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Sherman is a tool (1 Viewer)
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Ring
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Richie Rich and his Super Bowl diamonds.
False Start
Footballguy
...and an injured carted off player who had to finish the Super Bowl on crutches. While I don't wish injury and hope he will be OK, you could see an injury for him coming down Broadway.
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Neofight
Footballguy
I was pretty clear in stating that it was his 4th quarter performance that was wretched.
Chaka
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Think he gave up 1 catch for 5 yards. Insane
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
How can you hate Sherman after reading this
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/richard-sherman-seahawks-peyton-manning-audibles-hand-signals/218703
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/richard-sherman-seahawks-peyton-manning-audibles-hand-signals/218703
False Start
Footballguy
No one is denying he is a good or even great corner. Some just think he is a tool for how he acted after the NFC championship.
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General Tso
Guest
Makes me hate the guy a little more. "We're not just all pro. We're all pro minds".All pro ##### is more like it.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Im sure when he looks at the huge ### ring on his finger he will care that some think he is a tool. Championship.False Start said:
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General Tso
Guest
Stay classy Seattle.
False Start
Footballguy
Easy to see you are from Seattle, you are not used to winning titles. So I understand why you are acting like you do not know how to be a fan of a championship team.
Pipes
Footballguy
How's he supposed to act? If someones taking shots at his favorite team who just won the Super Bowl why wouldn't he say scoreboard, championship or look at the ring? Nothing wrong with that. Are people that sensitive where they getting offended by bragging now? And please spare us from the "win with class" stuff. That's alot of the fun about being a fan is bragging when you win and having your friends give you grief when your team loses.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sure...though, he has been bragging about it long before it happened.
That said, he also has not been nearly as obnoxious as I thought he would be after.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Well, it's the middle of the week, and not all 13-year olds have access to the internet during school hours.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
As the lifelong fan of a team that has won 13 championships, this doesn't bother me at all. It's actually kind of cute. It's like watching your kid see snow for the 1st time. Or watching him ride a bike for the 1st time. He's enjoying it, all big-eyed and mouth open. Cute, but it's old hat for us.
He should enjoy his one ring.
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biju
Footballguy
Man, it didn't take long for the "come back when you win a championship" crowd to become the "come back when you have as many rings as us" crowd. You are so pathetic it is pretty awesome. I'm sure you'll have a very witty response to this. Just for the record, whatever you're about to say is really going to get me in your mind.MaxThreshold said:
Congrats for your future internet message board victory and the Championships you had before you were born. Side note, if you ever run into an English chap make sure to rub it in his face because *you* won America, and flip off the next fish you see because one of your ancestors figured out how to walk out of the water.
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Paulymaggs
Footballguy
Relax man, it's already pathetic enough that they live in Wisconsin. If they didn't have their tens of world championships, they'd have nothing at all.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
What are you talking about? I was siding with ITS on this one. He should be able to brag about his one ring. It's the very first one that they won. Be loud and proud and don't let anyone take that one away from you. You guys earned that one, fair and square.
No one is taking that away from you.
And I have no idea what you're talking about in your last paragraph. Sounds like your a bitter one.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Premier
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I have always thought it to be a very unique phenomenon where people strut like peacocks because "their city" has more championships in the last 60 years than other people.
A couple things. One, you didn't, don't, and won't play for the team. And secondly, you are not extra special because you happened to have come out of a p###y in a city that won some rings in the particular sport you like.
Seattle fans, talk some smack, gloat, have some fun. Your team was amazing and won maybe the most lopsided super bowl ever as underdogs.
Don't let someone piddle in your cheerios because their team won some rings before you were born.
A couple things. One, you didn't, don't, and won't play for the team. And secondly, you are not extra special because you happened to have come out of a p###y in a city that won some rings in the particular sport you like.
Seattle fans, talk some smack, gloat, have some fun. Your team was amazing and won maybe the most lopsided super bowl ever as underdogs.
Don't let someone piddle in your cheerios because their team won some rings before you were born.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Anywhere, doesn't even matter. I am a clevelander, but do you think I am going to sound off on seahawk fans because my team won some championships in the 60s when my dad was a grade schooler??Premier said:^^
Especially in regards to people bragging about being from Green Bay or Wisconsin. That place is like Indiana, only with more mayonnaise.
Haha seahawks fans, you have one ring, but my Cleveland team has multiple NFL champions back in the day when rotary phones were new, and smoking was healthy for you. Take that. I win. Yay me, yay me.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Hines Ward last night had some interesting comments on Richard Sherman. Hard to argue with Seattle's success shutting down Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers in the last two meaningful games. But the part I find interesting is the gameplan of putting your worst receiver on Sherman. Sorta the opposite of how teams approach "Revis Island". Is this a trend to worry about worrying about the #3 WR going against Seattle's defense?
3quinox
Footballguy
I don't always agree with the way Sherman goes about running his mouth but I kind of disagree with Ward. I also don't think Sherman is the best BUT I don't think you need to cover the best to prove that. Making a hall of fame quarterback cut his field of vision in half speaks volumes too.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Sherman is great, but he doesn't follow the best WR over the field to cover him like the absolutely best corners do, so it's hard to call him the best. Granted, Seattle's D is so great that he doesn't have to, but Revis, Patterson, and Haden would likely be just as good doing the same thing.
Oh, and saying any corner cuts off "half the field" is not only stupid, but factually incorrect.
Oh, and saying any corner cuts off "half the field" is not only stupid, but factually incorrect.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It's hard to call ANY of them the best because there are a million variables, most of which none of us are remotely "in the know" to be able to decipher.
However, if the gameplan calls for Sherman to cover one side, and he does it in 1st ballot hall of fame fashion.......................eh whatever, it's a totally fruitless argument. He is awesome, simple as that.
Unfortunately I didnt get to see any of the game thursday, but if Green Bay truly did alter their normal gameplan the way everyone is saying, that's just terrible coaching. ANY DB in history can be beaten with a good route and a good throw, especially with the holding rules nowadays. I definitely agree it would be playing into Seattle's hands if you limit your options like that. Instead of doing what you do best, you are reacting, rather than making them react. Not good.
Hooper31
Footballguy
I think comparing players subjectively like this is sort of silly, but I'll jump in for the fun of it.
The "only plays one side" argument is weak IMO. Mel Blount is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game. Certainly the best of his era. He lined up on the right side his entire career. I can't remember even once seeing him follow a WR all game long. Further, this idea that the best do this all the time is just a false argument. It doesn't happen that much. Joe Haden lines up to the defensive left just like Sherman every down.
The one time that Sherman was ALLOWED to follow a WR all game long he completely shut down Anquan Boldin in their first meeting of 2013. It was embarrassing. Boldin logged 1 catch for 7 yards. Sherman was allowed to do this for this single game because Crabtree didn't play. Complete lock down.
Bottom line. TDs given up versus INTs. Its a landslide. Nobody is else is even in the ballpark. Hell, you don't like those stats? Go wtih QB rating when they throw his way. That's even more of a landslide. On top of the 8 INTs he posted last year there were 3 more balls that he tipped to another defender for an INT.
I get it. Sherman has meticulously turned his mouth into celebrity and endorsements. That pisses people off. Justifiably so IMO. That said, there's not really a debate that he's on top right now when it comes to play on the field. A future hall of famer either choose or wasn't allowed to throw even a single pass his way this past weekend. That's just sick.
The "only plays one side" argument is weak IMO. Mel Blount is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game. Certainly the best of his era. He lined up on the right side his entire career. I can't remember even once seeing him follow a WR all game long. Further, this idea that the best do this all the time is just a false argument. It doesn't happen that much. Joe Haden lines up to the defensive left just like Sherman every down.
The one time that Sherman was ALLOWED to follow a WR all game long he completely shut down Anquan Boldin in their first meeting of 2013. It was embarrassing. Boldin logged 1 catch for 7 yards. Sherman was allowed to do this for this single game because Crabtree didn't play. Complete lock down.
Bottom line. TDs given up versus INTs. Its a landslide. Nobody is else is even in the ballpark. Hell, you don't like those stats? Go wtih QB rating when they throw his way. That's even more of a landslide. On top of the 8 INTs he posted last year there were 3 more balls that he tipped to another defender for an INT.
I get it. Sherman has meticulously turned his mouth into celebrity and endorsements. That pisses people off. Justifiably so IMO. That said, there's not really a debate that he's on top right now when it comes to play on the field. A future hall of famer either choose or wasn't allowed to throw even a single pass his way this past weekend. That's just sick.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. The Broncos did the same thing in the Super Bowl, putting Decker over with Sherman the whole game and avoiding going that way, but the problem there is that the rest of the secondary is able to focus on the better WRs, and it makes it that much harder to make plays against them. If you have a deep receiving corps like Denver or GB, put your best WR on Sherman and make them give him help on occasion, which will then open things up a little more for the others. Granted, Seattle's D is so good that is still might not work that well, but given what a disaster it was for the Broncos and Packers in the last two NFL games that mattered, teams everywhere should be throwing the idea of putting a secondary receiver with Sherman the whole game in the trash.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
GBs offense looked so inept and limited using one side of the field and that tactic was a complete failure. At times they need to attack Sherman and make him work hard and try to open up stuff underneath. GB made it easy for Seattle.
Here's what I don't get: GB looked at the Super Bowl tape and their big takeaway was that they should copy Denver's game plan? Um, did they watch enough tape to check out the final score? 
Given that the last two teams to try this tactic with Sherman have lost by a combined score of 79-24, maybe Seattle's opponents should go elsewhere for inspiration.
Given that the last two teams to try this tactic with Sherman have lost by a combined score of 79-24, maybe Seattle's opponents should go elsewhere for inspiration.
I will just say, it is easier to play corner if the QB is being harassed each play. Not Sherman's fault that he is one of the players on the best defense in the game but to say he is the cream of the crop is a stretch. Carroll was a very successful DC in this league before and his failures on his coaching jobs has taught him a thing or two about how to lead a team. He said this time he was going to do it his way and I think that Defense has his influence all over it.
