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[PIK95]

With the dispersal draft approaching the bottom of the barrel, our thoughts should turn to when to open the rest of the league to transactions. It really all depends on what CBS allows us to do but we should have some advance discussion around the topic.Last year, we ran week one waivers before going back to first come, first served pickups. The waivers system was much unloved, but I wanted to throw it out as an option if for no other reason than to avoid any injuries in the mad dash.The other thing to consider is whether to give the three new clubs a chance to use their injury slot and add a 37th player before general transactions begin.

I think we should run the waivers soon after the draft ends just like last year and then we can open up the usual free for all as ususal. No opinion on the injury round. Doesn't matter much imo in Feb....WAIT, we did week one waivers after the season started last year? Really?

The whinedown starts on page one of this thread (March 2010) and runs for a couple of pages.

I am leaning towards having our first waiver after the first week of the season. I want to see those last couple of votes though before deciding every day waivers or every Sunday or Monday.

Sound familar?

No, lol. I have a five year old and almost two year old and A.D.D. I'm open to whatever.

 

[harryhood]

32.03 - Simon Castro - SP

33.01 - Corey Luebeke - SP

 

[boubucarow]

Harryhood - Hanley Ramirez, Ryan Howard, Justin Verlander, Carlos Santana, Elvis Andrus, Mark Reynolds, Brett Anderson, Micheal Young, Brad Lidge, Carlos Lee, Ted Lilly, Edwin Jackson, Lonnie Chisenhall, Juan Pierre, Tsuyoshi Nishioka, Carlos Carrasco, David Ortiz, Cody Ross, Frank Fransisco, Juan Rivera, Jim Thome, Matthew Purke, Kyle Gibson, Juan Miranda, Dan Johnson, Carl Pavano, Octavio Dotel, Juan Uribe, Chris Young, Jake Arrieta, Mark Repcynski, Simon Castro, Corey LuebekeBoubucarOw - Ryan Braun, Adrian Gonzalez, Buster Posey, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dan Uggla, Brett Gardner, Shane Victorino, Freddie Freeman, Geovany Soto, Manny Machado, James Shields, Jake Peavy, Wil Myers, Carlos Zambrano, Jameson Taillon, Matt Moore, Ervin Santana, Josh Willingham, Jason Bartlett, James McDonald, Chipper Jones, Gerrit Cole, Aaron Hicks, Cliff Pennington, Yadier Molina, Dallas Braden, Justin Masterson, Kosuke ####udome, A.J. Burnett, Travis Hafner, Erik Bedard, Macier Izturis, Nick FranklinTremendousUpside- Robinson Cano, Felix Hernandez, CC Sabathia, Domonic Brown, Adrian Beltre, Madison Bumgarner, Jonathan Papelbon, Brandon Morrow, Carlos Quentin, Gaby Sanchez, Leo Nunez, Vlad Guerrero, Peter Bourjos, Jake McGee, Cameron Maybin, Daniel Bard, Brandon Allen, Brett Myers, Jed Lowrie, Brent Morel, Zach Britton, Manny Banuelos, Brad Hawpe, Yu Darvish, Jarrod Parker, Jarrod Saltalamachhia, Miguel Tejada, Jonny Venters, Yonder Alonso, Jack Cust, Gerrardo Parra, Jenrry Mejia

33.02 Nick Franklin

 

[RnR]

29.03 Yonder Alonso

SOMFD. Geez.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

33.03 Jason Kipnis

34.01 Josh Thole

 

[boubucarow]

Harryhood - Hanley Ramirez, Ryan Howard, Justin Verlander, Carlos Santana, Elvis Andrus, Mark Reynolds, Brett Anderson, Micheal Young, Brad Lidge, Carlos Lee, Ted Lilly, Edwin Jackson, Lonnie Chisenhall, Juan Pierre, Tsuyoshi Nishioka, Carlos Carrasco, David Ortiz, Cody Ross, Frank Fransisco, Juan Rivera, Jim Thome, Matthew Purke, Kyle Gibson, Juan Miranda, Dan Johnson, Carl Pavano, Octavio Dotel, Juan Uribe, Chris Young, Jake Arrieta, Mark Repcynski, Simon Castro, Corey LuebekeBoubucarOw - Ryan Braun, Adrian Gonzalez, Buster Posey, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dan Uggla, Brett Gardner, Shane Victorino, Freddie Freeman, Geovany Soto, Manny Machado, James Shields, Jake Peavy, Wil Myers, Carlos Zambrano, Jameson Taillon, Matt Moore, Ervin Santana, Josh Willingham, Jason Bartlett, James McDonald, Chipper Jones, Gerrit Cole, Aaron Hicks, Cliff Pennington, Yadier Molina, Dallas Braden, Justin Masterson, Kosuke ####udome, A.J. Burnett, Travis Hafner, Erik Bedard, Macier Izturis, Nick Franklin, John LambTremendousUpside- Robinson Cano, Felix Hernandez, CC Sabathia, Domonic Brown, Adrian Beltre, Madison Bumgarner, Jonathan Papelbon, Brandon Morrow, Carlos Quentin, Gaby Sanchez, Leo Nunez, Vlad Guerrero, Peter Bourjos, Jake McGee, Cameron Maybin, Daniel Bard, Brandon Allen, Brett Myers, Jed Lowrie, Brent Morel, Zach Britton, Manny Banuelos, Brad Hawpe, Yu Darvish, Jarrod Parker, Jarrod Saltalamachhia, Miguel Tejada, Jonny Venters, Yonder Alonso, Jack Cust, Gerrardo Parra, Jenrry Mejia, Jason Kipnis, Josh Thole

34.02 John Lamb

 

[Northern Voice]

So is trading open right now?

 

[harryhood]

34.03 - Matt Capps - RP

35.01 - David Murphy - OF

 

[boubucarow]

35.02 Wilin Rosario

 

[Eephus]

So is trading open right now?

Not yet. Let's finish the dispersal draft, and decide how and when to open up transactions. We're way ahead of last year.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

35.03 Lyle Overbay

36.01 Fausto Carmona

 

[Tremendous Upside]

And I'm spent

 

[boubucarow]

36.02 Tyler Matzek

 

[boubucarow]

Whenever trading opens, I am willing to talk about anyone. At this point, I assume that I am trying to create a contending window beginning two or three years down the road. So consider that...

Buster Posey, Giants

Yadier Molina, Cardinals

Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox

Dan Uggla, Braves

Chipper Jones, Braves

Jason Bartlett, Padres

Cliff Pennington, A's

Freddie Freeman, Braves

Macier Izturis, Angels

Ryan Braun, Brewers

Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox

Brett Gardner, Yankees

Shane Victorino, Phillies

Kosuke ####udome, Cubs

Josh Willingham, A's

Travis Hafner, Indians

Geovany Soto, Cubs

Manny Machado, Orioles

Wil Myers, Royals

Jameson Taillon, Pirates

Matt Moore, Rays

Gerrit Cole, UCLA

Aaron Hicks, Twins

Nick Franklin, Mariners

John Lamb, Royals

Wilin Rosario, Rockies

Tyler Matzek, Rockies

James Shields, Rays

Jake Peavy, White Sox

Carlos Zambrano, Cubs

Ervin Santana, Angels

James McDonald, Pirates

Dallas Braden, A's

Justin Masterson, Indians

A.J. Burnett, Yankees

Erik Bedard, Mariners

 

[PIK95]

Whenever trading opens, I am willing to talk about anyone. At this point, I assume that I am trying to create a contending window beginning two or three years down the road. So consider that...Buster Posey, GiantsAdrian Gonzalez, Red SoxFreddie Freeman, BravesRyan Braun, BrewersJacoby Ellsbury, Red SoxBrett Gardner, YankeesShane Victorino, PhilliesTravis Hafner, IndiansGeovany Soto, CubsJames Shields, RaysJake Peavy, White SoxCarlos Zambrano, CubsErvin Santana, AngelsA.J. Burnett, Yankees

These are the guys I have some to alot of interest in. Look at my team and let me know who you like on all levels. I'll bb in an hour or two.

 

[harryhood]

36.03 - Tim Stauffer - SP

 

[Eephus]

36.03 - Tim Stauffer - SP

Mr. IrrelevantI'll input rosters tonight and we can decide on when to open up transactions.boubucarow: If you're still tracking all the dispersal picks like you were before, I'd be much obliged if you could post the latest picks.

 

[PIK95]

36.03 - Tim Stauffer - SP

Mr. IrrelevantI'll input rosters tonight and we can decide on when to open up transactions.boubucarow: If you're still tracking all the dispersal picks like you were before, I'd be much obliged if you could post the latest picks.

Thanks for doing that Ee. Again, you da man.

 

[boubucarow]

Harryhood - Hanley Ramirez, Ryan Howard, Justin Verlander, Carlos Santana, Elvis Andrus, Mark Reynolds, Brett Anderson, Micheal Young, Brad Lidge, Carlos Lee, Ted Lilly, Edwin Jackson, Lonnie Chisenhall, Juan Pierre, Tsuyoshi Nishioka, Carlos Carrasco, David Ortiz, Cody Ross, Frank Fransisco, Juan Rivera, Jim Thome, Matthew Purke, Kyle Gibson, Juan Miranda, Dan Johnson, Carl Pavano, Octavio Dotel, Juan Uribe, Chris Young, Jake Arrieta, Mark Repcynski, Simon Castro, Corey Luebeke, Matt Capps, David Murphy, Tim StaufferBoubucarOw - Ryan Braun, Adrian Gonzalez, Buster Posey, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dan Uggla, Brett Gardner, Shane Victorino, Freddie Freeman, Geovany Soto, Manny Machado, James Shields, Jake Peavy, Wil Myers, Carlos Zambrano, Jameson Taillon, Matt Moore, Ervin Santana, Josh Willingham, Jason Bartlett, James McDonald, Chipper Jones, Gerrit Cole, Aaron Hicks, Cliff Pennington, Yadier Molina, Dallas Braden, Justin Masterson, Kosuke ####udome, A.J. Burnett, Travis Hafner, Erik Bedard, Macier Izturis, Nick Franklin, John Lamb, Wilin Rosario, Tyler MatzekTremendousUpside- Robinson Cano, Felix Hernandez, CC Sabathia, Domonic Brown, Adrian Beltre, Madison Bumgarner, Jonathan Papelbon, Brandon Morrow, Carlos Quentin, Gaby Sanchez, Leo Nunez, Vlad Guerrero, Peter Bourjos, Jake McGee, Cameron Maybin, Daniel Bard, Brandon Allen, Brett Myers, Jed Lowrie, Brent Morel, Zach Britton, Manny Banuelos, Brad Hawpe, Yu Darvish, Jarrod Parker, Jarrod Saltalamachhia, Miguel Tejada, Jonny Venters, Yonder Alonso, Jack Cust, Gerrardo Parra, Jenrry Mejia, Jason Kipnis, Josh Thole, Lyle Overbay, Fausto Carmona

Pik, I will get back to you in the morning some time.

 

[Eephus]

Check your rosters.

Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

 

[PIK95]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

 

[Eephus]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

Waivers was kind of a clusterfk last year and got voted down after one week. Except for that week, it's always been a FC/FS league so we should be consistentI think a big part of the problem last year was that we had a late start and were catching up to a bunch of spring training injury and playing time developments. This got a bunch of people chasing after the same players. Since we're opening free agency six weeks earlier this year, this shouldn't be a problem.

 

[PIK95]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

Waivers was kind of a clusterfk last year and got voted down after one week. Except for that week, it's always been a FC/FS league so we should be consistentI think a big part of the problem last year was that we had a late start and were catching up to a bunch of spring training injury and playing time developments. This got a bunch of people chasing after the same players. Since we're opening free agency six weeks earlier this year, this shouldn't be a problem.

You don't think that the one shot waivers after the dispersal draft is a good way to go? And then open FCFS? I'm after a couple of FA's for sure right now and don't want to have to sit at the computer waiting for it to open.

 

[Eephus]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

Waivers was kind of a clusterfk last year and got voted down after one week. Except for that week, it's always been a FC/FS league so we should be consistentI think a big part of the problem last year was that we had a late start and were catching up to a bunch of spring training injury and playing time developments. This got a bunch of people chasing after the same players. Since we're opening free agency six weeks earlier this year, this shouldn't be a problem.

You don't think that the one shot waivers after the dispersal draft is a good way to go? And then open FCFS? I'm after a couple of FA's for sure right now and don't want to have to sit at the computer waiting for it to open.

IIRC, Finless and RnR were the loudest voices against waivers. The one time we used waivers was pretty universally hated. I was in favor of them last year but the way CBS ran them was kind of screwy, so I had no problems going back to FC/FS.The dispersal draft owners did a pretty good job of scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don't see an obvious #1 left there. If we open free agency early enough, we can avoid a queue for the spring training phenoms. I personally think waivers is an unnecessary complication at this point but I'm open if anyone makes a good case for them.

 

[RnR]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

Waivers was kind of a clusterfk last year and got voted down after one week. Except for that week, it's always been a FC/FS league so we should be consistentI think a big part of the problem last year was that we had a late start and were catching up to a bunch of spring training injury and playing time developments. This got a bunch of people chasing after the same players. Since we're opening free agency six weeks earlier this year, this shouldn't be a problem.

You don't think that the one shot waivers after the dispersal draft is a good way to go? And then open FCFS? I'm after a couple of FA's for sure right now and don't want to have to sit at the computer waiting for it to open.

IIRC, Finless and RnR were the loudest voices against waivers. The one time we used waivers was pretty universally hated. I was in favor of them last year but the way CBS ran them was kind of screwy, so I had no problems going back to FC/FS.The dispersal draft owners did a pretty good job of scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don't see an obvious #1 left there. If we open free agency early enough, we can avoid a queue for the spring training phenoms. I personally think waivers is an unnecessary complication at this point but I'm open if anyone makes a good case for them.

I'm dead-set against waiver on the day-to-day workings of this league, but I have no problem if you want to run one set of them prior to spring training to start things off. My main concern last season was not being able to add a player or two within the week if needed.

 

[PIK95]

Check your rosters.Transactions are still locked. We'll open up first come, first served free agency sometime next week.

Are we gonna run a round of waivers first like last year? Thoughts? Anyone?

Waivers was kind of a clusterfk last year and got voted down after one week. Except for that week, it's always been a FC/FS league so we should be consistentI think a big part of the problem last year was that we had a late start and were catching up to a bunch of spring training injury and playing time developments. This got a bunch of people chasing after the same players. Since we're opening free agency six weeks earlier this year, this shouldn't be a problem.

You don't think that the one shot waivers after the dispersal draft is a good way to go? And then open FCFS? I'm after a couple of FA's for sure right now and don't want to have to sit at the computer waiting for it to open.

IIRC, Finless and RnR were the loudest voices against waivers. The one time we used waivers was pretty universally hated. I was in favor of them last year but the way CBS ran them was kind of screwy, so I had no problems going back to FC/FS.The dispersal draft owners did a pretty good job of scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don't see an obvious #1 left there. If we open free agency early enough, we can avoid a queue for the spring training phenoms. I personally think waivers is an unnecessary complication at this point but I'm open if anyone makes a good case for them.

I only meant a one shot once a year after dispersal draft waiver run. Nothing else. And it would be asap. Say one week after dispersal draft ends on years we actually have one to ensure people have a chance to get their picks in.

 

[PIK95]

 

[Spartans Rule]

I'd just go straight to FCFS and do it soon. As long as we do it before spring training, there isn't much left to pick over.

 

[PIK95]

I kinda want to do the same thing every year. What if next dispersal draft some nice player goes undrafted. That could be a headache. I wish more people would weigh in on this.

 

[Hoos First]

I say 1 round of waivers

 

[harryhood]

I'd just go straight to FCFS and do it soon. As long as we do it before spring training, there isn't much left to pick over.

This is good with me.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I kinda want to do the same thing every year. What if next dispersal draft some nice player goes undrafted. That could be a headache. I wish more people would weigh in on this.

Hopefully these dispersal drafts aren't needed every year. I'm sure somewhere down the road we'll lose people, but we should have a more stable group of owners now.

 

[Berserker]

I'm dead-set against waiver on the day-to-day workings of this league, but I have no problem if you want to run one set of them prior to spring training to start things off. My main concern last season was not being able to add a player or two within the week if needed.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Once a year, pre-spring training waivers would be OK. Also fine if we just skip to FCFS.

 

[PIK95]

I kinda want to do the same thing every year. What if next dispersal draft some nice player goes undrafted. That could be a headache. I wish more people would weigh in on this.

Hopefully these dispersal drafts aren't needed every year. I'm sure somewhere down the road we'll lose people, but we should have a more stable group of owners now.

I agree that it probably wont happen often but im afraid of setting a president (lol) and down the road having a problem when there IS a vg player or prospect still out there after a dispersal draft is all. We could even do a waiver like three days after dispersel ends if u guys are in a rush. We really should have a one rounder after dispersal imo but whatever the majority wants.

 

[boubucarow]

I kinda want to do the same thing every year. What if next dispersal draft some nice player goes undrafted. That could be a headache. I wish more people would weigh in on this.

Hopefully these dispersal drafts aren't needed every year. I'm sure somewhere down the road we'll lose people, but we should have a more stable group of owners now.

I agree that it probably wont happen often but im afraid of setting a president (lol) and down the road having a problem when there IS a vg player or prospect still out there after a dispersal draft is all. We could even do a waiver like three days after dispersel ends if u guys are in a rush. We really should have a one rounder after dispersal imo but whatever the majority wants.

I would agree on having a one round free agent draft on the opposite of the standings before we get to FCFS every year.

 

[Eephus]

I kinda want to do the same thing every year. What if next dispersal draft some nice player goes undrafted. That could be a headache. I wish more people would weigh in on this.

Hopefully these dispersal drafts aren't needed every year. I'm sure somewhere down the road we'll lose people, but we should have a more stable group of owners now.

I agree that it probably wont happen often but im afraid of setting a president (lol) and down the road having a problem when there IS a vg player or prospect still out there after a dispersal draft is all. We could even do a waiver like three days after dispersel ends if u guys are in a rush. We really should have a one rounder after dispersal imo but whatever the majority wants.

I would agree on having a one round free agent draft on the opposite of the standings before we get to FCFS every year.

I'm OK w/ this. Doing a reverse draft by last year's standings seems fairer than the mysterious and arbitrary waiver process (where I'm somehow at #1 priority BTW).

 

[harryhood]

Im ok with anything. Let's just get to the trading!

 

[Spartans Rule]

Im ok with anything. Let's just get to the trading!

Is trading open yet? Me and boubucarow have already worked out a deal.

 

[boubucarow]

Im ok with anything. Let's just get to the trading!

Is trading open yet? Me and boubucarow have already worked out a deal.

 

[PIK95]

Im ok with anything. Let's just get to the trading!

Is trading open yet? Me and boubucarow have already worked out a deal.

I still want one of AGonz, Posey, and Braun. Ill trade Ackley and Smoak n mofos...

 

[Northern Voice]

I want to trade, who's on the block?

 

[PIK95]

I want to trade, who's on the block?

Pretty much all my bench prospects and V Mart can be had.

 

[boubucarow]

I want to trade, who's on the block?

Nearly anybody. I will improve your team now if you improve my team's future.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Definitely on the market for some prospects

Have some nice pieces, especially on the pitching side IMO

 

[greedygoat]

I say 1 round of waivers

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[PIK95]

Im around all day. Backs out so im stuck on the couch. Watching Bolton now and Inter later. Send offers.

 

[harryhood]

Needs: Power(OF or 2B)

Can give: MI, SP, RP

 

[Eephus]

I say 1 round of waivers

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The problem with this is CBS doesn't seem to have a way to do this. If we choose waivers, we get full waivers; if someone makes 36 transactions, the process will run through all rounds.If we want to limit the pre-FCFS moves to one round, we need to do it with an offline mini-draft. I'm OK w/ this, although it seems like a PitA considering some teams will probably pass. Let's get this started and finished ASAP because the longer we wait, the greater the risk of some player emerging due to an early camp injury. All players dropped during the mini-draft can't be repicked until normal transactions begin. My order of preference is still FCFS, mini-draft, waivers, but I can live with either of the first two.

 

[PIK95]

I say 1 round of waivers

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The problem with this is CBS doesn't seem to have a way to do this. If we choose waivers, we get full waivers; if someone makes 36 transactions, the process will run through all rounds.If we want to limit the pre-FCFS moves to one round, we need to do it with an offline mini-draft. I'm OK w/ this, although it seems like a PitA considering some teams will probably pass. Let's get this started and finished ASAP because the longer we wait, the greater the risk of some player emerging due to an early camp injury. All players dropped during the mini-draft can't be repicked until normal transactions begin. My order of preference is still FCFS, mini-draft, waivers, but I can live with either of the first two.

One round mini draft right now right here it is. What's the order Ee? PM the guy behind you people. If you don't want a move put pass. Trading is open now also. Good Ee?I'm gonna send out some offers now. Here are Last year standings. I'll reverse them and then the three expansion teams reverse of dispersal order.. Hoos picks first, right?1 High N Tight! 56.0 62.0 118.0 0.0 0.0 2 Berserker 46.0 57.0 103.0 4.0 15.0 3 No Dynasty for Old Men 51.5 46.0 97.5 2.0 20.5 4 The Clifton Comets 42.5 38.5 81.0 1.5 37.0 5 Pink Taco Posse 34.0 46.5 80.5 3.5 37.5 6 Spartans Rule 39.0 32.0 71.0 -0.5 47.0 7 RnR 32.0 34.5 66.5 -0.5 51.5 8 Greedygoat 29.0 34.0 63.0 4.0 55.0 9 NV 33.5 25.0 58.5 -2.0 59.5 12 Hoos First 21.0 23.0 44.0 -6.0 74.0

 

[PIK95]

1 Hoos

2 NV

3 Greedy Goat

4 R&R

5 Spartans

6 Pink Taco

7 Clifton

8 Eephus

9 Berserker

10 PIK

11 T.U.

12 Boob

13 Harry

No clock but lets keep it moving.