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Redskins release LB LaVar Arrington (1 Viewer)

headline posted as breaking news on ESPN News right now.
He PAID the Skins $4M to release him.He must have really loved it there.
Could be good or bad for Arrington, hopefully he played his cards right. A freakish talent who's built a rep on what he's supposedly able to do, failing to live up to that talent with another team would make him a fraud (assuming he stays healthy, of course)
 
headline posted as breaking news on ESPN News right now.
He PAID the Skins $4M to release him.He must have really loved it there.
Could be good or bad for Arrington, hopefully he played his cards right. A freakish talent who's built a rep on what he's supposedly able to do, failing to live up to that talent with another team would make him a fraud (assuming he stays healthy, of course)
If he lands with a coaching staff which lets him blitz every down, and allows him to play his style of freelance, undisciplined defense -- assignments be damned -- he'll be fine. :thumbup:

 
Please sign with Dallas, TIA
I guarantee you he'll end up in the NFC East. The man has a grudge he needs to iron out. He'd look great in a Cowboys, Giants or Eagles uniform.
 
Please sign with Dallas, TIA
:ph34r:
With extremely minimal expectations the curiousity of what LTs former coach could do with him is intriguing to me. (BB too) He could just be a 3rd down rush backer for all I care I just wanna see what one of them comes up with.
 
Please sign with Dallas, TIA
I guarantee you he'll end up in the NFC East. The man has a grudge he needs to iron out. He'd look great in a Cowboys, Giants or Eagles uniform.
After TO, I wouldn't be surprised if Reid has the strictest of standards right now. I'm not sure he'd want anyone that could possibly ruffle any feathers.
 
Please sign with Dallas, TIA
I guarantee you he'll end up in the NFC East. The man has a grudge he needs to iron out. He'd look great in a Cowboys, Giants or Eagles uniform.
After TO, I wouldn't be surprised if Reid has the strictest of standards right now. I'm not sure he'd want anyone that could possibly ruffle any feathers.
I'd rank his potential suitors as follows:1) Cowboys

2) Giants

3) Eagles

4) San Francisco

5) Houston

I really can see Julian Peterson in a Giants uniform, so I don't know about the likelihood of him ending up in NY, but judging from the success of Pierce there last year, I wonder how much lobbying he'll do to get Arrington on his team.

Any Redskins homers know about Pierce's relationship with Arrington? Are they buddies?

Plus pairing him with DeMarcus Ware, who is pound for pound a virtual clone of Arrington to me, just seems like such an evil combination that I am not sure he'd be able to resist the Jerry Jones/Bill Parcells lure.

 
headline posted as breaking news on ESPN News right now.
He PAID the Skins $4M to release him.He must have really loved it there.
Could be good or bad for Arrington, hopefully he played his cards right. A freakish talent who's built a rep on what he's supposedly able to do, failing to live up to that talent with another team would make him a fraud (assuming he stays healthy, of course)
If he lands with a coaching staff which lets him blitz every down, and allows him to play his style of freelance, undisciplined defense -- assignments be damned -- he'll be fine. :thumbup:
Welcome to Oakland.
 
Interesting note: The Redskins have had a revolving door of coaches over Arrington's career. That means many of his former coaches are coaching elsewhere in the NFL:

Marty Schottenheimer - SD

Marvin Lewis - Cincy

Ray Rhodes - Seattle

Kurt Schottenheimer - ???

There are certainly other LB coaches not listed and the 2002 DC.

The strongest reference a person can get is with former employers and co-workers. I will find it interesting if none of his former coaches try to sign him.

 
Lavar HATES the Cowboys, why would he go there?
1. He hates Dan Snyder more.2. Gets to play the 'skins twice a year.

3. :moneybag: :moneybag: :moneybag:
I get the feeling that he and Parcells wouldn't last more than 2 practice sessions together. Hopefully he just cuts through all the B.S. and signs with Oakland. That is where he belongs.
 
Am I the only person that finds this very strange. It just doesn't make much sense to me for Lavar to pay 4MM to get out, unless Snyder is greasing the wheels under the table for cap relief. I don't know all the specifics of Lavar's contract - what was he due to get paid this year from the skins? Does he really think he can make that plus his 4 million with another team in 2006?

 
Am I the only person that finds this very strange.  It just doesn't make much sense to me for Lavar to pay 4MM to get out, unless Snyder is greasing the wheels under the table for cap relief.  I don't know all the specifics of Lavar's contract - what was he due to get paid this year from the skins?  Does he really think he can make that plus his 4 million with another team in 2006?
Check out PFT. Once again, salary cap related articles like these, PFT is very accurate.Basically, Arrington is paying $4M to be released now rather than in July, when there will be much fewer FA dollars available. He will probably get the $4M back.

By the way, nothing under the table here. The Redskins get $3M in cap relief rather than a $1M cap charge for releasing Arrington.

POSTED 12:26 a.m. EST, March 6, 2006

ARRINGTON BUYS HIS FREEDOM

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington has ponied up more than $4 million in cash to the team in order to secure his freedom.

The move most likely enables the team to save money under the cap as a result of his departure.  Previously, keeping or cutting Arrington would have resulted in an eight-figure cap hit, with the hit $100,000 or so higher if he had gotten cut.

The agreement ends a relationship that had grown rocky over the past two-plus years.  Weeks after signing a big-money extension in December 2003, Arrington's agents claimed that the team had hoodwinked LaVar by removing from the final version of the paperwork a $6.5 million roster bonus due in July 2006.  His agents, Carl and Kevin Poston, admitted that they didn't read the final version of the deal before signing it.

They're now dealing with a disciplinary action filed against them by the NFLPA.

The allegation of fraudulent conduct on the part of the team was odd in light of the fact that the Redskins already had promised in the deal to pay him a $6.5 million roster bonus in July 2006.  The Postons essentially were claiming that a second roster bonus of that same magnitude should have been included, which would have pushed his cap number for this season toward a ridiculous $19 million, which translates to more than 20 percent of the team's entire spending limit under the current CBA.

A grievance was filed and Arrington ultimately agreed to a face-saving settlement that, as a practical matter, didn't give him much of anything in return.  Dogged by a knee injury for much of 2004, he then was in the doghouse during the early stages of the 2005 season, possibly due to the lingering ill will engendered by the contract dispute.  Though he ultimately redeemed himself on the field, Arrington drew the ire of coach Joe Gibbs by musing about his long-term status with the team as the 'Skins prepared to play the Eagles in a game that was crucial to Washington's playoff hopes.

Arrington suggested at one point during the 2005 season that he might retire from the game if the 'Skins don't want him back.  By coughing up $4 million in money already paid, it's obvious that Arrington still wants to play somewhere.

Although the Redskins surely would have cut Arrington before his $6.5 million roster bonus came due, paying the money to get out now gives him a chance to hit the market in the early days of free agency, when the money tends to flow a little more freely.  If, however, his agents had made the roster bonus due in March, Arrington would have gotten out without having to pay a dime.

At a time when tampering is more rampant than ever in the NFL, our guess is that Arrington already has an agreement in principle with a new team, and that the deal more than compensates him for the $4 million that he paid back to the Redskins.  With the union already up the Postons' butts, the last thing they need to be doing is advising him to pay the $4 million back without having a damn good idea what he'd get somewhere else.

Our own money is on the Vikings and the Browns as his next destination, with the Steelers as an outside possibility.
 
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Am I the only person that finds this very strange. It just doesn't make much sense to me for Lavar to pay 4MM to get out, unless Snyder is greasing the wheels under the table for cap relief. I don't know all the specifics of Lavar's contract - what was he due to get paid this year from the skins? Does he really think he can make that plus his 4 million with another team in 2006?
Arrington wasnt going to get his release from the Skins until June 1st, which is in 3 months and at what point most or all of the FA money around the league will have dried up. Arrington paid the $4mil so he could be released NOW and get a shot at some of the money before his future club spends it.
 
You have to credit Arrington for having confidence. Not many guys would actually pay millions to be a free agent. I'm sure some team will give him a big deal, convinced he can work in their system.

 
Please sign with Dallas, TIA
I guarantee you he'll end up in the NFC East. The man has a grudge he needs to iron out. He'd look great in a Cowboys, Giants or Eagles uniform.
That would be my thinking too. Whereever he ends up, he's going to have a monster year just to "prove" his critics in Washington wrong. Remember also that he hasn't played a full season of football since 2003 due primarily to injuries, so he also has his durability to prove too.

After that, I expect for his career to tail off into retirement as he will ultimately continue to be the same undisciplined, implusive player with dazzling talent but prone to mistakes in judgment that he was in Washington.

 
Interesting note: The Redskins have had a revolving door of coaches over Arrington's career. That means many of his former coaches are coaching elsewhere in the NFL:

Marty Schottenheimer - SD

Marvin Lewis - Cincy

Ray Rhodes - Seattle

Kurt Schottenheimer - ???

There are certainly other LB coaches not listed and the 2002 DC.

The strongest reference a person can get is with former employers and co-workers. I will find it interesting if none of his former coaches try to sign him.
IMHO his most successful season as a LB was under Marty. It doesn't show in his stats, but what Marty and Kurt did was essentially design the entire defense to funnel the ball his way so that he would be free to read and react, which is how he likes to play. The result was great for him. I could easily see Marty going for him. Rhodes only had him early in his career, and Lewis has already said publicly that Arrington was one of the least disciplined players he's ever been around.

 
I really can see Julian Peterson in a Giants uniform, so I don't know about the likelihood of him ending up in NY, but judging from the success of Pierce there last year, I wonder how much lobbying he'll do to get Arrington on his team.

Any Redskins homers know about Pierce's relationship with Arrington? Are they buddies?
Pierce commented last year that Arrington was undisciplined and didn't work hard to learn the defense when he was in Washington. I have a hard time imagining that he'd lobby hard for Lavar to come to NY.
 
Interesting note: The Redskins have had a revolving door of coaches over Arrington's career. That means many of his former coaches are coaching elsewhere in the NFL:

Marty Schottenheimer - SD

Marvin Lewis - Cincy

Ray Rhodes - Seattle

Kurt Schottenheimer - ???

There are certainly other LB coaches not listed and the 2002 DC.

The strongest reference a person can get is with former employers and co-workers. I will find it interesting if none of his former coaches try to sign him.
IMHO his most successful season as a LB was under Marty. It doesn't show in his stats, but what Marty and Kurt did was essentially design the entire defense to funnel the ball his way so that he would be free to read and react, which is how he likes to play. The result was great for him. I could easily see Marty going for him. Rhodes only had him early in his career, and Lewis has already said publicly that Arrington was one of the least disciplined players he's ever been around.
Another connection to the Chargers is that Merriman works out with Arrington in the off-season (played HS bball with his brother) and those guys would probably love to play together. My concerns with Arrington are his free-lancing style and his pass coverage, but I wouldn't mind seeing it happen for the right price.
 
I'd like to see Lavar in a 3-4 defense as the weak side edge rusher. The 4-3 has him in coverage too much.
I think the biggest misconception of LA in the NFL is that he is a good pass rusher. He isn't. He's never impressed me in a one-on-one situation against a tackle. Most of his pressure comes up the middle on blitzes when he goes unblocked. He then uses that great opportunity to leave his feet and miss the sack.
 
Marvin Lewis openly feuded with Lavar, and openly questioned whether Arrington hurt the defense more often than he helped it. I don't see the Bengals as being an option whatsoever.

 
So who takes his LB spot in Washington?
Lemar Marshall will move to WLB and 'Skins will get another MLB. There is an outside chance C. Clemons could fill his spot though.Say what you want, but I think it's sad that it came to him having to leave. Hope he blows it up somewhere else and makes the powers to be at Redskin Park scratch their heads for yrs to come. :wall:

 
If he lands with a coaching staff which lets him blitz every down, and allows him to play his style of freelance, undisciplined defense -- assignments be damned -- he'll be fine.

:thumbup:
Add to that needing plenty of access to, and love from, local media. He won't sign with the Bengals since Marvin Lewis can't stand him. It doesn't sound like Antonio Pierce has too high an opinion of him either, and the Giants would have to pay some attention to what Pierce knows, since he's quite a knowledgeable player.

The Redskins let him go because he was too much of a freelancer, put himself ahead of the team both on the field and in the media, and because of their lingering feeling that he will never regain his physical abilities that once would have allowed him to be an elite LB.

It's a good parting of the ways for the team and Arrington. He needs a new start. If there's a new CBA he'll get some big bucks. I'm happy to see him go, but wish him well. He's a decent man.

The Redskins will have to sign an OLB to replace him, or a MLB and switch Marshall to the outside. Warrick Holdman is not very good at OLB.

 
He grew up a Steelers fan...but I doubt they would give him enough money to go back to Western PA.

I'm very sad about this move. I've met Arrington several times and was as genuine as they come.

He has never had the opportunity to play for a DC for back to back years. Every year, he had a new DC...and every year that DC changed his role on the team. His best season was under Marty's brother, Kurt. He blitzed every down and led all LBs in sacks that year with 11.

dgreen was correct. Lavar doesn't do well with his hand in the dirt. He typically gets manhandled by Tackles.

BTW - I don't believe Lavar to be the revengeful type. I dont' think an offer in the NFC East would be any more appealing to him than any other offer.

 
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Interesting note: The Redskins have had a revolving door of coaches over Arrington's career. That means many of his former coaches are coaching elsewhere in the NFL:

Marty Schottenheimer - SD

Marvin Lewis - Cincy

Ray Rhodes - Seattle

Kurt Schottenheimer - ???

There are certainly other LB coaches not listed and the 2002 DC.

The strongest reference a person can get is with former employers and co-workers. I will find it interesting if none of his former coaches try to sign him.
IMHO his most successful season as a LB was under Marty. It doesn't show in his stats, but what Marty and Kurt did was essentially design the entire defense to funnel the ball his way so that he would be free to read and react, which is how he likes to play. The result was great for him. I could easily see Marty going for him. Rhodes only had him early in his career, and Lewis has already said publicly that Arrington was one of the least disciplined players he's ever been around.
Another connection to the Chargers is that Merriman works out with Arrington in the off-season (played HS bball with his brother) and those guys would probably love to play together. My concerns with Arrington are his free-lancing style and his pass coverage, but I wouldn't mind seeing it happen for the right price.
If Lavar is going somewhere with a connection, Marty in SD makes the most sense.Marty and Lavar have always had a great relationship. Marty has been very complimentary of Lavar, even in SD.

 
So who takes his LB spot in Washington?
Lemar Marshall will move to WLB and 'Skins will get another MLB. There is an outside chance C. Clemons could fill his spot though.
Barring a FA signing, wouldn't Holdman have a good shot (better than Clemons) at the starting WLB? He did start there for the first half of the season.Also, Robert McCune was considered a promising late round draft pick last year. The potential is there for him to move into the starting lineup.

 
what about the raiders... davis collects elite athletes & former high picks that have become renegades & outcasts like other people collect commemorative pins... and they need the help on defense... not sure if they have the cap space to absorb such a move, though...

arrington & kirk morrison would comprise the nucleus of a nice LB corp...

before losing draft pick to SF, it looked like they had a shot at super mario or hawk... now those guys could be gone at 7, where there is a dropoff in defensive talent (huff could help their badly depleted secondary?)... this would free up the pick to get potential franchise QBs young (which they might be doing anyway... but he could easily be gone already depending on his pro day) or cutler... or grab stud TE vernmon davis, who can attack the seams, & defenses will have to pick their poison between moss, porter & davis... that ought to give AFC west DCs headaches... there are some decent FA QB options...

if SF does take davis, which is a possibility, & assuming GB grabs elite DE prospect williams, raiders could take hawk... with arrington & morrison, their LB group could be transformed almost overnight...

 
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What about the Brownies, lots of cap room, just moved to a 3-4 alignment last year and a team that needs an impact player on defense. IMHO could work real well with Romeo

 
So who takes his LB spot in Washington?
Lemar Marshall will move to WLB and 'Skins will get another MLB. There is an outside chance C. Clemons could fill his spot though.
Barring a FA signing, wouldn't Holdman have a good shot (better than Clemons) at the starting WLB? He did start there for the first half of the season.Also, Robert McCune was considered a promising late round draft pick last year. The potential is there for him to move into the starting lineup.
Lemar Marshall is a good player who works hard, but he's just not a playmaker. He's merely adequate/competent at MLB. He's probably going to go back to his more natural WLB position. Without checking, McCune was active in more games as a special teamer than he was inactive. I think the team likes him. They also have Khary Campbell to consider at MLB.

 
Someone explain to me why Arrington wouldn't just sit on his but with the redskins for 12 million this year and 13 million next year

Explain it to me like I am 8

 
Someone explain to me why Arrington wouldn't just sit on his but with the redskins for 12 million this year and 13 million next year

Explain it to me like I am 8
Because he wants to play. He was a Pro Bowl player until 2004 when he injured his knee, and he's not played at that level for the last two seasons. He has ego and pride and he wants to show what he can do. I'm sure he intends to go to the HoF one day. You can't do that sitting on the bench.
 
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Someone explain to me why Arrington wouldn't just sit on his but with the redskins for 12 million this year and 13 million next year

Explain it to me like I am 8
Because he wants to play. He was a Pro Bowl player until 2004 when he injured his knee, and he's not played at that level for the last two seasons. He has ego and pride and he wants to show what he can do. I'm sure he intends to go to the HoF one day. You can't do that sitting on the bench.
:goodposting: I don't question the Skins for letting him go or people for saying that he is undisciplined. But he is a good guy and very talented. I would think he could make an impact somewhere.

 
Someone explain to me why Arrington wouldn't just sit on his but with the redskins for 12 million this year and 13 million next year

Explain it to me like I am 8
Huh? Why would the Redskins pay him $12 million this year to sit on his butt?Contracts are not guaranteed -- Lavar won't make a dime this year unless he ends up on some team's roster during the season.

 

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