John Black
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Ruud is having a decent week. Will this continue or will Trotter take away these numbers?
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What are the homers saying about his situation? Originaly he was thought to be brought out on third downs, then there was some talk that Trotter would play some downs at middle, with Ruud coming IN on 3rd downs. I didnt watch the game but was wondering if he stayed on the field the whole time or what? He seems to be a good play as long as the Bucs offense keeps struggling. Thanks for any info!
What are the homers saying about his situation? Originaly he was thought to be brought out on third downs, then there was some talk that Trotter would play some downs at middle, with Ruud coming IN on 3rd downs. I didnt watch the game but was wondering if he stayed on the field the whole time or what? He seems to be a good play as long as the Bucs offense keeps struggling. Thanks for any info!
John Black
Footballguy
Paging Jene!
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I've yet to see a Buccaneer game, preseason or Week 1, so I'm making assumptions on what little I've seen locally and extrapolating from the gamebook. It appears Ruud is an every down player. There apparently was a play where he was beaten on a play down the middle, and Trotter was inactive last week, so it's not entirely settled moving forward.
Rozelle
Moderator
It's hard to imagine June not being in the nickel at some point. Trotter is such a head scratcher, 
I cant see him being anything more than goal line/short yardage, but I think Ruud will be a part of that was well. Remember we're talkin about Gruden here, 
he is a desperate man trying to keep his job, who knows what kind of crazy stuff he may do as the season progresses and starts to slip away. He's overrated, He can't develop young players, his style is wearing thin 
... Back to Ruud, I think I'm goin to start him this week, but its a situation I will try to monitor closely each and every week. I'll post whatever info I can find.
I cant see him being anything more than goal line/short yardage, but I think Ruud will be a part of that was well. Remember we're talkin about Gruden here, he is a desperate man trying to keep his job, who knows what kind of crazy stuff he may do as the season progresses and starts to slip away. He's overrated, He can't develop young players, his style is wearing thin ... Back to Ruud, I think I'm goin to start him this week, but its a situation I will try to monitor closely each and every week. I'll post whatever info I can find.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I am in a wait and see mode with Ruud.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
bad news, but I am starting him this week....that's sure to kill his value 
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Thanks,Jene. I am a little concerned too, that Trotter being active may reduce some of Ruuds PT. He still seems to be a good play this week as I believe NO is gonna be spitting piss and vinegar to get Bush and Deuce running the ball after that egg the laid last week. Im torn between Ruud and Barnett after both leaped to the top of the heap.I've yet to see a Buccaneer game, preseason or Week 1, so I'm making assumptions on what little I've seen locally and extrapolating from the gamebook. It appears Ruud is an every down player. There apparently was a play where he was beaten on a play down the middle, and Trotter was inactive last week, so it's not entirely settled moving forward.
Anyone watch the Saints game? Was Ruud really as good as his stats? I think the guy just earned himself a spot in my starting lineup next week.
Yes...Ruud completely changed that football game today. Those were not cheap, oh by the way points. It has taken a few years but...but...but...he is finally starting to generate a decent ROI.
Stunt Rock
Footballguy
Yep. He was all over the place.
he really racked them up when NO was in the red zone. I think that with Brookes age catching up to him as the season goes on, Ruud is gonna continue getting to the tackle sooner. Brooks still put up good numbers, but I believe we are seeing a changing of the guard in Tampa. It will be interesting at what point FBG starts ranking him higher than Brookes
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
supposedly brooks is pissed about being rotated in and out and being taken out of nickel formations, i'm sure ruud's success as well adds to the fire when brooks has been 'the man' for so long.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2007/09/is-brooks-miffe.html
http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2007/09/is-brooks-miffe.html
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Rozelle
Moderator
Stunt Rock said:
Ruud looked good ... very good. June came in and played nickel in certain passing situations at the expense of Brooks. It doesn't appear Ruud is in any danger from June, in terms of nickel package. And, as I think we all knew, Trotter is no competetion at this point and will never be.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I'm a believer. I wasn't before. It definitely helps him being in the nickel.
He has looked a lot better than he did before.
He has looked a lot better than he did before.
yinzer
Footballguy
Was he starting last year? It doesn't look like it to me seeing as he has almost half the tackles that he did last year. I noticed at the end of last year he came on with 8 tackles in each of the last 2 games though.
And how would playing in the weak NFC South with ATL, CAR, and NO impact his stats? positively or negatively?
I got DeMeco and Bullock, so I'm in no hurry to drop 1 of them, but he's got about as many points as them combined at this point. I doubt he'll keep up stats like FF through the year, but his numbers are definitely catching my attention.
At what point do you drop a highly rated LB to pick up this guy?
And how would playing in the weak NFC South with ATL, CAR, and NO impact his stats? positively or negatively?
I got DeMeco and Bullock, so I'm in no hurry to drop 1 of them, but he's got about as many points as them combined at this point. I doubt he'll keep up stats like FF through the year, but his numbers are definitely catching my attention.
At what point do you drop a highly rated LB to pick up this guy?
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Ryans and Bulluck are the top two LB until proven otherwise. Ruud may end up forcing himself into the LB1 discussion, especially if the Bucs continue to face bunches of offensive snaps, but isn't in their class yet.Ruud had a few spot starts for Shelton Quarles last year -- weeks 1, 10, 11 and 12. He also got significant time in Week 3 when Quarles left early.
The Gator
Footballguy
Just to confirm what a few have already said.
Heard an interview on Sirius NFL Radio with Bucs DC Monte Kiffen. He praised Ruud's play, especially his ability to get deep as the MLB needs to in the cover2. Kiffen also said that the knowledge gained from being second string to Quarels was very beneficial to Ruud.
Looks like the wait was well worth it.
Heard an interview on Sirius NFL Radio with Bucs DC Monte Kiffen. He praised Ruud's play, especially his ability to get deep as the MLB needs to in the cover2. Kiffen also said that the knowledge gained from being second string to Quarels was very beneficial to Ruud.
Looks like the wait was well worth it.
yinzer
Footballguy
I hear what you're sayin. I'm a bit disapointed in DeMeco's TKL total so far, but in that last game it seemed like the CAR offense was barely on the field from what I saw.As a grad from PSU last year and seeing a decent amount of Puz in game 1 and basically everything vs. the Stillers in week 2, he's the real deal in a great situation (Below avg offense, not a great D). I don't think he puts up 160 or whatever tackles DeMeco did last year, but I think he easily surpasses 100 tkl's and adds a few sacks, FF, and probably FR. DJ Williams I ahve always thought and still believe is solid, but I don't see him as the kind of guy who can post big games like a DeMeco or Puz.I'd say it comes down to if Ruud consistently puts up #'s like he has. He's not going to continue the FF, so it comes down to tkl's, and with that O, I think its possible but I'd like to see
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Ruud's numbers are better for a few reasons, namely, he plays in the nickel packages and more importantly, he has just improved a lot from where he was last year. He may be the most improved LB in the league.
Rozelle
Moderator
Ruud named NFC defensive player of the week. 
St Pete Times article on Buc's nickel.
Nickel provides dividends for Bucs' pass coverage
St Pete Times article on Buc's nickel.
Nickel provides dividends for Bucs' pass coverage
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
This is a great article. Thanks for posting it.Ruud named NFC defensive player of the week.
St Pete Times article on Buc's nickel.
Nickel provides dividends for Bucs' pass coverage
Here is a portion of the article:I did not know that June only played in certain nickel packages. This is definitely a situation worth monitoring. I'm wondering about the responsibilities of the LBs when they ran the 3-3-5 looks.
GOLD!
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I was borderline after the first 2 weeks...but he sure looks like a stud. :(
yinzer
Footballguy
I picked up Lofa today for a start after being somewhat unsure about Ruud
I now have to determine if Lofa gets dropped for him or D. Bowe
Despite having DeMeco and Bullock and only being able to start 2 DL/LB's with no real bench space, I might have to make room for him.
If anything, itll be to keep him off someone else's roster!
Guys stats look All-Pro. I don't think ill ever watch any part of a TB game, but he's making me likey
I now have to determine if Lofa gets dropped for him or D. Bowe
Despite having DeMeco and Bullock and only being able to start 2 DL/LB's with no real bench space, I might have to make room for him.
If anything, itll be to keep him off someone else's roster!
Guys stats look All-Pro. I don't think ill ever watch any part of a TB game, but he's making me likey
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I would drop Lofa. No way in the world I would drop Bowe. I sure was wrong about Ruud. I saw part of the game and he was all over the place. He literally went from a LB3/4 to a top ten LB almost overnight.
Ocho Cinco
Footballguy
Haha thats funny because I have Lofa as well and I am really considering dropping him for Ruud but not sure yetyinzer said:
yinzer
Footballguy
Well, if I could have Bowe and Ruud, I would but I can only drop Lofa for 1 of them. If I would drop another player, the only real option would be Mark Clayton and I don't know if im ready to drop someone like him who I have expectations for that are at least as good as Bowe prior to his injury. And actually, someone just dropped Santana Moss?! The more I think about it, I want to, but at this point Id say Bowe's much more of an uncertainty at this point sustaining his stats than RuudAnthony Borbely said:
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I misunderstood. I thought you had a choice of dropping either Bowe or Tatupu for Ruud. I would rather have Ruud than either right now. Easy choice.
Ruud is officially a stud now, in my opinion.
Ruud is officially a stud now, in my opinion.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Someone in our league dropped Bulluck... so he and Ruud are on our waiver wire. Which of the two do you recommend to pick up?PS - we are 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB and tackle heavy... I have Hawk currently, and with the shallow IDP format no roster space for both of them. Would you drop Hawk for either/both of them?
The_Hunchback
Footballguy
I think we need to take some of these drop questions to the other forum?
The two years waiting for him is really paying off. Being a 3 down backer has really been a welcome suprise since I only expected him in there for two downs.
The two years waiting for him is really paying off. Being a 3 down backer has really been a welcome suprise since I only expected him in there for two downs.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Please keep the main forum threads for strategy and player discussion rather than team-specific advice requests and answers. Thanks.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'm new to FBG and the poster just before me had asked a similar question obviously leading me to believe it was acceptable.Be assured, I won't make the same mistake again...
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
It's no problem. Hunchback has been around a bit and remembers the days when people looking for news and notes had to sift through many advice requests in what was originally a discussion thread. I think his request to move the question was directed more toward us than at you.I'm sure it looks a little nitpicky, especially when the mods don't catch every request/answer, but it does really help keep the threads streamlined and focused. We're notorious for going off on wild tangents at times.J Giles Band said:I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'm new to FBG and the poster just before me had asked a similar question obviously leading me to believe it was acceptable.Be assured, I won't make the same mistake again...The_Hunchback said:
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Even if I knew he would be a 3 down LB, there was nothing that told me he would be THIS good right now. He was not anywhere near this good last year.The_Hunchback said:
J Giles Band
Footballguy
No problem Jene, and thanks for taking a moment to clarify. I completely understand how someone asking team specific questions in an informational thread can be annoying. So again, my bad on that one.It's no problem. Hunchback has been around a bit and remembers the days when people looking for news and notes had to sift through many advice requests in what was originally a discussion thread. I think his request to move the question was directed more toward us than at you.I'm sure it looks a little nitpicky, especially when the mods don't catch every request/answer, but it does really help keep the threads streamlined and focused. We're notorious for going off on wild tangents at times.J Giles Band said:I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'm new to FBG and the poster just before me had asked a similar question obviously leading me to believe it was acceptable.Be assured, I won't make the same mistake again...The_Hunchback said:
That said, your response affirms why I decided to join... The_Hunchback
Footballguy
Jene said it perfect as always. To say we can go off on tangents is putting it mild. It seemed like we were getting off track a bit and so I was just wanting us to think about a couple of the questions being asked before asking them.Anthony, I agree with what you said about him being a three down guy. I figured if he could even get close to what Quarles had been doing the past couple years that he would be doing really good. Getting these type of numbers so far is way above any expectations I think any of us had.No problem Jene, and thanks for taking a moment to clarify. I completely understand how someone asking team specific questions in an informational thread can be annoying. So again, my bad on that one.It's no problem. Hunchback has been around a bit and remembers the days when people looking for news and notes had to sift through many advice requests in what was originally a discussion thread. I think his request to move the question was directed more toward us than at you.I'm sure it looks a little nitpicky, especially when the mods don't catch every request/answer, but it does really help keep the threads streamlined and focused. We're notorious for going off on wild tangents at times.J Giles Band said:I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'm new to FBG and the poster just before me had asked a similar question obviously leading me to believe it was acceptable.Be assured, I won't make the same mistake again...The_Hunchback said:That said, your response affirms why I decided to join...
Rozelle
Moderator
I've always been high on Ruud, I can't tell ya how nice it is to see this! 
He was the 1st LB I selected in my inagural 2005 12 team, 53 man dynasty draft at the 15:11 spot, but must admit, thats only because I was on the wrong end of a LB run in a serpantine. 
I went ahead and filled my starting DB's (4) before I selected any LB's. By the time I went for LB's, no studs were left. (like so often in drafts, game plans change). What's all this mean? ... absolutely nothing, just sharing.
It was difficult to imagine Tampa in nickel without June and Brooks (at least this year), so like many, I was figuring on him being a 2 down backer this season. Obviously I beleived he would be a good IDP someday. I thought he could be a solid two with a shot as a one, and coming into this year it appeared those expectations would have to wait yet another year. :whoosh:
WTS, I have to admit I'm surprised by his early big time production. From what I've seen so far, Ruud has looked as good as his numbers, it's still early, but he's looking like he may turn out being an IDP stud. Just like I planned 
Sometimes you da bug and sometimes you da windshield ... and then again, sometimes your just darn lucky!
He was the 1st LB I selected in my inagural 2005 12 team, 53 man dynasty draft at the 15:11 spot, but must admit, thats only because I was on the wrong end of a LB run in a serpantine. I went ahead and filled my starting DB's (4) before I selected any LB's. By the time I went for LB's, no studs were left. (like so often in drafts, game plans change). What's all this mean? ... absolutely nothing, just sharing. It was difficult to imagine Tampa in nickel without June and Brooks (at least this year), so like many, I was figuring on him being a 2 down backer this season. Obviously I beleived he would be a good IDP someday. I thought he could be a solid two with a shot as a one, and coming into this year it appeared those expectations would have to wait yet another year. :whoosh:
WTS, I have to admit I'm surprised by his early big time production. From what I've seen so far, Ruud has looked as good as his numbers, it's still early, but he's looking like he may turn out being an IDP stud. Just like I planned
Sometimes you da bug and sometimes you da windshield ... and then again, sometimes your just darn lucky!
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Pick
Footballguy
I drafted Ruud a few years ago over guys like Thurman and such. I also passed on Tatupu later. It was hard seeing Thurman do well early on and Tatupu getting lots of love. I'm not a patient owner (I trade a lot of my draft picks), but it's nice to see one pan out like this.
Go Whitey!
Go Whitey!
Rozelle
Moderator
More good news for Ruud owners.
source: PFW WWHI
The way we hear it, the impressive play of third-year MLB Barrett Ruud has caused a seismic shift in the Buccaneers’ defense. The Buccaneers are now altering their defense to funnel the action toward Ruud, who earned NFC Defensive Player of the Week honors in Week Two after leading the team in tackles and forcing two fumbles, instead of aging Pro Bowl WLB Derrick Brooks as they have for the past decade. Ruud again led the Bucs in tackles in Week Three, notching 11, and also had an interception. And Ruud, who replaced Shelton Quarles as the starting middle linebacker this season, is staying on the field in nickel packages while Brooks and SLB Cato June are alternating at the other LB spot. We hear Ruud’s cover skills have improved dramatically since last season, when he was a liability in coverage. June is superior in pass coverage to Brooks at this point in their careers, but the Buccaneers are alternating Brooks and June in nickel packages because they are easing their way into a time later this season when Brooks isn’t on the field at all in passing situations, according to our sources. We hear the Buccaneers are showing Brooks the respect they have rarely afforded other Tampa veterans like Quarles, John Lynch and Simeon Rice when they were shown the door.
Nice to see the Buc's giving Brooks the respect he has earned and deserves.
source: PFW WWHI
The way we hear it, the impressive play of third-year MLB Barrett Ruud has caused a seismic shift in the Buccaneers’ defense. The Buccaneers are now altering their defense to funnel the action toward Ruud, who earned NFC Defensive Player of the Week honors in Week Two after leading the team in tackles and forcing two fumbles, instead of aging Pro Bowl WLB Derrick Brooks as they have for the past decade. Ruud again led the Bucs in tackles in Week Three, notching 11, and also had an interception. And Ruud, who replaced Shelton Quarles as the starting middle linebacker this season, is staying on the field in nickel packages while Brooks and SLB Cato June are alternating at the other LB spot. We hear Ruud’s cover skills have improved dramatically since last season, when he was a liability in coverage. June is superior in pass coverage to Brooks at this point in their careers, but the Buccaneers are alternating Brooks and June in nickel packages because they are easing their way into a time later this season when Brooks isn’t on the field at all in passing situations, according to our sources. We hear the Buccaneers are showing Brooks the respect they have rarely afforded other Tampa veterans like Quarles, John Lynch and Simeon Rice when they were shown the door.
Nice to see the Buc's giving Brooks the respect he has earned and deserves.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Exactly the same story here. I took Ruud ahead of both of those guys and spent two years kicking myself over it.
