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kupcho1 said:
Is it just me or have the number of service dogs exploded over the last few years?  TBH the only service dogs when I was young were guide dogs from the blind 

with sites like this:

https://www.officialservicedogregistry.com/register-your-dog/?gclid=CNjOh8TI6dQCFUSHswodQsMCDQ

me thinks there's a fair bit of chicanery going on.  "Honor system" :rolleyes:
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service dogs that actually perform a need are ok.  it's the emotional support dogs needing zero training that are the issue.

For $100 bucks or so anyone can go online and get their dog registered...ridiculous.

 
Just got off a flight from LA to Boston two hours ago where there was a service dog. Only because I saw him by the gate at LAX and then again at Logan. Otherwise, had no idea he was even on the plane.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
service dogs that actually perform a need are ok.  it's the emotional support dogs needing zero training that are the issue.

For $100 bucks or so anyone can go online and get their dog registered...ridiculous.
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It's a great thing as long as the animal is well behaved. If it's not it will be obvious it's not a service dog.

If people don't like it just because they don't like dogs in general then they can just go to hell. 

If they are allergic? Tough #### get over it, get medication from your doctor or move to your own private dog free island.

 
RokNRole said:
It's a great thing as long as the animal is well behaved. If it's not it will be obvious it's not a service dog.

If people don't like it just because they don't like dogs in general then they can just go to hell. 

If they are allergic? Tough #### get over it, get medication from your doctor or move to your own private dog free island.
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Do you realize anybody can pay $100 or so online and get their untrained dog labeled an "emotional" Support dog?

Actual service dogs get intensive training. 

People have abused the system so they can bring their untrained mutts everywhere they go.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Do you realize anybody can pay $100 or so online and get their untrained dog labeled an "emotional" Support dog?

Actual service dogs get intensive training. 

People have abused the system so they can bring their untrained mutts everywhere they go.
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I love dogs, but this has become ridiculous and so abused. 

 
RokNRole said:
It's a great thing as long as the animal is well behaved. If it's not it will be obvious it's not a service dog.

If people don't like it just because they don't like dogs in general then they can just go to hell. 

If they are allergic? Tough #### get over it, get medication from your doctor or move to your own private dog free island.
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Why can't the people who need service dogs get medication?  Why does someones fragile emotions and need for a dog infringe on someone else's medical issues?

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
I can't believe that there are people that are against there being MORE dogs in public.
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Yeah that's exactly what this thread is about.  Your reading comprehension is to be commended.  Well done. 

 
RokNRole said:
It's a great thing as long as the animal is well behaved. If it's not it will be obvious it's not a service dog.

If people don't like it just because they don't like dogs in general then they can just go to hell. 

If they are allergic? Tough #### get over it, get medication from your doctor or move to your own private dog free island.
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Flew last week and JetBlue announced the 1st 10 rows couldn't have any peanut product because someone was allergic. Never experienced this before

 
It's illegal in our state for a dog to be brought into a food service establishment. The law allows for exceptions such as police dogs and service dogs. if someone claims their dog is a service dog, the establishment is supposed to ask "what specific task is the dog trained to do?" Emotional support is a :bs:  answer. What the state is looking for is that the dog is trained. In other words it's not going to randomly pee in the food service establishment. 

 
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kupcho1 said:
Is it just me or have the number of service dogs exploded over the last few years?  TBH the only service dogs when I was young were guide dogs from the blind 

with sites like this:

https://www.officialservicedogregistry.com/register-your-dog/?gclid=CNjOh8TI6dQCFUSHswodQsMCDQ

me thinks there's a fair bit of chicanery going on.  "Honor system" :rolleyes:
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This is a golden ticket for dog owners who don't own their own home

Living With Your Emotional Support Dog

The Fair Housing Amendments Act (FHAA) gives individuals the right to live with their emotional support dog regardless of any building or residences with a no-pet policy. Building managers or landlords may not refuse your emotional support dog with the proper documentation.
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List of Disabilities

An emotional support dog can assist with various kinds of mental and emotional conditions.

Here is a list of some mental and emotional conditions individuals may have that may be helped by having an emotional support dog:

Anxiety

Depression

Bipolar disorder

Mood disorder

Fear/phobias

Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

Suicidal Thoughts/Tendencies

Adjustment Disorders

Generalized anxiety disorder

Social anxiety disorder

Panic disorder

Post-traumatic stress disorder

Separation anxiety

Dissociative Disorders

Factitious Disorders

Eating Disorders

Impulse-Control Disorders

Mental Disorders Due to a General Medical Condition

Neurocognitive Disorders

Mood Disorders

Neurodevelopmental Disorders

Personality Disorders

Psychotic Disorders

Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders

Sleep Disorders

Somatoform Disorders

Stress

Substance Related Disorders
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Not wild about what appear to be perfectly healthy individuals (the guy was wearing an American Gladiators t-shirt and I think he may actually have been one) who may be scamming not only travel with their dogs but getting to board first on the plane.  Overhead bins are at a premium.  

And it is entirely possible that the scammers ruin it for the people that might actually need it.  During the flight they announced someone on board had peanut allergies.  If the plane turns into a flying kennel, how long before someone with a dog allergy sues, wins millions, and forces all dogs off the plane?

also, why don't you care?   Are you one of the scammers?

 
Dickie Dunn said:
Just got off a flight from LA to Boston two hours ago where there was a service dog. Only because I saw him by the gate at LAX and then again at Logan. Otherwise, had no idea he was even on the plane.
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I would rather be on a flight full of service dogs than the idiots I flew with last week.

 
I'd like to live in a world like Bojack Horseman, where animals are people too.  I bet kupcho1 would be ####### pissed.

 
kupcho1 said:
Not wild about what appear to be perfectly healthy individuals (the guy was wearing an American Gladiators t-shirt and I think he may actually have been one) who may be scamming not only travel with their dogs but getting to board first on the plane.  Overhead bins are at a premium.  

And it is entirely possible that the scammers ruin it for the people that might actually need it.  During the flight they announced someone on board had peanut allergies.  If the plane turns into a flying kennel, how long before someone with a dog allergy sues, wins millions, and forces all dogs off the plane?

also, why don't you care?   Are you one of the scammers?
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Bigger things to get worked up over. 

Simmer down, nah.

 
Yeah, emotional support dogs are ridiculous. 

My mom is afraid to fly but is going on a trip this summer. She has two little Maltese that she treats like children. Rather than board them, she is taking them on the trip. Pretty sure she's going to use one of those bull#### websites to register them as emotional support dogs ( ya know...for her "anxiety") so she take take them in the cabin.

I like dogs just fine, but her dogs are yippy, super high maintenance and have the most annoying barks ever. No way to know how they'll react on an aircraft but I'm guessing it won't be pretty. I feel really bad for the poor souls that get stuck on that flight.

 
HellToupee said:
Flew last week and JetBlue announced the 1st 10 rows couldn't have any peanut product because someone was allergic. Never experienced this before
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That's because of the British Airways family in 2013 or 2014 where they announced that the little girl had an allergy and someone a few rows around them ate nuts and the little girl lost consciousness.

 IIRC it was disproved later but airlines are super sensitive now if someone notifies them of a nut allergy.

 
In the Seattle airport on Thursday, some woman was walking her emotional service ####zu through the concourse and the little ##### was yapping the whole friggin way. I'm sure her fellow passengers enjoyed their flight.

 
Fantasy_Freak said:
Why can't the people who need service dogs get medication?  Why does someones fragile emotions and need for a dog infringe on someone else's medical issues?
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I got a kiddo that's fighting cancer.  Due to the radiation of her skull she's got a range of vision about 80 degrees, under 135 degrees is considered legally blind, around 180 degrees is normal (+/-).  While it's amazing how quickly she adapts to a situation and you wouldn't be able to easily tell she has a hard time seeing, it's pretty easy to walk up right beside her without her even knowing.   She was just introduced to Lighthouse, one of the things they suggested was a service dog.  If it's something that may help her not get hit by a passing car or a person assuming she sees them coming (which happens too often already), i'm all for it.  If there was a medication that didn't involve all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy she's already endured, damn sure i'd give it to her.  If you're mistaking an emotional support dog with a service dog, we're cool.  But if you're really staking your claim about the validity of a service dog for someone that could really benefit from them, consider the people that would much rather not need these animals to function daily tasks that you and I do without thinking twice.  These dogs are well trained for months before being given to the owner.  I was around one the other day, didn't respond to calls, toys, petting...just stood by it's owner all attentive and ####.  

Not trying to be the random internet dbag that's all look at me and my sick kiddo, just trying to provide a personal experience.  I'll hold my opinion on emotional support pets but I can tell you I 100% support service animals if they're deemed to be needed.  The only time I've noticed one in the past few years was the aforementioned fido I saw a few days ago and I live in southwest Florida where half of the damn winter residents can't see a thing, poor old souls.

 
got_nugs said:
I got a kiddo that's fighting cancer.  Due to the radiation of her skull she's got a range of vision about 80 degrees, under 135 degrees is considered legally blind, around 180 degrees is normal (+/-).  While it's amazing how quickly she adapts to a situation and you wouldn't be able to easily tell she has a hard time seeing, it's pretty easy to walk up right beside her without her even knowing.   She was just introduced to Lighthouse, one of the things they suggested was a service dog.  If it's something that may help her not get hit by a passing car or a person assuming she sees them coming (which happens too often already), i'm all for it.  If there was a medication that didn't involve all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy she's already endured, damn sure i'd give it to her.  If you're mistaking an emotional support dog with a service dog, we're cool.  But if you're really staking your claim about the validity of a service dog for someone that could really benefit from them, consider the people that would much rather not need these animals to function daily tasks that you and I do without thinking twice.  These dogs are well trained for months before being given to the owner.  I was around one the other day, didn't respond to calls, toys, petting...just stood by it's owner all attentive and ####.  

Not trying to be the random internet dbag that's all look at me and my sick kiddo, just trying to provide a personal experience.  I'll hold my opinion on emotional support pets but I can tell you I 100% support service animals if they're deemed to be needed.  The only time I've noticed one in the past few years was the aforementioned fido I saw a few days ago and I live in southwest Florida where half of the damn winter residents can't see a thing, poor old souls.
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Well said and best of luck to you and yours.

 
I think the dogs people are up in arms about are the ones you see on people's laps driving around on their scooters to make them feel happy.

 
I like dogs.  I like guide dogs. I like service dogs.  I don't like folks abusing the system to keep untrained yappy mutts with them in restaurants and on planes.  I don't like pit bull owners using this to get around restrictions and bans.  Should be some standards.

Do I loose sleep over the abuses, No.

 
got_nugs said:
I got a kiddo that's fighting cancer.  Due to the radiation of her skull she's got a range of vision about 80 degrees, under 135 degrees is considered legally blind, around 180 degrees is normal (+/-).  While it's amazing how quickly she adapts to a situation and you wouldn't be able to easily tell she has a hard time seeing, it's pretty easy to walk up right beside her without her even knowing.   She was just introduced to Lighthouse, one of the things they suggested was a service dog.  If it's something that may help her not get hit by a passing car or a person assuming she sees them coming (which happens too often already), i'm all for it.  If there was a medication that didn't involve all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy she's already endured, damn sure i'd give it to her.  If you're mistaking an emotional support dog with a service dog, we're cool.  But if you're really staking your claim about the validity of a service dog for someone that could really benefit from them, consider the people that would much rather not need these animals to function daily tasks that you and I do without thinking twice.  These dogs are well trained for months before being given to the owner.  I was around one the other day, didn't respond to calls, toys, petting...just stood by it's owner all attentive and ####.  

Not trying to be the random internet dbag that's all look at me and my sick kiddo, just trying to provide a personal experience.  I'll hold my opinion on emotional support pets but I can tell you I 100% support service animals if they're deemed to be needed.  The only time I've noticed one in the past few years was the aforementioned fido I saw a few days ago and I live in southwest Florida where half of the damn winter residents can't see a thing, poor old souls.
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It's unfortunate when attempts at humor or spotlighting cross over personal experience. Doesn't matter when you're up against it that we meant no harm and hope your daughter gets great benefit from her service dog on the way to a complete recovery. Our hope & support goes with you both.

Heck, there may be people who get real & necessary emotional support from the less-vital uses of service dogs than Nugs's daughter and God bless anyone who gets real relief from the many ways life can ail one. Don't mean there still aint simpering idiots looking to announce theyre needy & special to get one over on folks in this use-your-delusion world.

 
got_nugs said:
I got a kiddo that's fighting cancer.  Due to the radiation of her skull she's got a range of vision about 80 degrees, under 135 degrees is considered legally blind, around 180 degrees is normal (+/-).  While it's amazing how quickly she adapts to a situation and you wouldn't be able to easily tell she has a hard time seeing, it's pretty easy to walk up right beside her without her even knowing.   She was just introduced to Lighthouse, one of the things they suggested was a service dog.  If it's something that may help her not get hit by a passing car or a person assuming she sees them coming (which happens too often already), i'm all for it.  If there was a medication that didn't involve all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy she's already endured, damn sure i'd give it to her.  If you're mistaking an emotional support dog with a service dog, we're cool.  But if you're really staking your claim about the validity of a service dog for someone that could really benefit from them, consider the people that would much rather not need these animals to function daily tasks that you and I do without thinking twice.  These dogs are well trained for months before being given to the owner.  I was around one the other day, didn't respond to calls, toys, petting...just stood by it's owner all attentive and ####.  

Not trying to be the random internet dbag that's all look at me and my sick kiddo, just trying to provide a personal experience.  I'll hold my opinion on emotional support pets but I can tell you I 100% support service animals if they're deemed to be needed.  The only time I've noticed one in the past few years was the aforementioned fido I saw a few days ago and I live in southwest Florida where half of the damn winter residents can't see a thing, poor old souls.
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Absolutely.  I'd also add that "emotional support animal" covers a wide range of service animals, everything from people who have small issues that an animal can help to the veteran with PTSD I linked a video of above.  It's been proven that a support/service animal can make a huge difference in the life of a veteran with PTSD and can stop panic attacks before they start.  I'm all for them.  And purely from a utilitarian standpoint, a service animal that can keep a trained killer from having regular panic attacks seems good for society.

 
wikkidpissah said:
It's unfortunate when attempts at humor or spotlighting cross over personal experience.
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I hope my post didn't come across like I was offended...wasn't my intention.  I'm a jackass and big on finding the funny in things.  Just thought i'd add my personal experience but I didn't honestly read through the entire thread before doing so...had I done so perhaps I would have seen the good natured vibe of the thread.  My bad dudes, didn't mean to nuke the thread, carry on.

I agree with both Hanks suggestion that PTSD sufferers and others genuinely benefit from support animals and those posters that think some take things too far. 

 
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