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*** San Francisco 49ers *** Official thread (12 Viewers)

#49ers’ DVOA (thru Week 10):

Total: #5
Offense: #3
Defense: #4
Special Teams: #31

Only team with a Top-5 offense AND defense? Lions and 49ers.

49ers become a real serious contender if they work out their red zone and special teams’ issues.

 
How likely is it that Deebo is not in SF next season? I am in a keeper league and have a chance to acquire Aiyuk from a team looking to win now. I would be interested in Aiyuk if he is going to be on SF without Deebo in 2025. I also understand Aiyuk suffered a nasty injury that has a long recovery period but I am really trying to understand the Deebo part of the situation. Anyone have any insights on how 2025 might look at WR for SF?
 
I'd guess less than 50%.

I think that would be a poor allocation of resources to give Deebo the kind of money he's going to want.
The 49ers have a couple of very nice WR's coming up.
 
How likely is it that Deebo is not in SF next season? I am in a keeper league and have a chance to acquire Aiyuk from a team looking to win now. I would be interested in Aiyuk if he is going to be on SF without Deebo in 2025. I also understand Aiyuk suffered a nasty injury that has a long recovery period but I am really trying to understand the Deebo part of the situation. Anyone have any insights on how 2025 might look at WR for SF?
I haven't seen any good reporting on the details of his contract renegotiation that took place before the season. Before that restructure, his contract wasn't guaranteed for next year and he was a logical candidate to be waived. It's unclear if he is now guaranteed so much money that waiving him doesn't generate a lot of cap space.
 
Lombardi:

49ers went from having no proven CBs under contract beyond 2024 to having:

-Deommodore Lenoir as a top-10 CB on a long-term deal

-Rookie Renardo Green as the #2 graded CB in NFL, looking at a promising future

2024 has built the future of the CB room in real time
 
Hell yeah!

49ers sign CB Deommodore Lenoir to a 5-year, $92 million extension

Sweet Potato Pie!

So glad to see this happen. He's a baller

Hopefully, they can keep Mooney Ward too
Think this solidifies that Ward is gone but who knows.
 
Another drafted kicker issue.


With P Mitch Wishnowsky dealing with a back injury, the #49ers are adding P Pat O’Donnell to the practice squad for additional depth.

Kyle Shanahan said Monday that Wishnowsky would be monitored as week goes on. Clearly, Niners operating as though he could miss time.


O’Donnell punted with the Chicago Bears from 2015 through 2021. In 2022, he was with the Green Bay Packers. During his career, he averaged 45.1 yards per punt. In 2022, O’Donell’s 44.5-yard average ranked 29th in the league.

I'd rather they sign Pressley Harvin III, he looked really good in preseason when we had him.
 
49ers anticipated practice report for today, per Kyle Shanahan:

DNP - CB Charvarius Ward (personal), TE George Kittle (hamstring), P Mitch Wishnowsky (back), DT Kevin Givens (groin), DE Nick Bosa (hip), OT Trent Williams (ankle/rest)

Limited - RB Christian McCaffrey (Achilles), WR Chris Conley (hamstring), OL Jon Feliciano (knee)


- Shanahan says there isn’t much concern about Kittle’s availability this week. He’s expecting Kittle to practice in some capacity on Thursday.

- Shanahan said McCaffrey did not have a flare up with the Achilles. He said the limited status is part of the planned maintenance of the issue.

- Bosa is unlikely to practice much at all this week, noting that it "will be close" in terms of being able to play against Seattle. He said last week was the most pain he's played through in a game in his career.
 
Kittle back at practice

CMC is practicing 2nd day in a row

Trent Williams not practicing for 2nd day in a row (ankle)

Bosa not practicing again today (hip)

Kevin Givens still out, unlikely to play Sunday

Yetur Gross-Matos looks on track to be activated for Sundays game
 
How likely is it that Deebo is not in SF next season? I am in a keeper league and have a chance to acquire Aiyuk from a team looking to win now. I would be interested in Aiyuk if he is going to be on SF without Deebo in 2025. I also understand Aiyuk suffered a nasty injury that has a long recovery period but I am really trying to understand the Deebo part of the situation. Anyone have any insights on how 2025 might look at WR for SF?
I haven't seen any good reporting on the details of his contract renegotiation that took place before the season. Before that restructure, his contract wasn't guaranteed for next year and he was a logical candidate to be waived. It's unclear if he is now guaranteed so much money that waiving him doesn't generate a lot of cap space.


I'd say it's highly likely that Deebo is a 49er in 2025. No real cap benefits to cut/trade him.
 
Nick Bosa (hip) is practicing today after missing the last two days,

Trent Williams is not practicing. He hasnt practiced all week

Jennings was at practice, but its unclear if he was limited. Lombardi and Barrows both say he is good to go Sunday.

Wishnowski might be going to IR
 
WR Jauan Jennings (ankle) was a FULL participant in practice today after being limited yesterday. He has no injury designation and is good to go for Sunday.

HC Kyle Shanahan on LT Trent Williams (ankle) availability for Sunday:

"He’s been hurting all week and thought he’d be able to go today. He couldn’t. Hopefully he’ll be better tomorrow and good to go but we’ll have all the way up to kickoff for him."

Full injury report:

OUT
Kevin Givens
Charvarius Ward
Mitch Wishnowsky

DOUBTFUL
Darrell Luter

QUESTIONABLE
Aaron Banks
Nick Bosa
Jon Feliciano
Yetur Gross-Matos
George Kittle
Trent Williams
 
The San Francisco 49ers have announced the following roster moves ahead of Sunday's rematch with the Seattle Seahawks:

  • DL Yetur Gross-Matos has been activated from IR (injured reserve)

  • P Mitch Wishnowsky has been placed on IR

  • P Pat O'Donnell has been promoted to the active roster

  • S Tashaun Gipson has been elevated from the team's practice squad (standard elevation)

  • CB Nick McCloud has been elevated from the practice squad (standard elevation)

  • Placed CB Darrell Luter, Jr. on IR
 
I'm curious to know how many games the team with the most talent in the nfl has to lose before some recognize that KS is garbage

I also would like to see how those people that thought getting cmc back and the 49ers always start slow feel now.
 
Watching the playoffs this season without getting all stressed out might be a nice change.

It was a run, guys! It was a run.
 
Watching the playoffs this season without getting all stressed out might be a nice change.

It was a run, guys! It was a run.

Yea too bad they sold the future out with these huge contracts for old dead weight and absolutely garbage drafting
 
Watching the playoffs this season without getting all stressed out might be a nice change.

It was a run, guys! It was a run.

Yea too bad they sold the future out with these huge contracts for old dead weight and absolutely garbage drafting
I’m good with keeping Brock, he deserves a contract. Wasn’t thrilled with the Aiyuk contract, especially after using the 1st rounder on a WR.

But it’s rebuild mode. I’ll take a season or 2 of sub 500 ball if it also means KS is gone.
 
Watching the playoffs this season without getting all stressed out might be a nice change.

It was a run, guys! It was a run.

Yea too bad they sold the future out with these huge contracts for old dead weight and absolutely garbage drafting
I’m good with keeping Brock, he deserves a contract. Wasn’t thrilled with the Aiyuk contract, especially after using the 1st rounder on a WR.

But it’s rebuild mode. I’ll take a season or 2 of sub 500 ball if it also means KS is gone.

How can it be a rebuild?

They have huge money tied up in a handful of guys

They need to clean house in the off-season
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2022 against LAR. I’ll let 2023 slide since we had no QB, but that’s on them really for not having a competent backup).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag.
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2022 against LAR. I’ll let 2023 slide since we had no QB, but that’s on them really for not having a competent backup).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag.

At this point KS not being able to close is his M.O
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.

Outside Warner the lbs are garbage, the oline is garbage, dline is garbage, cmc is too old, kittle almost done, db's are soft
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.
Setting yourself up for heartbreak. Hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.

Outside Warner the lbs are garbage, the oline is garbage, dline is garbage, cmc is too old, kittle almost done, db's are soft
They lined up and ran the same defense every play of that final drive (without Bosa nonetheless) except once where they brought pressure from the nickel. Add the DC to your list. Secondary had been the weakness for most of the stretch of success, but I don’t think they’re currently the weak link.
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.
Setting yourself up for heartbreak. Hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
I’m not particularly optimistic about it happening. It’s going to require some amazing work from the front office that has been continuously raided for talent over the last five years. But it’s possible. They are in exponentially better shape than they were when Harbaugh left.
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.

Outside Warner the lbs are garbage, the oline is garbage, dline is garbage, cmc is too old, kittle almost done, db's are soft
Ok man
 
They are another strong draft or two from being a title contender again. They don’t need to rip it down to the studs but yeah, they need young talent in the trenches again.
Trent prob getting ready to hang it up and CMC is starting to have a lot of tread on those tires. We didn’t close when we had the chances in 2020 or 2024 (or 2023 against LAR).

It’s over, feels like we’re getting ready to start the Jim Tomisula era all over again. I would’ve forgiven KS for 10 years had he just closed out once, but nope, forget that arrogant smug ****bag
Strongly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent here still. They need an OT and a couple of young studs on the DL. It’s not inconceivable to even get those guys in the same draft like the Rams did this year.

Outside Warner the lbs are garbage, the oline is garbage, dline is garbage, cmc is too old, kittle almost done, db's are soft
They lined up and ran the same defense every play of that final drive (without Bosa nonetheless) except once where they brought pressure from the nickel. Add the DC to your list. Secondary had been the weakness for most of the stretch of success, but I don’t think they’re currently the weak link.

Agreed

Hard to tell because there is many weak links and the coaching is awful
 
Well that’s about a wrap for the season.
Is it really a wrap?
1 game back and 6 weeks to go, let's stay in reality
It was a tough loss, we get it, doesn't feel anything like the years you all rise up and go to the NFCC and even hold leads in Super Bowls vs the Chiefs
Wrap you say, if any team can shake this off and get hot late, what the hell do y'all care how you crawl into the Playoffs
This team is battle tested and Detroit is sealing up the 1-seed but guess what, you all are one of the few teams that beat them and you did it on their turf did you not?

Have a little optimism, George
Cheers!
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
You guys are certifiably nuts. I’m going to opt out of relitigating this.
I just think we've seen his ceiling as HC with this team. He gets close but can't close the deal.

Things I don't like:

He won't hire an OC/play caller because he thinks hes smarter than everyone (and his play calling in crunch time has never been applauded), he refuses to invest in the OL, he oesn't give a rats *** about special teams, is known for blowing 4th quarter leads, won't give players like Cowing a shot (even though we need a deep threat) because he doesn't think he's ready with his blocking or route running? Send him on go routes and see what happens for F sake. It can't hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts losing the locker room if we keep collecting L's.
 
I suppose we could still win the division but I'd bet the farm on a one and done should we make it into the tournament.
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
Look at the teams that cycle thru recycled **** at Head Coach, look at Dougie P right now and then TLaw can work with his 4th HC before his 5th NFL season
Marino played almost his entire career with Shula and then had to suck it up for 3-4 seasons with Jimmy Johnson but he had consistency when he was young
KS made Purdy, you don't want to bring in a new coach, you'll be wishing for a new QB and Purdy is getting paid A LOT this coming off season or he won't be on the field next year
How far do you want to strip it bare halfway thru a season where you're coming off a 25-22 loss in the Super Bowl, how much liquor we drinking over there , and when can I join you? :lol:
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
You guys are certifiably nuts. I’m going to opt out of relitigating this.
I just think we've seen his ceiling as HC with this team. He gets close but can't close the deal.

Things I don't like:

He won't hire an OC/play caller because he thinks hes smarter than everyone (and his play calling in crunch time has never been applauded), he refuses to invest in the OL, he oesn't give a rats *** about special teams, is known for blowing 4th quarter leads, won't give players like Cowing a shot (even though we need a deep threat) because he doesn't think he's ready with his blocking or route running? Send him on go routes and see what happens for F sake. It can't hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts losing the locker room if we keep collecting L's.
The only thing that will doom the franchise for the foreseeable future would be firing Kyle.
 
49ers remaining schedule:

@ Packers
@ Bills (SNF)
vs Bears
vs Rams (TNF)
@ Dolphins
vs Lions (MNF)
@ Cardinals

I dont see a lot of wins
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
You guys are certifiably nuts. I’m going to opt out of relitigating this.
I just think we've seen his ceiling as HC with this team. He gets close but can't close the deal.

Things I don't like:

He won't hire an OC/play caller because he thinks hes smarter than everyone (and his play calling in crunch time has never been applauded), he refuses to invest in the OL, he oesn't give a rats *** about special teams, is known for blowing 4th quarter leads, won't give players like Cowing a shot (even though we need a deep threat) because he doesn't think he's ready with his blocking or route running? Send him on go routes and see what happens for F sake. It can't hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts losing the locker room if we keep collecting L's.
The only thing that will doom the franchise for the foreseeable future would be firing Kyle.
Again, I'm not saying fire Shanahan, I'm saying as long as he's here we won't win a SB. I know he's not going anywhere, but I don't have to like him. And I don't.

Just my $.02
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
You guys are certifiably nuts. I’m going to opt out of relitigating this.
I just think we've seen his ceiling as HC with this team. He gets close but can't close the deal.

Things I don't like:

He won't hire an OC/play caller because he thinks hes smarter than everyone (and his play calling in crunch time has never been applauded), he refuses to invest in the OL, he oesn't give a rats *** about special teams, is known for blowing 4th quarter leads, won't give players like Cowing a shot (even though we need a deep threat) because he doesn't think he's ready with his blocking or route running? Send him on go routes and see what happens for F sake. It can't hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts losing the locker room if we keep collecting L's.
The only thing that will doom the franchise for the foreseeable future would be firing Kyle.
Again, I'm not saying fire Shanahan, I'm saying as long as he's here we won't win a SB. I know he's not going anywhere, but I don't have to like him. And I don't.

Just my $.02
Most coaches won’t win a Super Bowl. (Shrug)
 
49ers remaining schedule:

@ Packers
@ Bills (SNF)
vs Bears
vs Rams (TNF)
@ Dolphins
vs Lions (MNF)
@ Cardinals

I dont see a lot of wins
That's a tough schedule, agreed
But that's usually what happens to teams that go to the Super Bowl
If they win 4 of those 7 games they'll be 9-8. I doubt that's good enough to win the division, and no wild card teams will come from the West.

Just being realistic.
 
49ers remaining schedule:

@ Packers
@ Bills (SNF)
vs Bears
vs Rams (TNF)
@ Dolphins
vs Lions (MNF)
@ Cardinals

I dont see a lot of wins
That's a tough schedule, agreed
But that's usually what happens to teams that go to the Super Bowl
If they win 4 of those 7 games they'll be 9-8. I doubt that's good enough to win the division, and no wild card teams will come from the West.

Just being realistic.
And I agree with you, I didn't want to argue with you
The schedule might be the undoing but rest assured that most teams on that list if you interview them leading up to SF, I don't think they see it the same as we do
at GB and at BUF, they might be lucky to split and go 6-6, Green Bay isn't on all cylinders right now, they should have lost to Chicago today
GB is a questionable 7-3, you all will be a good test for them, vice versa
Bears and Rams, both home games and a TNF special
I'm at 8-6, the fluffy Phins gonna knock you all out, I doubt it
I'm at 9-6 and I'll take the Lions and now I'm ALL IN at Arizona which I predicted weeks ago it would end there
That last game of the season the Playoffs start early for the NFC West, 10-7 w/the winner hosting the Wildcard for the Playoffs
Cheers!
 
Sad thing is I don't see Jed moving on from Shanahan, I think we're stuck with him for a long long time.
You guys are certifiably nuts. I’m going to opt out of relitigating this.
I just think we've seen his ceiling as HC with this team. He gets close but can't close the deal.

Things I don't like:

He won't hire an OC/play caller because he thinks hes smarter than everyone (and his play calling in crunch time has never been applauded), he refuses to invest in the OL, he oesn't give a rats *** about special teams, is known for blowing 4th quarter leads, won't give players like Cowing a shot (even though we need a deep threat) because he doesn't think he's ready with his blocking or route running? Send him on go routes and see what happens for F sake. It can't hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts losing the locker room if we keep collecting L's.
The only thing that will doom the franchise for the foreseeable future would be firing Kyle.
He’s like being in purgatory. Yea, we won’t be roasting under Satan’s pitchfork, but we’re not going to the pearly gates either.

He’s not a winner, and I’ve said it for years hoping he proves me wrong. 2024-2025, looks like I’ll sadly be right again.
 

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