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Scott Walker WI governor vs the Packers & teachers (5 Viewers)

'Don't get your kids Christmas presents, give the money to me'

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-walker-urges-parents-skip-toys-send-christmas-182225382--abc-news-politics.html

What an ### hat.
Am I correct in assuming that you think Obama is an ### hat too??

Obama for America has a new fundraising idea:

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you—register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”
“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate—and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.
 
Well except it wasn't Walker who wrote that, it was a doofus aide who was fired because of it.

keep up the good fight tho

 
'Don't get your kids Christmas presents, give the money to me'

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-walker-urges-parents-skip-toys-send-christmas-182225382--abc-news-politics.html

What an ### hat.
Am I correct in assuming that you think Obama is an ### hat too??

Obama for America has a new fundraising idea:

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you—register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”
“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate—and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.
:popcorn:

 
Scott Walker's Wisconsin vs. Dayton's Minnesota: Which is doing better?

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By Eric Black | 11/25/13
Three years ago, Minnesota elected a DFL governor (Mark Dayton) whose slogan was "tax the rich," and in 2012 it gave his DFL party control of the Legislature. Three years ago, Wisconsin elected a Republican governor (Scott Walker) with a Republican Legislature pledged to implement the anti-tax, anti-union, least-government approach that 21st century conservatism says is the best way to produce jobs and economic growth and the greatest good for the great number.

In a must-read op-ed in Sunday's New York Times, University of Minnesota political scientist Larry Jacobs stepped back to see which approach was getting better results so far.

It isn't even close. Minnesota is growing and thriving far more than Wisconsin:

Three years into Mr. Walker’s term, Wisconsin lags behind Minnesota in job creation and economic growth. As a candidate, Mr. Walker
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/526/create-250000-new-jobs/promised to produce
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/526/create-250000-new-jobs/250,000 private-sector jobs in his first term, but a year before the next election that number is less than 90,000. Wisconsin
http://www.jsonline.com/business/wi...ths-ended-in-march-b99106575z1-225348792.htmlranks 34th
http://www.jsonline.com/business/wi...ths-ended-in-march-b99106575z1-225348792.htmlfor job growth....


Along with California, Minnesota is the
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2013/06/17/economy/minnesota-growing-economyfifth fastest growing
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2013/06/17/economy/minnesota-growing-economystate economy, with private-sector job growth
http://www.startribune.com/business/232840591.htmlexceeding pre-recession levels
http://www.startribune.com/business/232840591.html. Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/places/mn/rates Minnesota
http://www.forbes.com/places/mn/as the eighth best state for business....
The lion’s share of Minnesota’s new tax revenue was sunk into human capital. While the state’s Constitution required that half of the new revenue balance the budget in 2013, Mr. Dayton invested 71 percent of the remaining funds in K-12 schools and higher education as well as a pair of firsts: all-day kindergarten and wider access to early childhood education. Minnesota was one of the few states that raised education spending under the cloud of the Great Recession.
By contrast, Mr. Walker’s strategy limited Wisconsin’s ability to invest in infrastructure that would have catalyzed private-sector expansion, and he cut state funding of K-12 schools by more than 15 percent. Per student, this was the
http://www.wisconsinbudgetproject.org/wisconsins-school-funding-cuts-among-the-nations-deepest-2seventh sharpest decline
http://www.wisconsinbudgetproject.org/wisconsins-school-funding-cuts-among-the-nations-deepest-2in the country.
Health care presents another difference. When Mr. Walker refused to establish a state health insurance exchange or to expand Medicaid...
Mr. Dayton is on course to improve Minnesota’s already low uninsured rate. He expanded Medicaid to cover an
http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/191877021.htmladditional 35,000 people
http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/191877021.htmland accepted Washington’s offer to pick up the cost — as half the states, including a growing number with Republican governors, have. Mr. Dayton also created a state insurance exchange, which enrolled
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-po...highest-study-enrollment-misses-october-targemore than 90 percent
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-po...highest-study-enrollment-misses-october-targeof its first month’s target.
Mr. Pack, you and the family packing up and moving to Minnesota where the jobs, education, and social services are all superior?

 
'Don't get your kids Christmas presents, give the money to me'

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-walker-urges-parents-skip-toys-send-christmas-182225382--abc-news-politics.html

What an ### hat.
Am I correct in assuming that you think Obama is an ### hat too??

Obama for America has a new fundraising idea:

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you—register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”
“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate—and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.
:lmao:

 
'Don't get your kids Christmas presents, give the money to me'

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-walker-urges-parents-skip-toys-send-christmas-182225382--abc-news-politics.html

What an ### hat.
Am I correct in assuming that you think Obama is an ### hat too??

Obama for America has a new fundraising idea:

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you—register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”

“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate—and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.
Yes. I hate all of them. The only good thing I can say is that they seem to target their lemmings. I'm fine with both parties stealing from their voters.

Got any other questions?

 
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'Don't get your kids Christmas presents, give the money to me'

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-walker-urges-parents-skip-toys-send-christmas-182225382--abc-news-politics.html

What an ### hat.
Am I correct in assuming that you think Obama is an ### hat too??

Obama for America has a new fundraising idea:

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you—register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”

“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate—and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.
Yes. I hate all of them. The only good thing I can say is that they seem to target their lemmings. I'm fine with both parties stealing from their voters.

Got any other questions?
Nope.. I was serious..

I think they are pretty much all crooks... I was just making sure that you weren't the typical person that bashes one politician while blindly supporting another that does the same thing..

 
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cr8f's twitter feed is not a sign of a rational or well-adjusted person.
Yeah, he's certainly a candidate for medication if there ever was one.

He's going to need A LOT of it though if this doesn't push him clearly over the edge:

Federal appeals court gives Walker win on Act 10

Dealing unions their latest loss in court, a federal appeals court Friday upheld Gov. Scott Walker's tight limits on collective bargaining for most public employees.

The unanimous ruling by the three-judge panel upheld a September decision by U.S. District Judge William Conley in Madison that the law known as Act 10 does not infringe on the constitutional rights of government workers to freedom of speech and association and equal protection under the law.
It's a good day for WI and WI taxpayers. :thumbup:

His twitter feed is remarkably silent about this. He seems to be consumed by the fact that the US Post Office won't stop delivering Hustler to Congress.

 
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cr8f's twitter feed is not a sign of a rational or well-adjusted person.
His issue today is the post office delivering Hustler magazine to Congress. Post office has no say in the matter. Flynt is giving Congress the magazine free of charge and cr8f hates the post office for delivering the mail.

 
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
He's had a pretty successful career in politics.

During his time in the governor's office WI has had their property taxes lowered 3 times, tuition has been frozen in the UW system for 4 years, unemployment has improved, despite the cries from the teachers union when act 10 was enacted test scores have improved. Seems pretty good so far.

 
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.

 
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Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
He's had a pretty successful career in politics.

During his time in the governor's office WI has had their property taxes lowered 3 times, tuition has been frozen in the UW system for 4 years, unemployment has improved, despite the cries from the teachers union when act 10 was enacted test scores have improved. Seems pretty good so far.
:goodposting:

And saved about 2.7 billion so far for the state of WI. I'd say in terms of politics, that's a success.

 
Yet Wisconsin is the only state in the U.S. that had "statistically significant" job losses over the past 12 months. What's up with that?

http://www.jsonline.com/business/state-posts-largest-percentage-job-loss-in-us-over-past-year-report-shows-ib54utt-148694855.html
From March 2011 to 2012??? Digging deep much?

How about something a little more current? Wisconsin's unemployment rate falls to five-year low of 5.9%

http://www.jsonline.com/business/wisconsins-unemployment-rate-falls-to-five-year-low-of-59-b99250106z1-255668101.html

 
OK. Here's one from 2013. That make 2 years in a row where job growth in WI is way behind the national average. Gov. Walker keeps saying that WI is open for business but the numbers don't seem to support that statement.

http://www.pewstates.org/research/data-visualizations/how-many-jobs-did-your-state-create-85899483589
Their unemploment rate is below average already. Comparing job growth in Wisconsin to job growth in California, which has terrible unemployment, seems disingenuous. California has growth because they are in such a hole. That's not a good thing .

 
OK. Here's one from 2013. That make 2 years in a row where job growth in WI is way behind the national average. Gov. Walker keeps saying that WI is open for business but the numbers don't seem to support that statement.

http://www.pewstates.org/research/data-visualizations/how-many-jobs-did-your-state-create-85899483589
Their unemploment rate is below average already. Comparing job growth in Wisconsin to job growth in California, which has terrible unemployment, seems disingenuous. California has growth because they are in such a hole. That's not a good thing .
That's a fair point, but what about the other 46 states that posted positive job growth numbers (leaving WI among just three states that lost jobs)? Or to do a more realistic comparison, of the 24 states that have Wisconsin's unemployment rate of 6.0 or less, only Wyoming and Maine performed poorer than Wisconsin in terms of recent job creation.

 
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.

 
kwille said:
jonessed said:
kwille said:
OK. Here's one from 2013. That make 2 years in a row where job growth in WI is way behind the national average. Gov. Walker keeps saying that WI is open for business but the numbers don't seem to support that statement.

http://www.pewstates.org/research/data-visualizations/how-many-jobs-did-your-state-create-85899483589
Their unemploment rate is below average already. Comparing job growth in Wisconsin to job growth in California, which has terrible unemployment, seems disingenuous. California has growth because they are in such a hole. That's not a good thing .
That's a fair point, but what about the other 46 states that posted positive job growth numbers (leaving WI among just three states that lost jobs)? Or to do a more realistic comparison, of the 24 states that have Wisconsin's unemployment rate of 6.0 or less, only Wyoming and Maine performed poorer than Wisconsin in terms of recent job creation.
To evaluate something as "simple" as jobs, many variables have to be examined. To boil it all down to one number, as the graph does, is a false representation of what has been "accomplished." Numbers can, in fact, lie.

The overall jobs equation can be split both ways.

- The federal unemployment is down so one conclusion is that more people are working. Many democrats want to think of this as a plus.

- Wisconsin unemployment is down so the same conclusion should be had. Republicans want to point to this "fact" as a plus.

So, which is it? Unemployment down = good in one situation but not the other?

Using the above, how can Wisconsin's unemployment rate go down while "losing" 6,800 jobs? Yeah, I know the "real" unemployment rate Republicans like to throw around is higher but than don't pimp out that unemployment is falling in Wisconsin. Likewise, if unemployment is falling, Democrats cannot pimp out this "fact" that Wisconsin "lost" 6,800 jobs.

Overall, tax revenues are up, jobs are forming in Wisconsin, not at the rate Walker would like however America isn't really performing the way we all would like anyway in these numbers. Three big things going on with jobs in Wisconsin right now are a possible casino getting built near the Illinois border, mining up north (that is constantly blocked by Democrats), and Amazon building a huge warehouse near the Illinois border. Those would surely add jobs and other things to Wisconsin yet both sides of the aisle bicker about numbers. Shut up and add the jobs.

At the conclusion of all of this, to look at Walker in a microscope is not good (although everyone does this throughout the political spectrum). Stats and people need to look at the comparison between Walker's policies and his last opponent's policies (Barrett). Where would Wisconsin be under Barrett's policies vs. Walker's? Barrett has done nothing in Milwaukee and needs to get voted out as soon as possible. I'm not even saying a Republican needs to be voted in but a better Democrat than Barrett needs to be mayor. So, where would Wisconsin be with Barrett? A complete clusterf### that is where. Like or don't like Walker, fine, but Barrett would have had Wisconsin screwed up big time. And, Burke is no better.

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?

So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?

 
kwille said:
jonessed said:
kwille said:
OK. Here's one from 2013. That make 2 years in a row where job growth in WI is way behind the national average. Gov. Walker keeps saying that WI is open for business but the numbers don't seem to support that statement.

http://www.pewstates.org/research/data-visualizations/how-many-jobs-did-your-state-create-85899483589
Their unemploment rate is below average already. Comparing job growth in Wisconsin to job growth in California, which has terrible unemployment, seems disingenuous. California has growth because they are in such a hole. That's not a good thing .
That's a fair point, but what about the other 46 states that posted positive job growth numbers (leaving WI among just three states that lost jobs)? Or to do a more realistic comparison, of the 24 states that have Wisconsin's unemployment rate of 6.0 or less, only Wyoming and Maine performed poorer than Wisconsin in terms of recent job creation.
I'm trying to understand your point. The latest government numbers (March 2014) show the US has an unemployment rate of 6.7%, and WI has an unemployment rate of 5.9%. What exactly are you using these numbers for to criticize Walker?

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?

So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Ahnold 2016

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
WTF are you talking about? That has no relevancy to the topic at hand.

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
WTF are you talking about? That has no relevancy to the topic at hand.
He mmust be in Colorado smoking some Chiba. He is making no sense. Don't shoot anyone!

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
You've reached rock bottom Tgunz ad yet you still continue to dig

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
Tell you what, next time you can point to a presidential candidate that has gone to several years of pre presidential schooling, then several years of presidential specific schooling and served years of presidential specific residency and passed his presidential boards, I will vote for him and consider this comparison valid.

Until then let's hold the elitist snub our noses at the people without college degrees attitudes to the side mmmmmmkay.

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
Tell you what, next time you can point to a presidential candidate that has gone to several years of pre presidential schooling, then several years of presidential specific schooling and served years of presidential specific residency and passed his presidential boards, I will vote for him and consider this comparison valid.Until then let's hold the elitist snub our noses at the people without college degrees attitudes to the side mmmmmmkay.
The idea that our President should be a college graduate is "elitist"?

 
I just did some research and ran a few numbers. There are 5.7M people in WI and there are an estimated 2,840,288 in the workforce. At 5.9% unemployment that means there are 167,576 unemployed people. If 100,000 jobs have already been 'created' during Walker's tenure, and if he still has to add 150,000 more to make good on his promise of adding 250,000 jobs,the numbers simply don't work. Even if he adds those 150,000 jobs that means there would be only 17,576 unemployed workers, for an extremely small unemployment rate. Makes me wonder why Walker made a promise that is nearly mathematically unachievable.

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
Tell you what, next time you can point to a presidential candidate that has gone to several years of pre presidential schooling, then several years of presidential specific schooling and served years of presidential specific residency and passed his presidential boards, I will vote for him and consider this comparison valid.Until then let's hold the elitist snub our noses at the people without college degrees attitudes to the side mmmmmmkay.
The idea that our President should be a college graduate is "elitist"?
the idea that he/she should be counted out if they don't is.

If Bill gates were to go into politics and became governor and proved he was a very competent politician, the idea of eliminating him from contention for president of the US because he dropped out of college is elitist. It would also be pretty stupid.

 
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
MaxThreshold said:
tommyGunZ said:
Was very surprised to learn that Walker doesn't have a college diploma.
Weird. Neither does Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Richard Branson.

WTH is going on here?
Those guys quit college to start billion dollar businesses. Scott Walker quit because....uh.
Nobody "starts" a billion dollar business - that's where they end up. At the time they started them they were just college dropouts with an idea.

But that's beside the point. The point being that having a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you're counted out.
Not for starting a business, no. Running for higher elected office? It should be.
Really? Why?So you don't need any experience running a business or a state, but if you have a degree that gives you enough experience to run a country?
Tell you what, the next time you let a guy with only a high school diploma operate on little daughter Pack, I'll cast my vote for a guy with only a HS diploma for President. Deal?
You've reached rock bottom Tgunz ad yet you still continue to dig
He has no clue.

 
I just did some research and ran a few numbers. There are 5.7M people in WI and there are an estimated 2,840,288 in the workforce. At 5.9% unemployment that means there are 167,576 unemployed people. If 100,000 jobs have already been 'created' during Walker's tenure, and if he still has to add 150,000 more to make good on his promise of adding 250,000 jobs,the numbers simply don't work. Even if he adds those 150,000 jobs that means there would be only 17,576 unemployed workers, for an extremely small unemployment rate. Makes me wonder why Walker made a promise that is nearly mathematically unachievable.
:shrug: Growth, I guess. Getting working people to move to Wisconsin, relocate with their jobs is one idea... if Walgreens headquarters would move into Wisconsin... more jobs, more people that are not in the above numbers. If mining went on up north that would add jobs in total but maybe not permanent residents. Jobs near the borders are tricky since people can work in Wisconsin but not be residents.

 
The idea that our President should be a college graduate is "elitist"?
the idea that he/she should be counted out if they don't is.If Bill gates were to go into politics and became governor and proved he was a very competent politician, the idea of eliminating him from contention for president of the US because he dropped out of college is elitist. It would also be pretty stupid.
Sure. When Scott Walker's resume matches Bill Gates', perhaps we should consider looking past his inability to earn a college diploma. Until then, he's out.

 
The idea that our President should be a college graduate is "elitist"?
the idea that he/she should be counted out if they don't is.If Bill gates were to go into politics and became governor and proved he was a very competent politician, the idea of eliminating him from contention for president of the US because he dropped out of college is elitist. It would also be pretty stupid.
Sure. When Scott Walker's resume matches Bill Gates', perhaps we should consider looking past his inability to earn a college diploma. Until then, he's out.
Churchill, Goldwater, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, John Major all laugh at you.

College is not nor will it nor should it ever be a requirement to serve public office. That is the great thing about America... anyone can be President.

 
The idea that our President should be a college graduate is "elitist"?
the idea that he/she should be counted out if they don't is.If Bill gates were to go into politics and became governor and proved he was a very competent politician, the idea of eliminating him from contention for president of the US because he dropped out of college is elitist. It would also be pretty stupid.
Sure. When Scott Walker's resume matches Bill Gates', perhaps we should consider looking past his inability to earn a college diploma. Until then, he's out.
So you don't think a college degree matters, just political party. We already knew that.

 

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