fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I was just responding to your reaction on that thread title. Nothing more, nothing less. The title had nothing to do with last season’s game. Clearly that was a joke. And I’m not even an Eagles fan.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This team is just so ****ing good!! Please, just please, no injuries to Brock, Deebo, CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Bosa, or Warner!!! Anyone else hurts, but those guys, please stay healthy.
And wtf is going on with Armstead, looks how he looked a few years ago, he’s been a monster!
ETA: Kittle
ETA 2: we’re so freaking stacked!
And wtf is going on with Armstead, looks how he looked a few years ago, he’s been a monster!
ETA: Kittle
ETA 2: we’re so freaking stacked!
Wingnut
Footballguy
QB Brock Purdy has four games with at least 3 TD passes and a passer rating of 140-or higher this season. That's tied with Tom Brady (2007) and Aaron Rodgers (2011) for the most such games by a quarterback in a season in NFL history.
MVP!!!!
MVP!!!!
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Wingnut
Footballguy
#49ers scored a TD on 6 straight drives today. It's first time they did that in a game since Oct. 18, 1992 against the Falcons when they also had a streak of 6 straight TD drives.
Over past 10 seasons, only other team to score a TD on 6 straight drives in a game is 2019 Ravens.
Over past 10 seasons, only other team to score a TD on 6 straight drives in a game is 2019 Ravens.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Per @EliasSports: The #49ers' 23-point road win in Philadelphia is the largest victory margin since the 1970 merger against the team with the outright best record in the NFL (at least 10 games into the season).
FRAUDS. I'm having a cheese steak for lunch tomorrow.
FRAUDS. I'm having a cheese steak for lunch tomorrow.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Morning friends. Eagles’ fans across the globe appear on tilt today. Wait until Jan, this was just the appetizer.
Hopefully the Cowboys handle business this weekend, and we handle ours for the rest of the season.
Hopefully the Cowboys handle business this weekend, and we handle ours for the rest of the season.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Woke up feeling goooooood!
Seriously, if we stay healthy, who's gonna beat us?
I'm putting the Eagles in the rear view for now, maybe we see them again down the road, but until then, it's all about the next game. Bring on the Seachickens!!
This team is special, guys. Enjoy the ride!
Seriously, if we stay healthy, who's gonna beat us?
I'm putting the Eagles in the rear view for now, maybe we see them again down the road, but until then, it's all about the next game. Bring on the Seachickens!!
This team is special, guys. Enjoy the ride!
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Par for the course for them.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Last post about the Eagles, I thought this was funny.
Seth Joyner GOES IN on #Eagles DB’s: “They are as disinterested in tackling someone as a young kid coming out to play football for the first time.. They don’t wanna hit nobody.. They don’t wanna tackle nobody. Tackling is an attitude.. They don’t want any parts of it.. They just wanna push you out of bounds, or trip you up.. They want no parts of it.”
They sure did make some business decisions when it came to tackling Deebo.
Seth Joyner GOES IN on #Eagles DB’s: “They are as disinterested in tackling someone as a young kid coming out to play football for the first time.. They don’t wanna hit nobody.. They don’t wanna tackle nobody. Tackling is an attitude.. They don’t want any parts of it.. They just wanna push you out of bounds, or trip you up.. They want no parts of it.”
They sure did make some business decisions when it came to tackling Deebo.
Spin
Footballguy
Man I knew Deebo was fast, but he looked like he was on another level yesterday. Great game. I still wish he wouldn't take plays off when he doesn't think he's getting the ball. I noticed a few times he was jogging on his routes, and on one play he didn't move at all off the line, just turned and watched as the other receivers all ran routes.
Spin
Footballguy
Just some examples of what I was talking about for Deebo:
https://youtu.be/KY3eNvcBuwY?si=RFI-Y41LY7HNUc-Y&t=400 <-- what is he doing here? Watch at the top of the screen.
https://youtu.be/KY3eNvcBuwY?si=fctEkgLBJnetqaRz&t=176 <-- He definitely looks like he's mailing it in on this route, just jogs it, even with tons of open space.
I just noticed on a few plays he does this stuff and drives me nuts because he's so talented. Maybe it's by design though.
https://youtu.be/KY3eNvcBuwY?si=RFI-Y41LY7HNUc-Y&t=400 <-- what is he doing here? Watch at the top of the screen.
https://youtu.be/KY3eNvcBuwY?si=fctEkgLBJnetqaRz&t=176 <-- He definitely looks like he's mailing it in on this route, just jogs it, even with tons of open space.
I just noticed on a few plays he does this stuff and drives me nuts because he's so talented. Maybe it's by design though.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Lol, this guy's still trying. What a waste of a first round pick:
Former 49ers’ first-round pick Reuben Foster, who has played for the USFL’s Pittsburgh Maulers after spending time in the NFL with San Francisco and Washington, is scheduled to work out Wednesday for the Miami Dolphins.
Former 49ers’ first-round pick Reuben Foster, who has played for the USFL’s Pittsburgh Maulers after spending time in the NFL with San Francisco and Washington, is scheduled to work out Wednesday for the Miami Dolphins.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Injury update:
Shanahan provided updates during Monday's conference call, sharing that Dwelley sustained a high-ankle sprain and will miss multiple weeks.
Arik Armstead emerged with foot and knee issues. "We're still gathering more information," Shanahan said of Armstead's situation. "He came in with that this morning. We'll have more on that probably for you guys on Wednesday."
Guard Spencer Burford emerged with a knee injury, one different from the knee issue that sidelined him on Thanksgiving night against the Seattle Seahawks.
"We'll see how he responds this week," Shanahan noted. "He still has a chance to go [this weekend]."
Cornerback Darrell Luter Jr. is dealing with a hamstring injury and will likely miss the upcoming game against the Seattle Seahawks. Wide receiver Ray-Ray McCloud remains day-to-day with a rib injury.
Shanahan provided updates during Monday's conference call, sharing that Dwelley sustained a high-ankle sprain and will miss multiple weeks.
Arik Armstead emerged with foot and knee issues. "We're still gathering more information," Shanahan said of Armstead's situation. "He came in with that this morning. We'll have more on that probably for you guys on Wednesday."
Guard Spencer Burford emerged with a knee injury, one different from the knee issue that sidelined him on Thanksgiving night against the Seattle Seahawks.
"We'll see how he responds this week," Shanahan noted. "He still has a chance to go [this weekend]."
Cornerback Darrell Luter Jr. is dealing with a hamstring injury and will likely miss the upcoming game against the Seattle Seahawks. Wide receiver Ray-Ray McCloud remains day-to-day with a rib injury.
Spin
Footballguy
The defense has played much better since Wilks moved to the sideline. And after listening to Bosa's post game interview, it makes a lot more sense about something that was bugging me during the game. It looked like Young and Bosa were just bull rushing straight ahead every snap, and not really driving hard to get around them, but that was exactly the plan. Love that they all bought in and it worked great.
Like to add a few to the list:
Ward
Kittle
Greenlaw
Hargraves
Young
Armstead
Lenoir
Gibson
Brown
Thomas
Banks
Brendel
Burford
McKivitz
Jennings
Kinlaw
Wish
Probably forgot a few but that’s good for now
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Read about this on Twitter, it's crazy how they weren't really going for sacks, but it worked.
Link
Shanahan told me after the game that the idea to rush with the idea to contain Hurts goes against "the DNA" of a line that prides itself on racing to the quarterback. The amount of discipline to do that for an entire game is hard to quantify. As DE Nick Bosa explained, the goal was to prevent Hurts from having any sort of escape route up the middle. So any time he ran, he had to get outside of the set edges and then work his way upfield, which by then other defenders could rally to the ball. Their longest run was 7 yards.
As Bosa explained, that approach often meant rushing for around 10 seconds which can take a toll on the defense, which is why you saw so much rotating throughout the game. The hope was to get enough push so Hurts would drop his eyes from down the field and then to pressure him from there so by the time he looked back up, there was somebody in his face. The result was just 3 sacks but a whopping 46 pressures, their most in a game since ESPN began tracking pressures in 2009. That's the most times Hurts has been pressured in his career and it came with only a 12% blitz rate, the lowest he's faced this season. Hurts ended up attempting 16 passes from outside the pocket, a career high. He went 7-of-16 on those attempts.
The approach had to frustrate the Eagles OL, which ostensibly played well, albeit against a DL that wasn't necessarily trying to just get sacks.
Watching the game, i was thinking WTF as Bosa seemed to bull rush every down. Makes more sense now but seemed to be playing into Lane Johnson’s strengths. As soon as he made a spin move, he almost got to Hurts and Hurts threw the ball away.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Read a stat that Purdy only had 4 throws in this game that went 15 yards or longer in the air. Can't confirm if true, but crazy if it is.
Spin
Footballguy
Saw this this morning on Twitter, which is a great reply to the argument about him being a "system QB" where his receivers and CMC do all the work:
48.6% of Brock Purdy's passing yards this season are coming from YAC. That's less than each of the past 3 MVP winners:
2020 Aaron Rodgers: 52.2%
2021 Aaron Rodgers: 52.7%
2022 Patrick Mahomes: 54.3%
2023 Brock Purdy: 48.6%
Checkmate.
48.6% of Brock Purdy's passing yards this season are coming from YAC. That's less than each of the past 3 MVP winners:
2020 Aaron Rodgers: 52.2%
2021 Aaron Rodgers: 52.7%
2022 Patrick Mahomes: 54.3%
2023 Brock Purdy: 48.6%
Checkmate.
Wingnut
Footballguy
The numbers are there.
Joe Montana’s 1989 MVP season:
13 games started/played
3521 yds
26 TD
8 INT
6.7 TD% (league leading)
70.2 CMP% ( league leading)
Brock Purdy’s 2023 season:
Thru 12 games
3185 yds
23 TD
6 INT
6.9 TD% (league leading)
70.2 CMP% (league leading)
And Purdy ain't done yet.
Joe Montana’s 1989 MVP season:
13 games started/played
3521 yds
26 TD
8 INT
6.7 TD% (league leading)
70.2 CMP% ( league leading)
Brock Purdy’s 2023 season:
Thru 12 games
3185 yds
23 TD
6 INT
6.9 TD% (league leading)
70.2 CMP% (league leading)
And Purdy ain't done yet.
Spin
Footballguy
Funnily enough, the inability of Jimmy G to stay healthy got Trey Lance an opportunity. Then Lance finally gets his chance and gets hurt, and then the inability of Jimmy G to stay healthy gets Purdy an opportunity which then costs Lance his. Much like his time here, Jimmy G giveth, and then Jimmy G taketh away.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Per Rapsheet: Long-time versatile DB Logan Ryan has signed with the #49ers, a potential big-time addition for December and their playoff run. Most recently with the #Bucs and #Giants, Ryan lands in SF.
Lombardi:
This is about as significant as a signing can be at this point of the year.
Biggest fact to consider: Logan Ryan has been a very solid tackler throughout his entire NFL career.
The 49ers' one weakness at Philly: Tackling from the safety spot (both Ji'Ayir Brown and Tashaun Gipson Sr.)
Ryan has a career missed tackle rate of only 8.7%. He's played every single position in the secondary, has 19 INTs to his name and even notched a 5-sack season.
Started his NFL career as a cornerback before moving to safety in 2020. He's 32 years old now and has been durable over his NFL career — the only season significantly compromised by injury was 2022.
Experience across all DB positions, 19 career INTs and a very solid tackling track record — all huge selling points for the 49ers.
Lombardi:
This is about as significant as a signing can be at this point of the year.
Biggest fact to consider: Logan Ryan has been a very solid tackler throughout his entire NFL career.
The 49ers' one weakness at Philly: Tackling from the safety spot (both Ji'Ayir Brown and Tashaun Gipson Sr.)
Ryan has a career missed tackle rate of only 8.7%. He's played every single position in the secondary, has 19 INTs to his name and even notched a 5-sack season.
Started his NFL career as a cornerback before moving to safety in 2020. He's 32 years old now and has been durable over his NFL career — the only season significantly compromised by injury was 2022.
Experience across all DB positions, 19 career INTs and a very solid tackling track record — all huge selling points for the 49ers.
Wingnut
Footballguy
In order to make room for new DB Logan Ryan, the 49ers released RB Ty Davis-Price, a third-round pick last season.
We can only hope Shanahan has learned his lesson about drafting RBs early.In order to make room for new DB Logan Ryan, the 49ers released RB Ty Davis-Price, a third-round pick last season.
Spin
Footballguy
I dunno about you guys, but I kinda want a "Schematically intelligent, ignorantly violent" or "gangster-nerds" t-shirt.
Ryan Clark describing the 49ers offense: They are the most schematically intelligent, ignorantly violent group of individuals I have ever seen.
Marcus Spears: They like gangster nerds?
Ryan Clark: Yeah. Like gangster nerds.#49ers #FTTB #Thee49ersFaithful
The whole clip is fantastic
Ryan Clark describing the 49ers offense: They are the most schematically intelligent, ignorantly violent group of individuals I have ever seen.
Marcus Spears: They like gangster nerds?
Ryan Clark: Yeah. Like gangster nerds.#49ers #FTTB #Thee49ersFaithful
The whole clip is fantastic
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Purdy has MVP Favorite..hahahahahahahahahahah
There is no way he is getting the MVP.. You put him on Tennessee and they may be winless.. Put Pickett on SF and they are still a playoff team.
There is no way he is getting the MVP.. You put him on Tennessee and they may be winless.. Put Pickett on SF and they are still a playoff team.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
This.
He's not even in the conversation, much less in the running. This seems like a "I wish this was true" from the OP.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I’m trying to figure out the best Purdy rookie card to own. I will be buying them up.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
If you put Brock Purdy on the Serbian Men’s Water Polo team, they go from 4th in the world to number 1 instantly! He’s just that good!
ETA: meant this as a quote to our astute guests above, but it didn’t quote them for whatever reason.
ETA: meant this as a quote to our astute guests above, but it didn’t quote them for whatever reason.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Wait...one guy's opinion on a site no one can read w/out a subscription? That's your case for Purdy?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Go look at the sportsbooks’ lines. It’s highly likely they know something you don’t.
Currently +350.
The national NFL reporter at the Athletic having a conversation about his case isn’t enough to establish he’s in the conversation? Think carefully about your rebuttal here.
Wingnut
Footballguy
He's a betting favorite, not sure why that's so hard to accept. He prob won't win, but he's definitely in the conversation right now.
Here's the first 5 sites that pop up when I Google NFL MVP odds:
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds | Most Valuable Player Odds
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds betting odds, history, contenders and wagering action provided by VegasInsider along with more NFL Betting Resources.
www.vegasinsider.com
2023-24 NFL MVP Odds and Favorites | FOX Sports
See current odds on the 2023-24 NFL MVP, with favorites, longshots, stats and betting insights.
www.foxsports.com
NFL Week 14 futures betting odds: Super Bowl, MVP and more
NFL futures, including Super Bowl odds, conference championship odds and more.
FanDuel Sportsbook
karl.Racki
Footballguy
FSU was betting favorite to make the college football playoffs.. Purdy might be on the ballot, he may get votes, but he isn't winning it.He's a betting favorite, not sure why that's so hard to accept. He prob won't win, but he's definitely in the conversation right now.
Here's the first 5 sites that pop up when I Google NFL MVP odds:
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds | Most Valuable Player Odds
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds betting odds, history, contenders and wagering action provided by VegasInsider along with more NFL Betting Resources.
2023-24 NFL MVP Odds and Favorites | FOX Sports
See current odds on the 2023-24 NFL MVP, with favorites, longshots, stats and betting insights.
NFL Week 14 futures betting odds: Super Bowl, MVP and more
NFL futures, including Super Bowl odds, conference championship odds and more.www.espn.com
FanDuel Sportsbook
sportsbook.fanduel.com
If he gets it, the award is a complete and utter joke. You can argue he isn't the MVP of his own team.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I never said he would win. I said he's a current MVP betting favorite, and that's a fact. Again, sorry you don't like it.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Funny you mention this.FSU was betting favorite to make the college football playoffs.. Purdy might be on the ballot, he may get votes, but he isn't winning it.He's a betting favorite, not sure why that's so hard to accept. He prob won't win, but he's definitely in the conversation right now.
Here's the first 5 sites that pop up when I Google NFL MVP odds:
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds | Most Valuable Player Odds
2024-25 NFL MVP Odds betting odds, history, contenders and wagering action provided by VegasInsider along with more NFL Betting Resources.
2023-24 NFL MVP Odds and Favorites | FOX Sports
See current odds on the 2023-24 NFL MVP, with favorites, longshots, stats and betting insights.
NFL Week 14 futures betting odds: Super Bowl, MVP and more
NFL futures, including Super Bowl odds, conference championship odds and more.
FanDuel Sportsbook
If he gets it, the award is a complete and utter joke. You can argue he isn't the MVP of his own team.
If you go check the college football thread, I laid the hammer down on “will FSU make the college football playoffs” +350 No
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Even more interesting I’m getting ready to lay the hammer on Brock at +350.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Purdy is a fluke!
Anyone could do what he’s doing with the team around him!
Purdy can’t possibly win the MVP!
lol. Maybe he’ll be decent at this football thing at some point.
What’s that leave for him next? Purdy isn’t the greatest QB of all time?
Anyone could do what he’s doing with the team around him!
Purdy can’t possibly win the MVP!
lol. Maybe he’ll be decent at this football thing at some point.
What’s that leave for him next? Purdy isn’t the greatest QB of all time?
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farfromforgotten
Footballguy
In a surprise move, I see the Purdy haters have retaken the Eagles posters in here for now.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
No - Pickett plays scared, has horrible accuracy, no pocket presence, noodle arm and is a single read QB. He literally has zero good attributes as a QB. I got laughed at in the Steelers thread when I asked if his ceiling was Cousins (on the aftermath of his only decent game). Purdy on the other hand has all the good attributes with the exception of a strong arm. And I’m a freaking Steelers fan!
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I mean at this point I may switch allegiances and become a Niners fan again (I was when I was a kid during the Montana era and didn’t know better). That’s how much of a man crush I have on this guy.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
It doesn't Matter, All he would have to do is throw quick passes to CMAC, Deebo, and Aiyuk. They all can go the distance every time they get the ball;. Plus he would have a HOF TE, and a better line.
Pickett's numbers would be a ton better in SF.
Purdy;'s numbers would be nowhere near what they are if he was behind the Steelers line.
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