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Drake Jackson is officially a BUST. He's been placed on reserve/PUP list, ending his 2024 season before it even began.
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49ers place Drake Jackson on reserve/PUP list, ending his season
The San Francisco 49ers have placed defensive end Drake Jackson on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list, effectively ending his 2024 season,...
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Has the PUP rules changed? That used to mean sitting out the start of the season, with preseason IR ending the season.Drake Jackson is officially a BUST. He's been placed on reserve/PUP list, ending his 2024 season before it even began.
49ers place Drake Jackson on reserve/PUP list, ending his season
The San Francisco 49ers have placed defensive end Drake Jackson on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list, effectively ending his 2024 season,...
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I guess I can drop him off my taxi squad nowDrake Jackson is officially a BUST. He's been placed on reserve/PUP list, ending his 2024 season before it even began.
49ers place Drake Jackson on reserve/PUP list, ending his season
The San Francisco 49ers have placed defensive end Drake Jackson on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list, effectively ending his 2024 season,...
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Active PUP vs reserve PUPHas the PUP rules changed? That used to mean sitting out the start of the season, with preseason IR ending the season.Drake Jackson is officially a BUST. He's been placed on reserve/PUP list, ending his 2024 season before it even began.
49ers place Drake Jackson on reserve/PUP list, ending his season
The San Francisco 49ers have placed defensive end Drake Jackson on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list, effectively ending his 2024 season,...
Players on the active/PUP list could be moved to the reserve/PUP list during roster cutdowns. If placed on the reserve/PUP list, a player wouldn't count against the active roster and must sit out the first four games. If a player is placed on the reserve/PUP list before final cutdowns, he will miss the season.
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Nick Wagoner's camp thoughts/observations:
49ers are 13 practices into training camp and heading into their preseason opener tomorrow night. Here's an (overly long) breakdown of what I've seen and heard so far through those sessions with the caveat that it's still a long way to the season opener:
Best and most consistent player (offense): WR Deebo Samuel -- He's not technically in a contract year but he might as well be. Pair that with his desire to breakthrough and help win a Super Bowl and you have the recipe for a highly motivated Deebo. He showed up in excellent shape and has been setting a tone by showing up and being thoroughly engaged nearly every day of camp. Teammates and coaches have noticed and if he can stay healthy, there's an expectation that this will be the best version of Deebo the team has seen since his 2021 tour de force.
Best and most consistent player (defense): CB Deommodore Lenoir -- OK, so Nick Bosa and Fred Warner could be the choice here in perpetuity but let's go with the guy who looks poised to finally elbow his way into the Niners' tier of top guys. Over the past couple of years, Lenoir has ramped up his film study, watching himself, other receivers but also elite corners and studying their every move to try to pick up tips. (Will have more on this soon). He has bounced between nickel and outside but really started coming on last year when he felt comfortable in both spots. He's now dripping with confidence and don't sleep on him being deployed on the blitz. I get the impression the Niners would have liked to sign him to a team friendly deal by now but seems Lenoir is going to bet on himself and his price is only going to rise.
Young player on the rise (offense): RB Jordan Mason -- Mason has tantalized with his potential in the past but never been able to seize a larger role (in part because CMC is the focal point). But Mason looks like he's going to grab the top backup role after investing (literally) in ways to improve when he's doing things other than carry the ball. He's a much improved pass catcher and route runner and he's flashed some dynamic ability picking up the blitz. Given the injuries elsewhere at the position, Mason is setting up to really solidify a spot behind CMC.
Young player on the rise (defense): S Ji'Ayir Brown -- If Brown can make a second-year leap, it would be a massive development for this team given the uncertainty in the safety group. There are signs that is possible as Brown seems to be more comfortable in coverage and not thinking as much. He's always around the ball and never seems to be out of position.
Rookie who could contribute immediately (offense): OL Dominick Puni -- Said this before and will repeat myself: until he's in games it's hard to know how it will translate but Puni handles himself like a veteran. He's never overwhelmed and for someone so tall, he really anchors well in pass pro against bigger, stronger DTs. Wouldn't be surprised if he handles the RG job from the jump but if not, he will be in the lineup at some point in the relatively near future.
Rookie who could contribute immediately (defense): CB Renardo Green -- With Charvarius Ward getting rest here and there coming off core muscle surgery and now Isaac Yiadom dealing with something, Green has gotten A LOT of work with the top defense. He's been working in the slot and outside a la Lenoir and it's been good for him. He's sticky in coverage and very physical. Worth monitoring how he's officiated because he has a tendency to grab but if he gets that figured out, he's a good bet to be CB4 (shoutout MC Gusto), which almost certainly means he's going to play significant snaps at some point this season.
The Brock Purdy part -- An underrated part of Purdy getting a full offseason healthy and with his teammates is how he's been able to embrace a larger leadership role and a louder voice. Brian Griese challenged him to do that in the spring and it's been apparent on the field. This is Purdy's team and teammates have taken notice. One prominent player recently marveled to me at how Purdy has been throwing it in this camp and another on the defensive side said this is the best Purdy they've seen since he's been here. Niners are clearly expecting another step forward for the young QB.
Others who look improved:
LB Dee Winters - Would like to see him get the first chance with the top defense to be LB3 since they seem set on DeVondre Campbell as LB2. His speed jumps off the field and he looks like he's more comfortable trusting his instincts and thinking less.
DT Jordan Elliott - He wasn't here last year but he's already one of the strongest guys on the team and has Kris Kocurek invoking the name of DJ Jones as a potential comparison for him. Would like to see him with the 1s more to get a better look but he's handled backups consistently.
LB Jalen Graham - He's big, physical and fast and he's taken well to the middle 'backer position. Problem is, it's hard to get on the field as a backup MIKE here. Would think he can play SAM and though he's done it a bit, wouldn't mind seeing more of it. He plays with an edge and I've maintained that if and when there's scuffles during this camp, there's a good chance he's involved because, like Warner, his style can get under the skin of the offense.
OT Jaylon Moore - Nobody is saying Moore is Trent Williams but he's had a solid camp and even Bosa has taken notice. In the past two days, saw Bosa beat him with a spin move one day then try it again the next with Moore ready for it in one on one pass rush drills. That's the kind of thing that camp is for. There's a legit argument to be made that Moore has been the best tackle on the field in this camp. Ideally, he can be a more polished and trustworthy swing tackle in 2024.
WR Ronnie Bell - Bell has really come on over the past week with so many other WRs dealing with injuries. He could really help his cause by proving more trustworthy as a returner but his steps forward playing WR have been evident. A real shot to win a roster spot either way but special teams improvement could cement that.
Some lingering questions:
- The Brandon Aiyuk situation - Obviously, this is looming over everything right now. Barring some major, unforeseen offer, it's hard to see how the Niners will be better trading their best pure WR in August. And if it's just for 2025 picks that can't be flipped into an impact player from elsewhere, it's flat out malpractice. Logic and common sense could still prevail but if it doesn't, the Niners will likely be worse if Aiyuk isn't here in 2024. Players insist that Aiyuk's situation hasn't been a distraction but it's hard to imagine that having it in the building every day (and not a hold out where it's out of sight, out of mind) isn't at least a little bit of an issue. And if Aiyuk is traded for something that doesn't help a team desperate to win a Super Bowl right away, it's also fair to wonder how THAT would go over in this locker room.
- The Trent Williams situation - This feels more like Bosa last year where there's an inevitability to it getting resolved. It's a bit difficult because of Williams' age and figuring out how to slice up guarantees for someone who could retire at some point soon. But it also doesn't feel like Williams minds missing a chunk of training camp at this point in his career. Seems to be optimism still that this will work out.
- Do the Niners have enough pass rush? - Bosa looks poised for a big bounce back year. Javon Hargrave is in good shape and has been pretty consistent winning his rush attempts. But there are questions elsewhere. DT Maliek Collins has had some good moments and flashed that ability but hasn't showed up as consistently. DE Leonard Floyd is about as you'd expect. He doesn't have a deep bag of pass rush moves but his durability, speed, bend and relentless approach helps him be effective. That starting group should have success but there's not a ton of proven production after that, especially from the edge. Perhaps Robert Beal Jr., who has flashed occasionally can continue to ascend. Yetur Gross-Matos has been very strong against the run but the hope is he will be able to play the Arden Key/Charles Omenihu role by rushing from the inside. Again, there have been signs of this but still need to see it translate in games.
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49ers are 13 practices into training camp and heading into their preseason opener tomorrow night. Here's an (overly long) breakdown of what I've seen and heard so far through those sessions with the caveat that it's still a long way to the season opener:
Best and most consistent player (offense): WR Deebo Samuel -- He's not technically in a contract year but he might as well be. Pair that with his desire to breakthrough and help win a Super Bowl and you have the recipe for a highly motivated Deebo. He showed up in excellent shape and has been setting a tone by showing up and being thoroughly engaged nearly every day of camp. Teammates and coaches have noticed and if he can stay healthy, there's an expectation that this will be the best version of Deebo the team has seen since his 2021 tour de force.
Best and most consistent player (defense): CB Deommodore Lenoir -- OK, so Nick Bosa and Fred Warner could be the choice here in perpetuity but let's go with the guy who looks poised to finally elbow his way into the Niners' tier of top guys. Over the past couple of years, Lenoir has ramped up his film study, watching himself, other receivers but also elite corners and studying their every move to try to pick up tips. (Will have more on this soon). He has bounced between nickel and outside but really started coming on last year when he felt comfortable in both spots. He's now dripping with confidence and don't sleep on him being deployed on the blitz. I get the impression the Niners would have liked to sign him to a team friendly deal by now but seems Lenoir is going to bet on himself and his price is only going to rise.
Young player on the rise (offense): RB Jordan Mason -- Mason has tantalized with his potential in the past but never been able to seize a larger role (in part because CMC is the focal point). But Mason looks like he's going to grab the top backup role after investing (literally) in ways to improve when he's doing things other than carry the ball. He's a much improved pass catcher and route runner and he's flashed some dynamic ability picking up the blitz. Given the injuries elsewhere at the position, Mason is setting up to really solidify a spot behind CMC.
Young player on the rise (defense): S Ji'Ayir Brown -- If Brown can make a second-year leap, it would be a massive development for this team given the uncertainty in the safety group. There are signs that is possible as Brown seems to be more comfortable in coverage and not thinking as much. He's always around the ball and never seems to be out of position.
Rookie who could contribute immediately (offense): OL Dominick Puni -- Said this before and will repeat myself: until he's in games it's hard to know how it will translate but Puni handles himself like a veteran. He's never overwhelmed and for someone so tall, he really anchors well in pass pro against bigger, stronger DTs. Wouldn't be surprised if he handles the RG job from the jump but if not, he will be in the lineup at some point in the relatively near future.
Rookie who could contribute immediately (defense): CB Renardo Green -- With Charvarius Ward getting rest here and there coming off core muscle surgery and now Isaac Yiadom dealing with something, Green has gotten A LOT of work with the top defense. He's been working in the slot and outside a la Lenoir and it's been good for him. He's sticky in coverage and very physical. Worth monitoring how he's officiated because he has a tendency to grab but if he gets that figured out, he's a good bet to be CB4 (shoutout MC Gusto), which almost certainly means he's going to play significant snaps at some point this season.
The Brock Purdy part -- An underrated part of Purdy getting a full offseason healthy and with his teammates is how he's been able to embrace a larger leadership role and a louder voice. Brian Griese challenged him to do that in the spring and it's been apparent on the field. This is Purdy's team and teammates have taken notice. One prominent player recently marveled to me at how Purdy has been throwing it in this camp and another on the defensive side said this is the best Purdy they've seen since he's been here. Niners are clearly expecting another step forward for the young QB.
Others who look improved:
LB Dee Winters - Would like to see him get the first chance with the top defense to be LB3 since they seem set on DeVondre Campbell as LB2. His speed jumps off the field and he looks like he's more comfortable trusting his instincts and thinking less.
DT Jordan Elliott - He wasn't here last year but he's already one of the strongest guys on the team and has Kris Kocurek invoking the name of DJ Jones as a potential comparison for him. Would like to see him with the 1s more to get a better look but he's handled backups consistently.
LB Jalen Graham - He's big, physical and fast and he's taken well to the middle 'backer position. Problem is, it's hard to get on the field as a backup MIKE here. Would think he can play SAM and though he's done it a bit, wouldn't mind seeing more of it. He plays with an edge and I've maintained that if and when there's scuffles during this camp, there's a good chance he's involved because, like Warner, his style can get under the skin of the offense.
OT Jaylon Moore - Nobody is saying Moore is Trent Williams but he's had a solid camp and even Bosa has taken notice. In the past two days, saw Bosa beat him with a spin move one day then try it again the next with Moore ready for it in one on one pass rush drills. That's the kind of thing that camp is for. There's a legit argument to be made that Moore has been the best tackle on the field in this camp. Ideally, he can be a more polished and trustworthy swing tackle in 2024.
WR Ronnie Bell - Bell has really come on over the past week with so many other WRs dealing with injuries. He could really help his cause by proving more trustworthy as a returner but his steps forward playing WR have been evident. A real shot to win a roster spot either way but special teams improvement could cement that.
Some lingering questions:
- The Brandon Aiyuk situation - Obviously, this is looming over everything right now. Barring some major, unforeseen offer, it's hard to see how the Niners will be better trading their best pure WR in August. And if it's just for 2025 picks that can't be flipped into an impact player from elsewhere, it's flat out malpractice. Logic and common sense could still prevail but if it doesn't, the Niners will likely be worse if Aiyuk isn't here in 2024. Players insist that Aiyuk's situation hasn't been a distraction but it's hard to imagine that having it in the building every day (and not a hold out where it's out of sight, out of mind) isn't at least a little bit of an issue. And if Aiyuk is traded for something that doesn't help a team desperate to win a Super Bowl right away, it's also fair to wonder how THAT would go over in this locker room.
- The Trent Williams situation - This feels more like Bosa last year where there's an inevitability to it getting resolved. It's a bit difficult because of Williams' age and figuring out how to slice up guarantees for someone who could retire at some point soon. But it also doesn't feel like Williams minds missing a chunk of training camp at this point in his career. Seems to be optimism still that this will work out.
- Do the Niners have enough pass rush? - Bosa looks poised for a big bounce back year. Javon Hargrave is in good shape and has been pretty consistent winning his rush attempts. But there are questions elsewhere. DT Maliek Collins has had some good moments and flashed that ability but hasn't showed up as consistently. DE Leonard Floyd is about as you'd expect. He doesn't have a deep bag of pass rush moves but his durability, speed, bend and relentless approach helps him be effective. That starting group should have success but there's not a ton of proven production after that, especially from the edge. Perhaps Robert Beal Jr., who has flashed occasionally can continue to ascend. Yetur Gross-Matos has been very strong against the run but the hope is he will be able to play the Arden Key/Charles Omenihu role by rushing from the inside. Again, there have been signs of this but still need to see it translate in games.
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Nick Wagoner (continued from previous post)
- How will safety shake out? - Everything has pointed toward a Brown/Talanoa Hufanga pairing once Hufanga returns. That is probably still the case as Hufanga could begin practicing as soon as next week. In the meantime, George Odum has made a lot of plays in practice, as I've had him down for multiple interceptions. Some of those have been right place, right time things. There's something to be said for being where you're supposed to be, though. Still, Odum's greatest value is as a special teams leader and a solid backup. Not many players breakthrough into impactful defenders at his age but it should give the Niners some solace to know they have him around as Malik Mustapha continues to develop. Much hinges on how Hufanga looks upon return.
- Is the offensive line better, worse or the same? - No way to answer this now other than to say it will definitely be worse if Williams isn't there. Assuming that works out, the Niners have the chance to run it back with the same starting five as last year. Continuity is most important here so a step forward would be notable but I'd also argue if Puni can win the job, it would be a good sign because it would mean he played well enough to elbow that continuity aside. The injuries in this group have also complicated things. Jon Feliciano is a reliable guy to have for the interior spots but hasn't been available much. Nick Zakelj and Ben Bartch seem to be battling for another interior backup role and rookie Jarrett Kingston is intriguing but has had to be all over the place because of other injuries rather than working at guard. Chris Hubbard or Brandon Parker should be fine as a fourth OT.
Quick hits:
- Backup QB has been a VERY important position for this team in recent years. Brandon Allen has the experience while Josh Dobbs has more improvisational skills. Expect both to stick on the roster but PS games should help determine who is QB2 and who is QB3.
- George Kittle still looks like one of the best TEs in the league but jury remains out on the depth behind him.
- This is the deepest CB room the Niners have had under Kyle Shanahan. Rock Ya-Sin has come on strong recently.
- Late round or undrafted rookies who have made an impression: RB Cody Schrader, LB Tatum Bethune, OL Drake Nugent. Might be hard to crack the 53 but all three should at least be coveted for practice squad spots.
- Returning players who might have an uphill climb to win a roster spot: CB Ambry Thomas, WR Danny Gray, Zakelj, CB Samuel Womack
- Trent Taylor and Chris Conley have had nice camps. Much will depend on how things shake out with Aiyuk but either or both of these guys would be ideal veteran practice squad guys. Taylor could stick because he's easily the most reliable punt returner right now.
- Hard to have a read on rookie WRs Ricky Pearsall and Jacob Cowing right now because of injuries. Pearsall has flashed but Niners can't feel comfortable entrusting him with a huge role just yet because he hasn't been able to show it on the field consistently.
- All in all, this camp has been a bit of a strange one. Partially because of the looming contract stuff. Also in part because it's hard to avoid the idea that what happens in January/February is all that really matters for this team, which makes camp simply an exercise in trying to make it to the season relatively healthy. There have been plenty of very competitive practices but they haven't been as chippy or intense as the past. That doesn't necessarily mean anything but it's worth noting. Some believe that the "vibes" are off right now and though I can see why that's being said, I can't say I have a great read on that right now when we aren't in the locker room to really talk to guys and get a feel for it. It's safe to say that getting the contract stuff figured out one way or the other would be beneficial for all involved. And again, there's a LONG way to go to the season so it's reasonable to think a team that has played deep into the postseason so often the past five years will ratchet things up to another level as the real games draw closer.
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- How will safety shake out? - Everything has pointed toward a Brown/Talanoa Hufanga pairing once Hufanga returns. That is probably still the case as Hufanga could begin practicing as soon as next week. In the meantime, George Odum has made a lot of plays in practice, as I've had him down for multiple interceptions. Some of those have been right place, right time things. There's something to be said for being where you're supposed to be, though. Still, Odum's greatest value is as a special teams leader and a solid backup. Not many players breakthrough into impactful defenders at his age but it should give the Niners some solace to know they have him around as Malik Mustapha continues to develop. Much hinges on how Hufanga looks upon return.
- Is the offensive line better, worse or the same? - No way to answer this now other than to say it will definitely be worse if Williams isn't there. Assuming that works out, the Niners have the chance to run it back with the same starting five as last year. Continuity is most important here so a step forward would be notable but I'd also argue if Puni can win the job, it would be a good sign because it would mean he played well enough to elbow that continuity aside. The injuries in this group have also complicated things. Jon Feliciano is a reliable guy to have for the interior spots but hasn't been available much. Nick Zakelj and Ben Bartch seem to be battling for another interior backup role and rookie Jarrett Kingston is intriguing but has had to be all over the place because of other injuries rather than working at guard. Chris Hubbard or Brandon Parker should be fine as a fourth OT.
Quick hits:
- Backup QB has been a VERY important position for this team in recent years. Brandon Allen has the experience while Josh Dobbs has more improvisational skills. Expect both to stick on the roster but PS games should help determine who is QB2 and who is QB3.
- George Kittle still looks like one of the best TEs in the league but jury remains out on the depth behind him.
- This is the deepest CB room the Niners have had under Kyle Shanahan. Rock Ya-Sin has come on strong recently.
- Late round or undrafted rookies who have made an impression: RB Cody Schrader, LB Tatum Bethune, OL Drake Nugent. Might be hard to crack the 53 but all three should at least be coveted for practice squad spots.
- Returning players who might have an uphill climb to win a roster spot: CB Ambry Thomas, WR Danny Gray, Zakelj, CB Samuel Womack
- Trent Taylor and Chris Conley have had nice camps. Much will depend on how things shake out with Aiyuk but either or both of these guys would be ideal veteran practice squad guys. Taylor could stick because he's easily the most reliable punt returner right now.
- Hard to have a read on rookie WRs Ricky Pearsall and Jacob Cowing right now because of injuries. Pearsall has flashed but Niners can't feel comfortable entrusting him with a huge role just yet because he hasn't been able to show it on the field consistently.
- All in all, this camp has been a bit of a strange one. Partially because of the looming contract stuff. Also in part because it's hard to avoid the idea that what happens in January/February is all that really matters for this team, which makes camp simply an exercise in trying to make it to the season relatively healthy. There have been plenty of very competitive practices but they haven't been as chippy or intense as the past. That doesn't necessarily mean anything but it's worth noting. Some believe that the "vibes" are off right now and though I can see why that's being said, I can't say I have a great read on that right now when we aren't in the locker room to really talk to guys and get a feel for it. It's safe to say that getting the contract stuff figured out one way or the other would be beneficial for all involved. And again, there's a LONG way to go to the season so it's reasonable to think a team that has played deep into the postseason so often the past five years will ratchet things up to another level as the real games draw closer.
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How has Jake Moody been so far?
Wingnut
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Last I saw, a few days ago, he was 27 of 30 in camp.
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Well well....cooler heads prevailing....
49ers restart contract talks with Brandon Aiyuk after meeting with Kyle Shanahan.
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49ers restart contract talks with Brandon Aiyuk after meeting with Kyle Shanahan.
Report: 49ers restart contract talks with Brandon Aiyuk after meeting with Kyle Shanahan
There's renewed hope for wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk's return to the San Francisco 49ers. Multiple reports state that the team has resumed negotiations on a...
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Logan Thomas being released is kinda shocking. I thought he was gonna easily be the TE2, thought Shanahan could do a lot with a 6-6 guy who runs a 4.6, with 4 years as a starter. Don't often see a TE coming off a 55-catch season get cut in camp.
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Steelers still in play for Aiyuk.
Report: 49ers asking price includes a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
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Report: 49ers asking price includes a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
Why Aiyuk, 49ers might have no choice but to work out extension
If the 49ers were unable to work out a Brandon Aiyuk trade, the last resort always was for the star wide receiver to return to San Francisco. And that appears to be where things are headed.
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Same. I was actually in a BB TEP draft about a week ago and where I had Kittle and on a 20 man roster with no waivers and TEP and in this format I hate leaving tje draft with only two live bodies at TE for the entire season. Almost every TE I was targetting I kept coming up short on and got down to last two picks and I was mulling just grabbing Logan Thomas and cuffing Kittle so I'd go a long way to at least insuring I had a TE each week. Luckily they left me a halfway decent option, would have been feeling silly right now.
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Mason looking real good on that first drive with 5.7ypc and a td.
Puni looked good too.
Interesting that for the 1st time in his head coaching career, Shanahan is not calling plays - Klay Kibiak is. I'd love it if we had an actual OC play caller, but it ain't happening in the reg season IMO. Kyle's ego won't allow it.
Puni looked good too.
Interesting that for the 1st time in his head coaching career, Shanahan is not calling plays - Klay Kibiak is. I'd love it if we had an actual OC play caller, but it ain't happening in the reg season IMO. Kyle's ego won't allow it.
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49ers cancel joint practices with Saints due to high number of injuries
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49ers cancel joint practices with Saints amid mounting injuries
According to Matt Barrows of the Athletic, the San Francisco 49ers have canceled their upcoming joint practices with the New Orleans Saints due to the...
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49ers cancel joint practices with Saints due to high number of injuries
49ers cancel joint practices with Saints amid mounting injuries
According to Matt Barrows of the Athletic, the San Francisco 49ers have canceled their upcoming joint practices with the New Orleans Saints due to the...
If you don't like this, you don't like 49ers football!
Seriously though, I swear this is an every-year thing. Are we pushing too hard in practice, not enough? Is it time to just start over with our medical training staff? Are coaches just overly cautious? Admittedly, it may also be an every-team thing, and since I just hyper-focus on 9ers, I'm just missing the same injury reports for other teams. Does every fan feel like their team is _always_ hurt?
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Kalia Davis, who had a good game Saturday, is out for half the season with a knee injury. Right when it looked like he could become a nice rotational guy, this.
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49ers injury updates: Kalia Davis to undergo knee surgery, expected to miss half the season
San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan provided several injury updates on Monday as the team began preparations for their second preseason game. The...
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Rapoport:
Update on Brandon Aiyuk:
-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.
-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.
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Update on Brandon Aiyuk:
-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.
-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.
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Robbie Anderson was like 3 identities ago.
Wingnut
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And like anyone on earth would think, let alone say something that stupid.
BassNBrew
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Please stop posting fake news.Rapoport:
Update on Brandon Aiyuk:
-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.
-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.
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The 49ers are signing former Chargers DT Nick Williams to a one year deal.
Entering year 12, Williams provides some key depth for the 49ers coming off a year with 2 FR & 1 Sack. Williams has Brandon Staley ties. He was with Chicago when Staley was there and then with the Chargers when Staley was there.
Fills the Kalia Davis role.
Entering year 12, Williams provides some key depth for the 49ers coming off a year with 2 FR & 1 Sack. Williams has Brandon Staley ties. He was with Chicago when Staley was there and then with the Chargers when Staley was there.
Fills the Kalia Davis role.
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Reportedly Aiyuk was not only at practice yesterday, but he was spotted working off to the side with Pearsall.
Divine from that what you will. Probably nothing.
Divine from that what you will. Probably nothing.
Wingnut
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Matt Barrows:
We hadn't seen much from rookie WR Jacob Cowing until recently (he had a hammy issue). But he had a couple of nice practices this past week and has now caught three passes on three targets for a team-best 43 yards in the 1st half vs the Saints.
Edit: he's getting work in the 2nd half too and looks good.
We hadn't seen much from rookie WR Jacob Cowing until recently (he had a hammy issue). But he had a couple of nice practices this past week and has now caught three passes on three targets for a team-best 43 yards in the 1st half vs the Saints.
Edit: he's getting work in the 2nd half too and looks good.
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@Hot Sauce Guy why the sad emoji? It's good news lol
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Miss-click. Lol
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Rookie CB Renardo Green making a case for significant week 1 role:
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
49ers rookie corner Green making case for significant Week 1 role
Rookie cornerback Renardo Green has an opportunity to earn a significant role on the 49ers’ defense.
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
Wingnut
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It's early to judge this years draft class, but so far it looks like they had a solid draft from top to bottom.
Pearsall, Green, Mustapha, Cowing, and Puni could all contribute this season. Even 7th round pick LB Tatum Bethune had made some noise.
When's the last time we had several rookies get a good amount of playing time? I'm liking what I'm seeing so far, and we haven't even seen Pearsall in game action yet.
Pearsall, Green, Mustapha, Cowing, and Puni could all contribute this season. Even 7th round pick LB Tatum Bethune had made some noise.
When's the last time we had several rookies get a good amount of playing time? I'm liking what I'm seeing so far, and we haven't even seen Pearsall in game action yet.
Yeah, looks good at this point, especially if Pearsall can get back on the field. Really liked the Green, Puni and Mustapha picks on draft day. All tough guy types.
I know this has been discussed before, but worth bringing up again. What is the disconnect on their top picks? Obviously, Shanahan/Lynch are smart football people, but I honestly, without a doubt believe I could have done better drafting in the first round than they have been and I'm not a draft nerd who watches film, etc. It makes no sense. I know teams blow draft picks, but this has been off the charts bad.
2017 Soloman Thomas Bust and hated the pick at the time. Rueben Foster was also a bust after they traded up to get him
2018 Mike McGlinchey Meh. Not a bust but not worth the #9 overall pick. Did not like the pick
2019 Nick Bosa Home Run but kind of a no-brainer after the Cards took Kyler
2020 Javon Kinlaw and Brandon Aiyuk 1 bust and 1 hit. Took Kinlaw when Wirfs fell and he was just sitting there for the taking and instead they trade down and grab a DL with an injury
2021 Lance Super Bust. Hated the trade up. Hated the pick
2022 None due to Lance Trade. Drake Jackson in the 2nd round Bust. Was OK with the pick. Injuries make it too hard to criticize
2023 None due to Lance Trade. No picks until comp picks in 3rd round
2024 Ricky Pearsall TBD. Hated the pick on draft night, but OK with it the more I read about him
That is all
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Wingnut
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49ers WR Ricky Pearsall won't practice this week, which means that he also won't see any preseason action in his rookie season.
Seems unlikely that Pearsall will be active Week 1. He's made nice plays in training camp but the shoulder injury has cost him valuable reps.
So our week 1 WR Corp could be Deebo, Conley, Jennings, Cowing, Taylor and Bell.
Seems unlikely that Pearsall will be active Week 1. He's made nice plays in training camp but the shoulder injury has cost him valuable reps.
So our week 1 WR Corp could be Deebo, Conley, Jennings, Cowing, Taylor and Bell.
The inability to get Aiyuk and Williams in camp at this point is an abject failure on the part of the front office. They maybe had one more year of title contention runway this year, and there's a very strong chance they've blown it. Even if those guys sign today I'm betting they underperform all year.
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It's makes zero sense how they've handled both. They have the money, the cap guru, and they've had plenty of time to get things done and not have these distractions going into the last week of preseason. They look like buffoons.
This is the least excited I've been for a season in the Shanahan era. I think they'll make the playoffs but so many things have to go right just to make the Super Bowl, I'm not betting on them being NFC Champs again.
The window is definitely closing IMO.
I'm optimistic, but he ended up with the job by default since Feliciano and Burford have been hurt all of camp.John Lynch confirmed that rookie Dominick Puni has earned the starting Right Guard spot on KNBR.
One of their biggest weaknesses has been upgraded.
Wingnut
Footballguy
WTF
www.ninersnation.com
49ers aware of Ricky Pearsall's shoulder issue before drafting him
Report: 49ers WR Ricky Pearsall had shoulder injury prior to draft
According to Mike Silver, the Niners were betting on a recovery that hasn’t come to fruition.
www.ninersnation.com
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Wingnut
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True, but he's looked great all camp and in preseason. I think he takes the job and never looks back.I'm optimistic, but he ended up with the job by default since Feliciano and Burford have been hurt all of camp.John Lynch confirmed that rookie Dominick Puni has earned the starting Right Guard spot on KNBR.
One of their biggest weaknesses has been upgraded.
Will they ever learn?WTF
49ers aware of Ricky Pearsall's shoulder issue before drafting him
Report: 49ers WR Ricky Pearsall had shoulder injury prior to draft
According to Mike Silver, the Niners were betting on a recovery that hasn’t come to fruition.
Did the same thing with Foster in 2017 and Kinlaw in 2020.
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farfromforgotten
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“We can fix him!”’- Lynch and Shanahan, probablyWill the ever learn?WTF
49ers aware of Ricky Pearsall's shoulder issue before drafting him
Report: 49ers WR Ricky Pearsall had shoulder injury prior to draft
According to Mike Silver, the Niners were betting on a recovery that hasn’t come to fruition.
Did the same thing with Foster in 2017 and Kinlaw in 2020.
Ha. That philosophy is more understandable in the later rounds but hate it in the first. So many good players still available that are actually healthy.“We can fix him!”’- Lynch and Shanahan, probablyWill the ever learn?WTF
49ers aware of Ricky Pearsall's shoulder issue before drafting him
Report: 49ers WR Ricky Pearsall had shoulder injury prior to draft
According to Mike Silver, the Niners were betting on a recovery that hasn’t come to fruition.
Did the same thing with Foster in 2017 and Kinlaw in 2020.
