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Sherman cares about his "branding" quite a bit.
Couldn't tell you. I didn't watch any of that game.
Gotta use dynamite in certain threads or they don't bite.That's a weak attempt. You're way better than that. Or maybe not. I've seen you post much worse.Raider Nation said:
I only saw him on the one play where he gave up the TD to the TE matched up one on one at the goal line. No clue other than that.
I saw the highlights. The TE wasn't his guy. He did get beat by Randle on the sideline for a TD, though. It was actually perfect coverage and just a remarkable catch by Randle. Not sure other than that.
Not a very nice guy
Can't fault you for this one. He does have a tendency to make me cringe at times.
I suspect most won't agree, but I loved Deion. He let you know in a harmless way that he'd shut you down, and then he shut you down.
Junior and Polamalu come to mind as well.
Just tonight that rookie CB on CHI, Fuller, seemed pretty humble during the post game interview. Didn't seem hyped up or anything and was easily the most impactful defensive player on the field for CHI with his first two career interceptions.
Sure, there were a ton of great defensive players who conducted themselves with class on the field. Bruce Smith, Darrell Green, Bob Lilly, Andre Tippett, Merlin Olsen, Derrick Brooks, Harry Carson, Howie Long, Mike Singletary, Joe Greene.... I could name 50 more if I had to. It's just that the clowns like Sherman really stand out.
Ted Hendricks fits as a funny and likeable guy. Defenders who played with class include Mike Haynes, Willie Brown, Joe Klecko, Alan Page, Willie Davis, Sam Mills, Deron Cherry, and Aeneas Williams.
I'm not a huge Sapp fan, but I'm not sure i'd include him in the "tool" category, when he played. It seemed that he talked a lot, but it seemed out of genuine joy of playing, and never to really harm a player or personally attack them. More of just a "junk" talker.
Do you remember the Chad Clifton/Mike Sherman incident and the ejections and personal fouls during his Oakland days?I don't remember Gastineau or Sherman trying to injure people, yet I put them on the tool list.
For some reason I think I just watched an old NFL Films vid about Gastineau and about how he was pretty rough. I could be totally whiffing on that, though. I know Romo tried to hurt others. I guess it all is part of the "tool" catagory, as well as being an a** on and off the field.
Gosh, I wonder if he'll have something to say after their next win?Richard Sherman refuses to speak to media after being “exposed”Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2014, 8:52 PM EDT
Getty ImagesUnlike the Packers, the Chargers decided to throw at Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman. And it worked. And Sherman was in no mood to discuss it after San Diego’s 30-21 win over the defending NFL champions.
Via Michael Gehlken of U-T San Diego (and surely others), Sherman refused to talk to the media following the game.
Per Gehlken, multiple Chargers described Sherman with the same single word: “Exposed.” Eventually, the NFL may describe Sherman with another single word: “Fined.”
UPDATE 9:14 p.m. ET: Sherman didn’t speak to the media. But he did speak to the Twitter. “Lmao Exposed? …. Complete 3 passes 0 touchdowns 0 explosive passes…. These guys make me laugh,” Sherman said.
This may be what SD players are referring too. Sherman seems to struggle vs. smaller, quick and fast WRs. He wanted nothing to do with jamming Royal after getting turned like a top on a few of his attempts. Hilton fits that mold.
Please watch Sherman vs. Andre from last year. Andre had him on his butt on a couple routes. He was literally sitting on the ground.
Grabbed Cruz in the end zone drawing a PI as well. Not his best work.
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Deion was even more of a shameless self promoter; he was the first and (easily) best at it. I loathed him as a 9er yet couldn't help but admit how damn good he was. He also got into some heated scraps with Bad Moon back in the day. Those were fun.
You really can't do much better than catch 100% of the passes thrown at you when a particular guy covers you. Nor much worse than give up catches 100% of the time you're tested on a given day. You don't "know you're good" because people react this way when these games come -- you know you're an ### hole. Allen's game was excellent. Why?proninja said:
I thought Sea did create pressure on several occasions but Rivers just displayed why he is a near elite QB at times. He navigated the pocket beautifully and always seemed to move in the right direction to evade it. Great QBs will do that.Freelove said:You really can't do much better than catch 100% of the passes thrown at you when a particular guy covers you. Nor much worse than give up catches 100% of the time you're tested on a given day. You don't "know you're good" because people react this way when these games come -- you know you're an ### hole. Allen's game was excellent. Why?proninja said:
Because Sherman is a zone CB. When a group of WR's have their way with you early on to the tune of 100% completion percentage, you have to overcommit on your coverages or risk seeing it continue. If Sherman (and the DC) didn't choose to overcommit in that way, the WR's would have wound up with big statistical days. No reason to think they wouldn't have -- SEA didn't stop them all day. But when the D makes this choice, the zone opens up in other places, and other receivers can dominate the gaps created. We saw that happen over and over again yesterday.
Really, when a good QB and good WR's are playing like that, there's only one way to escape if you're intent on playing a cover 3. You have to get pressure on the QB. Seattle really missed a couple of last year's pass rushers yesterday.
Anyway, that's the nature of zone coverage: no real individual glory, no real escape from culpability. It's easy to point to the deficiencies, including Sherman's own, the safeties and backers in coverage, and the lack of pressure up front, that led to the field day the whole passing game had against them. The raft of TD's to Gates were as much Sherman's to own as anyone else's.
Lots of misunderstanding of the roles, responsibilities, and results of what happens in zone coverages in here. But hey, Sherman wouldn't have it any other way.
Sherm is the best.proninja said:
Maybe. But that's not what this thread is about.
He was on twitter last night. If a guy doesn't want to talk they don't have to talk. The fact that you would come to the conclusion you have says a lot about your hate and jealousy towards him. Don't test the best.
Twitter? Really? why not use Twitter after the Superbowl?
Not only did Rivers test him on Sunday, he warned him in advance that he'd be testing him. And because he tested him, and exposed him, the Chargers beat the Seahawks. So your last statement is, well, wrong.
He tested him 3 times and you are going to act like it was amazing. That in its own tells you all you need to know about the best.
Untrue. Sherman still runs it after a loss. But really, was there anything to talk about?
Wrong again Sherlock. Rivers threw at him 6 times. He completed 3 of them. He's not as good as you, or he, thinks.
Well Sherman is the best defensive back in the league and he's not facing charges like half your 49ers are. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
He's not the best DB on his team. So he doesn't have that going for him.
So let me ask you...does this remind you of anyone else here? Someone who shoots his mouth off constantly about how great his team is and then runs and hides like a coward when they lose? In reality, he's just mimicking his idol.
Unfortunately this doesn't narrow it down that much.
