Rookies Help Giants Get Over the Hump (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

 

[chook]

The Alford sack was huge, and the Boss catch was really impressive.

Steve Smith causing the interception worried me a lot, but he made up for it ok. He seems like a future Bobby Engram.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

That's pretty amazing. Good research. Gotta be proud of that front office.

 

[Bri]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

I don't recall seeing Johnson last night.DeOssie had a tackle or two on ST, one of them near the end when the Pats were desperate for a nice return.

Pretty awesome year for a rookie GM huh?

He didn't sign many free agents either, Mitchell was one.

Accorsi, his friend and mentor, had his trade validated last night too.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

I don't recall seeing Johnson last night.DeOssie had a tackle or two on ST, one of them near the end when the Pats were desperate for a nice return.

Pretty awesome year for a rookie GM huh?

He didn't sign many free agents either, Mitchell was one.

Accorsi, his friend and mentor, had his trade validated last night too.

Johnson got burned once (play is not coming to mind right now), but also made a tackle on Faulk and was also in on a tackle of Maroney on special teams. I remember seeing his 43 out there more than those plays. He's by far the least important of the 8, but usually the Pats find that weak spot on defense, so he still needed to hold up, even if it was only a handful of plays.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Eli Manning played very well.....but what amazes me the most in that game last night, actually two things:

1. I have never seen Tom Brady get pounded like that. He was pressured all night. If he wasn't getting sacked, he was getting hit........hard. Even when he wasn't getting hit, he was "jumpy" and his passes were just off.

2. The Giants secondary played outstanding. They were all over boss, all over him. They didn't make any terrible mistackles and let a guy go from getting a 12 yard catch into a 55 yard TD.

Personally, I didn't think the Giants were capable on defense to do it for an entire game. That was the difference.

 

[SuperJohn96]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

I don't recall seeing Johnson last night.DeOssie had a tackle or two on ST, one of them near the end when the Pats were desperate for a nice return.

Pretty awesome year for a rookie GM huh?

He didn't sign many free agents either, Mitchell was one.

Accorsi, his friend and mentor, had his trade validated last night too.

Johnson got burned once (play is not coming to mind right now), but also made a tackle on Faulk and was also in on a tackle of Maroney on special teams. I remember seeing his 43 out there more than those plays. He's by far the least important of the 8, but usually the Pats find that weak spot on defense, so he still needed to hold up, even if it was only a handful of plays.

I don't remember the NE receiver (Welker?), but in the 2nd half, the WR juked Johnson out of his shorts, and two Giants players corralled the receiver a yard and a half short of the first down marker. Then Johnson came barrelling through and pushed all three players past the first down marker.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I'm just so happy for Alford after that bad snap in the NFC title game, although they ended up winning. Great to see him make a positive impact this time.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

1 20 Aaron Ross CB Texas

2 51 Steve Smith WR USC

3 81 Jay Alford NT Penn State

4 116 Zak DeOssie LB Brown

5 153 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon

6 189 Adam Koets T Oregon State

7 224 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona

7 250 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

Ross - starting corner and playing with a banged up shoulderSmith - big catches including a huge 3rd down conversion on the final drive after an INT bounced off his hands.

Alford - Massive sack on the Pats last gasp drive to put them in 3rd and 20.

DeOssie - long snapper

Boss - 45 yard catch and run helped turn the game in the 2nd half

Johnson - 7th DB - a player that finds themselves on the field more often than you think against the Pats

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

Every player in bold played an important role tonight - that's right 7 out of 8 - big ups to the scouting department and front office

Just shows once again that a Super Bowl title takes great work from the entire organization, top to bottom.

I don't recall seeing Johnson last night.DeOssie had a tackle or two on ST, one of them near the end when the Pats were desperate for a nice return.

Pretty awesome year for a rookie GM huh?

He didn't sign many free agents either, Mitchell was one.

Accorsi, his friend and mentor, had his trade validated last night too.

Johnson got burned once (play is not coming to mind right now), but also made a tackle on Faulk and was also in on a tackle of Maroney on special teams. I remember seeing his 43 out there more than those plays. He's by far the least important of the 8, but usually the Pats find that weak spot on defense, so he still needed to hold up, even if it was only a handful of plays.

I don't remember the NE receiver (Welker?), but in the 2nd half, the WR juked Johnson out of his shorts, and two Giants players corralled the receiver a yard and a half short of the first down marker. Then Johnson came barrelling through and pushed all three players past the first down marker.

thats it! thanks for clearing that up.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Speaking of the rookies...

While the most spectacular play of the game (and maybe all Super Bowls) was the Manning avoiding the sack and Tyree's ball to the helmet catch...

I think the play of the game where I actually thought the Giants would win was on the Ahmad Bradshaw fumble.

Dude's a 7th rd rookie playing the Super Bowl, and he loses the fumble, and watches as #58 on the Pats jump right on the ball.

Instead of going into shell shock, he goes in first and literally steals the ball away from him in the middle of the dogpile.

This is a player that is well coached and highly motivated to win, and I remember saying to my Dad that if the whole team has that attitude, then the Giants would win. And you could see it all game long. The Giants just wanted it more. In fact it seemed all the rookies made mistakes but also redeemed themselves.

Steve Smith popped the ball out of his hands into an INT, Bradshaw's fumble...these could have been catastrophic to anybody in the Super Bowl, let alone to rookies, but they held their composure like 10 year vets.

It really was an amazing display of coaching. Hats off to Coughlin, who really didn't get a lot of credit coming into the season.

 

[Riffraff]

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

He also covered Eli's fumble and got a "tackle" for pushing the INT returner out of bounds.

 

[dudaman]

Bradshaw - 9 for 45 and fought for his lost fumble - also one of the embodiments of the spirit of the Giants with his tough runs.

He also covered Eli's fumble and got a "tackle" for pushing the INT returner out of bounds.

I like this kid's confidence. Nice pickup for the G-Men and anyone who stashed him on their dynasty rosters this year.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

The Alford sack was huge, and the Boss catch was really impressive.Steve Smith causing the interception worried me a lot, but he made up for it ok. He seems like a future Bobby Engram.

I wouldn't be so quick to peg Steve Smith as a Bobby Engram type. I don't think he'll blow people away with athleticism like Sidney Rice may, or bowl them over like Dwayne Bowe will. However, I think he's a better all around WR than both, and is underrated as a dynasty prospect right now.He ran a 4.45/40 at the combine and has shown very good hands and feel for zones. His QB situation is good and about as stable as it can get. I think his career will be closer to that of a Hines Ward, Derrick Mason or TJ Houshmandzadeh. Not necessarily the guy you can brag about being your #1 WR, but a top flight #1A or #2 guy who produces year in and year out. I am not quite sure he'll be ready to be a fantasy starter next season, as he'll probably start off in a 2A/2B situation with Toomer. But Toomer will be 34 next season and will retire soon. This past season was his first healthy one in 4 years. The wait won't be long for Steve Smith to be fantasy relevant.

 

[Bri]

The Alford sack was huge, and the Boss catch was really impressive.Steve Smith causing the interception worried me a lot, but he made up for it ok. He seems like a future Bobby Engram.

I wouldn't be so quick to peg Steve Smith as a Bobby Engram type. I don't think he'll blow people away with athleticism like Sidney Rice may, or bowl them over like Dwayne Bowe will. However, I think he's a better all around WR than both, and is underrated as a dynasty prospect right now.He ran a 4.45/40 at the combine and has shown very good hands and feel for zones. His QB situation is good and about as stable as it can get. I think his career will be closer to that of a Hines Ward, Derrick Mason or TJ Houshmandzadeh. Not necessarily the guy you can brag about being your #1 WR, but a top flight #1A or #2 guy who produces year in and year out. I am not quite sure he'll be ready to be a fantasy starter next season, as he'll probably start off in a 2A/2B situation with Toomer. But Toomer will be 34 next season and will retire soon. This past season was his first healthy one in 4 years. The wait won't be long for Steve Smith to be fantasy relevant.

Steve Smith is a terrific PPR prospect. There isn't a league I haven't tried to trade for him in. I don't see the fancy moves and breakaway ability of stars but he's so solid in every other category you can drum up for a WR. Just in the Supe, you saw his awareness of the first down and some tough catches(everyone drops one here and there so that INT means little to me). My favorite was one where he caught a tough catch and the camera went in to show him just giving a long hard look to the DB. Not talking not bragging just a look that said "What are ya gonna say now?" If you've got the chance to watch the game again, you'll see it. I would venture a guess that Manning has as much or close to as much confidence in him as he has in Shockey or Plax. All summer it shocked me and the little he got in during the regular season, you could see it too. Most young WRs take a year or two to earn that from their QB. That's a big deal for dynasty leagues IMO.

 

[Koya]

GREAT job by Reese. It really gives us Giants fans not only the joy of a surprise Super Bowl win, but also a very bright future. As of now, the Giants have no glaring holes to fill. Could use some more DB and LB help, you can always use OL depth and a huge run stopper up the middle to help alford wouldnt hurt. But nothing is a desperate need.

With that in mind, Reese and the Giants should be able to really pick the best available player on the board throughout the draft - and THAT is the best way to build a lasting winner. Instead of getting minimal value because you are in need to fill a position, you can pick the best guy and let things sort themselves out as to who starts/plays over time.

Steve Smith was a pick I was VERY happy with and I think he can be a very, very productive player. I dont think you need burning speed to be a top flight WR in the league, and he has more than enough speed to take it the distance if he gets away from the guy covering him. I actually see him in the mold of the "other" Steve Smith, although I wouldnt expect him to hit that ceiling. While he needs to not bat up passes (he has done that a couple times this year IIRC) his hands in general are very very good. Makes tough catches, and absorbs very tough hits. His route running is fantastic and he is only a rookie.

The Giants will likely benefit considerably by having a big WR on the other side (ala Plax) but Smith could be a great #2, or #1a.

 

[harryhood]

Lets not forget Johnson is one of the main players that comes in on Spags' "disguise blitz" package. Also keep in mind that after McQ fumbled in Green Bay it was Johnson who came in like a mad man and knocked that ball into Hixon's direction so he could make the recovery.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

yeah, i got Steve Smith NYG under contract in my contract league! Whoo hoo ME!