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Wingnut
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Bosa, Shanahan differ on 49ers' need for defensive adjustments
Bosa, Shanahan differ on 49ers' need for defensive adjustments
49ers coach Kyle Shanahan doesn’t believe defensive adjustments have been an issue for San Francisco this season despite Nick Bosa’s recent comments.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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Little stuff like this are symptoms of them being emotionally exhausted from the last few years and I suspect it will get worse before it gets better.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
I posted this in the Saleh thread: Back to the Niners next season? Maybe as a consultant this season?
Sorensen will be more difficult to throw under the bus than Wilks was as someone they promoted from in house, but if he has a terrible year, I could definitely see Saleh coming back. Bringing him in this year would be a tough look for a new DC only 5 games into his tenure, as they already have Brandon Staley awkwardly looking over Sorensen's shoulder.
efactor
Footballguy
So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Saleh said he's not gonna coach anywhere this season. I'd love him to come back next season but I don't know if he'd even want to, and like thecatch said, they really like Sorensen for whatever reason, and Staley is in the building...for whatever reason.
Fans here seem to have selective memory about Saleh too. Before he had that loaded defense in 2019, he was constantly being criticized as being too vanilla and not optimally scheming his talent. I think the best thing he had going for him was that his guys wanted to play hard for him. That might give him an edge on a guy like Wilks but I'm not sure he's any better of a tactician than they've had recently.
efactor
Footballguy
Yep.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Cmon now, we all have our opinions.So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
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KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
There is zero excuse for this team to have a losing record, and if they miss the playoffs this year, the heat has to be on IMO.
Yes, Kyle is a very good coach, but so was Tony Dungy in Tampa back in the day. He had 4 playoff appearances in 6 years there, including making the playoffs in 3 straight years before being fired. Next season they won the SB with Gruden. Dungy built thelat team but couldn't get over the hump, and a coaching change was what they needed. I feel like SF could be in a similar situation.
Dungy of course went on to win a SB with Peyton Manning, but much like Reid had to get Mahomes before he won a SB, Dungy didn't win one until he had a HOF QB in Manning. I don't see Shanahan winning one anywhere if he can't win one with this team.
Kyle seems to be calling plays different than he used to, and it's not just because CMC is out. There's not as much pre snap motion/window dressing, way less play action, a non existent screen game, passing more than running, etc, and its not working yet he's not changing anything. He's getting stale, and I think it's starting to wear thin with players.
It'd be a damn shame if players like Kittle, Trent Williams, Warner CMC, etc don't win a SB with this team because the coach could never figure it out. That's all I'm saying.
No it doesn't. Would love to see the short list of people you want to replace Shanahan with. Fans of this mindset will deserve the next cycle of Tomsula/Kelly/Nolan etc.Cmon now, we all have our opinions.So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
x.com
KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
There is zero excuse for this team to have a losing record, and if they miss the playoffs this year, the heat has to be on IMO.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I don't have a next coach in mind, I just don't want the Shanahan era to end like Marv Levys in Buffalo. We are well on our way to being the new 90s Bills, it's ridiculous.No it doesn't. Would love to see the short list of people you want to replace Shanahan with. Fans of this mindset will deserve the next cycle of Tomsula/Kelly/Nolan etc.Cmon now, we all have our opinions.So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
x.com
KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
There is zero excuse for this team to have a losing record, and if they miss the playoffs this year, the heat has to be on IMO.
"Fans of this mindset" will deserve mediocrity at coaching because they're tired of Shanahan failing to have his team prepared on Sunday or to make necessary adjustments? How about York not hiring coaches everyone in the world knows isn't the answer (see Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan) but instead try to find an up and comer like LaFleur or O'Connell. Easier said than done of course but I'd rather see what a new coaching staff could do with this team than watch Kyle and his staff piss away their legit SB window.
Just my $.02, but I've been waiting for 30 years for a SB and it doesn't look like it gonna happen again this season, and it's getting beyond frustrating. If SF misses the playoffs this year, with this roster, even with all the injuries, he absolutely should be on the hot seat IMO, and I'd be behind it 100%.
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efactor
Footballguy
Sometimes you have to blame the players. They always say “it’s never one play” but sometimes it is. Jimmy falling apart in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. Plays were open, but he couldn’t connect. Tartt dropping the gift INT in the NFC championship game against the Rams. 49ers more than likely win if he doesn’t bumble that play and decent chance they beat the Bengals. Luter having the punt hit his foot and then Ray Ray trying to pick it up instead of just falling on it. 49ers came back from big deficits in both NFC playoff games last year, but Shanahan gets no credit for that. Funny how that works.I don't have a next coach in mind, I just don't want the Shanahan era to end like Marv Levys in Buffalo. We are well on our way to being the new 90s Bills, and it's pathetic.No it doesn't. Would love to see the short list of people you want to replace Shanahan with. Fans of this mindset will deserve the next cycle of Tomsula/Kelly/Nolan etc.Cmon now, we all have our opinions.So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
x.com
KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
There is zero excuse for this team to have a losing record, and if they miss the playoffs this year, the heat has to be on IMO.
"Fans of this mindset" will deserve mediocrity at coaching because they're tired of Shanahan being a choke artist? How about York not hiring coaches everyone in the world knows isn't the answer (see Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan) but instead try to find an up and comer like LaFleur or O'Connell. Easier said than done of course but I'd rather see what a new coaching staff could do with this team than watch Kyle and his staff piss away their legit SB window.
Just my $.02, but I've been waiting for 30 years for a SB and it doesn't look like it gonna happen again this season, and it's getting beyond frustrating. If SF misses the playoffs this year, with this roster, even with all the injuries, he absolutely should be on the hot seat IMO.
These “fans” that criticize Shanahan are the same ones that idolized Harbaugh and had a fit when he was fired. All but maybe 5 teams would fire their coach immediately if they had a chance to hire Kyle. Look at Fat Andy. He’s a demigod now, but took switching teams and landing a HOF QB before he hit that status.
Kyle isn’t going anywhere
Wingnut
Footballguy
Agree 100%. But I don't think he will ever win a championship as head coach.
It's Yorks team, he can do what he wants, but its only gonna get harder each year as we lose players and get older.
efactor
Footballguy
Well, you also gave the team up for dead last year when they dropped 3 straight and now you’re in “all is doom” mode again. Been a frustrating season but win on Thursday and all is good.
Kyle will win championships before he retires. I just hope it’s with the 49ers.
You would have been demanding that the Niners fire LaFluer or O’Connell for years if they had been the coach here with their existing track records. Those guys are discount versions of Shanahan.I don't have a next coach in mind, I just don't want the Shanahan era to end like Marv Levys in Buffalo. We are well on our way to being the new 90s Bills, it's ridiculous.No it doesn't. Would love to see the short list of people you want to replace Shanahan with. Fans of this mindset will deserve the next cycle of Tomsula/Kelly/Nolan etc.Cmon now, we all have our opinions.So in 7 plus seasons, how many more “successful” teams have their been than the 49ers? Also, really only 5 years when you consider he took over the worst roster in football and there was a 2 year rebuild period.First Bosa says calls out coaching saying adjustments need to be made, now Kittle drops hints. Are players getting tired of falling short under Shanahan? Could he start to lose the locker room? Is a mutiny coming?
Kittle on Christian McCaffrey's absence:
"He's that big piece of the puzzle. Our offense has really gone through him the last couple of years. When you remove that piece of the puzzle you have to really change the picture sometimes. I still think we can win all these games, but I thought that was an interesting fact."
x.com
KS does not adjust and you can see it on the field
I look at so many successful teams and how they adjust, how they scheme, how they hide things, how they innovate and Shanny roles out the same old thing no matter the situation, no matter the time, no matter the opponent
It's painful to watch
Look at the Minn D - that's all the coordinator. They have little talent on that team.
Posts like these are idiotic and can’t be taken seriously.
There is zero excuse for this team to have a losing record, and if they miss the playoffs this year, the heat has to be on IMO.
"Fans of this mindset" will deserve mediocrity at coaching because they're tired of Shanahan failing to have his team prepared on Sunday or to make necessary adjustments? How about York not hiring coaches everyone in the world knows isn't the answer (see Tomsula, Kelly, Nolan) but instead try to find an up and comer like LaFleur or O'Connell. Easier said than done of course but I'd rather see what a new coaching staff could do with this team than watch Kyle and his staff piss away their legit SB window.
Just my $.02, but I've been waiting for 30 years for a SB and it doesn't look like it gonna happen again this season, and it's getting beyond frustrating. If SF misses the playoffs this year, with this roster, even with all the injuries, he absolutely should be on the hot seat IMO, and I'd be behind it 100%.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just stating my opinion, and if you disagree that's fine, I couldn't care less. Youll see when it's been 35 years and still no 6th championship. But as long as we get close, it's cool I guess.
I gotta go finish my hurricane prep, no time to argue about stupid sh##.
I gotta go finish my hurricane prep, no time to argue about stupid sh##.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Who's in all is doom mode? This team sucks right now. Did you see the thread title where it says 1st place is on the line Thursday? Did you see my post where I said the division is wide open and we can still win it?
There are several GLARING issues with this team right now and most of it falls on the coaches. Some on the players, some to injuries, but most on the coaches. Calling it out isn't "all is doom", it's reality, and it needs to be fixed like yesterday. If we fall to 2-4, it could snowball the next several weeks.
But whatever. Enjoy the game Thursday.
efactor
Footballguy
Well, he is putting them in position to win, which is kind of a major step in the process. Please tell us who could have taken over the mess that this team was in 2017 and won a title or 3 in these 7 years. Or are there too many to name?
efactor
Footballguy
You too. Stop posting and get the hell out of the path of the hurricane
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
Admittedly, I am one of those fans. I am only remembering that he was a DC that was good enough to get a HC gig.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Nobody. He built this roster pretty much from scratch and he's a brilliant offensive mind and has been a really good head coach, but I think we've seen his ceiling. Him and Lynch turned the franchise around and made them contenders, but I'm curious to see what happens when the dominoes fall when we have to pay Purdy $50+ mil/yr and if Kyle can get it done without an all-star cast.
I would love him to prove me wrong, and I'm rooting for him to.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Gonna blow a 20 point lead in this one too? The guru certainly has them looking lost and putting in that work.
eagles 123
Footballguy
Kittle questionable then proceeds to dominate the Seahawks.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Really had the signature blowing a lead feeling. Glad they closed it out.
efactor
Footballguy
So the NFLs explanation on why the replay officials blew it on the muffed punt was “we didn’t get the high definition feed and we couldn’t tell if it hit his hand or not”. Gazillion dollar business and they can’t get a good enough feed to see the obvious. I saw it on the live play. NFL really sucks at times.
need2know
Footballguy
The calls are so bad sometimes its funny. Happens in almost every game. They dont care. Like at all
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Thanks for posting this. This speaks to him not closing out games. Compared to other top coaches, the data is almost inverse.
He really wanted to give yesterday away too. After Kittle’s first TD, they really looked poorly coached, unorganized, and sloppy. That’s on one person.
To me, he comes off as too arrogant to make the changes needed to go from “a coach who can win,” to “a coach who can win it all.”
After a 30+ year drought, NFCC games and what not, they don’t excite me. I just want one SB. Whether that’s unfair and sets a higher bar, that’s simply my mentality at this point. To me, they’ve had such a good window these past 5 years and just haven’t been able to cross the finish line.
efactor
Footballguy
Thanks for posting this. This speaks to him not closing out games. Compared to other top coaches, the data is almost inverse.
He really wanted to give yesterday away too. After Kittle’s first TD, they really looked poorly coached, unorganized, and sloppy. That’s on one person.
To me, he comes off as too arrogant to make the changes needed to go from “a coach who can win,” to “a coach who can win it all.”
After a 30+ year drought, NFCC games and what not, they don’t excite me. I just want one SB. Whether that’s unfair and sets a higher bar, that’s simply my mentality at this point. To me, they’ve had such a good window these past 5 years and just haven’t been able to cross the finish line.
efactor
Footballguy
They beat Seattle on the road by two scores in a game where they were playing backup to the backup RBs for the last 2 1/2 quarters and were playing without Ward and Hufunga and then without Mustafa the 2nd half. And that was with them getting jobbed on the replay on an obvious turnover that would have given them the ball at the Seattle 15. Yet you still whine? Amazing.Thanks for posting this. This speaks to him not closing out games. Compared to other top coaches, the data is almost inverse.
He really wanted to give yesterday away too. After Kittle’s first TD, they really looked poorly coached, unorganized, and sloppy. That’s on one person.
To me, he comes off as too arrogant to make the changes needed to go from “a coach who can win,” to “a coach who can win it all.”
After a 30+ year drought, NFCC games and what not, they don’t excite me. I just want one SB. Whether that’s unfair and sets a higher bar, that’s simply my mentality at this point. To me, they’ve had such a good window these past 5 years and just haven’t been able to cross the finish line.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Nick Bosa generated 14 pressures across 49 pass rushes in 49ers' win over Seahawks, tied for most pressures by pass rusher in game over last four seasons, per @NextGenStats
The 49ers generated 31 pressures & had 1 sack as a team vs the Seahawks, per PFF
• Nick Bosa: 14
• Leonard Floyd: 6
• Maliek Collins: 4
• Sam Okuayinonu: 3 (1 sack)
• Kevin Givens: 2
• Evan Anderson: 2
The 14 pressures for Bosa ties his career high for most in a game, which he also did back in Week 4 of 2022
The 49ers generated 31 pressures & had 1 sack as a team vs the Seahawks, per PFF
• Nick Bosa: 14
• Leonard Floyd: 6
• Maliek Collins: 4
• Sam Okuayinonu: 3 (1 sack)
• Kevin Givens: 2
• Evan Anderson: 2
The 14 pressures for Bosa ties his career high for most in a game, which he also did back in Week 4 of 2022
Wingnut
Footballguy
Rookie RG Dominick Puni has yet to allow a sack or a quarterback hit in 218 pass-blocking opportunities this season.
Trent Williams on Puni never playing RG in college, but has been successful at it in the NFL:
“I didn’t know he didn’t play right guard in college, which is crazy because he literally has the makings of a Pro-Bowl and All-Pro player at that position. He’s a godsend.”
Trent Williams on Puni never playing RG in college, but has been successful at it in the NFL:
“I didn’t know he didn’t play right guard in college, which is crazy because he literally has the makings of a Pro-Bowl and All-Pro player at that position. He’s a godsend.”
efactor
Footballguy
Always enjoy logging onto the Fieldgulls site after the 49ers beat them. Doom and gloom from Seahawk fans always warms my heart. A couple of them were lamenting that their genius GM took guard Christian Haynes in the 3rd when they could have taken Puni. Thank you John Schneider
Wingnut
Footballguy
I've been saying our 2024 draft was pretty good, and we haven't even seen Pearsall yet!
The 49ers rookie draft class stepped up in a big way last night
Puni: 0 sacks
Green: 6 takes, 2 PBU, INT
Mustapha: TFL, PBU, INT
Guerendo: 11 carries, 99 yards (incl game icing run)
Bethune: tackle, fumble recovery
We're gonna look back at this draft as one of SFs best IMO.
The 49ers rookie draft class stepped up in a big way last night
Puni: 0 sacks
Green: 6 takes, 2 PBU, INT
Mustapha: TFL, PBU, INT
Guerendo: 11 carries, 99 yards (incl game icing run)
Bethune: tackle, fumble recovery
We're gonna look back at this draft as one of SFs best IMO.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Breer: 49ers' Christian McCaffrey feeling like himself again; Ricky Pearsall will practice next week
Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated provided an update on San Francisco 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey, who has yet to play this season and remains on injured reserve due to calf and Achilles tendinitis issues.
"He's just started feeling like himself again last week, so they started to ramp him up over the last few days," Breer said during pre-game coverage. "The good news is that there's been no flare-up, there's been no setbacks. He feels good, so the Niners are optimistic about where he is.
"But this is a scary deal for him. He's determined to play this year. I'd say the next two or three weeks are critical."
Breer also provided an update on rookie wide receiver Ricky Pearsall, who remains on the non-football injury (NFI) list after being shot in the chest during a robbery attempt on August 31.
"Ricky Pearsall, their first-round [draft pick], will return to practice next week," Breer reported.
Once the 49ers open Pearsall's practice window, the team will have 21 days to activate the receiver off the injury list.
Breer: 49ers' Christian McCaffrey feeling like himself again; Ricky Pearsall will practice next week
Ahead of tonight's game against the Seattle Seahawks, Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated provided an update on San Francisco 49ers running back Christian...
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I'm not sure what the takeaway from that is. The criticism seems to be that he runs too much with the lead, but if you talk to the people in this thread he blows leads because he doesn't run the ball enough. And comparing his play calling with regard to expected pass rates against a guy like Andy Reid, who has Mahomes versus the crappy QBs Shanahan has had for most of his tenure, doesn't seem helpful either.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Rookies showing out! The five highest-graded 49ers players on defense.
- Evan Anderson, DT, 93.3, 13 snaps
- Malik Mustapha, FS, 80.2, 20 snaps
- George Odum, SS, 78.9, 58 snaps
- Renardo Green, CB, 76.7, 71 snaps
- Nick Bosa, DE, 75.3, 68 snaps
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Were you watching the drive Kenneth Walker finished with the 1 yard TD? They looked lost, to me the game was about to slip away at that pointThey beat Seattle on the road by two scores in a game where they were playing backup to the backup RBs for the last 2 1/2 quarters and were playing without Ward and Hufunga and then without Mustafa the 2nd half. And that was with them getting jobbed on the replay on an obvious turnover that would have given them the ball at the Seattle 15. Yet you still whine? Amazing.Thanks for posting this. This speaks to him not closing out games. Compared to other top coaches, the data is almost inverse.
He really wanted to give yesterday away too. After Kittle’s first TD, they really looked poorly coached, unorganized, and sloppy. That’s on one person.
To me, he comes off as too arrogant to make the changes needed to go from “a coach who can win,” to “a coach who can win it all.”
After a 30+ year drought, NFCC games and what not, they don’t excite me. I just want one SB. Whether that’s unfair and sets a higher bar, that’s simply my mentality at this point. To me, they’ve had such a good window these past 5 years and just haven’t been able to cross the finish line.
He’s on the opposite end of all coaches I would consider upper tier when you look at those data sets.
I’d be curious to compare him to Marv Levy in that set, tbh.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
We can agree on this, nothing quite as enjoyable as the misery of Seahawks’ fans.Always enjoy logging onto the Fieldgulls site after the 49ers beat them. Doom and gloom from Seahawk fans always warms my heart. A couple of them were lamenting that their genius GM took guard Christian Haynes in the 3rd when they could have taken Puni. Thank you John Schneider
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Takeaway from this to me is real simple. He struggles holding on to leads. We’ve all seen it, turns into a pumpkin. It’s right there in the data sets. He’s winning a little more than 50% of the games he should be winning almost 75% of the time.I'm not sure what the takeaway from that is. The criticism seems to be that he runs too much with the lead, but if you talk to the people in this thread he blows leads because he doesn't run the ball enough. And comparing his play calling with regard to expected pass rates against a guy like Andy Reid, who has Mahomes versus the crappy QBs Shanahan has had for most of his tenure, doesn't seem helpful either.
Those numbers appear to be dragged down quite a bit by his non-Jimmy/Purdy QBs and there's no answer as to why this might be the case except for the possibility that he may be running too much, which is a little ironic for the reasons stated above.Takeaway from this to me is real simple. He struggles holding on to leads. We’ve all seen it, turns into a pumpkin. It’s right there in the data sets. He’s winning a little more than 50% of the games he should be winning almost 75% of the time.I'm not sure what the takeaway from that is. The criticism seems to be that he runs too much with the lead, but if you talk to the people in this thread he blows leads because he doesn't run the ball enough. And comparing his play calling with regard to expected pass rates against a guy like Andy Reid, who has Mahomes versus the crappy QBs Shanahan has had for most of his tenure, doesn't seem helpful either.
This probably can't be quantified but I think he needs to change his approach to special teams. Clearly his strategy of delegating entirely to someone else and telling them to not #### things up is not working. He's got to pay more attention to that area of this team.
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Yeah, special teams is a huge factor. They go up 20 after the Kittle TD and then the TD return.Those numbers appear to be dragged down quite a bit by his non-Jimmy/Purdy QBs and there's no answer as to why this might be the case except for the possibility that he may be running too much, which is a little ironic for the reasons stated above.Takeaway from this to me is real simple. He struggles holding on to leads. We’ve all seen it, turns into a pumpkin. It’s right there in the data sets. He’s winning a little more than 50% of the games he should be winning almost 75% of the time.I'm not sure what the takeaway from that is. The criticism seems to be that he runs too much with the lead, but if you talk to the people in this thread he blows leads because he doesn't run the ball enough. And comparing his play calling with regard to expected pass rates against a guy like Andy Reid, who has Mahomes versus the crappy QBs Shanahan has had for most of his tenure, doesn't seem helpful either.
This probably can't be quantified but I think he needs to change his approach to special teams. Clearly his strategy of delegating entirely to someone else and telling them to not #### things up is not working. He's got to pay more attention to that area of this team.
I didn’t feel last night slipping away. They scored twice but 49ers should have gotten the ball back at the Seattle 15 but then the replay fiasco. Shiot happens. Blaming Shanahan for every bad stretch of a game is really odd IMO.
Considering Mason went out as well as the secondary being so thin, I thought he coached a great game. Won by two scores in Seattle. I’ll take it.
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