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[SaintsInDome2006]

This is how Ditka stayed in the league for years too. 

Oh I know Ditka, Payton may have a thousand flaws but he'll never be *that*.

 

[ponchsox]

Mark Ingram isn't startable anymore.

 

[The Frankman]

A pass to Adrian Peterson....

Payton gonna #### off Ingram and AP at this rate.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Based on this game, he will match his career totals in one game.

There is always a chance that Bellichik pulls him after 5 minutes when the Patriots are up 700-3

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

terrible play - no choices once the primary was covered

Play action with AP makes sense but not if you only do it to have him as the receiver.

 

[mr roboto]

Oh I know Ditka, Payton may have a thousands flaws but he'll never be *that*.

7-9 x3. Just saying. 

 

[Statorama]

This is how Ditka stayed in the league for years too. 

 So true....but to be fair, Theo Epstein's ghost can GM the Cubs for the next hundred years

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Lol AP lololololol

Career dissipation light

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I think payton believes he can hide his garbage defense by converting his good offense to a ball control running focused offense. Which won't work because they dont have the Oline for it.

 

[Cookiemonster]

So Ingram is just not a part of this offense

Tim Hightower is back on the market, I think.  Maybe they could muddle the RB position even further...

 

[PhantomJB]

Is this Kamara usage for real?

 

[fruity pebbles]

APs gonna get himself cut. Im sure you wanna hear complaining from your third string RB.

 

[timschochet]

Lol on the positive side my wife just went and got me some beer because she felt bad for me watching the Saints.

If the entire season resembles the first week she's gonna need to buy you the whole liquor store.

 

[Billy Bats]

Im late to the party, have you guys discussed the death stare yet?

 

[Shutout]

If the entire season resembles the first week she's gonna need to buy you the whole liquor store.

Roll a keg into the man cave and hook up an IV line. 

 

[Cookiemonster]

If the entire season resembles the first week she's gonna need to buy you the whole liquor store.

Yup.  Just go straight for the 80 proof!

 

[Statorama]

It's thinking like that that allows some teams to do something one time and others to keep repeating it. You'll see the difference next week when the Saints play the Patriots. One team did something once and is resting on their laurels. The other just keeps making the necessary changes and keeps winning. 

I don't mean that to sound harsh towards Saints fans. I get it. But I grew up as a Bears fan and suffered through that "did it once" mentality with Ditka and I look back at it now and think it was squander.  That team with that talent could have won another one or two but they did things one time and thought that was good enough and they just let everyone pass them by. And in the end it was almost a joke. It lessened what Ditka and all those players did do, somehow. 

I would just like to see Brees be legit factors again and I just don't think the way Peyton is doing it, they ever will. 

It's like being married to a woman that took care of you during a long illness....she may be a big #####, but she's that ##### that could have bailed when things were tough.  You never forget something like that.  No offense to Jimmy Johnson, I'm leaving with the girl that brought me to the dance

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Im late to the party, have you guys discussed the death stare yet?

Welcome to Committeeville, AP. Population: 3.

 

[efactor]

Vegas prop line on Cook rushing yards was 47. Smashed that. 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Im late to the party, have you guys discussed the death stare yet?

This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

 

[Statorama]

APs gonna get himself cut. Im sure you wanna hear complaining from your third string RB.

Real question for Vikings fans, is AP really this big of a selfish tool?  He is not winning any ML Carr awards tonight.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I know the Vikings are probably going to run to chew up clock, but the Saints are crazy crowding the like and leaving their terrible CBs 1 on 1 on the edge with nobody back deep. 

Vikings could just keep throwing it and have no problem getting another TD.

 

[timschochet]

It's just so funny to see opinion change this drastically. Just a few years ago Sean Payton was regarded as a genius coach, one of the very best in the NFL. I never really bought into that. Now per this thread he's regarded as one of the worst coaches in the NFL. I don't buy into that either. He's OK.

 

[mbuehner]

Mark Ingram isn't startable anymore.

Not right now, but ride it out.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Real question for Vikings fans, is AP really this big of a selfish tool?  He is not winning any ML Carr awards tonight.

Yes. He's been a petulant putz for years.

 

[efactor]

APs gonna get himself cut. Im sure you wanna hear complaining from your third string RB.

It would be a huge plus for the Saints. Guy will never accept being a roll player and they are wasting Ingram. 

 

[lod001]

Welcome to Committeeville, AP. Population: 3.

 

 

[timschochet]

It would be a huge plus for the Saints. Guy will never accept being a roll player and they are wasting Ingram. 

What a sad end. He seems to be a jerk and a bad guy, but he's also one of the greatest running backs the NFL has ever seen. Awful way to end his career.

 

[Rogi]

Real question for Vikings fans, is AP really this big of a selfish tool?  He is not winning any ML Carr awards tonight.

He's used to being the centerpiece of the offense and now he's a shell of his former self against his old team.

 

[humpback]

Mark Ingram isn't startable anymore.

Not right now, but ride it out.

Ride what out, Payton's tenure?

 

[mbuehner]

Welcome to Committeeville, AP. Population: 3.

'Woh woh woh sir, the back of the line.'

 

[mr roboto]

This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

I love this GB. 

 

[Statorama]

It's just so funny to see opinion change this drastically. Just a few years ago Sean Payton was regarded as a genius coach, one of the very best in the NFL. I never really bought into that. Now per this thread he's regarded as one of the worst coaches in the NFL. I don't buy into that either. He's OK.

Exactly.  There is no coach in NFL history that could take this dumpster fire of "talent" to the playoffs.  Over his career Payton has managed to make chicken salad out of what the GMs have given him.  The dude can only work so many miracles.

 

[lod001]

It's just so funny to see opinion change this drastically. Just a few years ago Sean Payton was regarded as a genius coach, one of the very best in the NFL. I never really bought into that. Now per this thread he's regarded as one of the worst coaches in the NFL. I don't buy into that either. He's OK.

Too many concussions from putting on the headset. He has totally lost any ability to coach.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Stephon Diggs: I was so bummed when I missed Crabtree and had to settle for Tate, then in the 5th missed M.Bryant & had to "settle" for Diggs. 

:win: 

hes dreamy.

also started Bradford in my other league.  

 

[fruity pebbles]

Seems like the Saints want Kamara to be the lead of the committee 

 

[mbuehner]

Ride what out, Payton's tenure?

Ingram goes through this every year, eventually gets his.

 

[mr roboto]

Real question for Vikings fans, is AP really this big of a selfish tool?  He is not winning any ML Carr awards tonight.

Yes. OMFG yes. For years it was ok cause he was talented. Then he wasn't.

But the only person who didn't know that was him (and FF players living on name recognition). 

 

[efactor]

Garbage time. Go Mike Thomas

 

[timschochet]

Ingram goes through this every year, eventually gets his.

He's getting his right now in trash time.

 

[The General]

Brees is the master of garbage time. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The life of a Saints fan.

 

[Army Eye]

Seems like the Saints want Kamara to be the lead of the committee 

The only team in the league who could have Ingram, look at how great he was last season, and say 'we need to build around another guy'

 

[lod001]

Ingram goes through this every year, eventually gets his.

When did Payton tell him to sit on the pine? After the 18 yard catch? In the 1st Q?

 

[JuniorNB]

The Saints have never been a good road team and they are playing one of the League's top defenses. Brees and Company will be fine. I think next week's home game against the Patriots could be fun. 42-35 type of game.

 

[Statorama]

Ingram PPR owners just peed a little

 

[humpback]

Ingram goes through this every year, eventually gets his.

You sound like a recent Ingram owner. Last year was the first year he really "got his", and even then Payton kept him from getting a heck of a lot more.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Saints could still get a 7th rounder for Peterson...

 

[efactor]

When did Payton tell him to sit on the pine? After the 18 yard catch? In the 1st Q?

Their relationship is an odd one for sure. Let the man play. 

 

[Statorama]

The life of a Saints fan.