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But you're forgetting how the Saints traded up to get Ingram and how the Patriots traded down, which makes a ton of difference when one is thinking about Ingram, Vereen, and Ridley.Wouldn't even matter if Ridley was undrafted and Vereen was a 2nd rounder. That's a sunk cost - it's what they do on the field now that matters.
I agree with what you guys are saying. I think the takeaway (at least whenever I use the draft as an example) is that the Patriots perceived Vereen as having higher value than Ridley, just a year and half ago. This would mean nothing if Vereen was still at the end of the bench and not getting any playing time. But, to have that same guy come in and "start" last week and then perform as well as he did, one has to raise an eyebrow. Belichick has been praising the guy all week.
Of course BB wants to give Vereen playing time but that's a far cry from making him the starter. BB clearly had in mind a thunder and lightening attack when he drafted both of them and this is the first chance he's had with both of them healthy to do it. I'm not going to even bother trying to figure out how BB is going to use them week to week, but my gut tells me that Ridley will be the main back but Vereen will be worked in 50/50 occasionally.I agree with what you guys are saying. I think the takeaway (at least whenever I use the draft as an example) is that the Patriots perceived Vereen as having higher value than Ridley, just a year and half ago. This would mean nothing if Vereen was still at the end of the bench and not getting any playing time. But, to have that same guy come in and "start" last week and then perform as well as he did, one has to raise an eyebrow. Belichick has been praising the guy all week.
Lol, I guess that's a possibility. Either way, I think he should be stashed until further notice.
Bel-schitI like it but it doesn't really roll off the tongue that easily. How about Billarky or Bill-foolery.Belichananigans!!
Absolutely not...this isn't baseball...Vereen is playing because after not being able to get on the field due to injuries he is finally healthy, practicing well and earning some playing time...where it goes from here will be determined by his game-day production...
same here.
that doesn't make any kind of sense at all to me.
Surprised that he's not seeing any action, played very well last week. Good news for Ridley owners.ETA: Nevermind!
He has 6 of the 8 carries so far. Still a pretty good RB2
It is, but he doesn't need guys vulturing TD's.
The nice thing is that NE is so productive that even in sharing the pie it's a pretty tasty slice.'ponchsox said:
BUY Ridley low. This is not a timeshare at all.'ponchsox said:
4 100yd games and multiple TDs, that's enough for me!'duaneok66 said:
Vereen may have an increased role, but as long as Ridley stays healthy or doesn't commit a number of bad fumbles, I don't see how Ridley doesn't remain the main guy. He's playing at a very high level right now.
Projections would probably be a wild stab in the dark with the way this team works. He could be gold, and he could be outscored by Woodhead. I don't think he takes the job from Ridley, but that doesn't mean he can't have a strong role in the offense, especially in ppr. He's starting to come on and I could see him with 12-15 touches a game which could put him as a solid flex type... but that's just a guess, you never know how he's gonna be used on a week to week basis.
True but it's possible that Bolden gets in the mix and there's Woodhead too.
I was under the impression that Bolden was still injured.
Upgraded to questionable but my bad Bolden MISSED practice yesterday. I had misread it as he returned to practice. That does improve matters concerning Vereen.
Same here, although the problem is Ridley is very young as well and looks quite good, too. Belicheck may have found his workhorse, and Vereen may never be more than a bit player unless Ridley gets hurt.
He's becoming what I was afraid of - Kevin Faulk 2.0.
The week prior to the bye the split was 15:8 and 17:7 the week before that. I think Ridley will keep getting lots of carries, at least in the games where the Patriots have big leads. But if the games are closer and/or the Pats are behind, Vereen is more of the pass-catching back (Ridley hasn't caught a pass since week 6 and has only one since week 2). The Pats also have one of the toughest rushing schedules the rest of the way, which may mean they don't pound Ridley as much and use Vereen for short passes. Hard to say, but that would be my bet.Ridley has been so consistent for me this season and I hate the possibility that his workload will continue to diminish with Vereen getting more opportunities. But such is life. Vereen has gotten 2.1, 11.6 and 23.3 FFP's the last three weeks compared to Ridley's 15.8, 8.8 and 15.7 FFP's. Obviously Ridley can still produce decent numbers even when Vereen blows up, but going forward are there any indications/thoughts that Vereen may finally wrest more opps. from him? I know a huge chunk of Vereen's points came on the one 80 yard TD run last week and the ratio of carries over that 3 game streak have been 22:5, 13:11 and 21:10 all in favor of Ridley. Actually after typing that out I'm thinking that maybe I am making more out of it than I should be.
Hmmm..that's not the definitive and 100% reassuring answer I was looking for.The week prior to the bye the split was 15:8 and 17:7 the week before that. I think Ridley will keep getting lots of carries, at least in the games where the Patriots have big leads. But if the games are closer and/or the Pats are behind, Vereen is more of the pass-catching back (Ridley hasn't caught a pass since week 6 and has only one since week 2). The Pats also have one of the toughest rushing schedules the rest of the way, which may mean they don't pound Ridley as much and use Vereen for short passes. Hard to say, but that would be my bet.Ridley has been so consistent for me this season and I hate the possibility that his workload will continue to diminish with Vereen getting more opportunities. But such is life. Vereen has gotten 2.1, 11.6 and 23.3 FFP's the last three weeks compared to Ridley's 15.8, 8.8 and 15.7 FFP's. Obviously Ridley can still produce decent numbers even when Vereen blows up, but going forward are there any indications/thoughts that Vereen may finally wrest more opps. from him? I know a huge chunk of Vereen's points came on the one 80 yard TD run last week and the ratio of carries over that 3 game streak have been 22:5, 13:11 and 21:10 all in favor of Ridley. Actually after typing that out I'm thinking that maybe I am making more out of it than I should be.
While I do believe Woodhead's departure is a positive for Vereen, I think the only people catching passes in NE will be Gronk and Hernandez. WRs are just decoys in that offense...someone to take up a defender.
