*** SHAUN ALEXANDER THREAD *** (1 Viewer)

[The Jacket]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.

The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL.

They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL. They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

Alright Jacket....enough already...please.Everyone now knows how much you dislike SA by the 20 something threads that point out this fact...we get it...now move on. I want useful information,not some redundant chatter saying he sucks.

 

[The Jacket]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

 

[Real Man of Genius]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

Good info here.

 

[jerseydevil20]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

Which other MVPs / TD record-holders suck?Make an argument for overrated, but go to the ridiculous extreme "he sucks" and you immediately lose credibility and look stupid. If SA sucks, who do you consider talented? That was a retorical question by the way.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I started Shaun Alexander and benched Jamal Lewis in the process yesterday. Of course I lost despite starting Frank Gore & Carson Palmer too.

Man, I hope Holmgren improves that OL in the off-season. Shaun looked pathetic again yesterday. And why the hell did we Shaun owners not get to play him against Oak, St Louis (twice).... what a travesty

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Seahawks | Alexander should get more work Week 12

Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:42:26 -0800

Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports Seattle Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (foot) felt fine Monday, Nov. 20, and should receive more work during the Week 12 game.

 

[The Jacket]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

Which other MVPs / TD record-holders suck?Make an argument for overrated, but go to the ridiculous extreme "he sucks" and you immediately lose credibility and look stupid. If SA sucks, who do you consider talented? That was a retorical question by the way.

The irony of someone trying to call me stupid while asking me a "retorical" ( ) question.I'll leave this thread alone... if I'm not continually quoted. (For the record, it was a clear exaggeration - and with intended sarcasm in response to how I "hate" Alexander. Other MVPs? Mostly, off the top of my head, much better and certainly more deserving than him.)

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

Which other MVPs / TD record-holders suck?Make an argument for overrated, but go to the ridiculous extreme "he sucks" and you immediately lose credibility and look stupid. If SA sucks, who do you consider talented? That was a retorical question by the way.

The irony of someone trying to call me stupid while asking me a "retorical" ( ) question.I'll leave this thread alone... if I'm not continually quoted. (For the record, it was a clear exaggeration - and with intended sarcasm in response to how I "hate" Alexander. Other MVPs? Mostly, off the top of my head, much better and certainly more deserving than him.)

S. Alexander 40 201 5.0 ..........well??? What do you have to say now...i can`t wait to read this.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.

The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL.

They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

Brilliant!

 

[Akdanom]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.

The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL.

They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

Brilliant!

This has been a good week ... My trade has been justified (portis (week he got hurt) for SA (owner of SA thought he was done for the year (Also a Dynasty league) ) ) alas he is primed for FFB playoff runs everywhere.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.

The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL.

They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

Brilliant!

X 4000000000000000000000000

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

Which other MVPs / TD record-holders suck?Make an argument for overrated, but go to the ridiculous extreme "he sucks" and you immediately lose credibility and look stupid. If SA sucks, who do you consider talented? That was a retorical question by the way.

The irony of someone trying to call me stupid while asking me a "retorical" ( ) question.I'll leave this thread alone... if I'm not continually quoted. (For the record, it was a clear exaggeration - and with intended sarcasm in response to how I "hate" Alexander. Other MVPs? Mostly, off the top of my head, much better and certainly more deserving than him.)

You're not stupid?

 

[blueboys21]

Just for the record, I stand by every word I said.

The dude is absolutely horrible without an elite OL.

They give him the ball yesterday on 4th-and-one and the dude folds for -1 yard. Larry Johnson, as a simple and similar comparison, gets the same opportunity, against a better defense, and goes for a few yards against a stacked-up defensive front and only went down because he was pulled by the facemask.

That O-line behind which he torched the 5th ranked Run defense was also missing pro-bowl center Tobeck and RT Locklear.Kinda knocks that arguement outta the park doesn't it...

 

[cubbie5150]

For me, the jury remains out until the Denver game week 13. If SA is effective Sunday night, on the road against a nasty run defense that last week got run over by LJ, then I'll be willing to say SA is clearly back to form. Barring news that Frank Gore's injury will limit him @ NO, SA will once again reside on my bench in favor of Gore & Westbrook...

Obviously, not everyone is as lucky as me to have those 3 options... (& yes, I did draft SA & Westbrook; made a multi-player trade acquiring Gore the week of SF's BYE when the other owner needed a RB--I gave him Delhomme/Fred Taylor/Mushin in exchange for Big Ben/Gore?Chambers)..

 

[The Jacket]

One game and you're swinging off his jock?

425 yards, 2 TD, 3.5 per carry - 3.5!

Please... bump this thread when he folds up in Denver next week.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

One game and you're swinging off his jock?

425 yards, 2 TD, 3.5 per carry - 3.5!

Please... bump this thread when he folds up in Denver next week.

I'm sure you will bump it as soon as he has back to back one yard carries. That's good shtick.

 

[The Jacket]

I'm sure you will bump it as soon as he has back to back one yard carries.

I won't have enough time for that.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

One game and you're swinging off his jock?

425 yards, 2 TD, 3.5 per carry - 3.5!

Please... bump this thread when he folds up in Denver next week.

Let me get this straight...You called perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history "absolutely horrible without an elite OL" because he had 3 subpar games this year (and 2 of them were with a broken foot) and you have the nerve to say that we're guilty of a knee jerk reaction because he had a 200 yard game in his second game back?Again, brilliant posting. Keep up the good work.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

One game and you're swinging off his jock?

425 yards, 2 TD, 3.5 per carry - 3.5!

Please... bump this thread when he folds up in Denver next week.

Dude ...man up and admit your just being stubborn on this...it`s not 1 game...SA has been playing at this level for years.....he ran circles around greenbay WITHOUT AN ELITE LINE and he`s not even 100% yet.I guess EVERYONE in ff is wrong but you about his talent. You are either on the biggest fishing trip of your life OR your just ignorant...

 

[Lauryn]

I don't dislike Alexander. He just sucks.

:11: :11: :11: :11: you make edwardcat look astute. way to go.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

.......championship...........

Shaun Alexander-RB- Seahawks Dec. 2 - 9:12 am et

Shaun Alexander is calling for the ball in the red zone.

The Seahawks haven't scored a rushing touchdown since September 24. Alexander carried six times inside the 20 last Monday but didn't punch it in. "He made a point of talking to me about that," coach Mike Holmgren said. "It’s good to have him back because he likes the red zone."

Source: The News Tribune

 

[broncofan13000]

.......championship........... Shaun Alexander-RB- Seahawks Dec. 2 - 9:12 am et Shaun Alexander is calling for the ball in the red zone.The Seahawks haven't scored a rushing touchdown since September 24. Alexander carried six times inside the 20 last Monday but didn't punch it in. "He made a point of talking to me about that," coach Mike Holmgren said. "It’s good to have him back because he likes the red zone."Source: The News Tribune

:drool:

 

[BustedKnuckles]

.......championship........... Shaun Alexander-RB- Seahawks Dec. 2 - 9:12 am et Shaun Alexander is calling for the ball in the red zone.The Seahawks haven't scored a rushing touchdown since September 24. Alexander carried six times inside the 20 last Monday but didn't punch it in. "He made a point of talking to me about that," coach Mike Holmgren said. "It’s good to have him back because he likes the red zone."Source: The News Tribune

And even more good news........Shaun Alexander, RB SEANews: Seattle RB Shaun Alexander thinks he has a shot at getting to 1,000 yards by season's end despite missing nearly two months of the season. His 201-yard game against the Packers left him with 425 yards. He needs 575 yards over the final five games, meaning he must average 115 yards per game the rest of the way.Analysis: Alexander obviously is back to 100 percent and should be considered a No. 1 option in Week 13 against Denver.

 

[RoosterScott]

Denver has been suspect against the run the last 3 weeks. If Alexander's tackle is healthy enough to play look out. Can somebody give me some stats about Shaun playing in primetime during his career. He usually explodes on primetime! GO SHAUN!

 

[broncofan13000]

Denver has been suspect against the run the last 3 weeks. If Alexander's tackle is healthy enough to play look out. Can somebody give me some stats about Shaun playing in primetime during his career. He usually explodes on primetime! GO SHAUN!

Primetime ShaunPrime-time Alexander

A look at each of Shaun Alexander's prime-time rushing efforts since becoming the Seahawks' featured running back in 2001:

Nov. 11, 2001 vs. Oakland 266 yards 3 td's W, 34-27

Dec. 9, 2001 at Denver 28 yards 0 td's L, 20-7

Sept. 29, 2002 vs. Minnesota 139 yards 5 td's* W, 48-23

Oct. 14, 2002 vs. San Francisco 96 yards 1 td L, 28-21

Oct. 12, 2003 vs. San Francisco 77 yards 0 td's W, 20-19

Dec. 6, 2004 vs. Dallas 83 yards 2 td's L, 43-39

Oct. 16, 2005 vs. Houston 141 yards 4 td's W, 42-10

Dec. 5, 2005 at Philadelphia 49 yards 2 td's W, 42-0

Monday vs. Green Bay 201 yards 0 td's W, 34-24

in 9 games 1346 yards and 17 td's

average of 150 yards and 2 td's a game

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Denver has been suspect against the run the last 3 weeks. If Alexander's tackle is healthy enough to play look out. Can somebody give me some stats about Shaun playing in primetime during his career. He usually explodes on primetime! GO SHAUN!

Is it really fair to call the Broncos defense "suspect against the run"? I'm not even convinced the Bears or Ravens run defense would look good in a 3 week stretch that includes games against LT, LJ, and now Shaun Alexander.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Denver has been suspect against the run the last 3 weeks. If Alexander's tackle is healthy enough to play look out. Can somebody give me some stats about Shaun playing in primetime during his career. He usually explodes on primetime! GO SHAUN!

Primetime ShaunPrime-time Alexander

A look at each of Shaun Alexander's prime-time rushing efforts since becoming the Seahawks' featured running back in 2001:

Nov. 11, 2001 vs. Oakland 266 yards 3 td's W, 34-27

Dec. 9, 2001 at Denver 28 yards 0 td's L, 20-7

Sept. 29, 2002 vs. Minnesota 139 yards 5 td's* W, 48-23

Oct. 14, 2002 vs. San Francisco 96 yards 1 td L, 28-21

Oct. 12, 2003 vs. San Francisco 77 yards 0 td's W, 20-19

Dec. 6, 2004 vs. Dallas 83 yards 2 td's L, 43-39

Oct. 16, 2005 vs. Houston 141 yards 4 td's W, 42-10

Dec. 5, 2005 at Philadelphia 49 yards 2 td's W, 42-0

Monday vs. Green Bay 201 yards 0 td's W, 34-24

in 9 games 1346 yards and 17 td's

average of 150 yards and 2 td's a game

I told you he sucks.....signed, THE JACKET

 

[billymays]

the guy doesnt impress me

is he really that good.

he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps

i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

 

[gman8343]

you're pretty tough to impress I guess.

 

[RenegadeGM]

the guy doesnt impress me

is he really that good.

he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps

i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

Not sure about that guy, but Shaun Alexander is facing a pretty tough run defense tonight.

 

[Righetti]

who is this Sean Alexander you speak of?

 

[aposulli]

the guy doesnt impress meis he really that good.he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

 

[Iron Mike Tomczak]

Ya, 70 yards and a TD at this point in the game is just pitiful.

Youre an imbecile man. all respect intended. shaun on a bad day is the 5th best RB in football.

 

[billymays]

ok christ

all the english majors are falling out of the woodworks now

ill just call him this from now on to cover my bases, cool?

shjon shaun shawn sean shon shown alexander

 

[RenegadeGM]

ok christall the english majors are falling out of the woodworks now ill just call him this from now on to cover my bases, cool? shjon shaun shawn sean shon shown alexander

Our fault, guy. We should have realized he's a pretty obscure player in FF, so his name isn't out there, like, all the time. Signed,Paytun Manneng's #1 fan!

 

[billymays]

you guys might want to chase down the guy who did the corey dillon 10,000 yard thread in a hurry!

he called him "cory"

now back to shaun runnin like a little #####......dammit run over someone shaun

 

[Righetti]

something tells me that his thread isn't going to go anywhere

 

[LivingTheDream]

you guys might want to chase down the guy who did the corey dillon 10,000 yard thread in a hurry!he called him "cory"now back to shaun runnin like a little #####......dammit run over someone shaun

Yes, Alexander runs like a coward. He's a product of his offensive line, nothing more. LT would run for 40 TDs behind that line.....No, really.

 

[TitusIII]

The Alexander of 2000-2005 had the best run blocking line, aside from Priest's Chiefs, in the NFL. Great player, but not an elite talent at the position.

 

[RBM]

the guy doesnt impress meis he really that good.he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

Check out the #s this guy has put up in the last 5 years and then try to get this thread deleted man

 

[MLBrandow]

you guys might want to chase down the guy who did the corey dillon 10,000 yard thread in a hurry!he called him "cory"now back to shaun runnin like a little #####......dammit run over someone shaun

You shouldn't be allowed to post here.I understand that not everyone is fluent in english. We call these people immigrants.But you have the responsibility to learn how to effectively communicate in your native tongue.How do you expect to ever contribute anything to the shark pool, much less society, when you can't even codify a coherent thought?

 

[flapgreen]

something tells me that his thread isn't going to go anywhere

Very observant of you.

 

[aposulli]

something tells me that his thread isn't going to go anywhere

Very observant of you.

Is it just me or are alot of people taking digs at other people more frequently tonight.Maybe it's like this every Sunday night, or maybe some ppl were eliminated from their fantasy playoffs.

 

[billymays]

you guys might want to chase down the guy who did the corey dillon 10,000 yard thread in a hurry!he called him "cory"now back to shaun runnin like a little #####......dammit run over someone shaun

You shouldn't be allowed to post here.I understand that not everyone is fluent in english. We call these people immigrants.But you have the responsibility to learn how to effectively communicate in your native tongue.How do you expect to ever contribute anything to the shark pool, much less society, when you can't even codify a coherent thought?

im not fruent in english did u just say codify

 

[Your Mom]

Why I bother coming to this board anymore for some decent conversation is beyond me.

 

[mlball77]

Being a SA owner in a keeper league, I think he is a bit overhyped. As stated by other posters, his o-line was phenomenal for several years and he greatly benefitted from that. SA is a good RB, but his line took him to the next level. It seems that with the line not as strong as it was and SA being dinged up a bit and getting a bit older, he cannot be relied upon to produce quite like he has for the last 3-4 years (but thats a tall order for anyone).

 

[valhallan]

Shift called, he feels neglected.

 

[broncofan13000]

the guy doesnt impress meis he really that good.he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

You should be impressed, he is an elite RB. He looks like he's dragging around weights for his first few steps because he doesn't always hit the hole at full speed; he is using his vision to make sure he hits the right holes, to break big gains.

 

[MarcO]

the guy doesnt impress meis he really that good.he looks like he is dragging around weights for his first ten steps i dunno, anyone else think he might be a little overhyped?

You should be impressed, he is an elite RB. He looks like he's dragging around weights for his first few steps because he doesn't always hit the hole at full speed; he is using his vision to make sure he hits the right holes, to break big gains.

Suprisingly, a lot of fans in the Seattle area don't like the guy either. For years they have said he is soft, that he is a product of the O-line, that he spends too much time dancing around behind the line. many were calling for not resigning him and seeing what Mo Morris could do and one former teammate (chad Eaton) called him out last year after the Washington playoff game. This after a season of breaking the TD record and gaining 1800 yards. Unless you WATCH (not just follow his stat lines) his games on a regular basis it is hard to really appreciate his running style. He does hesitate behind the line longer than some more explosive backs but it IS because he is being patient waiting for the holes to develop. His running style could be described as disciplined more than anything else - He squares his shoulders to the line, uses his great vision and waits for a hole to open up. He doesn't have jump-cut, stop on a dimes moves but he is smooth, has good footwork, and he is deceptively fast - I have NEVER seen him caught from behind in a foot race. He gets in trouble when holes do not open up and he starts trying to make something happen on his own. it's tough to compare him to anyone And regarding his pass catching - 2001 - 2003 he averaged 50 catches a year. He is a good receiver, they just don't ask him to do it anymore, for whatever reason.I would not put him in the category of LT2 and LJ as far as a pure runner who can make something out of nothing and go the distance on any given play. But he still qualifies as an elite back.