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I'm intrigued.Maybe instead of suspending him they can make him wear rollerskates and no helmet. I would be good with that. Maybe oven mitts as well
I'm intrigued.Maybe instead of suspending him they can make him wear rollerskates and no helmet. I would be good with that. Maybe oven mitts as well
What can we do to help?I sure miss interacting in game threads. Now, there's no point. I looked at the SEA@PHI game thread a few times and just didn't bother. This thread is more of the same. It very well may be that the tone of the threads haven't changed, but I have.
LOL.. don't get you hopes up too high... I am a Gamecock too! LOLThanks. I glad there are some Philly fans that aren't trapped in glass cases of emotion. It gives me hope.
I was beginning to think an objective Philly fan was like a unicorn.I am a Philly boy from way back... And I don't think it was illegal (yes, he led with his crown), but so do 70% of tacklers. The problem is it hit the back of Wentz's helmet.
It was not dirty, it was not cheap. It was bang-bang and the redirection due to the first tackler resulted in the head hit. Fine - Sure. Suspension - not how I see it.
I'd like to hear more. Can I get you a cup of coffee?I sure miss interacting in game threads. Now, there's no point. I looked at the SEA@PHI game thread a few times and just didn't bother. This thread is more of the same. It very well may be that the tone of the threads haven't changed, but I have.
I can see your mind working. "Did Dw mean in line skates or old school ones? On the oven mitts did he have any ideas for the design, because I was thinking Betty and Veronica from the Archie's comics."I'm intrigued.
Exactly. In the game thread it wasn't even brought up when it happened (even though people were saying there was holding on every play ).Watched the game live at a brewery with a dozen other people intensely observing the game. During the live play, not one person noticed head to head contact, or had a clue that Wentz was hurt. Only on the slow motion replay, and mainly the second one, could you see the impact of Wentz's head going into the ground after helmet to helmet. It warranted a flag; but happened so fast the refs missed it. I've seen numerous other roughing plays that were more egregious missed. I could see a minor fine; nothing more than that.
Say something snarky and mock me a bit? TIA.What can we do to help?
Old school ones for sure, inline ones would just be absurd.I can see your mind working. "Did Dw mean in line skates or old school ones? On the oven mitts did he have any ideas for the design, because I was thinking Betty and Veronica from the Archie's comics."
Once was enough. I respect you far too much to carry it further.Say something snarky and mock me a bit? TIA.
I do think it's called differently for different players, but I really don't think there is any conspiracy to it.I'm not sure it's a 'list'. Like I don't think a ref is like "it's Tom Brady, give him that call" vs "Nah it's just Carson, let's not call it". I just think maybe the refs are watching the head of higher profile guys a little closer. Carson gets smoked in the head a lot without flags, it's weird.
Good point. It's not going to help Philly any now, just the Seahawks next opponent.As a Packer fan I say yes, suspend that darn dirty player and the rest of those dirty Seattle starters.
You're GD right we are. What a screw jobI don't think the Eagles are cared about as much nationally as you seem to think they are.
Anyway, carry on in your martyrdom. Seahawk fans are still #####ing about the Pittsburgh SB.
The penalty on Hasslebeck when he made a tackle after the pick was classically horrible. Think they called it a "low block"You're GD right we are. What a screw job
So are players on horse collar tackles and those are personal fouls for crying out loud!Please people, they were both running in the same direction fer cryin out loud.
So, that makes it OK to hit a QB in the back of his helmet with your helmet?Please people, they were both running in the same direction fer cryin out loud.
More or less essential for hitting a player in the back of his helmet.So, that makes it OK to hit a QB in the back of his helmet with your helmet?
Good pointMore or less essential for hitting a player in the back of his helmet.
Same here. It was a fast play and the ground magnified the force of the hit. It sucks that it knocked him out of the game.I didn't have any issue with this play. They were both running in the same direction and both dove to make a play at about the same time. It was unfortunate that it caused an injury but it was not dirty or malicious. It's part of a game where large men try and hit each other.
That was the most absurd bull#### I have ever seen called. Thought the Steeler guy was going to say "I'm good we don't need that penalty"The penalty on Hasslebeck when he made a tackle after the pick was classically horrible. Think they called it a "low block"
I've never been a "refs fixed the game" guy. Maybe I'm just naive. But when you see a penalty like that called, you start to question that maybe the fix is in. You have to be looking for something to throw a flag on when you make a call like that.That was the most absurd bull#### I have ever seen called. Thought the Steeler guy was going to say "I'm good we don't need that penalty"
You know why it's true. It's not some conspiracy against the Eagles or any one city. It's to protect the biggest names in the league. If Brady, or Rodgers or Wilson gets knocked out like that yesterday, at the minimum it's 15 yards automatic. This is evidenced by Wilson getting hit slightly after he let the ball go and even though the defender tried to hold him up, he still got the roughing call on a 3rd and goal.I'm curious why you think the bolded is true. Do you think games are rigged against Philly? That Goodell hates Wentz? Or that he's having a love affair with Clowney?
Based on what I read in many team threads here, pretty much everyone here thinks the NFL hates the team they root for.
Russell slid feet first twice against the 49ers last week and got drilled. No penalties. Its unfortunate for Wentz, but it wasn't dirty or intentional. Sorry Eagles fans. Better luck next time.You know why it's true. It's not some conspiracy against the Eagles or any one city. It's to protect the biggest names in the league. If Brady, or Rodgers or Wilson gets knocked out like that yesterday, at the minimum it's 15 yards automatic. This is evidenced by Wilson getting hit slightly after he let the ball go and even though the defender tried to hold him up, he still got the roughing call on a 3rd and goal.
Yet turn around again later and McCown gets shoved to the ground well after the ball is gone, no call. Because McCown is a nobody journeyman retiring again next year and Wilson is a Star. Can't touch the Star.
It was dirty and it most certainly was intentional. He went with the purpose of hurting him. Maybe not knocking him out but it was completely unnecessary.Russell slid feet first twice against the 49ers last week and got drilled. No penalties. Its unfortunate for Wentz, but it wasn't dirty or intentional. Sorry Eagles fans. Better luck next time.
He did not get "drilled" either time and was not hit in the head area either time. Not even close to the same thing.Russell slid feet first twice against the 49ers last week and got drilled.
model railroading it will calm you down and you can do whatever you want i mean bam you want a tressel bridge over a waterfall you can do it you want a sonoran desert seene you can do it it is relaxing and will let your creative side out so win win is what i say take that to the bank brochachoWhat can we do to help?I sure miss interacting in game threads. Now, there's no point. I looked at the SEA@PHI game thread a few times and just didn't bother. This thread is more of the same. It very well may be that the tone of the threads haven't changed, but I have.
Congrats on destructing a point I didn't make.Not even close to the same thing.
Well yeah, you really did make a weak attempt to compare the two. When you use the word "drilled", it implies a hard hit, which neither hit you refer to was and no penalty was warranted. It's in a thread talking about a cheap shot on Wentz. If it wasn't a comparison, why bring it up?Congrats on destructing a point I didn't make.
Check out the big brain on Brad!More or less essential for hitting a player in the back of his helmet.
Because I was responding to an exaggerated narrative which is clearly debunked by rudimentary observations like the two I brought up. If you need a better "comparison" see the link below.If it wasn't a comparison, why bring it up?
Here's the cheapest shot on Wilson: Clay MatthewsBecause I was responding to an exaggerated narrative which is clearly debunked by rudimentary observations like the two I brought up. If you need a better "comparison" see the link below.
https://twitter.com/CDonnick3/status/1173320661500121090
Dupree was neither flagged or suspended for that hit.
Seriously? You debunked nothing and the narrative wasn't exaggerated. You tried to make a case for no penalty there comparing Wilson not drawing a flag when he got "drilled" twice in the same game to Wentz getting a cheap shot in the back of the head while going to the ground. Except Wilson didn't get "drilled" or even hit hard. He was basically shoved while on the ground.Because I was responding to an exaggerated narrative which is clearly debunked by rudimentary observations like the two I brought up. If you need a better "comparison" see the link below.
https://twitter.com/CDonnick3/status/1173320661500121090
Dupree was neither flagged or suspended for that hit.
Yes, that was brutal. Still wonder about the concussion protocol on that one.Here's the cheapest shot on Wilson: Clay Matthews
Thought Wilson was done, maybe tore up his knee as well. Instead they came back 16 down to go to the Superbowl.
Russ has special water. He's all good.Yes, that was brutal. Still wonder about the concussion protocol on that one.
Ha. The miracle water. Russ seems like a great guy but he invokes his fair share of eye rolling moments.Russ has special water. He's all good.
One of the great parts of that cheap as hell hit was they caught Wilson talking about it on sideline mic. He said something like "He thought he got me but I'm good".
Extremely misleading pictures. You don't have a shot of Wentz with his knee off the ground reaching forward and Clowney already lunging.It was dirty and it most certainly was intentional. He went with the purpose of hurting him. Maybe not knocking him out but it was completely unnecessary.
Wentz is wrapped and going to the ground. Clowney has not engaged yet.
Wentz is down and Clowney launches helmet first into the back of his head.
This is not some bang bang guess work play. He saw him going down and wanted to get another shot on him. Should have been 15 at least. If this is the regular season, he sits next week. As is, probably just a fine.
He was wrapped and going to the ground. Clowney was 2 yards away from him. He dove in to get an intentional shot on the QB.Extremely misleading pictures. You don't have a shot of Wentz with his knee off the ground reaching forward and Clowney already lunging.
https://twitter.com/247KevinBoilard/status/1213947168970694661?s=20
I love armchair QBs who think it is possible to contort your body mid air while trying to make a tackle.
I think you mean eye opening. WHAT AN AMAZING PLAY! besides the superbowl pickHa. The miracle water. Russ seems like a great guy but he invokes his fair share of eye rolling moments.
He wasn't diving headfirst. This goes back to no one saw the play live. He was trying to set up a screen. It was busted. He moved forward in the pocket to gain back any yards he could. Got his ankles wrapped and went down like a tree to the ground. He wasn't diving. It was a sack. How is he supposed to protect himself on a sack.No.
It sucks that he got knocked out of the game, but the hit didn't look malicious or intentional.
And Wentz has to be smarter than that and not expose himself. Learn to slide. You'd never see Brady, Brees, Wilson or M. Ryan dive headfirst and expose themselves to taking that kind of hit.
Thanks,,,def a cheap shot. It appears to me he intentionally hit Wentz in head.Extremely misleading pictures. You don't have a shot of Wentz with his knee off the ground reaching forward and Clowney already lunging.
https://twitter.com/247KevinBoilard/status/1213947168970694661?s=20
I love armchair QBs who think it is possible to contort your body mid air while trying to make a tackle.
We are watching two different clips apparently.He was wrapped and going to the ground. Clowney was 2 yards away from him. He dove in to get an intentional shot on the QB.
You apparently are watching some imaginary play because the clip you show clearly has Wentz being tackled, going to the ground and then Clowney diving in helmet first for a dirty hit.We are watching two different clips apparently.
He was lunging forward as a runner at that point. Clowney had already committed to the hit, turned his shoulder to him. Wentz falling to the ground lead him into the path of Clowney's helmet. Not sure what Clowney could have done at that point. The whistle had not blown, play was not over.
Sucks that Wentz got hurt, but it was not malicious or intentional.
Clearly shows Wentz separating from the "tackle" and lunging forward. He is a runner at that point. Clowney was already committed to the tackle. What do you want Clowney to do, levitate in mid air while he lets Wentz complete his dive? Unrealistic expectation.You apparently are watching some imaginary play because the clip you show clearly has Wentz being tackled, going to the ground and then Clowney diving in helmet first for a dirty hit.