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Sean Jones - 1 yr/Philly (1 Viewer)

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not a good landing place for him......hopefully he plays out 1 year and goes back to his natural SS position

 
Eagles | S. Jones signed

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:34:09 -0800

Rob Maaddi, of The Associated Press, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have signed unrestricted free-agent SS Sean Jones (Browns) to a one-year deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.

Yeah... as a Jones owner, I'm not excited

 
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stevegamer said:
Franchise Playa said:
pinda said:
not a good landing place for him......hopefully he plays out 1 year and goes back to his natural SS position
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Is he hurt that bad that teams were scared to give him a longer contract?
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The word is that he wanted a one year deal. I suspect playing well on a good team before an uncapped year might make him some money.
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That's what I thought too. Did Mikell play well enough down the stretch to make Jones move to FS & if so, Dawkins put up solid IDP #'s from that spot in '08, couldn't Jones do the same?
 
Not the best of landing spots for Jones unfortunately, but it's not horrible. He's got the big play ability to make a 65 solo tackle season work. He's very unlikely to be a top tier DB1 now, but he's got DB2 upside still. It'll be interesting to see how they use the two safeties.

With Wilson and Jones off the market now, I don't see anyone standing in Brandon Meriweather's way. He's looking like this season's Yeremiah Bell to me.

 
Born to Run said:
Does this affect Quinten Demps value? Don't know much about him. Any Iggle homers care to comment???
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It sure doesn't increase it unless someone gets hurt.He'll be the 3rd safety (the 4th is B. Parker from the Canadian league)Probably keep playing in the dime package
 
Mikell is slated to be the SS and Jones will compete with Demps for the FS spot, but ya have to figure Jones is the heavy favorite.

Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert said Mikell and Jones will likely be interchangeable at the safety positions in defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's scheme."It's whoever Jim wants to bring down in the box," Heckert said. "It's not really a true strong-safety, free-safety scheme. I think we can just kind of maneuver who you want down there."

Safety Jones signs one-year deal with Eagles

 
Larry Thomas said:
Mikell is slated to be the SS and Jones will compete with Demps for the FS spot, but ya have to figure Jones is the heavy favorite.

Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert said Mikell and Jones will likely be interchangeable at the safety positions in defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's scheme."It's whoever Jim wants to bring down in the box," Heckert said. "It's not really a true strong-safety, free-safety scheme. I think we can just kind of maneuver who you want down there."
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The Browns used Jones in a SS by committee last year. So now he moves to what looks like a FS by committee. This does not look promising...
 
Born to Run said:
Larry Thomas said:
Mikell is slated to be the SS and Jones will compete with Demps for the FS spot, but ya have to figure Jones is the heavy favorite.

Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert said Mikell and Jones will likely be interchangeable at the safety positions in defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's scheme."It's whoever Jim wants to bring down in the box," Heckert said. "It's not really a true strong-safety, free-safety scheme. I think we can just kind of maneuver who you want down there."
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The Browns used Jones in a SS by committee last year. So now he moves to what looks like a FS by committee. This does not look promising...
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Cream rises to the top...If healthy I don't think he will have a problem winning the job and playing well.
 
Born to Run said:
Larry Thomas said:
Mikell is slated to be the SS and Jones will compete with Demps for the FS spot, but ya have to figure Jones is the heavy favorite.

Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert said Mikell and Jones will likely be interchangeable at the safety positions in defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's scheme."It's whoever Jim wants to bring down in the box," Heckert said. "It's not really a true strong-safety, free-safety scheme. I think we can just kind of maneuver who you want down there."
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The Browns used Jones in a SS by committee last year. So now he moves to what looks like a FS by committee. This does not look promising...
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Don't think we're looking at a FS by committee here. Heckert says it's not really a true SS, FS scheme. Good news for Jones' owners, he could see as much time in-the-box as Mikell. Sean's playing for a very good coach in McDermott, whether that be as DB or DC. I'm warming up to this.
 
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Franchise Playa said:
Born to Run said:
Larry Thomas said:
Mikell is slated to be the SS and Jones will compete with Demps for the FS spot, but ya have to figure Jones is the heavy favorite.

Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert said Mikell and Jones will likely be interchangeable at the safety positions in defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's scheme."It's whoever Jim wants to bring down in the box," Heckert said. "It's not really a true strong-safety, free-safety scheme. I think we can just kind of maneuver who you want down there."
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The Browns used Jones in a SS by committee last year. So now he moves to what looks like a FS by committee. This does not look promising...
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Cream rises to the top...If healthy I don't think he will have a problem winning the job and playing well.
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How so ?? Mikell is a very good player .
 
I think he meant over Demps....Mikell & Jones both starting at Safety & "taking turns" (interchangeable) playing in the box - Is the way I interpreted the post & article. Demps would play in certain packages....

 
Demps really shouldn't have been thought of as a starting safety going into this whole FA period. If the Eagles started him, it would be a cause for concern.

 
As far as the Browns replacing Sean Jones at SS, tonight they OFFERED Abram Elam from the NY Jets a contract. The Jets have the right to match it first though, since Elam was a tendered Free Agent. The Jets just signed Leonhard from the Ravens though & already have Rhodes & Brown rostered so they might not match the Browns offer.

The Browns also re-signed S Mike Adams earlier during free agency....

 
For what it's worth, Rotoworld is quoting Andy Reid as saying that Demps will be given the "first chance" to start @ FS over Jones in Philly....Also, since the Jets matched Clevelands tender offer & kept Elam, it looks like Mike Adams is in line to start @ SS for the Browns now (pre-draft of course) replacing Jones. Any thoughts on his value there?

 
Fighting Noles said:
For what it's worth, Rotoworld is quoting Andy Reid as saying that Demps will be given the "first chance" to start @ FS over Jones in Philly....Also, since the Jets matched Clevelands tender offer & kept Elam, it looks like Mike Adams is in line to start @ SS for the Browns now (pre-draft of course) replacing Jones. Any thoughts on his value there?
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You have to think Mike Adams is going to be replaced ...
 
Fighting Noles said:
For what it's worth, Rotoworld is quoting Andy Reid as saying that Demps will be given the "first chance" to start @ FS over Jones in Philly....
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Lip service from Reid.Jones inked a $3M deal and just for a year. Jones will start and look to make a name for himself (again) in the NFL, lining him up for a big payday in 2010.As for FS/SS, the Eagles are pretty split in how they split up those roles. Dawkins or Mikell could go down in the box last year and make big hits/tackles. With Jones and Mikell both better than Dawkins in coverage, look for this to be an even split between them.
 
Rotoworld) Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson revealed that Sean Jones will practice strictly at strong safety this offseason. Analysis: It's Jones' best position, but he'll have to beat out Quintin Mikell to start. We have to think Jones will because Philly is paying him $3 million. That would mean Mikell and Quintin Demps are competing at free safety.

KFFL) Chris McPherson, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles SS Sean Jones will practice only at strong safety during the offseason.

:lmao:

 
Mikell and Demps will start. Sean Jones will play safety in dime situations with Demps moving to coverage.

Sean Jones is a very good player, so it will be a good competition - but the favorite is easily Mikell to see the field. Demps and Jones will contest for the other spot.

 
I don't understand why Jones would sign here on a 1-year deal if he's unlikely to start. But, I assumed he would have to move to FS to do so. Given how the Eagles used Dawkins, I don't think that would hurt his numbers too much.

 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
I don't understand why Jones would sign here on a 1-year deal if he's unlikely to start. But, I assumed he would have to move to FS to do so. Given how the Eagles used Dawkins, I don't think that would hurt his numbers too much.
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It was insurance in case Demps wasn't ready.I am amused by the Rotoworld comment that Mikell is competing for a starting job. :yes:
 
Zoomanji said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I don't understand why Jones would sign here on a 1-year deal if he's unlikely to start. But, I assumed he would have to move to FS to do so. Given how the Eagles used Dawkins, I don't think that would hurt his numbers too much.
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It was insurance in case Demps wasn't ready.I am amused by the Rotoworld comment that Mikell is competing for a starting job. :yawn:
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Rotoworld is often speculative in their comments.I remember seeing nearly consecutive news blurbs a week or two ago about a QB (Todd Bouman) getting cut and likely to struggle to find a home - but was signed the next day.They're clearly not in touch with Philadelphia's actions, as they are also declaring Kevin Curtis a clear starter over Maclin as well.
 
Zoomanji said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I don't understand why Jones would sign here on a 1-year deal if he's unlikely to start. But, I assumed he would have to move to FS to do so. Given how the Eagles used Dawkins, I don't think that would hurt his numbers too much.
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It was insurance in case Demps wasn't ready.I am amused by the Rotoworld comment that Mikell is competing for a starting job. :goodposting:
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that's why the Eagles signed him, but it doesn't explain why Jones chose to sign in Philly. He's obviously a great get for them, but it doesn't make sense for him to sign a 1-year deal and play a backup role if he wants to land a big contract in free agency next year. Not sure why they'd keep him at SS for the offseason if Mikell is likely a lock to start there either.
 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
Zoomanji said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I don't understand why Jones would sign here on a 1-year deal if he's unlikely to start. But, I assumed he would have to move to FS to do so. Given how the Eagles used Dawkins, I don't think that would hurt his numbers too much.
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It was insurance in case Demps wasn't ready.I am amused by the Rotoworld comment that Mikell is competing for a starting job. :goodposting:
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that's why the Eagles signed him, but it doesn't explain why Jones chose to sign in Philly. He's obviously a great get for them, but it doesn't make sense for him to sign a 1-year deal and play a backup role if he wants to land a big contract in free agency next year. Not sure why they'd keep him at SS for the offseason if Mikell is likely a lock to start there either.
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They paid him a good chunk of change to be a "backup" or to rotate. We will have to see what they do when camp starts, cause I don't buy that Mikell is locked in at SS just yet.
 
Per GM Tom Heckert, the Eagles do not play a true strong safety / free safety scheme, they like their safeties interchangible. At times one will play cover safety the other run safety and vice versa. Jones is probably the most talented safety on the roster, he has the opportunity to play for one of the best DB coaches in the game in Sean McDermott, who is now defensive coordinator. Jeff knows the Eagles far better than I, however I find it difficult to beleive Jones will not start.
 
More on Sean Jones...

"I definitely like my chances," Jones said. "I'm still confident, and once I get the scheme down, get the defense down and get comfortable, it's going to be hard to keep me off the field."

If it works that way, the 6-foot-1, 225-pound Jones could beat out Demps for the free safety spot, or he could start at strong safety, with Mikell moving over to free. In some ways, there's nothing much in what name the position has.

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I agree... once Jones gets comfortable, it will be hard to keep him off the field.

 
Somehow I just don't see Mikell and Demps keeping Sean Jones off the field. Also as others have pointed out, why would he go to Philly for 1 year to ride the bench ?

 
Look for Sean Jones to be the run stopper in the defensive scheme. Jones also blitzed alot in cleveland so i think he falls perfect for jim johnsons scheme. Look for mikel and demps to be in on passing downs jones did not show greatness on coverage he would be in on first and second down in the 4-3 scheme and look for demps in the nickle and dime.

 
The eagles are also deep on corners so look for alot of nickle and dime. Demps,Jones,mikel,hobbs,samuel,and brown. So the eagles look deep at the db spots so they are welcoming the pass so jones will be the run stopper if he stays healthy that is why the one year deal prove that you can stay healthy and get a big deal.

 
bigal0303 said:
The eagles are also deep on corners so look for alot of nickle and dime. Demps,Jones,mikel,hobbs,samuel,and brown. So the eagles look deep at the db spots so they are welcoming the pass so jones will be the run stopper if he stays healthy that is why the one year deal prove that you can stay healthy and get a big deal.
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Demps was used often in Nickel and/or Dime at corner last year, so I could see this happening in Nickel packages this year.Demps' flexibility gives the Eagles lots of options in the secondary. Mikell is going to be tough to get off of the field as he should play SS, which won't do wonders for Sean Jones' numbers even if he does get significant playing time.
 
PHILADELPHIA -- With less than two weeks remaining before the season opener, the Eagles have all starting positions locked down except one.

And the fact that Quintin Demps hasn't already nailed down the free safety job isn't sitting well with the second-year pro.

Moments after coach Andy Reid said the job is still "an open competition" between Demps, free agent signee Sean Jones and promising rookie Macho Harris, Demps said that "it's kind of irritating" that the search for Brian Dawkins' successor is ongoing.

Demps even suggested that the reluctance of Reid and defensive coordinator Sean McDermott to name a starter comes down to issues outside of football.

"I know the exact reason why, but it's not for the media [to know]," Demps told The News Journal. " It's unfortunate that that reason makes it happen, but whatever man."

Demps was asked if he had been involved in an off-field incident that might have influenced the coaches' decision, but the 2008 fifth-round pick refused to answer.

"Next question," he responded

"I kind of feel like I let it get me off my game a little bit," he said. "Just the fact that it's one thing to have confidence in yourself, but if the people around you don't have confidence in you then it's kind of hard to deal with."

Even after the offseason signing of Jones, a former starter for the Browns, the Eagles said Demps was the leading candidate. He worked with the first team through the spring camps and training camp.

"There are really three guys battling for that spot and I know all three can play, so I'm confident in that and it's just a matter of getting to where you pick out that one guy to do it," Reid said. "And they understand that there's a competition there and they've got to continue to perform well."

But Demps said, "It's just unfortunate that the last game of the preseason you have to decide who's going to be the starter."

Demps also accepted blame for not seizing control of the position. Plays he didn't make in the preseason keep going through his mind instead of the ones he did, like the fumble recovery and 20-yard return in the third quarter against the Jaguars that set up the team's first touchdown.

"I go back and I feel like if I had played better in some of those games we wouldn't be having this discussion," he said. "At the same time, I'm a young dude in this league. I'm going to make mistakes. That's part of what the preseason is for, to learn from your mistakes, so once the season comes around you're ready for it."

Geoff Mosher at gemosher@delawareonline.com.

Battle remains for Eagles' free safety job

 
Macho Harris took 1st team reps on Monday according to: http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/

Quintin Demps entered this year's training camp as the starting free safety. He remained in that spot for all four preseason games. However, Demps told reporters following Monday's 10-10-10 practice that it was Macho Harris who took the first-team reps in the workout.

"We're all men. We all could tell that I wasn't being consistent enough," Demps said. "There's no sugarcoating it in the NFL. It is what it is.

"We're still competing. It's still a competition. I just have to go in there and compete every day. Keep it moving."

 
Thanks philly battery, was gettin ready to post this. I guess Jones is out of the picture.
 
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Always, ALWAYS have loved Macho Harris.

He is for real, and he's getting his shot a year earlier than I expected.

I touted him some in the Philly thread during the draft (I'll dig it up) and was THRILLED that Philly rolled the dice on him.

If you have room, grab him.

 
Is Jones relegated to just being a role player for Philly? He always seemed to be a solid performer in Cleveland, so I was surprised to see him get so little interest in free agency this offseason, and doubly surprised that he hasn't showed enough to wiggle his way into a starting spot in Philly (or at least into a heavier rotation). Was the performance in Cleveland more about situation than talent?

Any insights into what next offseason brings for him? Another deal somewhere as NFL depth? Will he get back to a starting spot somewhere?

 
Man I missed this all the way, I thought too much of Jones. He's not great in coverage, but thought he had more than enough needed to be a starter. I'm puzzled, it should be a one and done deal in Philly. I would think he draws interest, but I was one who was sure he would start in Philly. He has an injury history, maybe he's had one too many and lost a step.
 
anyone that watched the eagles play last week, how was Sean Jones used? was he used as a true FS or was he around the LOS/in the box alot? i can't imagine the Eagles using him in centerfield or in coverage all the time when he's kinda a liability in that aspect.

 
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