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Shark Pool combined effort mock - Drafting now! (1 Viewer)
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FUBAR
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spider321
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Bankerguy
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I am not hating on you bro, just not a Jack fan and don't see us taking him at 4. We haven't even brought him in for a visit.
JetMaxx
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Indeed I do but I believe he's the best player on the board, you can never have enough pass rushers, and I don't think they are long for JPP. Imagine a passing down front moving JPP inside with Lawson and Vernon coming from the edges. I gave brief consideration to A'shawn.
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rockaction
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Looking forward to Doctor Oct in a few picks.
J-E-T-S!
J-E-T-S!
FUBAR
Footballguy
True, but if he's good enough, he's worth it. Plus while neither guy is old, the Giants have shown they like a rotation.
Borden
Footballguy
At #19 overall, the Buffalo Bills select...
Josh Doctson. Wide receiver from TCU.
Why not defense? Rex makes and runs his schemes regardless of the skills of his current players. So, I think it's better for them to take defensive players that get knocked down draft boards for not being "complete" players but whose limited skill set works for what will be asked of them.
Why not OL? Taylor being a QB that is good on the move means that he doesn't need a perfect pocket and the OL was good enough last year and can still be addressed later.
Why Doctson? He works well with a QB that extends plays with his legs. He finds and settles in holes well and he always works back to the QB. The other thing is that Tyrod can just lop it up and trust that most of the time Doctson is going to win. Pinpoint accuracy is not required. Watkins will still draw coverage but teams won't be able to strictly focus on him.
This pick fits the best and I think will net the best gains for the team.
Edit: I'm on my phone so that's as spiced up as I can get this right now.
Josh Doctson. Wide receiver from TCU.
Why not defense? Rex makes and runs his schemes regardless of the skills of his current players. So, I think it's better for them to take defensive players that get knocked down draft boards for not being "complete" players but whose limited skill set works for what will be asked of them.
Why not OL? Taylor being a QB that is good on the move means that he doesn't need a perfect pocket and the OL was good enough last year and can still be addressed later.
Why Doctson? He works well with a QB that extends plays with his legs. He finds and settles in holes well and he always works back to the QB. The other thing is that Tyrod can just lop it up and trust that most of the time Doctson is going to win. Pinpoint accuracy is not required. Watkins will still draw coverage but teams won't be able to strictly focus on him.
This pick fits the best and I think will net the best gains for the team.
Edit: I'm on my phone so that's as spiced up as I can get this right now.
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Andy Dufresne
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I like the Giants pick.
I hate the Bills pick...for the Vikings. :(
I hate the Bills pick...for the Vikings. :(
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
1.20 The New York Jets select QB Paxton Lynch, Memphis
Moonshine
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rockaction
Footballguy
Oh! This is somewhere between Kyle Brady and Revis.
Yeah, interesting choice. Who else, right?
spider321
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Even if they resign Fitz, I think this would be the right move. How often will they get this chance? Before crapping the bed in one Bowl game, Lynch was considered by a lot of people as the top QB in this draft.
rockaction
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I think Dr. Oct. did a great job for the purposes of the mock. GGN keeps reporting they're interested in Lynch. The Jets are really in an unenviable position this year.
Dr. Octopus
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. Just wanted to give that Jets cheer at the draft for ya, dude. Halfway between the groan and elation.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Did I miss goff going? Lynch before goff? I suppose he could have the higher ceiling
spider321
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
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Snorkelson
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Ahh I even went back and looked but it's all mashing together and I'm scrolling too fast.
And he's like a faster flacco, look out. No 1 in our hearts
And he's like a faster flacco, look out. No 1 in our hearts
RC94
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I like the pick and agree with your reasoning. JPP is only signed for this year and the NYG defense is powered by the d-line. Also, the NYG have already done this kind of thing - they drafted JPP when Umenyiora and Tuck were playing well.
Yenrub
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JetMaxx
Footballguy
To net a mid 3rd to mid 2nd trade up and the first pick in rd 3 in multiple trade downs and walking with Shaq here is hard to dispute.
JetMaxx
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Perhaps. But I perceive that to move from 15 to 10 for a 2nd isn't going to happen in this draft where the value lies in rd 2-3. 10 doesn't hold that level of value.
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massraider
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Biabreakable
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As much as I would love for Doctson to fall to the Vikings at pick 23 I just don't see this happening. Great pick for the Bills there.
FUBAR
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coolnerd
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with pick 1.22 , the Houston Texans select Hunter Henry TE Arkansas.
The TE position for the Texans under Bill O'Brien has underperformed. Henry looks to be three down player who with goodness is all aspects but maybe not greatness. Projects as an above average not elite starter. In a perfect world, the Texans are able to trade down a little, but getting the top rated player at a position of need is justified here to me.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341
The TE position for the Texans under Bill O'Brien has underperformed. Henry looks to be three down player who with goodness is all aspects but maybe not greatness. Projects as an above average not elite starter. In a perfect world, the Texans are able to trade down a little, but getting the top rated player at a position of need is justified here to me.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341
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steelers1080
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Has anyone taken Treadwell?
massraider
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coolnerd
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Andy Dufresne
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1.23 - Minnesota Vikings - Laquon Treadwell, WR - Ole Miss
Diggs was a find last year and hopefully he can take the next step. Charles Johnson flamed out but that may be injury related. Jarius Wright is a decent role player.
But this would be a massive infusion of talent to the teams weakest corps.
The offensive line should be improved. The defense should be awesome. Let's get some excitement going in US Bank Stadium!
Skol, Vikings!
matttyl
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steelers1080
Footballguy
That would have been a great pick I think. Then they could have tried to trade Garcon to the Browns for a 3rd or 4th round pick.
matttyl
Footballguy
Agreed. Being that I had already held up the draft for like 9 hours - sorry guys, I had to get some sleep - I didn't want to hold it up any more trying to pull a trade or something.
Anyway, I meant to check on the draft before I went to bed last night, but I took a pretty nasty spill of my mountain bike last night, went home and took some pain killers and went to bed. Drafting on pain meds likely not a smart move - but may explain Cleveland's drafts these past few years
Also, the Redskins drafting at #21 was kinda pulling on my heart strings (RIP Sean Taylor).
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Since all the WR's I liked are gone, going in a different direction because I am not sold on Fuller as a 1st round value.
At 1.24, the Cincinnati Bengals select DT A'Shawn Robinson. He'll start as part of the rotation where Atkins can whip him into shape and reach his full potential.
At 1.24, the Cincinnati Bengals select DT A'Shawn Robinson. He'll start as part of the rotation where Atkins can whip him into shape and reach his full potential.
Pwingles
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I like it. Im down on fuller in the first as well. Guys like Boyd, caroo, thomas, etc can be had in the next round
I will have to say, disappointed a bit that I missed out on Hargreaves at 13 and Treadwell (and Coleman to a degree, didn't see him going at 9) at 24. Apple was my pick before we started, so I stuck with it, but it does make you think about the interesting decisions GMs have to make. There are guys they may assume will be gone and maybe didn't scout them as well as guys they felt would be there. If you loved Apple at 13 and thought Hargreaves is gone by 8 or 9, what do you do?
Exactly my thought. I actually liked Coleman better than Treadwell/Doctson because I thought a faster WR would be better opposite Green/Eifert, but wasn't willing to take Fuller in the 1st. That would be reaching when there are a lot of better BPA guys at other needs.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
There's so much defensive line talent in this draft it's ridiculous.
massraider
Footballguy
It's OK, I know you regret taking Treadwell, almost relieved you took that option away. I needed DT more than you anyway.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I've read conflicting things about Robinson. More that he's overrated than that he's good. But who knows with ANY defensive tackle?
steelers1080
Footballguy
Potentially 10 in the first round... wut?!
That said, due to needs, many could fall into the 2nd and make ridiculous value.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
In deep drafts like this, seems to me that teams trying to play catch up should consider more the idea of trading next year's picks for this year's.
Yeah, I went based on potential, i.e. he didn't live up to it and be consistent enough to be top 10. Cincy has 2 DTs/NTs, one getting old and not so good, so I think as a rotation to start turning into a full time guy is an ideal situation for him to get turned into a solid guy. As a Panthers fan, I watched Short go from rotational to utterly dominant this year. I don't know if he got as much hype as Donald for the Rams got outside of Charlotte, but he was just ridiculous at times taking over games and getting the same 11 sacks as a DT, just dominant and fun to watch.
I've read conflicting things about Robinson. More that he's overrated than that he's good. But who knows with ANY defensive tackle?
