Sell Marion Barber high? (1 Viewer)

[PR Sparty]

There's alot in interest in MBIII due to his great first two weeks. I'd imagine he's a third or forth for alot of owners and I'm wondering if now would be good time to sell.

Is he really consistent enough to start over top tier back like FWP, McGahee, Rudi, Maroney??

He's played two pretty bad teams thus far (Giants and Miami), still splitting with JJ, and still can't run up the middle all that well.

If a good offer comes, would now be the time to jump?

Upcoming schedule...@Chi, Stl, @Buf, NE, Minn, @Phi, @NYG, Wash, NYJ, GB, @Det, Phi, @Car, @Was

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I think I would hold. Barber will perform much better against those teams, imo, than will Julius. Barber will get the goal line scores and is a good receiver. Much too early to sell on Barber unless a great offer comes across.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

Dude had 16 TD last year and has 3 already this year, He's a TD machine, what don't you like about him ? I won't comment on what people are getting for him because I don't own him but I would be one of those owners trying to trade for him instead of the opposite of what you propose.

Patytons Ghost

 

[PR Sparty]

Here's my concern re: consistency

Week by week in 2006

2.6

12.5

13.3

10.8

11.7

4.6

17.6

7.3

13.3

15.5

20.6

19.6

-0.1

21.6

0.3

9.8

2.7

Graph that out and you'll see some serious ups and downs. I'm not saying he's a scrub, I just wonder if an offer included a consistent 25 carry per game guy, do you take it?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Here's my concern re: consistencyWeek by week in 20062.612.513.310.811.74.617.67.313.315.520.619.6-0.121.60.39.82.7Graph that out and you'll see some serious ups and downs. I'm not saying he's a scrub, I just wonder if an offer included a consistent 25 carry per game guy, do you take it?

if he gave you the exact same season-ending stats as last year, would you be happy? If the answer is yes, then I would not sweat the "how".

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I don't understand why people are so concerned about standard deviation w/ Marion Barber. Think of it this way: if you could take your year-end point total for your RB2 and get the mean score each week (i.e. no standard deviation), would you? I don't think I would care either way. The swings are just as likely to help you as harm you.

Moreover, I view Barber's < 5 point games as potential upside in the future.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

Here's my concern re: consistencyWeek by week in 20062.612.513.310.811.74.617.67.313.315.520.619.6-0.121.60.39.82.7Graph that out and you'll see some serious ups and downs. I'm not saying he's a scrub, I just wonder if an offer included a consistent 25 carry per game guy, do you take it?

if he gave you the exact same season-ending stats as last year, would you be happy? If the answer is yes, then I would not sweat the "how".

The Dude scored +10 points in 10 of 14 games assuming you play 14 in your FF. (actually 11 of 14 if you include 9.8) Thats pretty good as a #2 #3 Flex, BTW he is averaging 12.5 attempts per game 12.5 X 14 games is 175 rushing attempts which accumulates to 40 more attempts so far from last year. Just saying

 

[PR Sparty]

Thanks for the input. I've got an owner breathing down my neck offering a underperforming RB and TE (LM and VD) to get his hands on MBIII. Reading the above has all but convinced me he's worth hanging onto.

 

[Kiddnets]

I love MB but have been getting some big time offers for him - as my team is 0-2 and not looking like a powerhouse - I may not tempt fate and cash him in!

 

[dickey moe]

I'm thinking of trying to offer him to the guy in our league who is QB-rich (Palmer and Brady) and RB-poor. At RB I have Gore and LJ, but my QBs are Phillips and Garrard -- ouch.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I think I would hold. Barber will perform much better against those teams, imo, than will Julius. Barber will get the goal line scores and is a good receiver. Much too early to sell on Barber unless a great offer comes across.

So much for being drafted too high - right now his selection in Round 4 (give or take) looks like a steal.Top 10 RB this year....?

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

I'm thinking of trying to offer him to the guy in our league who is QB-rich (Palmer and Brady) and RB-poor. At RB I have Gore and LJ, but my QBs are Phillips and Garrard -- ouch.

who?

 

[einstein2u]

traded him.

mb3/tj

for

gore/branch

done....feeling nervous about it.

 

[Judge Smails]

He got traded in our league yesterday. MBIII and Welker for Reggie Wayne and Tatum Bell.

 

[jesseasi]

I am in a dynasty league where we keep 17 out of 22 players each year.

I have been offered Rudi Johnson for M. Barber.

On the surface it seems like a no brainer to me and would probably help my team win a championship this year.

I have not yet pulled the trigger because I just love what I see when I watch Barber play.

#1. He is only like 24.6 years old.

#2. He runs hard and always seems to break the 1st tackle.

#3. He is durable.

#4. He does not fumble

#5. He catches the ball and is a legit threat to run or catch any time he is in there.

#6. He is getting all the important carries right now. Goal line, third down, fourth quarter. Just a matter of time before he gets everything.

#7. J. Jones is an unrestricted free agent. I have heard he has been crying to the media - latest is that he has not performed as well as he likes because he is not getting the consistant carries.....well I got news for you Julius - Barber with the same or less carries has been 2-3x as affective.

#8. As far as dynasty goes - seems like Barber has huge potential in this offense.

Am I crazy? Should I jump all over Rudi? What scares me about Rudi is that he is 28 and has had a ton of carries. In the preseason it seemed like he had lost a step. I am not sure Cincy is committed to running the ball either. They will get the ball on the goal line and throw it 3 times.

Well - what does the rest of the shark pool think? Keep Barber in dynasty or trade him for someone like Rudi?

Edit - Almost forgot #9 - Barber has a nose for the endzone.

Last year Parcells made a joke referencing how slow Barber was saying "our guys have to block everyone twice when Barber carries the ball" - so far what I have seen this year - Barber has that explosion a good RB needs to make the 1st guy miss or break a tackle and explode toward the end zone.

 

[ltaylor]

I am in a dynasty league where we keep 17 out of 22 players each year.I have been offered Rudi Johnson for M. Barber. On the surface it seems like a no brainer to me and would probably help my team win a championship this year. I have not yet pulled the trigger because I just love what I see when I watch Barber play.#1. He is only like 24.6 years old.#2. He runs hard and always seems to break the 1st tackle.#3. He is durable.#4. He does not fumble#5. He catches the ball and is a legit threat to run or catch any time he is in there.#6. He is getting all the important carries right now. Goal line, third down, fourth quarter. Just a matter of time before he gets everything.#7. J. Jones is an unrestricted free agent. I have heard he has been crying to the media - latest is that he has not performed as well as he likes because he is not getting the consistant carries.....well I got news for you Julius - Barber with the same or less carries has bee 2-3x as affective. #8. As far as dynasty goes - seems like Barber has huge potential in this offense.Am I crazy? Should I jump all over Rudi? What scares me about Rudi is that he is 28 and has had a ton of carries. In the preseason it seemed like he had lost a step. I am not sure Cincy is committed to running the ball either. They will get the ball on the goal line and throw it 3 times. Well - what does the rest of the shark pool think? Keep Barber in dynasty or trade him for someone like Rudi?Edit - Almost forgot #9 - Barber has a nose for the endzone. Last year Parcells made a joke referencing how slow Barber was saying "our guys have to block everyone twice when Barber carries the ball" - so far what I have seen this year - Barber has that explosion a good RB needs to make the 1st guy miss or break a tackle and explode toward the end zone.

For all the reasons stated above I traded Maroney for Barber III today in my limited keeper league. We can keep two players 2 rounds earlier than they were drafted the year before. In this deal, both Maroney and Barber can be kept next year for a 3rd rounder. I thought about all the issues that you mentioned above. Maroney has S. Morris signed to a 4 year deal; It looks like he will be filling the Dilon role for the next several years. Barber next year is likely to be a true Bell COW as Jones is sent packing somewhere else. Not to mention, I think MBIII will outperform Maroney in PPR this season as well.

 

[Kiddnets]

I would never trade Barber in a dynasty or keeper league - only reason I am considering dealing him is he is a FA in our league after this season and I can land a great keeper for the next few years for him - if you can keep Barber hold him - he will be top12 this year sharing - imagine what he can do next year!

 

[Ned]

He got traded in our league yesterday. MBIII and Welker for Reggie Wayne and Tatum Bell.

oof!

 

[Routilla]

MBIII is the #1 RB in my league scoring right now. Who could you get to replace his scoring?

 

[Big Score]

I would never trade Barber in a dynasty or keeper league

 

[Restricted]

Hold. Especially in a dynasty as J. Jones is gone after this year (supposedly). Winds are swirling heavily about Barber being better than JJ and if current production continues you will be sad that you sold as low as you did.

 

[sholditch]

Just traded SA+MB3 for LT+Benson in a TD-heavy league. Just giving that as a value barometer. Pair him with another stud and the sky's the limit.

 

[BeachBums]

He went yesterday in one of my leagues straight up for Reggie Bush. The guy who got Reggie got screwed.

 

[Jimboozie]

I would never trade Barber in a dynasty or keeper league

Hate to burst your bubble but you shouldn't be drooling over his future value. There is a very good chance that Dallas drafts Darren McFadden next year. They have two 1st rounders, one of which is Cleveland's.

 

[BigJim®]

For all the reasons stated above I traded Maroney for Barber III today in my limited keeper league.

Interesting trade, since these guys shared carries for the Gophers.

 

[dickey moe]

I'm thinking of trying to offer him to the guy in our league who is QB-rich (Palmer and Brady) and RB-poor. At RB I have Gore and LJ, but my QBs are Phillips and Garrard -- ouch.

who?

sorry, brain fart. I meant Phillip Rivers.

 

[ltaylor]

I would never trade Barber in a dynasty or keeper league

Hate to burst your bubble but you shouldn't be drooling over his future value. There is a very good chance that Dallas drafts Darren McFadden next year. They have two 1st rounders, one of which is Cleveland's.

I keep hearing people say this. I don't know where it comes from or more importantly how it makes any logical sense. It would seem to me infusing youth on an aging 0-line or finding a future replacement for an aging WR corps (Glenn and TO are in their 30's) would be in order. IF they let go of Julius Jones they will certainly spend a draft pick on a RB. Just probably not a 1st rounder.

 

[mr blond]

Traded Barber and L. Evans for Harrison and Brandon Jackson.

 

[kensat30]

The reason I am concerned, and the reason you should be concerned, is because Barber dropped the occassional goose egg. For me, it was a big fat goose egg in a playoff week last year that caused me to get knocked out. Sure, he helped get me there, but he let me down in the end. You just cannot be taking goose eggs from your starting RBs in any week let alone a playoff week. The guy is great when he is hot, but terrible when he's not.

The guy is the #3 RB in fantasy football right now, but I wouldn't want him as anything but a RB#3 on my roster. I'm seriously thinking of benching him for Santana Moss this weekend because I think there is goose egg potential there this weekend. You just cannot rely on Barber unless you absolutely KNOW that he will score a TD, he just doesn't get enough touches and he's not Brian Westbrook.

 

[einstein2u]

The reason I am concerned, and the reason you should be concerned, is because Barber dropped the occassional goose egg. For me, it was a big fat goose egg in a playoff week last year that caused me to get knocked out. Sure, he helped get me there, but he let me down in the end. You just cannot be taking goose eggs from your starting RBs in any week let alone a playoff week. The guy is great when he is hot, but terrible when he's not.The guy is the #3 RB in fantasy football right now, but I wouldn't want him as anything but a RB#3 on my roster. I'm seriously thinking of benching him for Santana Moss this weekend because I think there is goose egg potential there this weekend. You just cannot rely on Barber unless you absolutely KNOW that he will score a TD, he just doesn't get enough touches and he's not Brian Westbrook.

i agree 100%...and i think if ask to carried the load he will ultimately get injured.and i am a Mb3 owner

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I am in a 10 team 10 player keeper. I was offered Rivers, Jesse Chatman and a 2008 1st rounder for Marion Barber and Jason Campbell. I though about it for 3 days and eventually turned it down. I feel it is a hold pattern as if Barber gets the full time gig his value is sky high.

For those that think Dallas wants McFadden, sure they do, a lot of teams do. Dallas has more glaring needs (WR included) and will use those 2 first rounders there.

 

[Ned]

Traded Barber and L. Evans for Harrison and Brandon Jackson.

double oof!

 

[yellowdog]

Traded Barber and L. Evans for Harrison and Brandon Jackson.

You got hosed.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

The reason I am concerned, and the reason you should be concerned, is because Barber dropped the occassional goose egg. For me, it was a big fat goose egg in a playoff week last year that caused me to get knocked out. Sure, he helped get me there, but he let me down in the end. You just cannot be taking goose eggs from your starting RBs in any week let alone a playoff week. The guy is great when he is hot, but terrible when he's not.The guy is the #3 RB in fantasy football right now, but I wouldn't want him as anything but a RB#3 on my roster. I'm seriously thinking of benching him for Santana Moss this weekend because I think there is goose egg potential there this weekend. You just cannot rely on Barber unless you absolutely KNOW that he will score a TD, he just doesn't get enough touches and he's not Brian Westbrook.

He is rather inconsistent as he does most of his damage when he scores TDs. I'm not sure if trying to predict his performance ahead of time is possible or not. I don't like his matchup vs. Chicago. Does anyone see him having a good week this week?

 

[Winning IS Everything]

The reason I am concerned, and the reason you should be concerned, is because Barber dropped the occassional goose egg. For me, it was a big fat goose egg in a playoff week last year that caused me to get knocked out. Sure, he helped get me there, but he let me down in the end. You just cannot be taking goose eggs from your starting RBs in any week let alone a playoff week. The guy is great when he is hot, but terrible when he's not.

To comment on this.... Our commish has LT in our keeper league. His team was loaded last year. LT's bomb in the league playoffs cost him the title. He did not go out and trade or drop LT. I know that is apples to oranges, but the point is ANY RB can drop the occasional egg, especially in the playoffs.

 

[Pimpin Ain't Easy]

I would never trade Barber in a dynasty or keeper league

Hate to burst your bubble but you shouldn't be drooling over his future value. There is a very good chance that Dallas drafts Darren McFadden next year. They have two 1st rounders, one of which is Cleveland's.

I keep hearing people say this. I don't know where it comes from or more importantly how it makes any logical sense. It would seem to me infusing youth on an aging 0-line or finding a future replacement for an aging WR corps (Glenn and TO are in their 30's) would be in order. IF they let go of Julius Jones they will certainly spend a draft pick on a RB. Just probably not a 1st rounder.

Not to mention they like Tyson Thompson as well.All of the hype about Mcfadden to the Boys, I just dont understand. I think Mcfadden is the real deal, but the Cowboys will have bigger needs IMO, and hopefully Jerry Jones can resist the urge to grab one of his boys from Arkansas.

 

[epiG3]

Here's my concern re: consistencyWeek by week in 20062.612.513.310.811.74.617.67.313.315.520.619.6-0.121.60.39.82.7Graph that out and you'll see some serious ups and downs. I'm not saying he's a scrub, I just wonder if an offer included a consistent 25 carry per game guy, do you take it?

A very fit Leonard Davis should help these numbers.. their Oline this year gets alot more push, the holes are their. Barber hits them well. That's my gamble anyway.

 

[mr blond]

Traded Barber and L. Evans for Harrison and Brandon Jackson.

You got hosed.

I don't think so. Barber was my RB 2/3. I get a big upgrade at WR and add a RB4 to pair behind LT, Jordan, L. White and K. Jones.