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Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
Yeah, good win for the Niners. Seahawks played them punch for punch though, so I can't be too disappointed.

 
Overall, I don't like losing and wish we could have won at their house.

Having said that, we didn't get blown out so I'm fine with it and made my peace. I wish we could have gotten out of it with fewer injuries however.

 
Overall, I don't like losing and wish we could have won at their house.

Having said that, we didn't get blown out so I'm fine with it and made my peace. I wish we could have gotten out of it with fewer injuries however.
:goodposting: The injuries are more concerning than losing the game.

 
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't rght. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
Yeah Im not too worried about Kaep in the long term...he hasn't progressed like Wilson has, but not many QBs do. He has barely a full season of starting under his belt, he will get better. Next season there will be no excuses if he doesn't progress. Hopefully Harbaugh will live up to his QB guru rep and work with Kaep on his weaknesses, reads, etc...and I.also hope they let him run a *bit* more...he always seems tentative to run and slides way to early. I remember Harbaugh telling Colin not to hit the weights too hard in the offseason because he could sacrafice some of his speed and elusiveness...maybe that's what has happened, because he's not the same runner he was last year - when he gets room to run he doesn't seem as quick and fleet footed as he was, and he doesn't have those signature long runs, so even though teams still have to account for him using his legs, the threat isn't the same, IMO. He also doesn't seem to feel pressure very well. I don't know how you coach him up on that, but his pocket awareness definitely needs to improve, and he needs to learn how to step up in the pocket - he never does that. He also needs to work in developing touch passes. I see too many times guys open that he could loft a nice touch pass to but he always wants to zip his throws.

 
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Overall, I don't like losing and wish we could have won at their house.

Having said that, we didn't get blown out so I'm fine with it and made my peace. I wish we could have gotten out of it with fewer injuries however.
:goodposting: The injuries are more concerning than losing the game.
What injuries? Wright and who else?
Unger
Oh yeah, that's right. Any word about it?

 
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
One thing that stuck out at me today in particular was the fact that Kaepernick had terrible touch on his check down passes. Those aren't big gainers, but someone like Wilson (or, dare I say, Alex Smith) does a great job of getting it to a RB and getting 3-4 yards on a first down passing play when nothing is open downfield. Kaepernick missed on several of those, making it 2nd & 10 instead of a more manageable 2 & 5-6. Kaepernick is an extremely accurate downfield thrower, but the boom/bust nature of Kaepernick's passing plays keeps them from getting in a consistent rhythm offensively.

 
Game plan to beating Seattle....begins with not playing them in Seattle
Seriously, if you look at just this year, they aren't the same on the road.

Wilson is a fantastic pocket passer, and he runs very well.

But he had 2 yards rushing today. When they nearly lost in STL, he might have had one scramble for a first down, but STL otherwise did a good job of bottling him up in the run game by employing a pass rush disciplined in contain.

That might be a key component of a blueprint.

 
Overall, I don't like losing and wish we could have won at their house.

Having said that, we didn't get blown out so I'm fine with it and made my peace. I wish we could have gotten out of it with fewer injuries however.
:goodposting: The injuries are more concerning than losing the game.
What injuries? Wright and who else?
Unger
Oh yeah, that's right. Any word about it?
Left Pec injury, not sure the extent. If it's not a tear, he'll not miss much time I wouldn't think.

 
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.

 
Overall, I don't like losing and wish we could have won at their house.

Having said that, we didn't get blown out so I'm fine with it and made my peace. I wish we could have gotten out of it with fewer injuries however.
:goodposting: The injuries are more concerning than losing the game.
What injuries? Wright and who else?
Unger
Oh yeah, that's right. Any word about it?
Left Pec injury, not sure the extent. If it's not a tear, he'll not miss much time I wouldn't think.
It's a strain but no word on the severity yet.

 
Seahawks came in and played a good physical game - while these teams matchup well, it doesn't look like there is a single team in the NFL capable of winning in Seattle, & it looks like all NFC hopefuls will have to travel to the PNW.

Signed,

Depressed but realistic 49er fan

 
Seahawks came in and played a good physical game - while these teams matchup well, it doesn't look like there is a single team in the NFL capable of winning in Seattle, & it looks like all NFC hopefuls will have to travel to the PNW.

Signed,

Depressed but realistic 49er fan
It's ok, the PAC12 did well this year.

 
I hear you. My hope was that once we had our offensive weapons back, Kap would blossom. Fact is even today Wilson looked better and has progressed further than Kap this year. I know Crabs aint back yet, but Kaps current play is a first round exit. Lets hope Harbaugh can help him progress this offseason.

 
I was trying to explain to my wife what was frustrating me about Kaepernick's play and just can't quite put my finger on it. As Tarketon recently alluded to, he just seems "robotic" and "uncomfortable" and that's a very accurate assessment. Both of those QB draw plays would have been TDs last year. Instead of stepping up and threatening to run, he just stands there hoping someone gets open or tries to run away when there's pressure. To me it feels like instead of taking it to the defense he's waiting and reacting to what the defense does.

He was actually playing a decent game IMO until that pick to crabtree and after that he just seemed to play it safe. I'll go back to a term that Harbaugh used when he talked about scouting... "athletic instincts". Last year seemed like Kaepernick had it, this year not so much.

 
Game plan to beating Seattle....begins with not playing them in Seattle
Seriously, if you look at just this year, they aren't the same on the road.
Seriously, what team is? Seahawks are 5-2 on the road this year, that's pretty good.
They're no Eagles on the road, but they're not bad....
Going into this game they were the #1 ranked road team.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/away-power-ranking-by-team

After their win against New Orleans, their homefield advantage went from #21 to #9.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/home-advantage-by-team

Of course, they are also the top ranked team at home too, for now:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/home-power-ranking-by-team

 
Game plan to beating Seattle....begins with not playing them in Seattle
Seriously, if you look at just this year, they aren't the same on the road.
Seriously, what team is? Seahawks are 5-2 on the road this year, that's pretty good.
Wasn't raining on your parade, just don't remember them looking so dramatically different between home and road in 2012, which is why i qualified it. Didn't they have a 3-4 game stretch last year where they set a league record for cumulative points that had stood for a half a century (that included a few road games, i think)? Maybe they have more injuries this year? When was the last time they lost at home?

One set of totals home, the other road, you get to guess which (It could be a relevant question if they make it to the super bowl)?

196 - 81

161 - 121

* 2013 SCHEDULE

AWAY

1 - W CAR (12-7)

4 - W HOU (23-20)

5 - L IND (34-28)

7 - W ARI (34-22)

8 - W STL (14-9)

10 - W ATL (33-10)

14 - L SF (19-17)

margin of victory in five wins, two games by more than a TD (23 & 12), other three were 3, 5 & 5.

they have been clutch, but easily could have lost to CAR, HOU and STL... if they lose one or two, could be 4-3 or even 3-4. They could easily have been 2-5 (do you remember how the CAR, HOU and STL games ended?). They are like three plays from being 2-5. Would you say they were a good road team if their record was 2-5 or 3-4?

HOME

2 - W SF (29-3)

3 - W JAX (45-17)

6 - W TEN (20-13)

9 - W TB (27-24)

11 - W MIN (41-20)

13 - W NO (34-7)

margin of victory in six wins, two games by TD or less (3 & 7), other four were 21, 26, 27 & 28.

 
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Great game by both teams, very evenly matched. Key for 49's is the continued improved play of Crabtree, the seahawks need Harvin to play, and can't afford any more injuries, I love to see these two teams meet in the playoffs.

 
Not Sleeping said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
Faithful here, and I'd say you're dead on. There's definitely reason to worry about his regression this year. I'm still hoping he proves us wrong, but yeah, he's just not looking the same as last year even in the games that they win easily. I could be ok with the bicep kissing, the petulant two word answers to the press, and wearing another team's hat in the offseason when he was lighting it up, but it grows a little tiresome when he's not. And this is coming from a guy who was telling people at the beginning of the season that there wasn't another QB in the league that I'd rather have than Kapper. So yeah, I've been disappointed with what I've seen this year, but as I said, still hopeful that he'll prove me wrong.
Despite my unfounded doubts last year, I have faith long-term. I see the postseason as win-win for us. If we drop out in wildcard or divisional round, we can hopefully sign Kaep, Aldon, and/or Crab to relatively cheap/not exorbitant extensions. They've all had their issues this year and I'm hoping it makes them cheaper to extend. Not a guarantee. If we get to the NFC Championship game, or particularly SB it will be much more expensive.

 
Not Sleeping said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
Faithful here, and I'd say you're dead on. There's definitely reason to worry about his regression this year. I'm still hoping he proves us wrong, but yeah, he's just not looking the same as last year even in the games that they win easily. I could be ok with the bicep kissing, the petulant two word answers to the press, and wearing another team's hat in the offseason when he was lighting it up, but it grows a little tiresome when he's not. And this is coming from a guy who was telling people at the beginning of the season that there wasn't another QB in the league that I'd rather have than Kapper. So yeah, I've been disappointed with what I've seen this year, but as I said, still hopeful that he'll prove me wrong.
Despite my unfounded doubts last year, I have faith long-term. I see the postseason as win-win for us. If we drop out in wildcard or divisional round, we can hopefully sign Kaep, Aldon, and/or Crab to relatively cheap/not exorbitant extensions. They've all had their issues this year and I'm hoping it makes them cheaper to extend. Not a guarantee. If we get to the NFC Championship game, or particularly SB it will be much more expensive.
Aldon's going to jail. The DUI is the least of his legal concerns.
 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
 
Comparing Kaepernick to Wilson just doesn't seem fair to Kaepernick. Wilson is a freak. Kapernick is probably going to be really good, he's just on a more normal development curve.

 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
Except when he plays Green Bay. :wall:

 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
:fishing:

 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
:fishing:
How is that fishing? I'm not a fan of either team, and I own both players in different leagues.
 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
:fishing:
How is that fishing? I'm not a fan of either team, and I own both players in different leagues.
You have to define your use of smart.

 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
:fishing:
How is that fishing? I'm not a fan of either team, and I own both players in different leagues.
Kaepernick is undeniably booksmart at least.

 
slackjawedyokel said:
drummer said:
Hooper31 said:
Solid game from 49er defense. They deserved to win this game.

Not quite sure what to say about Kaepernck. I wouldn't go so far as to say they won in spite of him, but there's something there that just isn't right. I don't think SF needs him to be a great passer to win it all, but they're going to need something more and I'm not sure he has it in him. Would like to hear the SF faithful sound off on this. Am I way off base here?
I'll give him a whole 'nother off-season with some roster improvements to start thinking his where he is at. Right now, the 49ers bigger problem is their depth at the run game if Gore can't hold up.
You got it. Kaep looks to have settled in this very mediocre groove this season and it will take this offseason for him to repair/correct the issues. He just isn't very "heady" when it comes to the game... not yet at least. He needs to really focus in the offseason and stop doing commercials, etc. I would certainly be concerned if Gore watches from the sideline for any substantial amount of time. Next season, let's hope Lattimore steps in to provide a boost and a breather in Gore's final year.
It is also possible that he just isn't very smart. R Wilson is very, very bright. Kaep might just not be in the same echelon.
:fishing:
How is that fishing? I'm not a fan of either team, and I own both players in different leagues.
Kaepernick is undeniably booksmart at least.
The 49er offense isn't a simple offense to run either. Alex Smith ran less of it, and he is really, really smart.

 
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You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.

 
You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.
So what you're saying is that aside from being inferior on short and intermediate passes, Kaepernick is just as good as Wilson?

 
Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP.
1. Not that many are calling Wilson the MVP. Most are saying he is in the discussion, but that's it.

2. Wilson and Kaepernick having similar games today doesn't mean a lot as far as MVP-relevancy goes, unless you think today alone should dictate the award. Take away today, and look at the rest of the season, and it is obvious that Wilson has had the far better season, thus him getting his name thrown into the MVP discussion.

 
You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.
So what you're saying is that aside from being inferior on short and intermediate passes, Kaepernick is just as good as Wilson?
You just love taking bait don't ya?

 
You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.
So what you're saying is that aside from being inferior on short and intermediate passes, Kaepernick is just as good as Wilson?
You just love taking bait don't ya?
I sort of operate under the assumption that grown ups aren't saying dumb stuff just to get a rise out of people. Perhaps I need to operate under different assumptions in these threads.
 
You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.
So what you're saying is that aside from being inferior on short and intermediate passes, Kaepernick is just as good as Wilson?
Wilson is probably more likeable, too. :)

 
You all are tripping.

Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP. The thing about Kaep is that he has no touch on short and intermediate passes so he needs a WR with great hands (obvious, I know). Crabtree will get better, and Kaep will magically get better, as well.

This was a fantastic win wherein the Niners D dominated the consensus #1 team, and the Niners' playoff chances are looking much improved. Oh yeah, and Harbaugh still gets to pound on his underdog drum throughout the post-season. Things are trending up.
So what you're saying is that aside from being inferior on short and intermediate passes, Kaepernick is just as good as Wilson?
You just love taking bait don't ya?
I sort of operate under the assumption that grown ups aren't saying dumb stuff just to get a rise out of people. Perhaps I need to operate under different assumptions in these threads.
The three main targets Kaap has hit all season: Davis, Boldin, and FB Bruce Miller.

Fullback Bruce Miller, who isn't exactly running deep routes.

He just got Crabtree back, they are still trying to work Manningham in, and the old short crossing routes Delanie Walker used to run has been replaced by Vance McDonald, who is really struggling in the offense, because he kinda sucks at this moment.

If you wan't real discussion, then don't take bait, and at least have a clue what you're talking about when it comes to Kaep.

 
Kaep and Wilson had extremely similar games today, and people are calling Wilson the league MVP.
1. Not that many are calling Wilson the MVP. Most are saying he is in the discussion, but that's it.

2. Wilson and Kaepernick having similar games today doesn't mean a lot as far as MVP-relevancy goes, unless you think today alone should dictate the award. Take away today, and look at the rest of the season, and it is obvious that Wilson has had the far better season, thus him getting his name thrown into the MVP discussion.
I agree that Kaep should not be the league MVP. And I think I agree that you should not take away much from either QB's performance in these Niner - Hawks games.Mainly I was trying to rib the guy in the Wilson MVP thread claiming that Wilson dominated the Niners D.

 
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