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How is Wentz getting away going to the ground after being tackled? He's going down. End of play. McDougal still touching him on the way down. Had Clowney come in and shoved him with his hands down, sure just a football play. He dove with the head to get an extra hit in. Dirty play.
Clearly going down and Clowney clearly goes helmet to helmet when it is totally unnecesary. Cheap, dirty intentional helmet to helmet hit.
How is he going to tackle him with his head while falling to the ground if Wentz is getting away? That would look foolish.
His shoulder clearly hits first: https://youtu.be/KcXPqFlJ_OU
He leaves his feet when Wentz knee is inches from ground...cheap, dirty intentional hit to harm. Old school football. Dirty player doing what he does. Worked well for Seattle. The probably lose this week with or without Clowney. Assuming no suspension.
I've seen many people try to tackle runners with their shoulders and heads and miss completely or have a guy bounce off. Clowney knows how to wrap a QB up if he were afraid of him getting away. He led with the helmet to get a shot on him.
Going to agree to disagee, wasn't watching actively while happened and no dog in fight. Only using two clips you posted. Generally prefer Sea over Phi just sad had to watch McCown once again, feel he did admirably but he is no Wentz to say the least
That's one way to look at it. He definitely was trying to hit him, no different than any defensive player would try to hit a QB in that situation.
Because it was right out of break after the blocked FG. They were showing replays of that. You barely even saw the hit.
Yep. Take your shot, helmet first. Hope the refs don't call it to soften up the other teams QB. Been in football forever. Now however it's a penalty. And it wasn't called.
Apparently you think saying this over and over makes your delusional take true. It was an egregious, intentionally dirty hit. Clown tilts his down down to strike Wentz in the back of the head. Should have been ejected immediately. Looking forward to karma handling it from here. Feel bad for Wentz. He's a great kid/QB. Too bad he was taken out by such a cowardly act.
It wasn't helmet first: https://youtu.be/KcXPqFlJ_OU he led with his shoulder. It wasn't a penalty under any rule in the NFL. If Wentz was a RB, no one would have said a word.
You can clearly see his shoulder hit Wentz first. I keep repeating it because people keep missing it.
Uproar is cheap shots suck. Certain players get protected, for me Rogers is the poster child for this. Others seem to get much less protection. After watching 2 clips it appears obvious to me Clowney took a cheap dirty shot to Wentz head and took him out of game. No dog in fight other than not seeing a call on that play is silly after seeing so many phantom roughing the passer calls previously. The NFL is getting hard to watch with it's bizarre officiating and the skewed results they cause. and I much prefer Seattle to Philly. At least I used to.
He ducked his head down and drove it at Carson. Just stop.
He actually clearly dips his shoulder down to initiate contact, helmets hitting was incidental. NFL saw it the same way both on the field and in review.
The only thing that is clear is that you're being intentionally obtuse. Expect nothing less though from squawkers of your ilk.
Good god. Talk about delusional homer takes. What next? Gonna add to the “Clowney is a victim” narrative that he started.
The alternate takes are so reactionary, it is hard to take honestly. We have clear video evidence of exactly what happened, and still people insist it was blatant, cheap, disgusting, etc etc. Under no rule is that play a penalty, clear cut. If it was a RB or WRs no one would have cared. We see hits 10x worse in games all the time.
Lol.
I have seen so many runs where the RB lowers his head to show the crown of his helmet to finish off a run and thought, "Sheesh, if a defensive player did that..."
Reactionary stating it was a cheap shot? Hardly.
Its really the best thing going on in this thread and the obvious choice above all others.
If Wentz didn’t get hurt, no one would even remember this play and no one would be discussing it. Similarly, if we didn’t have slow motion, it would look like most other tackles where someone finishes off a tackle before the whistle and they move on to the next play. Yeah, it’s unfortunate Wentz got hurt. But people are trying to reverse engineer the process based on the outcome to categorize and justify it being a dirty hit.
Posted elsewhere that I noticed it live.. Unnecessary and, in my book, dirty. So, when an injury results, people should discuss it. The injury took away a lot of potential drama from that game and ended a team's season.
People are saying he lead with his helmet, some of them even saying he lead with the crown of his helmet. Neither of those are true. Also, Wentz wasn't on the ground when he initiated the tackle.
You ought to check out his work in the 49ers team thread. Surprised he hasn't been banned by now.
it's always been the state of the nfl
What, you mean you don’t enjoy every post about how the Eagles are held, pushed, interfered with, or basically hated by every ref, Goodell, Jerry Jones, God, etc?
Exactly, but they need the excuse so let them cry about it. Jeez, Wentz was a runner at that point. If it was the fullback with the ball, nobody would be crying.
If it was the fullback with the ball it would have still been a cheap and dirty hit. Maybe nobody would have cared, but it doesn't change the fact it was a cheap shot
Obviously a Bill Burr reference, I'd link the 4:00 monologue but just too many dirty words.
