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Seattle @ Washington ... Pregame chatter (1 Viewer)

Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
 
Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
What's the early line?
 
Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
What's the early line?
It opened at EV, and line is either 2.5 to 3 for Seattle depending on where you look
 
Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/01/05/home-underdogs-in-the-nfl-playoffs/Home team dogs in the playoffs, they are 17-9 overal in those games and 18-7-1 against the spread as of 2008. I know Seattle probably was in the category when they play the Saints at home most likely.
 
Should be a great game against two teams that are very similar. There is good reason it's the closest handicapped game of the weekend (opened up as pickem and now up to -3 for the Hawks).

And the "grass" stat thing is silly. Seattle played most of those grass games early on in the season and have since improved immensely, for numerous reasons above and beyond the playing surface. Seattle is a physical team on both sides of the ball, not a finesse team dependent on quickness, well geared to play late season bad weather football. The grass stat is almost entirely, if not entirely, useless.

The biggest advantage in this match-up is Seattle's passing offense vs. Washington's passing defense. Carroll has had great success in exploiting advantages like this in the past when it wasn't an apparent strength of the team (i.e..Matt Hasselbeck passing vs Saints in the playoffs 2 years ago). Wilson should have a very good day and while RG3 should also inflict some damage, he simply has a much tougher task in the passing game. If Washington wins, it will be because they were successful running and dink dunking short passes underneath. Ultimately, I think Seattle wins this because they are a more complete and better team.

Seattle 27 Washington 20.

 
Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/01/05/home-underdogs-in-the-nfl-playoffs/Home team dogs in the playoffs, they are 17-9 overal in those games and 18-7-1 against the spread as of 2008. I know Seattle probably was in the category when they play the Saints at home most likely.
I did see that, it also states: In recent years, it hasn’t been quite as strong (3-5 straight up, 4-4 ATS since 2004) - I'm having a hard time finding historical betting lines. Even last year's lines. Also not sure how much of an impact the 2002 playoff structure factors into this in weighing more recent matchups more heavily or not.
 
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Seattle's advanced metrics are pretty impressive, though they are probably skewed a little high by the differentials in the blowout games since they under-performed their expected wins by a game or two. All 5 of Seattle's losses came on the road and they'll be making the tough west coast to east coast trip for this one, so HFA is a significant factor. Seattle hasn't given up more than 28 points all year, if RG3 is a little healthier again this week I think the Redskins can score 20-24 points. On the road this year the Hawks have scored 16, 13, 16, 6, 24, 21, 23, 50. I think Washington can keep them closer to their second half trend of low-20's or a little better, so I expect a close game either way. With home field working in their favor, I think Washington will pull out a 21-17 squeaker.
HFA in the playoffs is very strong, except in one scenario. Where the lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game. I'm sure someone could extrapolate on this better that has access to better data but the basic principle is if a lower seeded team is a favorite going into the game that means that HFA has already been factored into the spread and the lower seeded team is such a large favorite that it overcomes the HFA points. Do not confuse "every favorite winning their games in the playoffs" with "road-favorites having a very high win percentage".
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/01/05/home-underdogs-in-the-nfl-playoffs/Home team dogs in the playoffs, they are 17-9 overal in those games and 18-7-1 against the spread as of 2008. I know Seattle probably was in the category when they play the Saints at home most likely.
I did see that, it also states: In recent years, it hasn’t been quite as strong (3-5 straight up, 4-4 ATS since 2004) - I'm having a hard time finding historical betting lines. Even last year's lines.
Wildcard Since 2007:2008- Jax(-3) @ Pit (Jax 31-29)2009- Phi(-3.5) @ Min (Phi 26-14)Balt(-3.5) @ Mia (Balt 27-9)Ind(-2) @ SD (SD 23-17)2010-GB(-3) @ AZ (AZ 51-45)2011-NO(-10) @ Sea (Sea 41-36)Balt(-3) @ KC (Balt 30-7)2012-Pitt(-7.5) @ Den (Den 29-23)Division Since 2007:2012-NO (-3.5) @ SF (SF 36-32)Championship Since 2007:2009-Phil (-3.5) @ AZ (AZ 32-25)2011-GB (-3.5) @ CHI (GB 21-14)Home Dog is 6-5 since 2007 season
 
Article from John Keim on the Redskins/Cowboys game, and the Redskins in general. This is the part talking about their run game, which keeps confusing opponents. Kyle Shanahan's play calling has done a good job confusing opponents this year.

3. Here’s why the Redskins should be considered dangerous in the postseason: They’ve won in very different ways the past three weeks. Against Cleveland they didn’t have Robert Griffin III, yet still scored 38 points by scrapping the zone read game and using play-action and bootlegs. And another rookie quarterback. Against Philadelphia, Griffin’s legs weren’t a big issue at all yet they scored 27 points (albeit against a team playing poorly) because they threw the ball well enough and ran it effectively. And they won vs. Dallas because the passing game wasn’t working, but the Cowboys couldn’t stop the run.

4. So, in other words, they haven’t had a big game from Griffin in the past three games yet have averaged 31 points a game. They are a run-based offense that can hurt you with various looks in the run game. It’s not as simple as saying, ‘Stop Alfred Morris and you stop their run game.’ Not even close. Besides, you have to figure out exactly how they’re going to use Morris. It’s not just their offense that isn’t one-dimensional, it’s the run game. Griffin’s ability to run is factored in, but also how they use Morris.

5. For example, Sunday night, the Redskins altered how they used the zone read game. In the first meeting they usually just went basic zone read and Griffin’s fakes fooled the edge rushers – or at least that’s what they hoped they would do. It didn’t always work. But Sunday, the Redskins used their tight ends to block from the backside and if nothing else obscure the end, often linebacker DeMarcus Ware. On Morris’ 17-yard touchdown, Niles Paul blocked in that way and took care of Anthony Spencer. On Griffin’s touchdown run, Logan Paulsen came down the line and slowed Ware. The Redskins threw more at Ware and Spencer, cutting them, using shifts. It’s harder on the road for these ‘backers to get a jump off the ball and the Redskins disrupted them even more with the game plan.

“It gives them one more thing to look at,” tight end Logan Paulsen said. “You’re not used to seeing that, especially with the zone read. You obscure the action for the guy so he can’t see if Robert has it or the back has it so he’s making an educated guess.”

“To throw a wrinkle at them may not seem like a lot,” said guard Kory Lichtensteiger (who left in a walking boot over his left foot), “but it’s something they practiced all week and to get a different look messes with them.”
 
Regarding your "mistakes on you" comment, there is no need to be insulting, or hostile.
He's that way all the time. Other Seahawks fans aren't; they're pretty good people to talk with.
Thank you for acknowledging this. I feel like I need to apologize for that guy on a weekly basis. Face-palms-a-plenty.
Why do other fans feel the need for stuff like this? 49er fans try to do the same with me in 49er threads. Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson and the Hawks and can handle himself without any help. At least I know there is a guy who roots for a division rival who is just as hardcore as I am. Those who feel the need to 'apologize' for that should get over themselves.
 
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Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson
If by "good stuff" you mean "highly selective stuff designed to make Wilson look good while leaving out stuff that makes Griffin or Luck look good" I'm in total agreement with you.
 
Regarding your "mistakes on you" comment, there is no need to be insulting, or hostile.
He's that way all the time. Other Seahawks fans aren't; they're pretty good people to talk with.
Thank you for acknowledging this. I feel like I need to apologize for that guy on a weekly basis. Face-palms-a-plenty.
Why do other fans feel the need for stuff like this? 49er fans try to do the same with me in 49er threads. Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson and the Hawks and can handle himself without any help. At least I know there is a guy who roots for a division rival who is just as hardcore as I am. Those who feel the need to 'apologize' for that should get over themselves.
Interesting, the parallel you've drawn between stupid/rude/over-the-top and "hardcore". As if those qualities put him above the other fans that apologize for him.
 
Regarding your "mistakes on you" comment, there is no need to be insulting, or hostile.
He's that way all the time. Other Seahawks fans aren't; they're pretty good people to talk with.
Thank you for acknowledging this. I feel like I need to apologize for that guy on a weekly basis. Face-palms-a-plenty.
Why do other fans feel the need for stuff like this? 49er fans try to do the same with me in 49er threads. Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson and the Hawks and can handle himself without any help. At least I know there is a guy who roots for a division rival who is just as hardcore as I am. Those who feel the need to 'apologize' for that should get over themselves.
Interesting, the parallel you've drawn between stupid/rude/over-the-top and "hardcore". As if those qualities put him above the other fans that apologize for him.
Yeah, we're establishing a baseline for NFL fan behavior in one small corner of the Internet and the NFL as whole here.ETA: this isn't the comment section of Pro Football Talk for example.
 
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Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson
If by "good stuff" you mean "highly selective stuff designed to make Wilson look good while leaving out stuff that makes Griffin or Luck look good" I'm in total agreement with you.
True, and it's not like I haven't chimed in when he posts stuff like that either. But again, Hawk fans who apologize for that should get over themselves. It's the Internet.
 
Found this article and posted about it in the Kaepernick thread:

My link

Some interesting stuff here, and maybe this paragraph is useful for the conversation:

The other rebuttal is simply to look and see what other teams are doing around the league. The clear trend is that more and more teams are adopting these concepts. Just as Roman and Harbaugh have embraced the trend to take better advantage of Colin Kaepernick’s skills, Seattle Seahawk head coach Pete Carroll has tapped into the best read option concepts as a spark for his offense led by his own dynamic rookie quarterback, Russell Wilson. Following a 19-13 loss to the St. Louis Rams, Carroll watched film of Griffin’s Redskins attack and saw something he didn't necessarily expect: an NFL team successfully using the very concepts he’d had to deal with when he was head coach at Southern Cal and faced Chip Kelly’s Oregon team
 
Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson
If by "good stuff" you mean "highly selective stuff designed to make Wilson look good while leaving out stuff that makes Griffin or Luck look good" I'm in total agreement with you.
True, and it's not like I haven't chimed in when he posts stuff like that either. But again, Hawk fans who apologize for that should get over themselves. It's the Internet.
VERY :goodposting:Anyways.....lets focus on the matchup. I would much prefer that over having to hear about the Seahawk fans who constantly worry about me.What isn't being talked about much yet anyways is I believe this is the first time 2 rookie QBs will face in the playoffs....can anyone confirm that? Also....is there a good Redskins radio show to listen too online?
 
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Found this article and posted about it in the Kaepernick thread:

My link

Some interesting stuff here, and maybe this paragraph is useful for the conversation:

The other rebuttal is simply to look and see what other teams are doing around the league. The clear trend is that more and more teams are adopting these concepts. Just as Roman and Harbaugh have embraced the trend to take better advantage of Colin Kaepernick’s skills, Seattle Seahawk head coach Pete Carroll has tapped into the best read option concepts as a spark for his offense led by his own dynamic rookie quarterback, Russell Wilson. Following a 19-13 loss to the St. Louis Rams, Carroll watched film of Griffin’s Redskins attack and saw something he didn't necessarily expect: an NFL team successfully using the very concepts he’d had to deal with when he was head coach at Southern Cal and faced Chip Kelly’s Oregon team
Interestingly, in the second half of the season Seattle has incorporated parts of the Redskins read option offense and it has opened up the Seahawks attack: Wilson is getting some great runs and it has really thrown opposing defenses off. Now the Redskins are going to get to show them how to really run it.

 
No dog in this race, but I like the Skins 24 - 13, RG3 runs and passes for more yards then the 2nd best rookie QB on the field. No offense intended to Wilson, he seems like a good kid and looks to have a great future, but I think RG3 has had more pressure to excel immediately and has done so.

 
One thing that might help a lot of us is for Seattle folks and Washington folks to post some links to who they think the best beat reporters are covering the Seahawks and Redskins. When I'm reading about other teams besides the Skins I have no idea which local reporters are good and which ones are bunk.

Good Skins beat reporters:

John Keim

column

twitter

Rich Campbell

column

twitter

Rich Tandler

column

twitter
For the Seahawks, I'm a huge fan of FieldGulls (yes, the name is extremely unfortunate). They tend to do very solid breakdown analysis.For example, here's a breakdown of the Seahawks use of the Pistol formation.

 
Yeah, we're establishing a baseline for NFL fan behavior in one small corner of the Internet and the NFL as whole here.
that's really kick ### and all, but most of us don't really care. can we stick to the Washington/Seattle matchup?
You sure can. Start by not posting kick ###.
Log off, mom.
You're getting kinda fat. No cookies for you today. ;)
Awwww man.....
 
I believe this is the first time 2 rookie QBs will face in the playoffs....can anyone confirm that?

Also....is there a good Redskins radio show to listen too online?
I was wondering about the 2 rookie QB thing myself and don't know the answer.For Redskin radio there's ESPN980 and 106.7 the Fan. The quality of show on each one varies. If you can catch Al Galdi's show Saturday morning on ESPN980 it's the best sports show of the week locally. And some mornings ESPN980 pre-empts Mike & Mike (thank god) for Skins discussion. They may do that this week.

 
For the Seahawks, I'm a huge fan of FieldGulls (yes, the name is extremely unfortunate). They tend to do very solid breakdown analysis.

For example, here's a breakdown of the Seahawks use of the Pistol formation.
That's a good article, thank you. :thumbup: That pass play to Rice is similar to a play the Redskins ran successfully several times with Fred Davis early this year before he was hurt.

Skins fans: should we show them the stuff about Fred Davis being his own defense lawyer?

 
If you want to see what hawk fans think as a consensus go: http://seahawks.net/viewforum.php?f=2

Problem with the majority of those folk are 1)They cherish 2005 even though its 2012, 2)The majority of them were hating on Wilson & Pete Carroll early in the season...now they are in love, 3)Win and everything is great, lose a game and the world is over. Maybe its the case for fans in general but the people who post there overreact.

If guys like fatness go to post there they will be super nice to you and chat you up....but troll and you will be toast. There are a few guys who really know their football there.

 
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The main Redskin message board is Extremeskins, which is very active but I stopped reading several years ago. Back then it seemed like mostly blind homers who attacked anyone with any kind of criticism and that's not discussion I enjoy. Perhaps it's better today, I don't know. Frankly I prefer the Offseason and Regular Season Redskin threads here at FBG for my reading and discussion. We post a lot of links to articles and the discussion level is pretty interesting year after year. I'm more interested in reading and discussing than in trolling or being trolled.

 
'matttyl said:
'mad sweeney said:
I didn't say they aren't and I don't see what point you might be making if none of the grass games Lynch has played on match the grass for Sunday. All I said was that I was more concerned with the grass slowing down the D than the O.
You can be concerned with whatever you want. I just showed that clearly Lynch has had far more success per game on a synthetic field than when on grass.The same thing can be said of last year for Lynch -Games on grass (4 games):58 for 172 yards and 2 TDs (2.97 YPC, and zero 100 yard games)Games on synthetic (11 games):227 for 1,032 and 10 TDs (4.55 YPC, and 6 100 yard games)This is every game now for the last two year's of Lynch's career. You have to admit this is a VERY VALID claim.
It is misleading as you are presenting it. The sample size of grass games is small, and he faced a disproportionate number of good run defenses on grass (SF, CHI, MIA, CAR in 2012; SF, PIT, CHI in 2011). I would expect Lynch to have less success in a small sample of games on the road against good run defenses than in a larger sample of mostly home games against a mix of good, average, and bad run defenses.Now, this week, Lynch will be on the road against a good run defense. It is certainly possible he won't have a good game. But I don't think this sample on grass is as telling as you are making it out to be.
 
'fatness said:
The main Redskin message board is Extremeskins, which is very active but I stopped reading several years ago. Back then it seemed like mostly blind homers who attacked anyone with any kind of criticism and that's not discussion I enjoy. Perhaps it's better today, I don't know. Frankly I prefer the Offseason and Regular Season Redskin threads here at FBG for my reading and discussion. We post a lot of links to articles and the discussion level is pretty interesting year after year. I'm more interested in reading and discussing than in trolling or being trolled.
I got banned at the beginning of the year for saying Bobby Wagner will have a better rookie year than Lofa Tatupu rookie year. So ya.... I stopped posting on the main Seahawks forum. Thanks for the link though...I'll check it out.
 
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'fatness said:
The main Redskin message board is Extremeskins, which is very active but I stopped reading several years ago. Back then it seemed like mostly blind homers who attacked anyone with any kind of criticism and that's not discussion I enjoy. Perhaps it's better today, I don't know. Frankly I prefer the Offseason and Regular Season Redskin threads here at FBG for my reading and discussion. We post a lot of links to articles and the discussion level is pretty interesting year after year. I'm more interested in reading and discussing than in trolling or being trolled.
I got banned at the beginning of the year for saying Bobby Wagner will have a better rookie year than Lofa Tatupu rookie year. So ya.... I stopped posting on the main Seahawks forum. Thanks for the link though...I'll check it out.
Based on your posts here we're supposed to believe that? Seriously?
 
'Hang 10 said:
'fatness said:
'Sebowski said:
Good luck next week. Played well over this past two months and earned the home playoff game. :thumbup: I just want to apologize ahead of time for Scientist. Please don't think we're all like that way out here in the Pacific Northwest.
:goodposting:
:goodposting: Seahawk fans are good people.
Pretty sure they lead the board in trolls.
Packer fans definitely lead in the troll department, at least when it comes to Seattle threads. They still can't get over their loss in SEA.
 
'drummer said:
'Hooper31 said:
'fatness said:
'MikeApf said:
Regarding your "mistakes on you" comment, there is no need to be insulting, or hostile.
He's that way all the time. Other Seahawks fans aren't; they're pretty good people to talk with.
Thank you for acknowledging this. I feel like I need to apologize for that guy on a weekly basis. Face-palms-a-plenty.
Why do other fans feel the need for stuff like this? 49er fans try to do the same with me in 49er threads. Dude is a big boy who posts some good stuff about Wilson and the Hawks and can handle himself without any help. At least I know there is a guy who roots for a division rival who is just as hardcore as I am. Those who feel the need to 'apologize' for that should get over themselves.
:goodposting: I get the hate (especially from Seattle fans that some how think he represents them because he's vocal)..... however, IMO, this guy has the green light to roll in his slop all he wants as a guy who was begging for Seattle to take Wilson predraft. Enjoy the ride dude... it's probably a once in a lifetime experience.
 
'ImTheScientist said:
If you want to see what hawk fans think as a consensus go: http://seahawks.net/viewforum.php?f=2

Problem with the majority of those folk are 1)They cherish 2005 even though its 2012, 2)The majority of them were hating on Wilson & Pete Carroll early in the season...now they are in love, 3)Win and everything is great, lose a game and the world is over. Maybe its the case for fans in general but the people who post there overreact.

If guys like fatness go to post there they will be super nice to you and chat you up....but troll and you will be toast. There are a few guys who really know their football there.
That is a fact. I followed the Seattle QB competition all preseason over there and the vibe was VERY pro-Flynn.
 
FWIW i was having a dream about this game late 4th quarter

my son woke me up before i could see the final but it was Seahawks 27-Redskins 21, around 2:20 to go

not sure on field position/timeouts, but Hawks were lining up for a 3rd and 11 play so i like to think Skins get the ball back and RGIII hits Garcon for a TD

Skins 28, Hawks 27

 
I will be rooting for the Skins, but think they are in tough.

RG3 looked very gimpy and lets face it, he isn't going against the Cowboys depleted defense this week. He is going to get hit in the mouth. Pressure the run and make RG3 beat you. Lynch will be able to move the ball on the ground and Wilson will do just enough to win.

I see a real low chance, low score type of game.

14-9 Hawks.

 
I will be rooting for the Skins, but think they are in tough.RG3 looked very gimpy and lets face it, he isn't going against the Cowboys depleted defense this week. He is going to get hit in the mouth. Pressure the run and make RG3 beat you. Lynch will be able to move the ball on the ground and Wilson will do just enough to win.I see a real low chance, low score type of game.14-9 Hawks.
I think people are misunderstanding griffins knee situation. Four weeks to completely heal they said. Sunday will be four weeks. But the big issue is how much the brace inhibits mobility. You try running around with on of those things on and see if it doesn't slow you down a step. I think he'll make big strides this week and willprobably be able to go without the brace Sunday. I love how many people are picking Seattle.
 
FWIW i was having a dream about this game late 4th quartermy son woke me up before i could see the final but it was Seahawks 27-Redskins 21, around 2:20 to gonot sure on field position/timeouts, but Hawks were lining up for a 3rd and 11 play so i like to think Skins get the ball back and RGIII hits Garcon for a TDSkins 28, Hawks 27
I saw the rest of the dream. Jon Ryan punted and pinned the Redskins inside the 10. Griffin moved the Redskins to midfield but ws picked off by Richard Sherman at the Hawk 33. Wilson and Lynch ran out the clock. 27-21 Hawks.
 

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