Shark Pool Mock Draft - #1 (1 Viewer)

[rascal]

Denver looking to trade up.

22 is available

It depends on what yellow dog does. I've already sent him a PM.

 

[tdmills]

Denver looking to trade up.

22 is available

It depends on what yellow dog does. I've already sent him a PM.

My guess for Rascal

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Tavon Austin

 

[rascal]

yellowdog here?

 

[IHEARTFF]

rudge Siren:Saints are looking to trade up and get in here. Don't have a 2nd, but some combo of a 3rd, 4th, and 5th are up for trade.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Denver looking to trade up.

vote rascal

LOLI didn't want to depart with my third, sorry.

I didn't ask for your third - I wanted your 1/2 for my 1/4.

 

[rascal]

Denver looking to trade up.

vote rascal

LOLI didn't want to depart with my third, sorry.

I didn't ask for your third - I wanted your 1/2 for my 1/4.

It was fair, but I still wouldn't have done it.

 

[yellowdog]

I'm here. Give me 2 minutes.

 

[yellowdog]

With the 21st pick, the Cincinnati Bengals select Eddie Lacy, Running Back - Alabama

I know there are needs on the defensive side of the ball, but we should be able to address those with 2 second round picks. I also considered a speedy receiver/return guy here, but couldn't pull the trigger.

 

[tdmills]

With the 21st pick, the Cincinnati Bengals select Eddie Lacy, Running Back - Alabama

I know there are needs on the defensive side of the ball, but we should be able to address those with 2 second round picks. I also considered a speedy receiver/return guy here, but couldn't pull the trigger.

Really like this pick. AJ Green/Sanu/Marvin Jones/Hawkins/Greshem, lots of weapons for Dalton. A solid running game will make defenses stay honest and open things up.

 

[rascal]

That changes things.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

That changes things.

You could have had him at #17.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Vikings are looking to move down a few spots...

 

[RBM]

I'm looking to trade down here at 22 and pick up a third. I'll give it a half hour at most, then just pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Bears should take:

Spoiler

Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame

 

[tdmills]

Bears should take:

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Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame

They should move down again IMO, lots of players that would fit them.

 

[RBM]

Bears should take:

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Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame

Really think that pos and hopefully LT will be addressed in FA. Hoping for a Bushrod/Cook combo

 

[RBM]

Bears should take:

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Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame

They should move down again IMO, lots of players that would fit them.Yup. Hoping Emery has an easier time than I'm having

 

[Grahamburn]

Can Tampa change their pick to Xavier Rhodes?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

To get caught up on picks/trades.

Round 1

1. Kansas City - Andy D - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama

2. Jacksonville -jshare87 - Barkevious Mingo, DE - LSU

3. Oakland - krsone21 - Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida

4. Philadelphia - Slider - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

5. Detroit - Tem ramrod - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

6. Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - Jarvis Jones, LB - Georgia

7 Arizona - ebaughn - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia

8 Buffalo - Donsmith753 - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee

9 NY Jets - Hell Toupee - Dion Jordan, DE/OL - Oregon.

10 Tennessee - FUBAR - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama

11 San Diego – Ray Finkle -Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma

12 Miami - JackReacher - Bjoern Werner, DE- Florida St.

13 Tampa Bay – RJS113 - Khaseem Greene, OLB - Rutgers

14 Carolina - jurb26 - Star Lotulelei, DT - Utah

15. New Orleans - IHEARTFF - Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB- BYU

16 St. Louis - tdmills - Kenny Vaccaro, S - Texas

17 Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M

18 Dallas - FunkyTeaParty - Jonathan Cooper, G - North Carolina

19 NY Giants - amicsta - Sheldon Richardson, DT - Mizzou

*TRADE 20 Chicago trades pick to St. Louis- tdmills - Keenan Allen WR - Cal

21 Cincinnati - yellowdog - Eddie Lacy, RB - Alabama

*TRADE 22 St. Louis (from Washington) trades pick to Chicago- RBM - -

23 Minnesota - FunkyPlutos - -

24 Indianapolis - Bamac - -

25 Seattle - biju - -

26 Green Bay - meyerj31 - -

27 Houston - meecrob - -

28 Denver - rascal - -

29 New England – Tackling Dummies - -

30 Atlanta - Andy D - -

31 San Francisco - Spin - -

32 Baltimore - The Hank - -

*Chicago trades down from 20 to 22 with St. Louis and acquires St. Louis’ 4th round draft pick

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Thinking ahead on the Atlanta pick...You know, for a team that went to the conference championship they sure have a lot of needs.

 

[rascal]

Thinking ahead on the Atlanta pick...You know, for a team that went to the conference championship they sure have a lot of needs.

Same with Denver. I can count at least five positions.

 

[RBM]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida StOLine is top need but I don't see anything here. I wanted Cooper. I have some hope of signing a legit LT and moving Webb to RT to compete with Carimi. That leaves a starting guard slot open. After line I think the biggest need is to get younger on D, all over. Tillman is getting up there, Hayden stunk. Jennings was great but he's pretty small. I think Rhodes is best available defender.

 

[tdmills]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida StOLine is top need but I don't see anything here. I wanted Cooper. I have some hope of signing a legit LT and moving Webb to RT to compete with Carimi. That leaves a starting guard slot open. After line I think the biggest need is to get younger on D, all over. Tillman is getting up there, Hayden stunk. Jennings was great but he's pretty small. I think Rhodes is best available defender.

I can see this pick, you were stuck. I don't like Eifert, think a vet TE is the way to go there.I would've taken the BPA, Tavon Austin. Cut Hester. Austin is the return/slot/reverse guy. Defenses can't double Marshall as often then.

 

[Grahamburn]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida StOLine is top need but I don't see anything here. I wanted Cooper. I have some hope of signing a legit LT and moving Webb to RT to compete with Carimi. That leaves a starting guard slot open. After line I think the biggest need is to get younger on D, all over. Tillman is getting up there, Hayden stunk. Jennings was great but he's pretty small. I think Rhodes is best available defender.

This kid made himself some money today.

 

[RBM]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida StOLine is top need but I don't see anything here. I wanted Cooper. I have some hope of signing a legit LT and moving Webb to RT to compete with Carimi. That leaves a starting guard slot open. After line I think the biggest need is to get younger on D, all over. Tillman is getting up there, Hayden stunk. Jennings was great but he's pretty small. I think Rhodes is best available defender.

I can see this pick, you were stuck. I don't like Eifert, think a vet TE is the way to go there.I would've taken the BPA, Tavon Austin. Cut Hester. Austin is the return/slot/reverse guy. Defenses can't double Marshall as often then.

His name did pop in my head, as did Fluker and Eifert. I just see this defense getting very old with very few good, young guys. Makes me nervous.Now if they don't get a starter or two on the o line in FA, they will probably have to take Fluker, who I'm not crazy about.

 

[tdmills]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida StOLine is top need but I don't see anything here. I wanted Cooper. I have some hope of signing a legit LT and moving Webb to RT to compete with Carimi. That leaves a starting guard slot open. After line I think the biggest need is to get younger on D, all over. Tillman is getting up there, Hayden stunk. Jennings was great but he's pretty small. I think Rhodes is best available defender.

I can see this pick, you were stuck. I don't like Eifert, think a vet TE is the way to go there.I would've taken the BPA, Tavon Austin. Cut Hester. Austin is the return/slot/reverse guy. Defenses can't double Marshall as often then.

His name did pop in my head, as did Fluker and Eifert. I just see this defense getting very old with very few good, young guys. Makes me nervous.Now if they don't get a starter or two on the o line in FA, they will probably have to take Fluker, who I'm not crazy about.

Fluker could be an option as well, Carimi sure did tank.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Ok at 1.22 The Chicago Bears take Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St

 

[Abrantes]

Yucky trade up by the Rams.I've seen the Vaccaro/Allen combo projected to those picks in a bunch of mocks, and as sensible as it looks, it's the most boring combination I can imagine. Meh.

 

[tdmills]

Yucky trade up by the Rams.I've seen the Vaccaro/Allen combo projected to those picks in a bunch of mocks, and as sensible as it looks, it's the most boring combination I can imagine. Meh.

Why thank you, haha.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Vikings still wanting to move down...will pick in about 15 mins. if I don't get a reasonable offer.

 

[meyerj31]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round. Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Vikings have traded 1st round positions with Houston...and picked up Houston's fourth round pick.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Found it amusing that I read 4 updated mocks today after making the Steelers' pick and all 4 mocks had Damontre Moore going to Pittsburgh.

 

[tdmills]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round. Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

Supply/demand. Comparing across classes doesn't matter. Randy Moss went 21 overall too.

 

[Meecrob]

@23 Houston Selects: Tavon Austin WR/RB/KR/PR/Equipment Manager, West Virginia.The most electric player in the draft. Perfect fit for us here, fills a need with a big play threat at receiver, he will also be able to take some handoff's in certain packages ala Percy Harvin, as well as an instant and much needed upgrade to our return game. I would jizz my pants if Houston does this.

 

[IHEARTFF]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round. Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

Supply/demand. Comparing across classes doesn't matter. Randy Moss went 21 overall too.

Many of the teams that pick late in 1st round could use an upgrade at RB. I think 2 will go in the 1st.

 

[HellToupee]

Found it amusing that I read 4 updated mocks today after making the Steelers' pick and all 4 mocks had Damontre Moore going to Pittsburgh.

As a fellow Steelers fan I hope you & those 4 mocks are wrong. I don't mind the position , its just a Moore thing

 

[cheese]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round. Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

Supply/demand. Comparing across classes doesn't matter. Randy Moss went 21 overall too.

Many of the teams that pick late in 1st round could use an upgrade at RB. I think 2 will go in the 1st.

For the Bengals it just depends on free agency. For this to happen, it means they already signed AT MINIMUM a starting LB or a starting Safety. No chance they let both gaping holes slide into rd2 and take a RB. If one or both of those needs get addressed first, Lacy at 21 makes sense.

 

[Bamac]

COLTS: Jonathan HankinsWould've liked an OLB, but will settle for an anchor NT.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round. Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

Okay. I just snickered. But still.

 

[biju]

With the 25th pick in the 2013 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select:

Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina

During the 2012 season the Seattle defense relied too heavily on its secondary to keep the passing game in check. It was not able to generate enough interior pass rush on a consistent basis to help out the DEs and collapse the pocket to force errant passes. Jason Jones was brought in on a one year "prove it" deal for 2012 and through injuries showed that he does have the capability, but there is no guarantee the Seahawks re-sign him. Also heading into free agency is Alan Branch who had a resurgence in 2011 and then was inconsistent in 2012. Branch was seen more as a run stuffer but did perform decently once Jones was put on the IR.

Sylvester Williams is seen as a "run plugger" by many, but offers an explosive first step (10-yard split was 5th best for DTs in this year's combine). He is an effective bull-rusher and has shown the ability to close and deliver a punishing blow to his target. He offers there rare combination of speed and power the team covets across the board. The Seahawks might have been looking to trade up if Sheldon Richardson comes this close to making it to them as I see him as a better talent overall, but in light of not being able to make that deal they are ultimately satisfied with taking Williams with the 25th pick who was the fourth rated DT on their board. The one area of concern for the Seahawks coaches is consistently maintaining his leverage when rushing the passer, as he can get consumed if not low enough when engaging the offensive line.

Jonathan Hankins would have been a viable alternative here as well as he has both 3-tech and 5-tech ability and the team does need a backup plan if Red Bryant were to go down with injury.

Other considerations:

Best Available Defensive End: Chris Clemons went down during the Playoffs Wildcard round game with ACL tear and is likely to be on the PUP to start the season. He takes with him 33.5 sacks over the past three season and a substantial amount of the pass rush Seattle had in 2012. Bruce Irvin is seen as his eventual successor but was unable to contain the run during the Divisional round game against Atlanta and might only be seen as a pass rush specialist. This means the Seahawks could be looking for an every down player. There is a chance they go with a veteran in free agency, however John Schneider has shown that he prefers to build through the draft.

Best Available Wide Receiver: It is a common argument within the Seahawks fans on whether the team should focus on continuing to improve their near-elite defense or simply start outscoring the other team by improving the passing game. By improving the passing game they also improve the running game which many teams sell out in order to stop Marshawn Lynch. There are a lot of people who view the trio of Sidney Rice, Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin and consider them one of the worst WR corps in the league. Those people would generally be correct, although with the current run game in place and Russell Wilson continuing to grow this isn't as glaring a need. The team ultimately decides there isn't a reason to go WR in the 1st round with the draft deep in WRs and the most dynamic of them (Tavon Austin) off the board. The Seahawks will gamble on acquiring that WR in the second round or finding value in the 3rd.

EDIT: Williams was the 4th rated DT on their board, not the 3rd.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Found it amusing that I read 4 updated mocks today after making the Steelers' pick and all 4 mocks had Damontre Moore going to Pittsburgh.

As a fellow Steelers fan I hope you & those 4 mocks are wrong. I don't mind the position, its just a Moore thing

He has his flaws, no doubt, but you have to remember that he's barely 20 years old and put up better stats at A&M than Von Miller did, playing the same position. I'd probably have taken most of the other OLB prospects ahead of him, but in this mock, he's all that was left. I'm not taking Lacy, Austin, or Keenan Allen at #17, Vaccaro went one pick ahead. It was down to Moore or one other guy, but although the other guy will likely be long gone when the Steelers pick again at #50 (I think) - a more reasonable facsimile of that guy will be available than will a pass rusher.What Moore lacks in explosion and refinement, he makes up for with a variety of pass rush moves and a non-stop motor. He may not have the physical upside of Werner, Ansah, Jordan, or Mingo, but if you consider that as a 19-year-old sophomore, he had 85 tackles, 21.5 TFL and 8.5 sacks as a stand-up OLB, the production and the ability to play in our scheme are there. Add to that the fact that he upped that total to 12.5 sacks as a junior in the best conference in the country and he's worth a shot. I'd have felt much better taking him in round 2, but I don't see a chance in hell he drops that far.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

With the 25th pick in the 2013 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select:

Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina

Too early. But then that's been the M.O. for the 'Hawks and it's worked out okay.Are you sure you didn't mean Jesse Williams from Alabama?

 

[biju]

With the 25th pick in the 2013 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select:

Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina

Too early. But then that's been the M.O. for the 'Hawks and it's worked out okay.Are you sure you didn't mean Jesse Williams from Alabama?

Jesse Williams was considere,d however because of his lack of a quick first step he is generally more considered to be a pure run stopper. He might have the raw power to simply push his way back, but the Seahawks need to really find someone that can be both a run plugger and a disruptive force in the pass rush. I just don't see Jesse Williams as that person.What I do like about him however is his motor as he goes "snap to whistle" every play, something that Sylvester Williams sometimes lacks if the play is away from him.

 

[meyerj31]

Another update...

Round 1

1. Kansas City - Andy D - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama

2. Jacksonville -jshare87 - Barkevious Mingo, DE - LSU

3. Oakland - krsone21 - Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida

4. Philadelphia - Slider - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

5. Detroit - Tem ramrod - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

6. Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - Jarvis Jones, LB - Georgia

7 Arizona - ebaughn - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia

8 Buffalo - Donsmith753 - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee

9 NY Jets - Hell Toupee - Dion Jordan, DE/OL - Oregon.

10 Tennessee - FUBAR - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama

11 San Diego – Ray Finkle -Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma

12 Miami - JackReacher - Bjoern Werner, DE- Florida St.

13 Tampa Bay – RJS113 - Khaseem Greene, OLB - Rutgers

14 Carolina - jurb26 - Star Lotulelei, DT - Utah

15. New Orleans - IHEARTFF - Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB- BYU

16 St. Louis - tdmills - Kenny Vaccaro, S - Texas

17 Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M

18 Dallas - FunkyTeaParty - Jonathan Cooper, G - North Carolina

19 NY Giants - amicsta - Sheldon Richardson, DT - Mizzou

*TRADE 20 Chicago trades pick to St. Louis- tdmills - Keenan Allen WR - Cal

21 Cincinnati - yellowdog - Eddie Lacy, RB - Alabama

*TRADE 22 St. Louis (from Washington) trades pick to Chicago- RBM - selects Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida ST -

*TRADE 23 Minnesota trades pick to Houston- RBM - selects Tavun Austin WR/RB/KR/PR/Equipment Manager, West Virginia -

24 Indianapolis - Bamac - Jonathan Jankins (?) -

25 Seattle - biju - Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina

26 Green Bay - meyerj31 - DJ Fluker, OT Alabama -

*TRADE 27 Vikings - ? - -

28 Denver - rascal - -

29 New England – Tackling Dummies - -

30 Atlanta - Andy D - -

31 San Francisco - Spin - -

32 Baltimore - The Hank - -

(sorry if not formatted perfect, doing this over lunch at work).

 

[rascal]

Broncos are looking to trade.....down.LOL

 

[The Hank]

Broncos are looking to trade.....down.LOL

Ravens are too.

 

[Spin]

I like that pick for the Hawks, and really like the trade up from Houston earlier. Well done.

 

[meyerj31]

For the Fluker pick... if he actually falls this far, I can't the Packers passing up that value, even if Bulaga/Sherrod come back healthy. I'm not certain Sherrod will ever play again after that broken leg, and there's such a premium on the big guys. The Packers will give an extension to Rodgers over the off-season and they can't afford another year of 50+ sacks.I would have liked to get a mean DT here but no one of high enough value fell, and I think Fluker has more value than the next wave of DTs.I especially like that the draft profiles says he has a "mean streak" and plays very physical. Green Bay needs more of that on both lines.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

There is no way Eddie Lacy goes as high as 21 overall.

Doug Martin had a better draft profile and was barely selected in the 1st round.

Lacy will be there in the 2nd, IMO. I think he's a reach in the 1st round anywhere.

I'm not sure that's true. I know Martin turned in a great rookie season, but I think at best Lacy is viewed as an equal prospect - and a good 40 time at his pro day could move him up well past Martin.