willis, Ruud, M.Peterson, Gibril and Adrian.
QB's
Romo
Ryan 1.09
Redman
RB's
SJax1
Addai
Calhoun
Sproles
Dorsey/Keith/Leonard/Pittman/Wynn
Forsett 5.05
Washington UDFA
Choice 3.04
Parmele 4.12
WR's
Wayne
TO
Reggie Brown
Mark Clayton
Mason
Gage
Aromashodu
R.Davis
L.Moore
Royal 3.08
Shields UDFA
Monk 5.06
TE's
O.Daniels
Desmond Clark
Madsen
Hartsock
D.Martin
Putzier
K's
Rackers
DT's
J.Haye
DE's
Mathis
McClover
A.Smith
J.Thomas
LB's
P.Willis
B.Ruud
G.Bracket
M.Peterson
J.Harrison
Demorrio
Woodley
Wilborn
Tinoisamoa
A.Jordan
Blackstock
CB's
Woodson
T.Hill
M.Griffin
S's
Gibril Wilson
Adrian Wison
K.Hamlin
Key pickups this offseason so far: Ryan, SJax, Wayne, TO, J.Haye, P.Willis, Ruud, M.Peterson, Gibril and Adrian.
dirtyhalos
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congrats to bloom for winning reddog championship (rudnicki made a late run at him though)
after 2 years
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after 2 years
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shady rules kept me from winning the title last year.Bloom was a deserving champ this year.Divisional realignment should hopefully help me get back there next year.
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