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I'm already regretting betting Atlanta after they dragged out those four pickles for the national anthem.
Atlanta1-10-ATL25 (14:56) M.Ryan pass incomplete deep right to J.Jones (R.Sherman).Ok, I'm thinking that first offensive play called for...
Atlanta: a deep pass that is supposed to be a "statement" that the Falcons aren't going to be scared by Seattle. It falls incomplete.
Seattle: an I-formation Marshawn Lynch run left for two yards. It doesn't gain much but sets up the play-action on the very next play.
Great win. Wilson played great but for the first half his runs and Miller were their offense. ATL pass rush was basically non-existent when rushing 4. They'll have to do better next week as I think SF weapons in the passing game are better. Better hope Kaepernick throws another pick-6 next week.Falcons fan and I think it comes down to two things.1. Turnover - stating the obvious but both Def were great at taking the ball away. Turnover battle is huge.2. ATL ability to keep Wilson in the pocket And make him beat him with his arm. I don't think Sea can win with just Lynch (excluding turnovers) but if Wilson makes plays with his legs to keep drives alive then I think they probably win.
I have a feeling Nolan will dial up a few special plays, to make sure the rookie doesn't run like he did on the Packers.'AAABatteries said:Great win. Wilson played great but for the first half his runs and Miller were their offense. ATL pass rush was basically non-existent when rushing 4. They'll have to do better next week as I think SF weapons in the passing game are better. Better hope Kaepernick throws another pick-6 next week.Falcons fan and I think it comes down to two things.1. Turnover - stating the obvious but both Def were great at taking the ball away. Turnover battle is huge.2. ATL ability to keep Wilson in the pocket And make him beat him with his arm. I don't think Sea can win with just Lynch (excluding turnovers) but if Wilson makes plays with his legs to keep drives alive then I think they probably win.
Will be interesting if CK will be patient like Wilson was and not force it. Was very impressed that Wilson kept plays alive with his feet and didn't always just take off. I'd feel better about ATL chances if Abraham was 100%I have a feeling Nolan will dial up a few special plays, to make sure the rookie doesn't run like he did on the Packers.'AAABatteries said:Great win. Wilson played great but for the first half his runs and Miller were their offense. ATL pass rush was basically non-existent when rushing 4. They'll have to do better next week as I think SF weapons in the passing game are better. Better hope Kaepernick throws another pick-6 next week.Falcons fan and I think it comes down to two things.1. Turnover - stating the obvious but both Def were great at taking the ball away. Turnover battle is huge.2. ATL ability to keep Wilson in the pocket And make him beat him with his arm. I don't think Sea can win with just Lynch (excluding turnovers) but if Wilson makes plays with his legs to keep drives alive then I think they probably win.
Seattle's road record is now 4-6.Atlanta home record: 7-1Seattle road record: 3-5 Atlanta record vs (Vick, RGIII, Cam): 7-1 Not quite sure how Seattle is getting soo much love in this game. Atlanta has proven that they can contain running QB's with a 7-1 record overall there last 8 games vs a running QB (3-1 this year vs RGIII/Cam). They have beaten quality teams at home including: Denver, New Orleans, NYG. There only two loses prior to week 17, were on the ROAD against division rivals Carolina and NO, who always play Atlanta tough. There third, and final loss of the year, came at home, in week 17 to division rival, Tampa Bay. In contrast, Seattle was 3-5 on the road, with losses to: Cardinals, Rams, San Fran, Detroit, Miami. Not quite the road warrior the point spread is making them out to be. Yes, they have won 6 straight, but three of those wins came against Buffalo, St. Louis, and the Cardinals. The point spread is being largely influnced by this fact. Additionally, a 10 point road win vs a gimpy RGIII last week. Lets remember that the Skins put up two TD's on there first two drives, prior to RGIII getting gimpy. They were running the ball very well with Morris, and RGIII was making plays threw the air, as well as on the ground. Final Score: Seattle 20 Atlana 27
Seattle's road record is now 4-6.Atlanta home record: 7-1Seattle road record: 3-5 Atlanta record vs (Vick, RGIII, Cam): 7-1 Not quite sure how Seattle is getting soo much love in this game. Atlanta has proven that they can contain running QB's with a 7-1 record overall there last 8 games vs a running QB (3-1 this year vs RGIII/Cam). They have beaten quality teams at home including: Denver, New Orleans, NYG. There only two loses prior to week 17, were on the ROAD against division rivals Carolina and NO, who always play Atlanta tough. There third, and final loss of the year, came at home, in week 17 to division rival, Tampa Bay. In contrast, Seattle was 3-5 on the road, with losses to: Cardinals, Rams, San Fran, Detroit, Miami. Not quite the road warrior the point spread is making them out to be. Yes, they have won 6 straight, but three of those wins came against Buffalo, St. Louis, and the Cardinals. The point spread is being largely influnced by this fact. Additionally, a 10 point road win vs a gimpy RGIII last week. Lets remember that the Skins put up two TD's on there first two drives, prior to RGIII getting gimpy. They were running the ball very well with Morris, and RGIII was making plays threw the air, as well as on the ground. Final Score: Seattle 20 Atlana 27![]()
So this ultimately didn't matter, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this thought during the game:When Sherman jumped offsides trying to block the XP with the Falcons up 19 in the last two minutes of the third quarter, why didn't the Falcons go for two after the line of scrimmage was moved up to the 1? At that point there's 17 minutes of game left, and for there to be a difference between a 19 and 20 point lead the Seahawks would either have to (1) score four more times with two of the scores being field goals and two being TDs; or (2) score two more TDs, convert a two point conversion on both, then get in FG range. On the flip side, the difference between being up 20 and being up 21 is obvious (and almost changed the outcome). That plus the added likelihood of a successful conversion when you're on the one made it a no-brainer, in my opinion. Nobody talked about it since the game seemed well in hand at that point, but I thought it was a huge mistake. Wonder if it would have come up in the postmortem if not for the Falcons' miracle drive.
It's a good point, and one that adds fuel to the fire that Smith was working hard to outmatch Fox for worst coaching honors.So this ultimately didn't matter, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this thought during the game:When Sherman jumped offsides trying to block the XP with the Falcons up 19 in the last two minutes of the third quarter, why didn't the Falcons go for two after the line of scrimmage was moved up to the 1? At that point there's 17 minutes of game left, and for there to be a difference between a 19 and 20 point lead the Seahawks would either have to (1) score four more times with two of the scores being field goals and two being TDs; or (2) score two more TDs, convert a two point conversion on both, then get in FG range. On the flip side, the difference between being up 20 and being up 21 is obvious (and almost changed the outcome). That plus the added likelihood of a successful conversion when you're on the one made it a no-brainer, in my opinion. Nobody talked about it since the game seemed well in hand at that point, but I thought it was a huge mistake. Wonder if it would have come up in the postmortem if not for the Falcons' miracle drive.
He's all over the Russell Wilson thread. Would never guess why he hasn't found his way back into this thread yet.......Has anyone seen ITS yet?
I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
I was wondering about this myself during the broadcast. I figured that at some point in time the Seahawks wouldn't have enough possessions to win with 2 TDs and 2 FGs and going for 2 was a no brainer.So this ultimately didn't matter, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this thought during the game:When Sherman jumped offsides trying to block the XP with the Falcons up 19 in the last two minutes of the third quarter, why didn't the Falcons go for two after the line of scrimmage was moved up to the 1? At that point there's 17 minutes of game left, and for there to be a difference between a 19 and 20 point lead the Seahawks would either have to (1) score four more times with two of the scores being field goals and two being TDs; or (2) score two more TDs, convert a two point conversion on both, then get in FG range. On the flip side, the difference between being up 20 and being up 21 is obvious (and almost changed the outcome). That plus the added likelihood of a successful conversion when you're on the one made it a no-brainer, in my opinion. Nobody talked about it since the game seemed well in hand at that point, but I thought it was a huge mistake. Wonder if it would have come up in the postmortem if not for the Falcons' miracle drive.
Oddly enough, if they HAD gone for the 2-pt conversion there are two different scenarios that would have happened:1. They convert and if/when Seattle scores their 4th TD it ties the game. Atlanta may not have rushed the last couple of throws to get the final FG may not have happened--it's possible a different outcome occurs here as Russell Wilson was certainly driving for TDs.2. They *don't* convert (putting them at 26 points) and then on Seattle's final TD they *do* go for the 2-pt conversion. If they make that the FG at the end ties the game and again leaves it open for a different outcome.Ultimately, Atlanta's (bad) decision to not go for 2 might have actually been the best choice given the hindsight we are allowed right now.I was wondering about this myself during the broadcast. I figured that at some point in time the Seahawks wouldn't have enough possessions to win with 2 TDs and 2 FGs and going for 2 was a no brainer.So this ultimately didn't matter, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this thought during the game:When Sherman jumped offsides trying to block the XP with the Falcons up 19 in the last two minutes of the third quarter, why didn't the Falcons go for two after the line of scrimmage was moved up to the 1? At that point there's 17 minutes of game left, and for there to be a difference between a 19 and 20 point lead the Seahawks would either have to (1) score four more times with two of the scores being field goals and two being TDs; or (2) score two more TDs, convert a two point conversion on both, then get in FG range. On the flip side, the difference between being up 20 and being up 21 is obvious (and almost changed the outcome). That plus the added likelihood of a successful conversion when you're on the one made it a no-brainer, in my opinion. Nobody talked about it since the game seemed well in hand at that point, but I thought it was a huge mistake. Wonder if it would have come up in the postmortem if not for the Falcons' miracle drive.
You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
OP of this topic has been noticably silent since the loss as well. The two most vocal (as far as most confident braggarts...ms is vocal but was much more level headed about this game).I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.Of course he won't show up in this thread. He needs to come eat some crow.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
You people are pathetic. Seriously, just take a moment to look at what you're doing right now and realize how actually pathetic it is. If you can't see it, then you're too young to notice or too stupid. Either way, I guarantee ITS doesn't care about you bumping this thread. Keep doing it until you no longer are on this board. It's surprising how much that guy got into your heads.'devouredbychaos said:You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.Of course he won't show up in this thread. He needs to come eat some crow.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
Why so mad?Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?You people are pathetic. Seriously, just take a moment to look at what you're doing right now and realize how actually pathetic it is. If you can't see it, then you're too young to notice or too stupid. Either way, I guarantee ITS doesn't care about you bumping this thread. Keep doing it until you no longer are on this board. It's surprising how much that guy got into your heads.'devouredbychaos said:You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.Of course he won't show up in this thread. He needs to come eat some crow.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?
I get why people want to trash ITS for his incessant mouth running coupled with a completely cowardly turtle maneuver afterwards. I don't get why any Seahawks fans would object to it or in any way make it look like they're defending him. He made the bed, let him sleep in it.Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?
ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?
I don't know. Why are YOU letting all these people get into YOUR head just for calling ITS out? lol. Funny that ITS can talk smack and folks should stay cool, but if others talk smack on ITS, they are pathetic. OK, got it.The truth is, ITS got on this board and talked a lot of arrogant smack and as soon as his team loses, he vanishes from the thread. That rubs people the wrong way and they are calling him out on it. There is a sense of "fair play" that if you talk crap, you then take your medicine. That said, if he's big enough to talk smack, let him be big enough to come in here and defend himself. I don't see why he needs others to fight his battles for him; in fact, it's doubly pathetic that he's letting you take heat for him, while he's off hiding. Of course, if he wants to run away with his tail between his legs as soon as his team loses, he can do that too. But, people are free to judge him as a loud mouth coward if he does. He certainly didn't hold back his comments on others prior to the Seahawks losing...You people are pathetic. Seriously, just take a moment to look at what you're doing right now and realize how actually pathetic it is. If you can't see it, then you're too young to notice or too stupid. Either way, I guarantee ITS doesn't care about you bumping this thread. Keep doing it until you no longer are on this board. It's surprising how much that guy got into your heads.'devouredbychaos said:You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.Of course he won't show up in this thread. He needs to come eat some crow.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
To me?Not so much.Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?
ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?
I don't give two ####s about ITS (since I never talk or reply to him anymore), but if you are gonna talk smack, at least have the balls to man up and show up when you were wrong. It's like the threads where people post bold predictions and then are dead wrong; most are quick to give them mad props when they show up in the thread and take their "medicine" for taking the online heat for being so wrong on a prediction. Being wrong is not a big deal; all of us are wrong sometimes. But not having the balls to show your face says a lot more about the person refusing to do so than it does about the people wondering where he disappeared to.You people are pathetic. Seriously, just take a moment to look at what you're doing right now and realize how actually pathetic it is. If you can't see it, then you're too young to notice or too stupid. Either way, I guarantee ITS doesn't care about you bumping this thread. Keep doing it until you no longer are on this board. It's surprising how much that guy got into your heads.
That doesn't jive. You brought up accountability. Your words.To me?Not so much.ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?
I think you guys all look bad, that's just my opinion. Having continual and repeated pissing contests is a choice. You can do that if you want to I guess. It annoys me, but then that's my problem.I would rather just have the discussion about football. For instance, you made a post in this thread about Seattle blitzing more than expected. I agree with you. I thought was a significant story from the game. Seattle had to try and bring more pressure via the blitz due to the lack of pass rush from their D-line. The final play from scrimmage showed just how important this was. Seattle brought a safety and Rogers did a great job of picking him up allowing Gonzalez to make perhaps the most important catch of the game before the field goal. If they D-line could have applied more pressure perhaps that safety is back in coverage in front of Gonzales. Perhaps...Kid can do what he wants...but he will be hounded and should be the rest of his time here because of how brash he was.
I brought it up about him being accountable here.Its not to me personally...you realize there are other people on this board right?That doesn't jive. You brought up accountability. Your words.To me?Not so much.ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?I think you guys all look bad, that's just my opinion. Having continual and repeated pissing contests is a choice. You can do that if you want to I guess. It annoys me, but then that's my problem.I would rather just have the discussion about football. For instance, you made a post in this thread about Seattle blitzing more than expected. I agree with you. I thought was a significant story from the game. Seattle had to try and bring more pressure via the blitz due to the lack of pass rush from their D-line. The final play from scrimmage showed just how important this was. Seattle brought a safety and Rogers did a great job of picking him up allowing Gonzalez to make perhaps the most important catch of the game before the field goal. If they D-line could have applied more pressure perhaps that safety is back in coverage in front of Gonzales. Perhaps...Kid can do what he wants...but he will be hounded and should be the rest of his time here because of how brash he was.
This is a discussion about football. We want to hear ITS' thoughts on the Seahawks chances this week.That doesn't jive. You brought up accountability. Your words.To me?Not so much.ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?I think you guys all look bad, that's just my opinion. Having continual and repeated pissing contests is a choice. You can do that if you want to I guess. It annoys me, but then that's my problem.I would rather just have the discussion about football. For instance, you made a post in this thread about Seattle blitzing more than expected. I agree with you. I thought was a significant story from the game. Seattle had to try and bring more pressure via the blitz due to the lack of pass rush from their D-line. The final play from scrimmage showed just how important this was. Seattle brought a safety and Rogers did a great job of picking him up allowing Gonzalez to make perhaps the most important catch of the game before the field goal. If they D-line could have applied more pressure perhaps that safety is back in coverage in front of Gonzales. Perhaps...Kid can do what he wants...but he will be hounded and should be the rest of his time here because of how brash he was.
I get why people want to trash ITS for his incessant mouth running coupled with a completely cowardly turtle maneuver afterwards. I don't get why any Seahawks fans would object to it or in any way make it look like they're defending him. He made the bed, let him sleep in it.Whats wrong with actually trying to have someone show some accountability for running their mouths non-stop about a game?
ITS annoys the crap out of me. That said, why do feel that an anonymous internet troll should be accountable to you?
Why so defensive? I personally don't care one way or the other but ITS is the ultimate tool on this board. If people want to spend their time flooding his IMs with hate, so be it. I don't consider that behavior any more pathetic than his behavior on the same message board. It's funny...a few Hawks fans in here claim that they can't stand ITS but they always seem to defend him..........You people are pathetic. Seriously, just take a moment to look at what you're doing right now and realize how actually pathetic it is. If you can't see it, then you're too young to notice or too stupid. Either way, I guarantee ITS doesn't care about you bumping this thread. Keep doing it until you no longer are on this board. It's surprising how much that guy got into your heads.'devouredbychaos said:You're right, we should't expect anything less from him than run like a coward. However, I sent him a personal message to come join us here. Maybe he will redeem himself, but I wouldn't count on it.Of course he won't show up in this thread. He needs to come eat some crow.I'm assuming he's in the non-Seahawks-loss-related threads making baseless claims about topics other than this one. Would you expect any less from him? He's quick to run away with his tail between his legs and act as if nothing ever happened.Has anyone seen ITS yet?
Your vague "a few Hawks fans" is garbage. You're talking about me. I've never defended ITS. If you're talking about someone else be specific. When two idiots go at each other I call it like I see it. Calling one of them a doosh doesn't mean you are defending the other one. I can link to multiple times where I call him out for being a doosh. Can you link to multiple posts where you call out a fan our your home team after they've been a complete doosh?...a few Hawks fans in here claim that they can't stand ITS but they always seem to defend him..........![]()
When Bryant kicked that FG all I could picture was ITS crying for his mommy.
Your vague "a few Hawks fans" is garbage. You're talking about me. I've never defended ITS. If you're talking about someone else be specific. When two idiots go at each other I call it like I see it. Calling one of them a doosh doesn't mean you are defending the other one. I can link to multiple times where I call him out for being a doosh. Can you link to multiple posts where you call out a fan our your home team after they've been a complete doosh?...a few Hawks fans in here claim that they can't stand ITS but they always seem to defend him..........![]()
Come on ......You don't even believe that.I cant believe no one has the guts to just speak the sad but brutally stark and disgusting truth. But I will and I am not afraid of the backlash:All Seattle Seahawks fans = ITS
Just a little note in context, most Hawks fans hate ITS. ITS alienates himself, even on Seahawks message boards. He was run off of one of the most popular Hawks boards (Seahawks.net) in a few months. His behavior isn't schtick, he is just an ####### plain and simple. The problem is, he actually is tuned into the team really well. If you over look the over the top bravado that he posts with, you can see he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, he runs everything he touches into the ground. Just like I am sure Packers fans don't want to be lumped in with Sho Nuff, or Bears fans don't want to be lumped in with Sweetness, none of the Hawks fans around here are going to throw in with ITS. If any of us defend his points, it is only because he does know what he is talking about when it comes to the Hawks. I don't think any of us would defend his attitude, or posting style. HTH. Me, personally, I am just happy that the Hawks are back in the news again. People hating the Hawks is better than the pure indifference so many felt for so long.I actually wasn't referring to you or any other Hawk fan specifically. I apologize for speaking in general terms. It just seems like anytime someone rips on ITS, they get ripped themselves. I see nothing wrong with anyone ripping on ITS after all the garbage he's spewed the past couple months. Anyways, you don't have to provide me any links because I remember you ripping on him. I've been on this forum a long time and I honestly can't remember if I've ever called anyone a "complete doosh". With that said, I'm sure there are plenty of dooshes that support my team as well. ITS just sticks out because the Seahawks have become a popular topic lately. Hopefully this thread will die now because ITS is not coming back in here.
Just a little note in context, most Hawks fans hate ITS. ITS alienates himself, even on Seahawks message boards. He was run off of one of the most popular Hawks boards (Seahawks.net) in a few months. His behavior isn't schtick, he is just an ####### plain and simple. The problem is, he actually is tuned into the team really well. If you over look the over the top bravado that he posts with, you can see he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, he runs everything he touches into the ground. Just like I am sure Packers fans don't want to be lumped in with Sho Nuff, or Bears fans don't want to be lumped in with Sweetness, none of the Hawks fans around here are going to throw in with ITS. If any of us defend his points, it is only because he does know what he is talking about when it comes to the Hawks. I don't think any of us would defend his attitude, or posting style. HTH.I actually wasn't referring to you or any other Hawk fan specifically. I apologize for speaking in general terms. It just seems like anytime someone rips on ITS, they get ripped themselves. I see nothing wrong with anyone ripping on ITS after all the garbage he's spewed the past couple months. Anyways, you don't have to provide me any links because I remember you ripping on him.
I've been on this forum a long time and I honestly can't remember if I've ever called anyone a "complete doosh". With that said, I'm sure there are plenty of dooshes that support my team as well. ITS just sticks out because the Seahawks have become a popular topic lately. Hopefully this thread will die now because ITS is not coming back in here.
Me, personally, I am just happy that the Hawks are back in the news again. People hating the Hawks is better than the pure indifference so many felt for so long.
Again, while I do post a lot...and will post back and forth with anyone.If I ever get to the point of bragging like those 2...please shoot me.You won't see that type of trash talk from me. Never have...never will.and if I do post something, I back it up...and if questioned on it or if Im wrong, I man up to when Im wrong.But I get that my volume turns people off...I do get that. Just please don't lump me in with people that act as ITS and Sweetness do...its quite a different kind of think IMO.Just a little note in context, most Hawks fans hate ITS. ITS alienates himself, even on Seahawks message boards. He was run off of one of the most popular Hawks boards (Seahawks.net) in a few months. His behavior isn't schtick, he is just an ####### plain and simple. The problem is, he actually is tuned into the team really well. If you over look the over the top bravado that he posts with, you can see he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, he runs everything he touches into the ground. Just like I am sure Packers fans don't want to be lumped in with Sho Nuff, or Bears fans don't want to be lumped in with Sweetness, none of the Hawks fans around here are going to throw in with ITS. If any of us defend his points, it is only because he does know what he is talking about when it comes to the Hawks. I don't think any of us would defend his attitude, or posting style. HTH. Me, personally, I am just happy that the Hawks are back in the news again. People hating the Hawks is better than the pure indifference so many felt for so long.I actually wasn't referring to you or any other Hawk fan specifically. I apologize for speaking in general terms. It just seems like anytime someone rips on ITS, they get ripped themselves. I see nothing wrong with anyone ripping on ITS after all the garbage he's spewed the past couple months. Anyways, you don't have to provide me any links because I remember you ripping on him. I've been on this forum a long time and I honestly can't remember if I've ever called anyone a "complete doosh". With that said, I'm sure there are plenty of dooshes that support my team as well. ITS just sticks out because the Seahawks have become a popular topic lately. Hopefully this thread will die now because ITS is not coming back in here.