RIP Ryan Grant (1 Viewer)

[Hybrid]

As a Packers homer, I've watched Grant for years and watched all of Starks' carries last year. Grant is very good at cutting once, finding a lane, and hitting it. He then finishes off his runs by falling for an extra yard just about every time. Starks is very talented but still doesn't see the lanes like Grant does. He often gets to the line and either starts dancing or just runs into the pile.

Starks is the more explosive back but Grant is far more consistent. I'm guessing Grant will get about 60% of the carries if not a little bit more, Starks will get the majority of receptions, and Kuhn stealing TDs.

 

[sho nuff]

He did leave yesterday in an ambulance...xrays negative on the shot he took late in the game (still played after it).

McCarthy just said he has a kidney bruise. That does not sound fun.

 

[cr8f]

Grant still knows how to run behind that line better and has better vision. I am hoping Starks learns from him this year

 

[Football Jones]

Obviously, Starks is the player to own, but it's a process. The Packers' coaching staff is making Starks earn it. Like a lot of things in FF (especially dynasty), patience is needed.

A lot of people like Starks, but I have a feeling he's even more talented than many think. Once he becomes the feature back, Starks will be a gold mine. Combine talent with a strong offense & you have the makings of a top FF back.

 

[Crazy 88]

Anyone trying to buy Starks, or sell Grant, after this past week's rush distribution?

 

[SleeperPix]

"

Coach Mike McCarthy strongly suggested Tuesday that Ryan Grant will have a bigger role going forward after a 92-yard breakout game in Week 3.

"Ryan Grant is an attempt runner," McCarthy said. "That's what he is. He's a bull. You've got to give him the ball, he gets better as the game moves forward. He's an excellent north and south runner. I don't think the defensive players probably enjoy tackling him a lot." OC Joe Philbin conceded that Grant had "cleaner" holes than James Starks, but the Packers staff believes the veteran is finally showing pre-injury form. If his kidney bruise checks out this week, expect Grant to be the lead back against the Broncos. It's a "hot hand" approach from there.

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[Steed]

Last chance to get Starks for a reasonable price.

 

[GreenNGold]

Get Grant while there are still doubters out there. He won't come cheaply after week 4. He will be the clear #1 from here on out (barring injury).

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

You guys championing Starks or Grant are missing the bus. It's a time share. The hot hand will get the work week to week. Neither is far greater than the other.

 

[Reepicheep]

Last chance to get Starks for a reasonable price.

Get Grant while there are still doubters out there. He won't come cheaply after week 4. He will be the clear #1 from here on out (barring injury).

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Both Grant and Starks have looked good at times this year. No reason for GB to put emphasis on either, although I hate how they are constantly rotating them both in and out of the game. A player needs to be able to establish a rhythm and certain level of comfort reading the defense in order to succeed, not possible if you run in for a play and run out again. Keep them on the field for a series each and substitute for a break only after long runs.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Looks like a clearly split backfield to me. DOn't see that changing unless someone gets hurt.

three weeks and six pages later, still the best post in the thread

 

[dwashington]

He did leave yesterday in an ambulance...xrays negative on the shot he took late in the game (still played after it).

McCarthy just said he has a kidney bruise. That does not sound fun.

First time I heard that info. Where did you hear that?

 

[cvnpoka]

shoulda sold starks last week. his touches are limited and now he has been outplayed by a dangerous incumbent.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He did leave yesterday in an ambulance...xrays negative on the shot he took late in the game (still played after it).

McCarthy just said he has a kidney bruise. That does not sound fun.

First time I heard that info. Where did you hear that?

The internet

 

[dwashington]

He did leave yesterday in an ambulance...xrays negative on the shot he took late in the game (still played after it).

McCarthy just said he has a kidney bruise. That does not sound fun.

First time I heard that info. Where did you hear that?

The internet

Thanks!

 

[sho nuff]

He did leave yesterday in an ambulance...xrays negative on the shot he took late in the game (still played after it).

McCarthy just said he has a kidney bruise. That does not sound fun.

First time I heard that info. Where did you hear that?

The internet

Yeah...heard it on ESPN Milwaukee and saw it on several sites.Thanks for posting the link, I was posting from my phone and did not bring it in the other day.

 

[sho nuff]

McCarthy on the injuries: Grant and Bulaga will be hard-pressed to play. Both want to give it a try Sunday, but the medical staff isn't confident either will be ready. Grant's injury requires special protocol because of it being an internal injury.

From today's practice report.http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/130719498.htmlLooks better for Starks owners who may need him this week.

 

[GreenNGold]

Grant is officially out this week. Looks like Starks will get one more shot to prove himself, but Green is going to get some carries too.

I still expect Grant to get the majority of the carries once his kidney is better.

 

[BlitzPickup]

Green is going to be the lead back by the end of the season! Get him while you still can!

 

[smackdaddies]

Denver held Chris Johnson to a 1.6 yard avg. When Starks gets held to less, any bets on how fast all the man luv for starks completely disintegrates? I think this was a good week for Grant to get held out and let Starks suck.

 

[degenerate]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

 

[smackdaddies]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

 

[RBM]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

He was 15 yards away 2 weeks ago on only 9 carries. The short memories around here are getting extra annoying.

 

[smackdaddies]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

He was 15 yards away 2 weeks ago on only 9 carries. The short memories around here are getting extra annoying.

It's not that starks can't rush for over 100 yards - he clearly can - it's just that he will not do that against Denver. Denver held Chris Johnson to 1.6 yard avg. You really think that Starks is better?

 

[cobalt_27]

Grant is officially out this week. Looks like Starks will get one more shot to prove himself, but Green is going to get some carries too. I still expect Grant to get the majority of the carries once his kidney is better.

What part of playing the hot hand eludes people so much? This isn't a situation fixed into perpetuity. Grant will play more than Starks so long as he's more productive. Starks will play more than Grant as long as he's more productive. Starks can ammend for last week's abysmal outing, but it's not like last week was a death sentence and that this week is his only shot to get off death row. He's a young, talented player who had a bad game. Grant earned more PT, and it's too bad for him that he suffered this injury when he did. But, MM is going to keep this position fluid by design.

 

[Goldfinger007]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

He was 15 yards away 2 weeks ago on only 9 carries. The short memories around here are getting extra annoying.

It's not that starks can't rush for over 100 yards - he clearly can - it's just that he will not do that against Denver. Denver held Chris Johnson to 1.6 yard avg. You really think that Starks is better?

Denver stacked the box and absolutely sold out to stop CJ. You really think they're gonna stack the line and sell out to stop the run against Rodgers and co?

 

[poo flingin monkey]

Who has not stopped CJ this year? Is this really a discussion thread?

 

[smackdaddies]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

He was 15 yards away 2 weeks ago on only 9 carries. The short memories around here are getting extra annoying.

It's not that starks can't rush for over 100 yards - he clearly can - it's just that he will not do that against Denver. Denver held Chris Johnson to 1.6 yard avg. You really think that Starks is better?

63 yards rushing, no td for Starksjustsayin

 

[degenerate]

100 total yds, just sayin

 

[smackdaddies]

100 total yds, just sayin

101, technically, with no tdbut I called no way would he rush for 100 yards, which so many people found inconceivable. not so much

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Starks looked bad as a runner.

32 yards with 11 minutes remaining, he then did his damage when the game was over.

Rodgers had to be the running threat as Starks offered none.

 

[bulger2holt]

Starks looked bad as a runner.32 yards with 11 minutes remaining, he then did his damage when the game was over. Rodgers had to be the running threat as Starks offered none.

I thought Starks looked good.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Starks looked bad as a runner.32 yards with 11 minutes remaining, he then did his damage when the game was over. Rodgers had to be the running threat as Starks offered none.

I thought Starks looked good.

He certainly looked better in garbage time, which counts. I'm not saying it doesn't.But until then, despite the spread offense and the defense playing to handle Rodgers, he didn't look good as a primary runner to me. Looked Mendenhall-esque.

 

[degenerate]

100 total yds, just sayin

101, technically, with no tdbut I called no way would he rush for 100 yards, which so many people found inconceivable. not so much

You called no rushing for 100 after I guaranteed 100 total yds or a td. You acted like Denver was gonna hold him to 1.6 ypc b/c they stopped cj. Stop trying to get credit like you made some great unbelievable prediction. I think we can all assume he will likely never rush for 100 in this offense. That's why I said total yds. He has value in dump offs. Great call bro!!!!

 

[cvnpoka]

best ive seen starks. looks promising. im a hater tho, so i say sell high.

 

[GreenNGold]

If Grant is available in any of your leagues right now, grab him! He will cement his role as the clear #1 RB this week (barring any future injuries) and won't look back rest of the year!

 

[packersfan]

I like Grant a lot but I think as long as he and Starks are healthy they'll both be nothing more than RB3 options most weeks.

 

[GreenNGold]

I like Grant a lot but I think as long as he and Starks are healthy they'll both be nothing more than RB3 options most weeks.

Agreed, although I think Grant > Starks from here on out, and could easily put up decent RB2 numbers going forward. Trade/drop Starks for Grant if you can.

 

[packersfan]

I like Grant a lot but I think as long as he and Starks are healthy they'll both be nothing more than RB3 options most weeks.

Agreed, although I think Grant > Starks from here on out, and could become more RB2 going forward. Trade/drop Starks for Grant if you can.

I think Grant is the better RB right now. Starks has the higher ceiling. The problem I see for Grant (excluding his kidney injury) is the Packers' coaching staff is ga ga about Starks' potential. You could see it in the Bears' game when Grant was terrific, Starks was awful and Starks still got a decent number of touches. Barring injury, I don't see the coaches going away from Starks completely which caps Grant's potential.

 

[GreenNGold]

I like Grant a lot but I think as long as he and Starks are healthy they'll both be nothing more than RB3 options most weeks.

Agreed, although I think Grant > Starks from here on out, and could become more RB2 going forward. Trade/drop Starks for Grant if you can.

I think Grant is the better RB right now. Starks has the higher ceiling. The problem I see for Grant (excluding his kidney injury) is the Packers' coaching staff is ga ga about Starks' potential. You could see it in the Bears' game when Grant was terrific, Starks was awful and Starks still got a decent number of touches. Barring injury, I don't see the coaches going away from Starks completely which caps Grant's potential.

In that game, Starks got most of his touches in the first half, and only had one touch after his fumble though.

 

[smackdaddies]

RB selection by the Pack will come down (generally speaking) pro set style (grant will be in) or spread offense (expect Starks)

And expect Kuhns to get most of the TD's.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

RB selection by the Pack will come down (generally speaking) pro set style (grant will be in) or spread offense (expect Starks) And expect Kuhns to get most of the TD's.

I do think they wanted to ease Grant along before considering him as an option to get heavy touches. Which is still possible if his production warrants it.

 

[nysportsfan]

Looks like Grant is ready to go - anyone care to predict how he does this week? Hesitant to roll him out there, but if he's full bore I see some solid numbers.

 

[smackdaddies]

McCarthy said some really nice things about Grant yesterday.

I bet Starks has the big game....

 

[Ray_T]

I'll quit fantasy if Starks doesn't either score or has under 100 total yds. This board has some crazy ### members. So much overreaction all over sp.

Starks will NOT get 100 yards or more rushing. He may get a touchdown, but Kuhn has far better odds than Starks

He was 15 yards away 2 weeks ago on only 9 carries. The short memories around here are getting extra annoying.

It's not that starks can't rush for over 100 yards - he clearly can - it's just that he will not do that against Denver. Denver held Chris Johnson to 1.6 yard avg. You really think that Starks is better?

Denver stacked the box and absolutely sold out to stop CJ. You really think they're gonna stack the line and sell out to stop the run against Rodgers and co?

This is a very good point.You cannot stack the box or Rodgers will burn you.

 

[Ray_T]

Looks like Grant is ready to go - anyone care to predict how he does this week? Hesitant to roll him out there, but if he's full bore I see some solid numbers.

you know, given that Grant & Starks are putting up similar numbers, why would you not give grant the extra week to heal. I know he wants to play, but a Kidney is important. He may play, but I'd guess not a lot.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Looks like Grant is ready to go - anyone care to predict how he does this week? Hesitant to roll him out there, but if he's full bore I see some solid numbers.

Alex Green 180/3 6/70/2Grant 0Starks 0Kuhn 0Haha. Who knows? Seriously. This is trying to guess the outcome of a flipped coin, but with worse odds. Kuhn will steal some goal line love, but otherwise I think it's split between Starks and Grant. I don't think either one is more than a RB3, unless you like to gamble. Starks could get a long TD, but I don't see Grant doing that.

 

[smackdaddies]

Article in todays JS Online about Grant

Says he is ready to pound. Then it says they will split carries.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Article in todays JS Online about Grant

Says he is ready to pound. Then it says they will split carries.

What Grant is ready to do... what the team appears to be continuing to do.