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Restaurants have gotten so expensive……also recycling and phone apps (1 Viewer)

Took my daughter to this little diner for breakfast a couple towns over a couple of weeks ago. I had gone there years ago.

3 bacon
2 scrambled eggs
Healthy helping of hash browns
Toast

$7.95.

We each had a coke, so that was $2.00 extra. So $9.95 each for a damn nice breakfast. So about $21.00 plus tip after tax. Booyah.

I tipped the kid $20 cause it was slow on one of those bitter cold days. Awesome meal.

Had a good diner breakfast for lunch the other day, kind of place that looks like it hasn’t been remodeled since they opened 50 years ago

3 eggs, bacon, ham, sausage, hash browns and toast think it was like 12 bucks. best breakfast I’ve had in awhile
Wife and I go to Leo's most Sundays after Church. $9.99 for 3 eggs, bacon, sausage, ham, hashed browns, toast. Decent price for a lot of food.

Leo’s is always solid, not sure if you’ve ever been to The Hut in Redford, that’s where I went the other day

Leo’s has pretty good cod too
 
I like tots, assuming they’re hot and greasy and salty. Oven tots just aren’t the same

agreed - BUT, with a little effort you can make them a lot better at home

* toss them in some warm bacon grease prior to going in the oven

* bake on convect 450 degrees and toss half way through - about 7-8 minutes should be the halfway point ...depends on how crunchy you like them

* about half the time we toss them in a little truffle oil and parm in a big bowl when we pull them out of the oven
 
I go out from time to time with suppliers who typically take me to some nice places. Last week we were in Chicago for a trade show and went to Chicago Chop House for dinner. He was already one in at the bar when I got there, he ordered another, I had a double. Bar bill came to $105 before we sat down for 3 drinks. One app, two very nice steaks, 3 sides, 2 more drinks each (no wine just bourbon) and the dinner bill was $571 before tip. I though that was a bit stupid.
Price aside, how was the steak? I went there in like 2008 or around then with my now wife for our first date. I remember the food being great, but the crowd just skewed a lot older.
I ate at the Palm, Shulu's and the Chop House so had a pretty solid base to judge, Chop House was hands down the best. It was what I expected for the money paid. The other two charged similarly but at the Palm, while good, just wasn't 'that' good. Shulu's was an absolute ****show. We got seated a half hour late with a reservation, the waiter came over as soon as we were seated and announced he needed an extra 5 minutes because they were short staffed and he was waiting two other large tables solo. We sat down at 7:30, didn't finish up until after 10. Sides were fine but the steak was ****. Ordered medium and it was closer to well.

Shulas was in Portland for about as long as Mike lasted in Alabama. I went once with Goldman Sach's on their dime, back when prime brokers could spoil clients. I'm glad I didn't pay for it. Was not impressed. The waiter spent a good portion of the evening trashing every other steakhouse in the city. That was BEFORE serving up the most expensive meh steak I've ever had.
Have you gone to a a McMenamins lately?

They've always had mediocre food. It's just decent and serviceable, but never great. Their prices are off the charts. $20+ for a burger and fries, $40+ for a large pizza. $21 for fish and chips. I'm never setting foot in one of those again.

This is a real place? sounds like it would have been next door to Chotchkie's in Office Space

Oh, it's real alright and on the surface, you think "Hey man, this is COOL".....hippie art, Dead fans, beers with names like Hammerhead and Terminator, hamburgers with a fried egg on it. They've got concert venues, some spots have hotels, big outdoor gardens at some places, an old elementary school that let you smoke cigars in the Detention Room. There's like 50 of them around the PNW.

But they pool their tips, so if you want to see what socialism looks like in the restaurant industry, go to a McMenamins. They've also perfected the concept of "Shrinkflation" - oh, your chicken sandwich might still only cost $18, but it's like the size of a slider now. And not a good one. If you get excited about tator tots, then I suppose McMenamins could be for you, but you better not have high blood pressure because the only ingredient I can reliably taste is table salt when I eat these.

Family of four isn't getting out of a McMenamins for less than $100 and immediate regret.

Oven tots just aren’t the same
They’re not too bad, but have to be almost over baked until crispy
 
I like tots, assuming they’re hot and greasy and salty. Oven tots just aren’t the same

agreed - BUT, with a little effort you can make them a lot better at home

* toss them in some duck fat prior to going in the oven

* bake on convect 450 degrees and toss half way through - about 7-8 minutes should be the halfway point ...depends on how crunchy you like them

* about half the time we toss them in a little truffle oil and parm in a big bowl when we pull them out of the oven
 
Took my daughter to this little diner for breakfast a couple towns over a couple of weeks ago. I had gone there years ago.

3 bacon
2 scrambled eggs
Healthy helping of hash browns
Toast

$7.95.

We each had a coke, so that was $2.00 extra. So $9.95 each for a damn nice breakfast. So about $21.00 plus tip after tax. Booyah.

I tipped the kid $20 cause it was slow on one of those bitter cold days. Awesome meal.
Any NJ diner and a hearty breakfast can be had minus coffee now. Coffee markup is crazy.

But 3 eggs, meat, potato, toast is 7-9 bucks
 
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I go out from time to time with suppliers who typically take me to some nice places. Last week we were in Chicago for a trade show and went to Chicago Chop House for dinner. He was already one in at the bar when I got there, he ordered another, I had a double. Bar bill came to $105 before we sat down for 3 drinks. One app, two very nice steaks, 3 sides, 2 more drinks each (no wine just bourbon) and the dinner bill was $571 before tip. I though that was a bit stupid.
Price aside, how was the steak? I went there in like 2008 or around then with my now wife for our first date. I remember the food being great, but the crowd just skewed a lot older.
I ate at the Palm, Shulu's and the Chop House so had a pretty solid base to judge, Chop House was hands down the best. It was what I expected for the money paid. The other two charged similarly but at the Palm, while good, just wasn't 'that' good. Shulu's was an absolute ****show. We got seated a half hour late with a reservation, the waiter came over as soon as we were seated and announced he needed an extra 5 minutes because they were short staffed and he was waiting two other large tables solo. We sat down at 7:30, didn't finish up until after 10. Sides were fine but the steak was ****. Ordered medium and it was closer to well.
Good to know about Chop House. Not sure if I'll even make it back there again, but maybe... And crazy about Shula's!
 
I like tots, assuming they’re hot and greasy and salty. Oven tots just aren’t the same

agreed - BUT, with a little effort you can make them a lot better at home

* toss them in some duck fat prior to going in the oven

* bake on convect 450 degrees and toss half way through - about 7-8 minutes should be the halfway point ...depends on how crunchy you like them

* about half the time we toss them in a little truffle oil and parm in a big bowl when we pull them out of the oven

agree, but that **** is expensive ...
 
At one of the chain burger joints around us (the one I mentioned upthread with no staff or hiding-out staff) ... in late 2019, they charged $7.40-something (after tax) for my son's regular order (two 6-piece nuggets and a medium fry). That same order recently was just under $11 -- $10.90-something.

Cane's Chicken Fingers ... their price for a Caniac combo (six fingers + fixings & drink) was ~$11 + tax in the mid-2010s. In summer 2022, it was $15.79 and I believe it's north of $16 today. I'm tempted to pass by and take a picture of the drive-thru menu to see.
Posted this last July — still holds true.
I get their box combo. 4 fingers is enough for me, plus I ditch the cole slaw and they give you extra fries as a result. I typically upgrade to the larger drink since I love their sweet tea. I think I get out of there for under $14, which is probably one of the better values in "fast-ish" food.
They will sub an extra piece of texas toast for the slaw fyi. I think that's the better play than subbing fries.
 
It gets really comical when you add Uber Eats to the equation. Ordered a bacon cheeseburger, sweet potato fries and a shake last night. $35 + Tip from a fast casual burger spot. I was expensing it so less price sensitive but still made me chuckle.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

I don’t mind doing dishes when I cook. I typically unload the dishwasher if dirty, clean up an existing dishes, and generally clean as I go

I hate doing dishes when my wife cooks. She doesn’t rinse anything, leaves the sink full of any packaging, vegetable peels, etc. it basically looks like the garbage compactor scene from Star Wars when she’s done
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.
Good luck with that
 
We went to this very dive restaurant the other night. Awesome seafood. All you can eat shrimp for 35- which is up from 22ish pre-Covid. It’s a lot of food though and very good so I’m fine with it.

I did go to McDonald’s for 3 breakfast sandwiches and 4 hash browns the other day and that was alarmingly 28 dollars.
 
Anybody not ordering fast food through their apps is doing it wrong. McD's has great deals on there, usually a BOGO of some sort, and Wendy's has free/$1 fries or the like, plus rewards you can use. Just do multiple orders to take advantage of multiple offers.
Subway too. Buy a foot long, get one free. Their premium meat sub isn't bad
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.
People are paying for more than just the food and some people are missing out on that part.
 
At one of the chain burger joints around us (the one I mentioned upthread with no staff or hiding-out staff) ... in late 2019, they charged $7.40-something (after tax) for my son's regular order (two 6-piece nuggets and a medium fry). That same order recently was just under $11 -- $10.90-something.

Cane's Chicken Fingers ... their price for a Caniac combo (six fingers + fixings & drink) was ~$11 + tax in the mid-2010s. In summer 2022, it was $15.79 and I believe it's north of $16 today. I'm tempted to pass by and take a picture of the drive-thru menu to see.
Posted this last July — still holds true.
I get their box combo. 4 fingers is enough for me, plus I ditch the cole slaw and they give you extra fries as a result. I typically upgrade to the larger drink since I love their sweet tea. I think I get out of there for under $14, which is probably one of the better values in "fast-ish" food.
They will sub an extra piece of texas toast for the slaw fyi. I think that's the better play than subbing fries.
Ooh, I suppose they would huh. I will try that next time as I do like that toast, and don't necessarily need THAT many fries. Good call.
Anybody not ordering fast food through their apps is doing it wrong. McD's has great deals on there, usually a BOGO of some sort, and Wendy's has free/$1 fries or the like, plus rewards you can use. Just do multiple orders to take advantage of multiple offers.
I don't order through the MickeyD's app but I do use it for rewards. I've somehow amassed like 20k+ points throughout the course of getting my kids dinner there a couple times a month and my own lunches there maybe 1-2 times a month. I haven't paid for chicken nuggets in almost a year. I order the Quarter Pounder combo which ends up being $14 but since the nuggies are free I don't feel like I got jobbed too bad.

Wendy's app isn't quite as generous I've found, but I don't go there quite as much.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me? :oldunsure:
 
McDonald usually has a 20-25% off coupon on the app. That’s what I usually use since we typically don’t need an extra sandwich

Taco Bell app is great too can really customize some stuff, at the drive through I’m I usually like a deer in the headlights because they have so many different combos and I panic order
 
I'm baffled by how many people aren't doing mobile/app orders.

I just cannot get onboard with the outrageous fees - everything I have seen has an upcharge on the food - THEN the delivery charges then tip ...an already overpriced fast food becomes a $35 event ...and likely semi cold.

I don’t think the restaurant specific apps do this, but anything that redirects to DoorDash or some other 3rd party apps do mark it up
 
I'm baffled by how many people aren't doing mobile/app orders.

I just cannot get onboard with the outrageous fees - everything I have seen has an upcharge on the food - THEN the delivery charges then tip ...an already overpriced fast food becomes a $35 event ...and likely semi cold.
We must be talking about different things. Are you talking about Door Dash, Uber Eats, etc? I'm just talking about ordering Wendy's through the Wendy's app.
 
I'm baffled by how many people aren't doing mobile/app orders.

I mean.....does EVERY restaurant offer this or just fast food chains?
I assume just about all the fast casual chains do, too. Not sure if you were lumping them in with the fast food. Additionally, I know some local/non-chain fast casual places that have rewards programs and/or online-only deals.

Gotcha....I have the app for Buffalo Wildwings and it comes in handy a few times a year. Can't think of another fast casual place I eat at with any regularity and I avoid fast food for the most part.*




*McDonald's breakfast sandwiches 2x3 times a year when I need some quick grease to erase the night prior.
 
I'm baffled by how many people aren't doing mobile/app orders.

I mean.....does EVERY restaurant offer this or just fast food chains?
I assume just about all the fast casual chains do, too. Not sure if you were lumping them in with the fast food. Additionally, I know some local/non-chain fast casual places that have rewards programs and/or online-only deals.

Gotcha....I have the app for Buffalo Wildwings and it comes in handy a few times a year. Can't think of another fast casual place I eat at with any regularity and I avoid fast food for the most part.*




*McDonald's breakfast sandwiches 2x3 times a year when I need some quick grease to erase the night prior.
Yeah, these deals probably do lead me to eat way more fast food than I should. I could feed my family for less money by doing 100% fast food/casual app purchases than my wife going to the grocery store. Not saying it's a good idea to do that, but those are the kinds of deals you can get.
 
We went to this very dive restaurant the other night. Awesome seafood. All you can eat shrimp for 35- which is up from 22ish pre-Covid. It’s a lot of food though and very good so I’m fine with it.

I did go to McDonald’s for 3 breakfast sandwiches and 4 hash browns the other day and that was alarmingly 28 dollars.
Wow. That would be about $16 for McDonalds in my area.
 
I did go to McDonald’s for 3 breakfast sandwiches and 4 hash browns the other day and that was alarmingly 28 dollars.

Around here, Mickey D hash browns are $2 a pop last I checked. Could be $2.19, $2.49, or something like that now.

Until maybe 2015-16, the hash browns were commonly promoted at two for a dollar. And I think the non-sale price was still one dollar each.
 
I did go to McDonald’s for 3 breakfast sandwiches and 4 hash browns the other day and that was alarmingly 28 dollars.

Around here, Mickey D hash browns are $2 a pop last I checked. Could be $2.19, $2.49, or something like that now.

Until maybe 2015-16, the hash browns were commonly promoted at two for a dollar. And I think the non-sale price was still one dollar each.
Would you like to round up for the Ronald McDonald House?
 
Would you like to round up for the Ronald McDonald House?
They don't even ask around here. Next to the drive-thru window, there is a kind of a "toll booth" collection basket that is for the Ronald McDonald House. Probably did better before card payments became so common.
 
We went to this very dive restaurant the other night. Awesome seafood. All you can eat shrimp for 35- which is up from 22ish pre-Covid. It’s a lot of food though and very good so I’m fine with it.

I did go to McDonald’s for 3 breakfast sandwiches and 4 hash browns the other day and that was alarmingly 28 dollars.
Wow. That would be about $16 for McDonalds in my area.
Yeah, I don't think the general run of McDonalds breakfast sandwiches is yet above $3.99 a piece in the New Orleans area. Maybe the McGriddles since they're a little more involved.

Our Burger Kings had 2-for-$4 croissandwiches up until about late 2022. That special had been running continuously since at least summer 2016 that I can recall. Now it's 2 for $5, which ain't bad after holding what had to be a loss leader price for that long.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

I don’t mind doing dishes when I cook. I typically unload the dishwasher if dirty, clean up an existing dishes, and generally clean as I go

I hate doing dishes when my wife cooks. She doesn’t rinse anything, leaves the sink full of any packaging, vegetable peels, etc. it basically looks like the garbage compactor scene from Star Wars when she’s done
JUST DON'T LEAVE THE DISHWASHER DOOR OPEN!!!
 
I got McDonald's last week. First time in at least a year. Bacon Egg and Cheese Biscuit. Sausage Egg and Cheese Biscuit. $9.35 no tax here.

I don't know if that's good, bad, high, low but I know this - it did precisely what I needed it to do. Filled me up and absorbed some of the bad decisions I made the night before. :bag:
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwasher
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwaparts.

To each their own. Paper plates are just going to end up in landfills. I'd rather whine about doing dishes than litter the planet with more trash.

And no, this isn't my wife posting.
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwaparts.

To each their own. Paper plates are just going to end up in landfills. I'd rather whine about doing dishes than litter the planet with more trash.

And no, this isn't my wife posting.
Damn tree hugger :) Don’t they burn it?
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwaparts.

To each their own. Paper plates are just going to end up in landfills. I'd rather whine about doing dishes than litter the planet with more trash.

And no, this isn't my wife posting.
We burn paper here 😃
 
We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

:kicksrock:
Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwaparts.

To each their own. Paper plates are just going to end up in landfills. I'd rather whine about doing dishes than litter the planet with more trash.

And no, this isn't my wife posting.
We burn paper here 😃

Yeah, that's part of the problem.
 

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