Robert Meachem (1 Viewer)

[Raiders]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

 

[Ed4252]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

 

[Raiders]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

 

[Warpig]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

 

[FavreCo]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).

Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'

Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.

Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

 

[az_prof]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

 

[redman]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

Pfft. That's what they said about Todd Pinkston.

 

[Warpig]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

You are correct. Preseason games don't mean squat. However, I think we learned alot about Meachem's character. He's afraid to get hit, he'll alligator arm, at this point he can't get off the line, and it appeared that he's just not a very good receiver.There were a few that saw this coming, but I was in denial and fell in love with his college #'s and the offense he landed in. The Pinkston reference was frighteningly close...which is sad.

 

[hephner]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

 

[az_prof]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

No offense, but this actually proves my point as Colston had the same statistical performance last night as Meachem--both caught 1 for 6 yards and dropped a few others. Are we going to downgrade our ranking of Colston too? You might say Colton's preseason performance doesn't mean anything....yet, it did last year. Was Meachem playing with Brees? Part of the reason most people see value in Meachem is because of the QB and the offense, yet in a preseason game he got none of the benefit of those two considerations. We are all so desperate to watch football and to have real, tangible information about players that we tend to overplay the importance of preseason.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

Also the first reports out of minicamp/OTAs last year were that Colston looked bad.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Perfect time to go and get him much cheaper than he could be had before! It's BUY time - everyone was watching last night, so take advantage.

 

[redman]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

Also the first reports out of minicamp/OTAs last year were that Colston looked bad.

Bad refers to skillset. Alligator arms refer to heart. You can improve your skills but I don't think "she's" going to get coached into a new heart.

 

[Warpig]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

Also the first reports out of minicamp/OTAs last year were that Colston looked bad.

Was Colston flat out afraid to catch in last year's pre-season games? Meachem looked scared. I mean c'mon...he slid under a hit and didn't even attempt to catch the pass. And I thought Fife (the QB that was in there) actually looked pretty good for a 3rd stringer. So it's not like the QB was laying out Meachem...Meachem just didn't want to lay out. But I guess we can all assume that he'll change all of that come regular season.

 

[faulkfan]

Didn't see the game and while Meacham dodging hits rather than catching balls is concerning, it only makes me drop him down my draft chart a couple spots. Where I would hope to take him he will bea value either way.

 

[VICK-tory]

I'm drafting him as my last Wr b/c I think all this negative talk will be forgotten when the lights go on. Meachem's a superstar and Henderson or T. Cooper are not.

 

[Neo]

I'm drafting him as my last Wr b/c I think all this negative talk will be forgotten when the lights go on. Meachem's a superstar and Henderson or T. Cooper are not.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

 

[brewer]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

I have learned to put very little stock in preseason games. These kinds of absolute conclusions based on preseason are the wrong way to approach it.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but there are definitely things that can be learned from the preseason. Although this example is the opposite scenario, last year, judging from what I read about another Saint, Marques Colston, in the preseason, I drafted him in the 14th round in one league. Fantasy Gold.

Also the first reports out of minicamp/OTAs last year were that Colston looked bad.

Was Colston flat out afraid to catch in last year's pre-season games? Meachem looked scared. I mean c'mon...he slid under a hit and didn't even attempt to catch the pass. And I thought Fife (the QB that was in there) actually looked pretty good for a 3rd stringer. So it's not like the QB was laying out Meachem...Meachem just didn't want to lay out. But I guess we can all assume that he'll change all of that come regular season.

For what it's worth, I believe that Tyler Palko was the QB who led Meachem into the hits. I'm not sticking up for Meachem here, but Palko looked awful.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Perfect time to go and get him much cheaper than he could be had before! It's BUY time - everyone was watching last night, so take advantage.

Amazing how ONE preseason game seems to carry so much weight.

 

[massraider]

Perfect time to go and get him much cheaper than he could be had before! It's BUY time - everyone was watching last night, so take advantage.

Amazing how ONE preseason game seems to carry so much weight.

Happens every year. I always watch the preseason games right before my draft, just to see the bum that'll get drafted way too high the next day.

 

[FavreCo]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

But THAT is not the answer you give. That answer comes across as my interests are ONLY money. As true as it may be. The correct answer is, 'I have done all I can at this level and I want to prove myself at the next level'. NOT 'I'm cashing in'. Last night he showed what a guy who is 'cashing in' plays like.

 

[DerekZoolander]

I'd give Meachem a tad more time. Palko hung him out to dry on the pass directly before that one, and on the second try it looked like the same result was about to happen...

It's not a great sign, but I wouldn't put all the stock in the world in one play that followed a huge hit. Wait and see if it's the start of a trend, first.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

 

[ConstruxBoy]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

I didn't get to watch the game but did this happen in the middle? He's always been known to be hesitant, while in college, to go over the middle for those types of passes. And that's something you can get away with in college but he's going to have to improve if he wants to succeed in the NFL.

Yes both passes were over the middle. Which seems like it would be awfully hard to trust him as both a coordinator and QB, on those kind of routes. I mean why would you throw it to him over the middle if hes not going to even TRY to catch it. Worse those could easliy lead to INTs. The word on the street is that he isn't able to get off the line in camp, and that if you bump him he can't get into the route. I'm worried about his toughness.

I was so pissed watching him #### out last night that I was hoping I'd find a thread like this.

I own this pansy in two dynasty leagues now. Just picked him up yesterday in a 16 team dynasty.

I was disgusted watching his lack of effort. He's scared to death to go across the middle! I think he was targeted 4 times and he caught 1 ball that was just a quick slant I believe for about 6 yards.

What a ####!

Can't say you weren't warned. Almost every scouting report on him mentioned this issue.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

David Patten has been working as the Saints' No. 3 receiver at training camp.

It seems unlikely that Patten will stay there, but if he does Robert Meachem could be as low as fifth on the totem pole behind starters Marques Colston and Devery Henderson, Patten, and key reserve Terrance Copper. Patten isn't someone to consider in fantasy leagues yet. Aug. 5 - 12:54 pm et

Source: Baton Rouge Advocate

 

[Joe Bryant]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

But THAT is not the answer you give. That answer comes across as my interests are ONLY money. As true as it may be. The correct answer is, 'I have done all I can at this level and I want to prove myself at the next level'. NOT 'I'm cashing in'. Last night he showed what a guy who is 'cashing in' plays like.

I know you said you don't have a link but I'd like to see where he really said that. I'd say that was taken way out of context knowing what I know of the guy. I'd like to see the full quote.J

 

[Joe Bryant]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).

Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'

Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.

Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

But THAT is not the answer you give. That answer comes across as my interests are ONLY money. As true as it may be. The correct answer is, 'I have done all I can at this level and I want to prove myself at the next level'. NOT 'I'm cashing in'. Last night he showed what a guy who is 'cashing in' plays like.

This is more what I've seen of him. Article about growing up on a farm.

Meachem finished the 2006 season with 71 catches for 1,298 yards and 11 touchdowns and was a third-team All-American.

Deeply spiritual, he fasted for two days before deciding to forgo his senior season and declare for the draft.

"Jesus fasted for a lot longer than that," Meachem said. "I think I could make it a couple of days."

The future

Meachem asked his mother, Lowe and longtime friend Carlos Foster to narrow a list of 40 agents down to four before he met with them following Tennessee's bowl loss to Penn State. He chose Jeff Griffin, who represented the late Darrent Williams, the Broncos cornerback who was killed in a shooting in Denver in January.

Meachem had a breakout junior year at Tennessee after two seasons in which he didn't live up to expectations.After spending time at Athletes' Performance in Tucson, Ariz., an elite training facility where top prospects prepare for the draft, Meachem had an impressive showing at the combine. He recorded a 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, but that wasn't good enough for him.

"I was mad because I wanted to run a 4.2," he said. "I did it in Arizona and I felt like I could've done it in Indy."

That's about as close as Meachem comes to being brash. He was so reserved during combine interviews that a few teams worried about his confidence level. But he quickly cleared that up with the way he competed during drills at the combine.

"He's the prototypical receiver," said Jeff Ireland, the Cowboys' vice president of college and pro scouting. "He's physical, he's fast, has good hands and has the versatility to play different positions."

Meachem doesn't have a preference for where he could end up, but he already knows what his first purchase will be.

"I'm getting mom an emerald green Lexus with gold trim," he said. "That's the one she's always wanted."

Not a bad choice for a farm vehicle.

Always thought of here as a great kid. Tennessee has more than it's share of not great kids. But Meachem isn't one of them.J

 

[FavreCo]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

But THAT is not the answer you give. That answer comes across as my interests are ONLY money. As true as it may be. The correct answer is, 'I have done all I can at this level and I want to prove myself at the next level'. NOT 'I'm cashing in'. Last night he showed what a guy who is 'cashing in' plays like.

I know you said you don't have a link but I'd like to see where he really said that. I'd say that was taken way out of context knowing what I know of the guy. I'd like to see the full quote.J

It happened. The discussion of this at the time was in the NFL Draft Countdown website. At the time when I brought up the statement in the article posted, others said 'so what, he can say that, it doesn't hurt his draft value'. No one seemed to understand the red flag of 'I'm cashing in'. He mentioned 'family blah blah blah' but he said 'I'm cashing in.' Either that or the writer changed what he said but it was printed in the article that way.

 

[Block]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.

Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

 

[saintfool]

it's a preseason game. the kid has too much talent to be written off entirely at this point. the coaches - at UT and at Saints - speak highly of him as a competitor and person. the fact that he was even being considered a potential starter, when we know most rookie WR's get very little PT, speaks a lot about what his potential is. he can do better and i expect him step up. payton will do everything to get him ready for the NFL. i mean, he finally has devery playing like a pro....

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

Where were you during draft discussions?

 

[Willowdoc]

Here's what I garnered from the game. Robert Meachem was playing in the 4th quarter of the 1st preseason game. A player with the potential to start doesn't play in the 4th Q in the 1st preseason game. He has to be sitting behind 4 or 5 other receivers to be doing that. Especially since he got a big hit in the 4th Q and was sent back in.

 

[Block]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

Where were you during draft discussions?

Not here obviously. College tapes are still available online; I suggest anyone who thought/thinks Meachem was better than Bowe take a look. Bowe is a monster.When you make a mistake in fantasy football, you need to look at why you made it and try to not make it again. It was clear to me since April that Meachem would be a bust. Sometimes you draft a guy and he becomes a bust and it is bad luck, but here it was avoidable.

 

[saintfool]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

his freshman year he had the knee injury. the surgery in june was as much prevention as anything, fixing and cleaning his knee in a way that wasn't done in knoxville. so an injury-prone label isn't entirely warranted.he was the leading receiver for the Vols his soph and junior year. i don't know if you ever saw him with the Vols but i remember him as a downfield threat. it may be a case where he needs to adjust his play to accept that role or let payton play him to his strengths.

 

[Block]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

his freshman year he had the knee injury. the surgery in june was as much prevention as anything, fixing and cleaning his knee in a way that wasn't done in knoxville. so an injury-prone label isn't entirely warranted.he was the leading receiver for the Vols his soph and junior year. i don't know if you ever saw him with the Vols but i remember him as a downfield threat. it may be a case where he needs to adjust his play to accept that role or let payton play him to his strengths.

Meachem is fast and caught balls down the field using his speed. He looked to be a pretty good runner after the catch also. Those are the positives.The negatives are that 1) he isn't muscular and has shown an ability to get out of shape quickly since the draft, 2) he has the aforementioned knee issue that has recurred at least once and may do so again, 3) he seems afraid to go over the middle and make the tough catch (he never did this in the college tapes I've seen), and 4) his route running isn't very good.A guy can get by with speed alone at the college level, but in the NFL you need more. He doesn't look to have more, IMO, plus he can get out of shape, has questionable motivation, and has the knee issue.Bowe, on the other hand, looks like thisositives: 1) very good route runner, 2) no fear of going over the middle, 3) well muscled, knows how to use his body, 4) decent speed overall, but good considering his sizenegatives: dropped more balls than he should have, but has since corrected his vision with lasik; didn't have eye-popping statisticsI've always thought it was clear that Bowe was the more talented player. Bowe= Terrell Owens without the elite speed (or character issues probably), while Meachem looks like another Alvin Harper with weight and injury issues. Those who picked Meachem ahead of Bowe often acknowledged this, and picked Meachem because he plays for a better offense.I think we will look back at this debate and conclude that it is always better to take the better player instead of the better situation, at least when you are talking about wide receivers.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

this thread needs a video link. Thanks Time warner

 

[az_prof]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

Where were you during draft discussions?

Not here obviously. College tapes are still available online; I suggest anyone who thought/thinks Meachem was better than Bowe take a look. Bowe is a monster.When you make a mistake in fantasy football, you need to look at why you made it and try to not make it again. It was clear to me since April that Meachem would be a bust. Sometimes you draft a guy and he becomes a bust and it is bad luck, but here it was avoidable.

It's easy to proclaim yourself a fantasy prophet even before one regular season game has been played. It will be interesting to see if you are still boasting about your foresight three years from now when we will really know if Meachem is any good. One thing I have learned over many years of playing fantasy football: don't overreact to the preseason. Personally, I don't expect a rookie to start his first year, and certainly not in preseason. I expect him to make mistakes and learn. Avoiding brutal hits in a meaningless preseason game that is out of hand already sounds sensible to me, not bad. He had already been laid out once and took that hit. You can't criticize him on the one hand for not taking hits across the middle and then talk about how he got laid out.

 

[az_prof]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

his freshman year he had the knee injury. the surgery in june was as much prevention as anything, fixing and cleaning his knee in a way that wasn't done in knoxville. so an injury-prone label isn't entirely warranted.he was the leading receiver for the Vols his soph and junior year. i don't know if you ever saw him with the Vols but i remember him as a downfield threat. it may be a case where he needs to adjust his play to accept that role or let payton play him to his strengths.

Meachem is fast and caught balls down the field using his speed. He looked to be a pretty good runner after the catch also. Those are the positives.The negatives are that 1) he isn't muscular and has shown an ability to get out of shape quickly since the draft, 2) he has the aforementioned knee issue that has recurred at least once and may do so again, 3) he seems afraid to go over the middle and make the tough catch (he never did this in the college tapes I've seen), and 4) his route running isn't very good.A guy can get by with speed alone at the college level, but in the NFL you need more. He doesn't look to have more, IMO, plus he can get out of shape, has questionable motivation, and has the knee issue.Bowe, on the other hand, looks like thisositives: 1) very good route runner, 2) no fear of going over the middle, 3) well muscled, knows how to use his body, 4) decent speed overall, but good considering his sizenegatives: dropped more balls than he should have, but has since corrected his vision with lasik; didn't have eye-popping statisticsI've always thought it was clear that Bowe was the more talented player. Bowe= Terrell Owens without the elite speed (or character issues probably), while Meachem looks like another Alvin Harper with weight and injury issues. Those who picked Meachem ahead of Bowe often acknowledged this, and picked Meachem because he plays for a better offense.I think we will look back at this debate and conclude that it is always better to take the better player instead of the better situation, at least when you are talking about wide receivers.

How do we know all this? Bowe has played in how many games? As an opinion, this is interesting. But at this point we don't know anything more than that there are two young, talented guys trying to get better. Bowe probably has less competition for a starting position, but he also has a big question mark at quarterback. Meachem has a strong player ahead of him and some competition but he has a great quarterback. That's all that I know at this time. The training issue is a non-issue--he is already in shape; and the injury issue is a non-issue; he is already healed and it is not a serious injury.

 

[jurb26]

Knee-jerk pre-season reactions take flight!

 

[Neo]

this thread needs a video link. Thanks Time warner

I thought this was well put together (if you can stomach the music):Dwayne Bowe Highlights

ETA: I just realized you meant of the game yesterday.....oh well....enjoy Bowe blowing people up.

 

[duaneok66]

I'm drafting him as my last Wr b/c I think all this negative talk will be forgotten when the lights go on. Meachem's a superstar and Henderson or T. Cooper are not.

no way does Meachem start over Henderson, and before I get a reply, yes, I thought this way BEFORE the game . . .

 

[Block]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

Where were you during draft discussions?

Not here obviously. College tapes are still available online; I suggest anyone who thought/thinks Meachem was better than Bowe take a look. Bowe is a monster.When you make a mistake in fantasy football, you need to look at why you made it and try to not make it again. It was clear to me since April that Meachem would be a bust. Sometimes you draft a guy and he becomes a bust and it is bad luck, but here it was avoidable.

It's easy to proclaim yourself a fantasy prophet even before one regular season game has been played. It will be interesting to see if you are still boasting about your foresight three years from now when we will really know if Meachem is any good. One thing I have learned over many years of playing fantasy football: don't overreact to the preseason. Personally, I don't expect a rookie to start his first year, and certainly not in preseason. I expect him to make mistakes and learn. Avoiding brutal hits in a meaningless preseason game that is out of hand already sounds sensible to me, not bad. He had already been laid out once and took that hit. You can't criticize him on the one hand for not taking hits across the middle and then talk about how he got laid out.

First, had that been Bowe running across the middle, he wouldn't have gotten laid out; the guy hitting him would have bounced off him. Meachem has no muscle tone; injuries will pile on if he spends any time going over the middle.Also, if you watch the play Meachem dropped the ball before the guy even hit him. The drop was not caused by the hit.And yes, a few plays later he ducked for cover. Keep in mind, this is playing against guys who probably won't even make the Steelers' final roster.For your sake, it would be better if you came around on Meachem sooner rather than later. The guy won't amount to anything in the NFL.

 

[gianmarco]

That's it. I saw enough last night.

Traded Meachem for Cedric Wilson in every league I'm in. I'm brilliant.

 

[duaneok66]

Bowe is the second best receiver in this draft, not Meachem. Watch their tapes and you see a world of difference. Bowe is the guy to watch after Calvin in this draft.

Meachem has good timed speed, but that's about it. He won't go over the middle and he gets hurt alot, and has what could be a recurring knee problem.

Where were you during draft discussions?

Not here obviously. College tapes are still available online; I suggest anyone who thought/thinks Meachem was better than Bowe take a look. Bowe is a monster.When you make a mistake in fantasy football, you need to look at why you made it and try to not make it again. It was clear to me since April that Meachem would be a bust. Sometimes you draft a guy and he becomes a bust and it is bad luck, but here it was avoidable.

It's easy to proclaim yourself a fantasy prophet even before one regular season game has been played. It will be interesting to see if you are still boasting about your foresight three years from now when we will really know if Meachem is any good. One thing I have learned over many years of playing fantasy football: don't overreact to the preseason. Personally, I don't expect a rookie to start his first year, and certainly not in preseason. I expect him to make mistakes and learn. Avoiding brutal hits in a meaningless preseason game that is out of hand already sounds sensible to me, not bad. He had already been laid out once and took that hit. You can't criticize him on the one hand for not taking hits across the middle and then talk about how he got laid out.

First, had that been Bowe running across the middle, he wouldn't have gotten laid out; the guy hitting him would have bounced off him. Meachem has no muscle tone; injuries will pile on if he spends any time going over the middle.Also, if you watch the play Meachem dropped the ball before the guy even hit him. The drop was not caused by the hit.

And yes, a few plays later he ducked for cover. Keep in mind, this is playing against guys who probably won't even make the Steelers' final roster.

For your sake, it would be better if you came around on Meachem sooner rather than later. The guy won't amount to anything in the NFL.

good point (bolded) . . . however give Meachem another play or two on the field before you dismiss him . . .

 

[chris1969]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

I'm with you Joe, and I'm not gonna make a decision based on 1 pass play either. And before anybody else says 2 plays, getting blown up on a play is not the WR's fault. He was led right into the hit. Let's give him a few pre-season games before we decide he has no heart. Ask any WR in the NFL about their first season and I'm sure they would all have a story about getting clobbered and hearing foot-steps. Some of you guys that actually played WR, TE, or HB think back to that first time you got clobbered trying to make a catch and you know what I'm talking about. You work it out quick and you even get used to it to the point that the same hit doesn't seem as hard anymore. Now I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I'd be willing to guess that getting Clobbered in the NFL is a little more intense than getting clobbered in college, so don't bring up the "He should be used to it by now! " excuse.Now as to my opinion on why Meachem may be valuable to the Saints. The Saints have been able to run the ball for a while now. They also have guys that can stretch the field. What Meachem can do to add to that is to catch a short pass like an out or a short curl and turn a little play into a big play. I would expect him to be on the opposite side of the field as Bush on most passing plays. He'll do a lot of the same things that Bush is able to do. What that gives the Saints is the threat that any given play can be a big play from anywhere on the field. The other team has to cover the entire field or Brees will beat them. If they creep up to stop the run, Brees throws deep. If they drop the safties and spy the RB either Bush or Meachem will be open in the middle of the field with room to run. Brees has proven that he makes good decisions, so it was a smart choice to give him more options.Oh and I got something to say to Meachem too.Welcome to the NFL Mrs. Meachem

 

[jurb26]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

 

[duaneok66]

between the burnt toast (NO CBs) and Meachem's antics, the game turned out to be pretty good (by preseason standards) . . .

 

[Block]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

 

[jurb26]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.