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San Francisco 49ers 2013 thread (SEE NEW 2014 THREAD) (1 Viewer)
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drummer
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From Cam Inman:
Also a note from same article about the WRs:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2013/09/23/day-after-notes-aldon-smiths-potential-replacements-wr-issues/
I did not name names in my post because I didn't want to start a conversation in this thread about who is trolling, who is passive aggressively pretending that they aren't trolling, and who is not, in fact, trolling. That said, I haven't seen any reason to put you in the first two categories. There are some good 'Hawks fans out there :thumbsup:I posted this recently in your thread.thecatch said:
drummer
Footballguy
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_24168429/49ers-kaepernick-fueled-by-social-media-critics
SANTA CLARA -- Colin Kaepernick is under social-media fire, apparently to his motivational delight, after enduring back-to-back losses for the first time as the 49ers starting quarterback.
Kaepernick has "favorited" bitter tweets condemning his struggles after blowout losses to the Seattle Seahawks and Indianapolis Colts.
"It's something that I do for me. It helps me," the quarterback said Tuesday as he prepared for the 49ers' game Thursday night at St. Louis.
That bulletin-board, er, Twitter-post material includes such posts as:
"@Kaepernick7 is absolute garbage #StartColtMcCoy"
"@49ers @Kaepernick7 is like a one hit song but for him a one hit season he needs to be benched or traded."
"It's simple, @Kaepernick7 is just not smart enough to be an NFL QB #9ers Suck."
"We Want Alex smith back!!"
Getting the offense back to a productive, precision state is a goal Kaepernick shares with running back Frank Gore, who disputed the notion he yelled at coach Jim Harbaugh late in Sunday's 27-7 loss to the Indianapolis Colts.
"I like Coach Harbaugh a lot. No issues," Gore said. "No, I'm cool with Harbaugh. That's not me."
Gore had no carries after the second half's opening series, and he finished with a season-high 82 rushing yards.
"I just wanted to win, to get that nasty taste (of a 29-3 loss in Seattle) out of our moth," Gore said.
Instead, the 49ers' bitter taste -- and anti-Kaepernick tweets -- are lingering like halitosis amid a two-game losing streak.
Rams cornerback Cortland Finnegan certainly didn't add any fuel to Kaepernick's motivational fire, instead praising both the quarterback and the offense despite their struggles.
"Kaepernick can make all the plays with his feet and his arm," Finnegan said on a media conference call. "With the addition of Anquan Boldin, it's still a high-power offense."
The 49ers racked up 34 points and 494 yards of offense in their opening win over the Green Bay Packers. In ensuing blowout losses to the Seahawks and Colts, they've totaled 10 points and 461 yards.
Kaepernick had just 13 completions each of those defeats, the same number he produced to Anquan Boldin alone in the season opener.
"Everybody knows that we have to get better. We're 1-2 for a reason," Kaepernick said. "I'm not going to call out anybody. I'm going to look at myself before I look at anyone else."
While Kaepernick's completion percentage came in under 50 percent in each defeat, he's accounted for six turnovers and no touchdowns. The only other game in his 13 career starts where he didn't pass or run for a touchdown: last December's overtime loss at St. Louis, which happens to be the 49ers' next stop.
What does he recall from that last visit to St. Louis? "I remember losing. That's all I remember about that game really," Kaepernick answered.
Offensive coordinator Greg Roman said Kaepernick is "doing fine" and "working hard" as usual in the wake of the two-game losing streak.
"Every time you go through a dry spell like this, every guy needs to see what they can do better, and that starts with me," Roman said.
Added Gore: "We've just got to get back to us, and being one. We'll be fine. We feel we can do whatever we want, like before."
Junior McSpiffy
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At least Kaep's Dolphins are 3-0... so he's got that goin' for him.
drummer
Footballguy
True dat. Bradford could wear a Cubs hat and fans would only wonder why he likes the Cubs.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Yeah, that's not what was said. Like I did say, par for the course for you guys to make up what you want to argue against. All I did was to point out that 2 of the "suspects" didn't talk trash, one hadn't done so yet at the time and the other guy involved is a Rams fan. Then there's ITS. How you get that it's me blaming everyone else is anyone's guess. That's not what was said.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Then you probably shouldn't have said 3-4 Hawks fans if you didn't mean 3-4 Hawks fans. There aren't that many in here, so if your number encompasses the total, you should revise your number. All this thread needs in order to be ruined is drummer.I did not name names in my post because I didn't want to start a conversation in this thread about who is trolling, who is passive aggressively pretending that they aren't trolling, and who is not, in fact, trolling. That said, I haven't seen any reason to put you in the first two categories. There are some good 'Hawks fans out there :thumbsup:I posted this recently in your thread.thecatch said:
Wingnut
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Awesome comprehension again.Then you probably shouldn't have said 3-4 Hawks fans if you didn't mean 3-4 Hawks fans. There aren't that many in here, so if your number encompasses the total, you should revise your number. All this thread needs in order to be ruined is drummer.I did not name names in my post because I didn't want to start a conversation in this thread about who is trolling, who is passive aggressively pretending that they aren't trolling, and who is not, in fact, trolling. That said, I haven't seen any reason to put you in the first two categories. There are some good 'Hawks fans out there :thumbsup:I posted this recently in your thread.thecatch said:
"amazing how 3-4 Seahawk fans can ruin the shark pool"Is this thread now considered the entire shark pool?
drummer
Footballguy
Read a stat today - the 49ers have allowed 414 yards on the ground in the past three games. They have I think only 2 INTs on defense and one forced fumble. They are -4 in the giveaway/takeaway overall, with the offense turning the ball over more than the defense can force TO's.
Yup. It's curious how badly he whiffed on that one - is he just so enraged that he isn't taking the time to read and communicate properly? Just determined to troll this thread at all costs? Or does he lack basic communications skills? As he is one of the lonely residents of my ignore list, I am afraid I don't have the sample size to properly judge.Awesome comprehension again.Then you probably shouldn't have said 3-4 Hawks fans if you didn't mean 3-4 Hawks fans. There aren't that many in here, so if your number encompasses the total, you should revise your number. All this thread needs in order to be ruined is drummer.I did not name names in my post because I didn't want to start a conversation in this thread about who is trolling, who is passive aggressively pretending that they aren't trolling, and who is not, in fact, trolling. That said, I haven't seen any reason to put you in the first two categories. There are some good 'Hawks fans out there :thumbsup:I posted this recently in your thread.thecatch said:
Is this thread now considered the entire shark pool?
drummer
Footballguy
Was in the noon chat with Kevin Lynch on SF Gate at noon. I will post my questions (was using the screen name of Congo) and his answers to them:
Q: What's the deal with booze and the team? They've had several DUI's and off field incidents in the past few years. Serious question.
A: @Congo: I asked many players about that yesterday. I think this is a hard-partying team. They all said you have to be careful with where you go and with who you are with.
Q: Kevin, back to my question: is all that hard partying affecting the team and play? Is discipline an issue now?
A
Congo: I don't know enough to say. But there is a culture of clubbing in the NFL
Q: I think the offense is on transition this season. It's not that easy to go from a QB like Smith to a QB like Kaep. Everybody has to make adjustments, and Kaep has the talent to make the offense explosive
ACongo: I think you are right. They also miss Crabtree and don't seem to trust McDonald enough to be on the field more.
You can find that chat here:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/09/25/wednesday-chat-we-take-your-49ers-questions/
Q: What's the deal with booze and the team? They've had several DUI's and off field incidents in the past few years. Serious question.
A: @Congo: I asked many players about that yesterday. I think this is a hard-partying team. They all said you have to be careful with where you go and with who you are with.
Q: Kevin, back to my question: is all that hard partying affecting the team and play? Is discipline an issue now?
A
Congo: I don't know enough to say. But there is a culture of clubbing in the NFLQ: I think the offense is on transition this season. It's not that easy to go from a QB like Smith to a QB like Kaep. Everybody has to make adjustments, and Kaep has the talent to make the offense explosive
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Congo: I think you are right. They also miss Crabtree and don't seem to trust McDonald enough to be on the field more.You can find that chat here:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/09/25/wednesday-chat-we-take-your-49ers-questions/
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mad sweeney
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Nope, I missed it. Thought it said thread.Awesome comprehension again.Then you probably shouldn't have said 3-4 Hawks fans if you didn't mean 3-4 Hawks fans. There aren't that many in here, so if your number encompasses the total, you should revise your number. All this thread needs in order to be ruined is drummer.I did not name names in my post because I didn't want to start a conversation in this thread about who is trolling, who is passive aggressively pretending that they aren't trolling, and who is not, in fact, trolling. That said, I haven't seen any reason to put you in the first two categories. There are some good 'Hawks fans out there :thumbsup:
Is this thread now considered the entire shark pool?
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for drummer still not being able to make sense of just about anything
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drummer
Footballguy
Tweet from Harbaugh on Joe Staley:
Harbaugh on @jstaley74's injury: "Think we're going to dodge a bullet there." #49ers
https://twitter.com/49ers/status/383444712859791360
Whew! I hope so.
Harbaugh on @jstaley74's injury: "Think we're going to dodge a bullet there." #49ers
https://twitter.com/49ers/status/383444712859791360
Whew! I hope so.
drummer
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
Still wasn't impressed with Kaepernick last night. I don't know, in the playoffs last year he was throwing the ball all over the place, now he has a tendency to lock onto boldin and wait for him to get open. Missed a couple wide open guys last night (including Davis for what would have been a huge play). Getting Manningham back in a few weeks will hopefully give him another guy he trusts and feels comfortable going to. Also Baldwin looked pretty decent out there last night. The Kyle Williams and Moore experiments at WR2 thankfully appear to have been scrapped.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
You beat the Rams and Kaepernick still struggled passing. Not much to continue to say.
Kaepernick looks for his first read and if covered he looks like a deer in headlights.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Kyle needs to be scrapped altogether... Punt returns and receiving - He should've been cut after the Giants debacle, IDK how he is still on the roster.
Kaep needs to use his legs more... There were a few opportunities he had to take off yesterday and he just didn't - Making defenses respect his legs again will help free up the passing game, even with a sub par group of WRs.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Coaches did exactly what I expected them to do with Kap, reel back the offense and put him in Alex Smith mode.
I think alot of the expectations (myself included) are just too high. The guy almost won the superbowl in his 10th start as a pro. He still has yet to play 16 games as a starter. He doesn't look like he trusts himself as much this season which concerns me, but it's a mental hurdle that any young player has to overcome.
It's pretty obvious by now that he's experiencing a bit of a sophomore slump, not to mention the team as a whole has been showing signs of a post superbowl run hangover. Harbaugh catches alot of flack in the media, but I think he and the coaching staff have enough mojo to get Kap out of his funk. The hangover I'm not so sure...
I think alot of the expectations (myself included) are just too high. The guy almost won the superbowl in his 10th start as a pro. He still has yet to play 16 games as a starter. He doesn't look like he trusts himself as much this season which concerns me, but it's a mental hurdle that any young player has to overcome.
It's pretty obvious by now that he's experiencing a bit of a sophomore slump, not to mention the team as a whole has been showing signs of a post superbowl run hangover. Harbaugh catches alot of flack in the media, but I think he and the coaching staff have enough mojo to get Kap out of his funk. The hangover I'm not so sure...
drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
They created easier reads from what I saw, which is what I mentioned they should do a few days ago. Not that they read anything I post (or should lol). But last season when they made the switch from Smith to Kaep, they added in a whole 'nother bible of plays in the playbook. Something like 400 more plays. Not that they executed all of them of course, yet with Kaep the offense can be obviously more dynamic.chinawildman said:
The comment I made in the Lynch chat about the offense being in transition from Smith at QB I something I realized last season, yet the team made it seem as if the transition made it look that easy. Of course a whole off-season means other teams can look at what they were doing and what they can plan to figure it out. Kaep mode offense won the Green Bay game (Lynch posted in the chat that had Smith started this season, the 49ers could very well be 0-3, to off-set the irrational Kaep hate). The 49ers got away from putting the players in successful positions the next following losses, and last night they did what they do best in putting them in the best possible position.
It's not so much Kaep not trusting himself; it's the coaching staff who trusts some of the other weapons around them less. I can see why they don't feel Vance McDonald ready. Not that he isn't going to become a good player, it's just that he as well as a few others on offense aren't ready.
Navarro Bowman was a beast last night. I dunno if Fangio schemed it to where Bowman could get to the QB more than the outside guys at LB, but he made all kinds of plays. Game ball to Bowman.
CentralPA
Footballguy
He does seem to be experiencing a sophomore slump but I am a believer in his abilities ( I also start him in two leagues but that is beside the point). I think if VD can stay healthy and they get Manningham back then he'll get back into the flow of things. Niners need to keep running the ball, feed Gore. That will help Kaep out tremendously and it showed last night.
drummer
Footballguy
If fixing it Alex like was to rip almost all of the playbook up and watering the offense down, then yes, they have learned what even Norv Turner had to do in SF.
drummer
Footballguy
Neofight
Footballguy
Well at least they can forget something.
drummer
Footballguy
Neofight
Footballguy
How can I forget what has yet to be said in here? That was a serious question I asked... and you go insult two HOFers.
drummer
Footballguy
It really has nothing to do with the team, just the fans, and I wasn't insulting Warner and Faulk. My point was the fans should had remembered the GSOT and where they were at in the Ed Jones dome. But you add all that up and it's still a non-story.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
From rotoworld:
"49ers coach Jim Harbaugh revealed Friday rookie WR Quinton Patton fractured his foot in Thursday night's Week 4 win over St. Louis."
I think Baldwin has potential... He has the size and speed of a first rounder - now that he will probably get his shot, lets just hope he performs!!
"49ers coach Jim Harbaugh revealed Friday rookie WR Quinton Patton fractured his foot in Thursday night's Week 4 win over St. Louis."
I think Baldwin has potential... He has the size and speed of a first rounder - now that he will probably get his shot, lets just hope he performs!!
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BaBastage
Footballguy
Joe Staley update: http://www.49ers.com/news/article-3/Joe-Staley-Injury-Inspires-Epic-Tweet-/79769801-aa3c-4762-8762-532a1072c7aa
Tweeted "I'm good. And I scream like no dude should ever scream lol my bad."
Tweeted "I'm good. And I scream like no dude should ever scream lol my bad."
chinawildman
Footballguy
In case you haven't noticed, it isn't just niners fans that have negative impressions of the seahawks (see hawks superbowl thread). In some ways, I think sea hawk fans have adopted Sherman's attitude that in their quest for respect and recognition, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Can't have your cake and eat it too...
drummer
Footballguy
Listened to a pre-Ram-game podcast on KNBR, with Greg Cosell on Murph and Mac. Cosell makes some good points about Kaep and the offense. hornet, RN and tjnc09 should stop listening past the 7:23 mark though. M&M brought up the obligatory Alex Smith comparison with the offense, and I don't think it's something they want to hear. Of course we've been saying what Cosell says for years here.
http://www.knbr.com/page.php?page_id=121
Scroll down to this:
NFL Senior Producer Greg Cosell 9/25/13 Murph and Mac talk with Greg Cosell about the 49ers vs. Rams Thursday night match up
Hit play and enjoy!
http://www.knbr.com/page.php?page_id=121
Scroll down to this:
NFL Senior Producer Greg Cosell 9/25/13 Murph and Mac talk with Greg Cosell about the 49ers vs. Rams Thursday night match up
Hit play and enjoy!
drummer
Footballguy
I was paying more attention to Mooch and Kaep, wondering what Mooch was writing down to hand over to him.
Mooch coached a couple of HOF QB's and one good one in Jeff Garcia, so that got my curiosity up.
Neofight
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drummer
Footballguy
Spin
Footballguy
I thought the secondary looked great, but other than that was pretty ho-hum.
Kaep missed Vernon wide open on the sideline, but looked to me like Vernon pulled up and didn't go all out, but could be due to the angle of the camera, maybe it was just way off. He looked fast on his TD run though.
Wingnut
Footballguy
http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Mario-Manningham-Reinforcements-on-the-Way/b6dd7ef9-67df-4753-b756-1686c5873914
Reinforcements are on the way.
Most notably, veteran wide receiver Mario Manningham is one of many 49ers who could be activated off the team’s Physically Unable to Perform list.
In addition, rookie defensive linemen Tank Carradine and Quinton Dial, plus free agent signee Eric Wright, could all join Manningham at practice next week.
“Excited about that,” Harbaugh said.
READ: CRABTREE COULD RETURN IN NOVEMBER
Once activated off the PUP list, the 49ers have a three-week window to activate the players on to the 53-man roster.
“We’re counting down the days,” Harbaugh said of the possibility of adding quality players to the team’s already deep roster. “We’re counting down the weeks and now down to one week.”
Reinforcements are on the way.
Most notably, veteran wide receiver Mario Manningham is one of many 49ers who could be activated off the team’s Physically Unable to Perform list.
In addition, rookie defensive linemen Tank Carradine and Quinton Dial, plus free agent signee Eric Wright, could all join Manningham at practice next week.
“Excited about that,” Harbaugh said.
READ: CRABTREE COULD RETURN IN NOVEMBER
Once activated off the PUP list, the 49ers have a three-week window to activate the players on to the 53-man roster.
“We’re counting down the days,” Harbaugh said of the possibility of adding quality players to the team’s already deep roster. “We’re counting down the weeks and now down to one week.”
I thought Davis let up on first glance too, but on the replay I think it was more clear that Kaep had under thrown him and missed slightly to the left.
Barrows says the niners/browns have talked about josh Gordon for a second rounder. I'd do that in a heartbeat even with manning ham and Crabtree allegedly coming back. They have picks to burn and I'm guessing Gordon is going to be on an affordable contract at least for another year or two.
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