Sean Taylor in BIG trouble (1 Viewer)

[Noahs Troopers]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2075361

Updated: June 3, 2005, 5:00 PM ET

Police call Taylor 'person of interest' in investigationESPN.com news services

The Dade County Police Department is looking for safety Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, a former Miami Hurricane star.

Detective Robert Williams, a public information officer for the Dade County police department, said Friday that Taylor is "a person of interest" in an ongoing investigation regarding an alleged crime, which Williams would not detail. According to Williams, "a person of interest" means Taylor could be a subject, victim or witness of an alleged crime and that the police department was looking for him. He would not say whether there was an arrest warrant out for Taylor.

An NFL source tells ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the league has gotten a communication from the Dade County Police Department, which says there is a warrant out for Taylor's arrest in regards to an alleged assault with a weapon. Another NFL source, involved in league security, tells Mortensen that he has been told by Dade County police that there will be an arrest warrant issued for Taylor if he does not turn himself in by 5 p.m. ET Friday. The NFL security source also said that no one was hurt in the alleged incident.

Taylor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who says he has not spoken with Taylor, says he has no knowledge of any problems involving Dade County Police and Taylor.

Taylor was the Redskins' No. 1 pick (fifth overall) in the 2004 draft.

If he did this, let's just say non celebrities go to prison for a nice chunk of time on their first offense. Isn't this the same ######## who got off with a DUI because he called reciting his ABCs too hard, only kids would know?

 

[MBH_14]

interesting

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

happy days for Tagliabue

 

[mad sweeney]

I don't know how they do it in Florida, but they usually don't issue arrest warrants (or demand they turn themselves in) for victims or witnesses.

 

[ko-jack]

one thing you never want to be labled... is a person of interest

 

[ComebackKurt]

Another in the long line of phenoms from "The U" ... short for D"U"I or the "U"sual suspects. (And god yes I loved that movie!) Do you have to have a prior to get a scholarship offer?

One would have thought Nate Newton would have been a former Hurricane himself...

Okay, I am done here.

 

[buster c]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camptalk to me in September. if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

 

[jurb26]

Where are all the legal gurus who patrol this board? We need your thoughts....

 

[The Man With No Name]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

 

[ComebackKurt]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September. if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

The problem with Rae Carruth is he went to Colorado and they don't teach them how to commit murder and get off... Shouldv'e went to the "U" Rae.

 

[fatness]

Sportstalk 980 covers the Redskins heavily in the DC area. They called the Dade County police around 5:30 pm to get information. The Dade County police told them Taylor is wanted for questioning in an incident involving assault with a weapon; would not reveal whether Taylor was victim, suspect, or witness; said that at this time there is no arrest warrant out for Taylor.

SportsTalk 980

 

[tommyGunZ]

Thank god the Giants took Rivers instead of Taylor for the Bolts last year.

 

[BassNBrew]

Thank god the Giants took Rivers instead of Taylor for the Bolts last year.

Excellent point, you would have been unbearable to be around after the Chargers had won the Super Bowl.

 

[Beaumont]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

No. There are verbal assualts and I think depending on the state brandishing a gun by itself can be an assault ...Edited to add Im not a criminal law lawyer and I am sure the state statutes control ...

 

[coolnerd]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

 

[raceguy]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

No. There are verbal assualts and I think depending on the state brandishing a gun by itself can be an assault ...Edited to add Im not a criminal law lawyer and I am sure the state statutes control ...

If I can recall from a law course back in College, I think assualt is basically a threat which appears imminent. Battery is typically when someone gets injured. A person can be charged with both or each one idividually.Yes, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

 

[jurb26]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

No. There are verbal assualts and I think depending on the state brandishing a gun by itself can be an assault ...Edited to add Im not a criminal law lawyer and I am sure the state statutes control ...

If I can recall from a law course back in College, I think assualt is basically a threat which appears imminent. Battery is typically when someone gets injured. A person can be charged with both or each one idividually.Yes, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

 

[Beaumont]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

No. There are verbal assualts and I think depending on the state brandishing a gun by itself can be an assault ...Edited to add Im not a criminal law lawyer and I am sure the state statutes control ...

If I can recall from a law course back in College, I think assualt is basically a threat which appears imminent. Battery is typically when someone gets injured. A person can be charged with both or each one idividually.Yes, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Under the common law, yes. But most criminal statutes are codified (statutes) ...Florida's assault statute, in its entirety, provides as follows:

784.011. Assault

(1) An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.

(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What's really funny is, Taylor has turned out better than Winslow as far as headaches are concerned.

 

[fatness]

Another Sportstalk 980 report from talking to Dade County police: A vehicle was shot up, Taylor is someone they want to talk to, no word on whether he's victim, suspect, or witness, they've been unable to contact him so far, have called the Redskins about it, no warrant issued at present time.

 

[nittanylion]

"...and The Curse goes on and on..." - Daniel Snyder is indeed The Ancient Mariner who done killed the albatross.I didn't always believe in curses, but I'm tellin' ya, fellow 'skins fans - This crap is gonna continue until JKC's name goes back on the stadium, and they swap out those FedEx awnings for our beloved Burgundy and Gold. Man, driving up to that stadium, you'd think you were on your way to a Jamaican Carnival, not the battlefield of our once proud franchise. Absolutely disgraceful. I think Jesus summed it up pretty well - "My God, my God - why have you forsaken me?" What's next?

 

[Johnny Ice]

 

[buster c]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

 

[coolnerd]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

Oh, these are the "voluntary" workouts. You are closer to the situation. Is this one of those where only like 3 people per team have the stones not to "volunteer?"

 

[salmonstud]

Doesn't the NFL have something in the rookie orientation about it not being a good idea to carry a handgun and play gangsta? If the NFL implemented a policy where players could only listen to country music or Christian Rock this would no longer be a problem. Believe me I know what I'm talking about...everytime I pop in some Tupac....I want to go and bust a cap.

 

[Fear The Turtle]

If we need to find out what constitutes an assault we could probably contact Taylor's father, who is a #######' SHERIFF, I believe. And what a proud one he must be right about now.

 

[fatness]

Yahoo Sports article

MIAMI - Miami-Dade County police were looking Friday for Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, who they describe as a "person of interest" in an assault case. "We need to speak to him, we don't know if he's a victim, witness or suspect," said police spokesman Mary Walters.

The assault happened Wednesday night and shots were fired, Walters said. No one was injured. Walters said she didn't have further details and police were still investigating.

Taylor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, declined comment Friday. Taylor and the Redskins didn't immediately return phone messages seeking comment. Taylor, who wants a new contract, has been working out in Miami despite pleas from coach Joe Gibbs to join the team in voluntary workouts at their home base in suburban Washington. He signed a seven-year, $18 million deal as the No. 5 overall draft pick in the 2004 draft.

The former Miami Hurricanes standout has had a tempestuous start to his NFL career.

He has fired two agents, was fined for skipping one day of the NFL's mandatory rookie symposium and was accused of spitting on a player during a game at Cincinnati, although he was not punished because the league said there was no video evidence. He was also charged with drunken driving in October, when he was pulled over at 2:45 a.m. after attending a birthday party for receiver Rod Gardner. Those charges were dismissed in January.

So far there's apparently no injury, no warrant, and not much in the way of news coverage.

 

[fatness]

Parts of the current Washington Post article, which will likely update as more information becomes available.

Miami-Dade County police are looking to speak with Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor as a "person of interest" in a case involving a stolen car and shots fired Wednesday night, a police spokeswoman said today.

Taylor, the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft, and a friend were at the scene of a crime and Taylor is one of several people police are seeking to contact regarding the incident, according to Cathy Webb, a public information officer for the Miami-Dade County Police Department.

Webb said police are still investigating the crime and have no information as to Taylor's role, if any, in the matter. It was unclear who the stolen car belonged to and why Taylor was there. Webb said shots were fired into the vehicle.........................

................................Taylor's father, Pedro, the chief of police in Florida City, Fla., declined to comment on Wednesday's incident when reached by telephone at his office. He instructed a reporter to call Taylor's mother, Donna Junor.

Junor, when contacted at her home, said she had no specifics about the incident but believed Taylor was not injured.

"They said he's okay, but I haven't spoken to him," Junor said. "I don't know where he is, but I've heard all kinds of things. I don't want to speculate, so there's nothing I can really say."

A woman at the same telephone number identifying herself as Taylor's great-grandmother said Taylor ate dinner at their home Wednesday night before going out.

She, too, said she has not heard from Taylor and had no other information.

 

[buster c]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

Oh, these are the "voluntary" workouts. You are closer to the situation. Is this one of those where only like 3 people per team have the stones not to "volunteer?"

I'm no closer to the situation than anyone here. just wanted to address your first comment, which was factually incorrect.

 

[P Boy]

You can take the boys out of Miami, but you can't take the Miami out of the boys...The team dorm must have bars on its windows down there...

 

[jurb26]

You can take the boys out of Miami, but you can't take the Miami out of the boys...

The team dorm must have bars on its windows down there...

Yes, but they are GOLD bars.

 

[Callas Disregard]

Doesn't the NFL have something in the rookie orientation about it not being a good idea to carry a handgun and play gangsta?

Yes, but coupled with the Mike Doss incident I must conclude that free safeties are excused from attending.

 

[coolnerd]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

Oh, these are the "voluntary" workouts. You are closer to the situation. Is this one of those where only like 3 people per team have the stones not to "volunteer?"

I'm no closer to the situation than anyone here. just wanted to address your first comment, which was factually incorrect.

While I don't want to get a fact incorrect, the real point was that Taylor should have had his rear end near Washington DC concentrating on getting better as football player whether the practice mandatory or "voluntary" or really voluntary. In this case, the exactness of practice did not take away from the where Sean Taylor should have been.

 

[RestoreTheROAR]

scUM always talks about how many ppl they put in the draft..newsflash: it might be good if your players can maintain a career in the NFL.

 

[buster c]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

Oh, these are the "voluntary" workouts. You are closer to the situation. Is this one of those where only like 3 people per team have the stones not to "volunteer?"

I'm no closer to the situation than anyone here. just wanted to address your first comment, which was factually incorrect.

While I don't want to get a fact incorrect, the real point was that Taylor should have had his rear end near Washington DC concentrating on getting better as football player whether the practice mandatory or "voluntary" or really voluntary. In this case, the exactness of practice did not take away from the where Sean Taylor should have been.

only problem with your logic is that trouble finds certain people, as evidenced by his arrest during the 2004 season for DUI. in DC, not MIA. so it doesn't really matter where he is when the sun is up. he's not in lock down at night in any scenario.

 

[coolnerd]

he's probably just trying to get out of mandatory mini-camp

talk to me in September.  if he's rooming with Rae Carruth, I'll be concerned then

Without knowing the details, there is a good chance that if Taylor were at mandatory camp, i.e. where he was supposed to be, he might not be in trouble.

the stuff going on now isn't mandatory. I believe those are 6/17-19

Oh, these are the "voluntary" workouts. You are closer to the situation. Is this one of those where only like 3 people per team have the stones not to "volunteer?"

I'm no closer to the situation than anyone here. just wanted to address your first comment, which was factually incorrect.

While I don't want to get a fact incorrect, the real point was that Taylor should have had his rear end near Washington DC concentrating on getting better as football player whether the practice mandatory or "voluntary" or really voluntary. In this case, the exactness of practice did not take away from the where Sean Taylor should have been.

only problem with your logic is that trouble finds certain people, as evidenced by his arrest during the 2004 season for DUI. in DC, not MIA. so it doesn't really matter where he is when the sun is up. he's not in lock down at night in any scenario.

Good Point. Really good point.

 

[psychobillies]

IF TRUE...I guess this throws a wrench into his contract negotiations. I gotta think he'll show up and keep his mouth shut about that ridiculous extension he was asking for. What a moron.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Fox sports radio reported an hour ago that someone stole his car and he went looking for them with a "weapon of assault".

 

[fatness]

Here's the current Fox News Story that mentions the radio information you just cited: Link

MIAMI (AP) - Miami-Dade County police were looking Friday for Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, who they describe as a "person of interest" in an assault case."We need to speak to him, we don't know if he's a victim, witness or suspect," said police spokesman Mary Walters.The assault happened Wednesday night and shots were fired, Walters said. No one was injured. Walters said she didn't have further details and police were still investigating.Citing sources within the Miami-Dade Police Department, Fox Sports Radio's Jorge Sedano reported that Taylor fired shots at the home of people he believed had stolen an all-terrain vehicle of his.Sedano also reported that Taylor will be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and will turn himself in to Miami authorities Saturday morning. Sedano made the report on Fox Sports Radio's "Fox GameTime Live" with Craig Shemon and James Washington..................................

 

[Beaumont]

Here's the current Fox News Story that mentions the radio information you just cited: Link

MIAMI (AP) - Miami-Dade County police were looking Friday for Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, who they describe as a "person of interest" in an assault case.

"We need to speak to him, we don't know if he's a victim, witness or suspect," said police spokesman Mary Walters.

The assault happened Wednesday night and shots were fired, Walters said. No one was injured. Walters said she didn't have further details and police were still investigating.

Citing sources within the Miami-Dade Police Department, Fox Sports Radio's Jorge Sedano reported that Taylor fired shots at the home of people he believed had stolen an all-terrain vehicle of his.

Sedano also reported that Taylor will be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and will turn himself in to Miami authorities Saturday morning. Sedano made the report on Fox Sports Radio's "Fox GameTime Live" with Craig Shemon and James Washington..................................

Very Mike Doss-ishAlso, this is much worse than the mere misdemeanor assault statute I posted earlier ...

This is felony stuff, punishable by more than one year in jail or prison ...

 

[Beaumont]

Comparable Nole criminal experience:MALONE, BYRNEA former Florida State football player, who had been charged with attempted murder, has been allowed to plead guilty to three lesser felony counts for a drive-by shooting in which no one was injured. Bryne Malone, 22, entered the pleas Tuesday to charges of shooting into an occupied building April 30. Circuit Judge Charles Francis sentenced him to 16 months in a work-release program with credit for about nine months already served at the Leon County Jail. He will be able to work outside during the day but must return to prison each night. Florida State coach Bobby Bowden kicked Malone off the team shortly after his arrest. Malone, a defensive tackle, and a friend, Julian Moore, 30, were charged with firing a rifle at the home of several Florida State students. Moore still faces charges in the case. Police said Moore had a running dispute with the students, one of whom he said ``disrespected'' him, according to court records. The judge also ordered Malone to pay $1,333 in court costs and restitution in an amount not yet determined. Malone also must serve three years of probation with a ban on consuming alcohol and possessing firearms.

 

[CalBear]

The next rumor is trade talks with the Baltimore Ravens.

 

[DonnyT33]

Doesn't someone have to be injured for there to have been an assault?

No. There are verbal assualts and I think depending on the state brandishing a gun by itself can be an assault ...Edited to add Im not a criminal law lawyer and I am sure the state statutes control ...

If I can recall from a law course back in College, I think assualt is basically a threat which appears imminent. Battery is typically when someone gets injured. A person can be charged with both or each one idividually.Yes, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Under the common law, yes. But most criminal statutes are codified (statutes) ...Florida's assault statute, in its entirety, provides as follows:

784.011. Assault

(1) An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.

(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

he is also on his way to being the best defensive player in the NFL. Too bad he's an ahole

 

[Prime]

he is also on his way to being the best defensive player in the NFL. Too bad he's an ahole

LOL S. Taylor?You're kidding right?

I can name 50 better defensive players off the top of my head who are far better than Taylor.

 

[RestoreTheROAR]

Atlanta Sports Radio was reporting that he will turn himself in today and will be charged with aggrevated assault +, for firing a gun at a house. Something about him believing that the people in the house were responsible for stealing his ATV.

 

[Christo]

Atlanta Sports Radio was reporting that he will turn himself in today and will be charged with aggrevated assault +, for firing a gun at a house. Something about him believing that the people in the house were responsible for stealing his ATV.

If true, that's not good. It most likely pushes it from a misdemeanor to a felony.

 

[jurb26]

he is also on his way to being the best defensive player in the NFL. Too bad he's an ahole

LOL S. Taylor?You're kidding right?

I can name 50 better defensive players off the top of my head who are far better than Taylor.

What that were rookies or 2nd year players? He didn't say he WAS the best, he said ON HIS WAY.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

This is insane. Taylor is throwing it all away - hard to imagine anyone can be that supid even at his age. It will be very interesting to see if a high powered legal team can get him out of this one.

 

[fatness]

Washington Times article Saturday morning

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor yesterday was being sought by the Miami-Dade County Police Department in connection with a shooting Wednesday in South Florida. Taylor, the club's talented but troubled 2004 first-round draft pick, was labeled a "person of interest," meaning police weren't sure whether he was a victim, suspect or witness in the shooting, which didn't injure anyone. "We understand he was there," detective Nelda Fonticella said. "We have been in touch with his family, friends and team, but we haven't been able to locate him."

The incident is the latest in a well-publicized string of dubious moves by Taylor, and it comes during an offseason in which he now is the only Redskin declining to work out with his teammates at Redskin Park. Coach Joe Gibbs, who champions the offseason workout program, hasn't been able to contact Taylor all offseason. Gibbs yesterday wasn't available for comment, and a team spokesman didn't return a phone call. Agent Drew Rosenhaus, who represents Taylor, also didn't return a call.

Fonticella said the shooting came during a dispute in a residential area in southern Dade County. Taylor played college football at the University of Miami and is working out this offseason in South Florida. There was no further information available about the nature of the incident or who else was involved. Police were looking for "a couple more" people in connection with the shooting, Fonticella said. None of the others are football players.

Fonticella noted police weren't close to issuing a warrant for Taylor's arrest and that there is "not a set deadline" for him to turn himself in. The search for Taylor wasn't supposed to be made public and must have "leaked out," she added.

Until more news comes out, the official police information is that he's not about to be arrested. The leaks supposedly from within the police department say he's going to turn himself in and be charged today for shooting into a house. Quite a wide disparity at this point.We now return you to your regularly-scheduled program.

 

[jurb26]

Washington Times article Saturday morning

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor yesterday was being sought by the Miami-Dade County Police Department in connection with a shooting Wednesday in South Florida. Taylor, the club's talented but troubled 2004 first-round draft pick, was labeled a "person of interest," meaning police weren't sure whether he was a victim, suspect or witness in the shooting, which didn't injure anyone.    "We understand he was there," detective Nelda Fonticella said. "We have been in touch with his family, friends and team, but we haven't been able to locate him."

The incident is the latest in a well-publicized string of dubious moves by Taylor, and it comes during an offseason in which he now is the only Redskin declining to work out with his teammates at Redskin Park. Coach Joe Gibbs, who champions the offseason workout program, hasn't been able to contact Taylor all offseason. Gibbs yesterday wasn't available for comment, and a team spokesman didn't return a phone call. Agent Drew Rosenhaus, who represents Taylor, also didn't return a call.

Fonticella said the shooting came during a dispute in a residential area in southern Dade County. Taylor played college football at the University of Miami and is working out this offseason in South Florida.    There was no further information available about the nature of the incident or who else was involved. Police were looking for "a couple more" people in connection with the shooting, Fonticella said. None of the others are football players.

    Fonticella noted police weren't close to issuing a warrant for Taylor's arrest and that there is "not a set deadline" for him to turn himself in. The search for Taylor wasn't supposed to be made public and must have "leaked out," she added.

Until more news comes out, the official police information is that he's not about to be arrested. The leaks supposedly from within the police department say he's going to turn himself in and be charged today for shooting into a house. Quite a wide disparity at this point.We now return you to your regularly-scheduled program.

Would't you think that if he had shot into a house, issuing a warrant for his arrest would be of the URGENT matter? I'm begining to believe that this is more fluff than anything else.