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Is he going to make any noise anytime soon? Homers? What's this guy's deal?
Game One- Pitt way ahead entire game handily. Ben only 14 pass attemptsGame Two- Nasty weather with a lot wind in Cleveland. Still got 4/94Game Three- Eagles defense manhandled Steeler offensive line, no time to go deep.In summary, don't give up just yet on Santonio. He does have promise as a borderline #2 or solid #3. If you are counting on him being a #1 than deal him for the best offer. By the by his matchup does not look particularly favorable vs. Ravens Monday night neither. Holmes ownerIs he going to make any noise anytime soon? Homers? What's this guy's deal?
He is huge disappointment, so is Big Ben.Holmes' role is the deep threat. Until the oline gives Ben more than 1.8 seconds of protection there's not much chance of him throwing deep with any consistency.
That about sums it up.But he'll still be in my lineup every week. The threat of the 24-point day is always there.Holmes' role is the deep threat. Until the oline gives Ben more than 1.8 seconds of protection there's not much chance of him throwing deep with any consistency.
The results have been disappointing, but it has nothing to do with Ben or Santonio. Week 1 the Texans were horrible so no need to pass after the first quarter. Week 2 was ridiculously windy. Week 3 the oline and playcalling were horrendous. I guess you can put a little of the playcalling on Ben against the Iggles. Where were the quick slants and screens against that rush?He is huge disappointment, so is Big Ben.Holmes' role is the deep threat. Until the oline gives Ben more than 1.8 seconds of protection there's not much chance of him throwing deep with any consistency.
Gosh I think I heard that analysis somewhere before.The results have been disappointing, but it has nothing to do with Ben or Santonio. Week 1 the Texans were horrible so no need to pass after the first quarter. Week 2 was ridiculously windy. Week 3 the oline and playcalling were horrendous. I guess you can put a little of the playcalling on Ben against the Iggles. Where were the quick slants and screens against that rush?He is huge disappointment, so is Big Ben.Holmes' role is the deep threat. Until the oline gives Ben more than 1.8 seconds of protection there's not much chance of him throwing deep with any consistency.
Sorry, didn't even read your post.Great minds...Gosh I think I heard that analysis somewhere before.The results have been disappointing, but it has nothing to do with Ben or Santonio. Week 1 the Texans were horrible so no need to pass after the first quarter. Week 2 was ridiculously windy. Week 3 the oline and playcalling were horrendous. I guess you can put a little of the playcalling on Ben against the Iggles. Where were the quick slants and screens against that rush?He is huge disappointment, so is Big Ben.Holmes' role is the deep threat. Until the oline gives Ben more than 1.8 seconds of protection there's not much chance of him throwing deep with any consistency.![]()
i need you around for when i have my chicken little days.Raider Nation said:There are guys you quit on, and guys you have patience with.
Holmes should defintely be in the latter category, for the reasons outlined above. I'm barely even "concerned" at this point.
i need you around for when i have my chicken little days.Raider Nation said:There are guys you quit on, and guys you have patience with.
Holmes should defintely be in the latter category, for the reasons outlined above. I'm barely even "concerned" at this point.
And you are more concerned with Marvin Harrison?Raider Nation said:There are guys you quit on, and guys you have patience with.
Holmes should defintely be in the latter category, for the reasons outlined above. I'm barely even "concerned" at this point.
Very much so. I'm encouraged by the targets Marvin got on Sunday, but he still looks slooooooooooooooooooooow.And you are more concerned with Marvin Harrison?Raider Nation said:There are guys you quit on, and guys you have patience with.
Holmes should defintely be in the latter category, for the reasons outlined above. I'm barely even "concerned" at this point.
So trade Holmes then.I heard this same be patient routine with Santana Moss last year.
I'd be crazy to at this point. With that said, there's a difference between him improving and him not meeting expectations over the course of the season.That O-line is simply awful at pass protection, and when Ben isn't getting run over (not to mention hurt), has limited time to hit Hines or Heath, much less Holmes deep. And they face tough d's who will attack that weakness. He'll probably go off against Cinci, but looking for consistency from him week to week considering all these factors is going to be hard.So trade Holmes then.I heard this same be patient routine with Santana Moss last year.![]()
What are you trying to say? Let him get another TD so I can dump him for something.