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Should the Rams draft Jimmy Clausen? (1 Viewer)

Should the Rams draft Jimmy Clausen?

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MaddHatter

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Why the Rams Need Jimmy Clausen

St. Louis isn’t built to win tomorrow. By drafting Clausen, they still won’t be built to win tomorrow. But if they continue to add pieces defensively and offensively around Clausen, while creating a stable climate for those young players to play in, the Rams would be fortifying their position as someone to beat in the NFC down the road.
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So many needs. I think they are in a classic 'draft the best player possible' mode - who would be one of the DTs - or better yet, trade down and get another early rounder. Clausen is no sure thing. Betting teh future on a young QB and far from certain QB, at this point ... sets us back a couple more years if he isn't a savior - and I don't think he probably is. If Claussen is still there are 2.1, then I'll change my vote and take the chance.

 
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly.

Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too.

If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.

 
Voted "no" for lack of a "hell no" choice. I'd rather see them try to find a QB in free agency or, if they're really set on a QB with the #1 overall pick, take Bradford instead.

Suh, Long and Carriker could make for a very promising defensive line, though.

 
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Should have just made it "Should the Rams draft a QB with their 1st round pick?" and the answer would be the same.

 
NO.

highly drafted QBs require so much money and bust so often that the risk is simply too great, nevermind that no QB in this class is good enough to go #1.

Trade down would be ideal, but that never seems to happen.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly. Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too. If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.
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I agree with most of this - could go back and forth about Vick - but take Suh and forget about it. If they can put together a half-decent defense, then that would go a good way towards making them competitive.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly. Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too. If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.
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ThisSUH is a safe pick, and this organization needs safe, solid choices to start building.Even as an ND fan, I can't say the same about Claussenheck, they could get lucky with a Pike/Lafevour in the early 3rd perhaps, but that's the direction I'd rather take....
 
They should draft whoever they feel is the best player on the board. A team like the Rams doesn't have the luxury of drafting for need, or at least shouldn't. Take the player their GM and scouting department feels is the best on the board. While I'm quite high on Clausen, I doubt he'll rate as the top player on their board. Suh or McCoy would probably fit that bill more.

 
Hard to place a vote.

I would vote no if it's the 1.01 pick. I would vote yes if it's the 2.01 pick (or a trade up into the mid to late first if he's still there). However, the poll is an all or nothing selection.

 
duece2626 said:
They should draft Lefevour in round 2 or 3 if they want a QB in the draft.
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Personally, that is how I see them playing this. The Rams will draft Suh, and then with the 2.01 pick go with the top available QB, which really I think will be the second or third best QB, which is still not bad. And it will work out even nicer for them, as they won't have to pay that QB nearly as much as they would have if they drafted him at 1.01.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly.

Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too.

If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.
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:confused: Smart? Marshall Faulk? Are we talking the same person?

From The Princess Bride: "I don't think that word means what you think it means."

 
Hopefully yes.......that way Tampa has a 50% chance to get Suh...........otherwise Berry will fit well.

 
Spike said:
Ministry of Pain said:
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly.

Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too.

If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.
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:kicksrock: Smart? Marshall Faulk? Are we talking the same person?

From The Princess Bride: "I don't think that word means what you think it means."
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Faulk is very, very football smart. I don't know what position would best take advantage of his intelligence, but he could be a great coach.edit to add that I always wanted him as RB coach for the Saints to work with Bush(could help with PT as well).

 
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Last season I was very strongly against the Lions taking Stafford #1. I thought they needed to build the team up first and then worry about getting a QB. In hindsight, I think I may have been wrong on that. Stafford looks like a winner and QBs in general need more time to develop so it helps to get that piece in place first and build around it. That is assuming you get the right pieces around the QB, but it has worked in the past. Now having said that, in last years draft there was no elite player like Suh to to really consider instead of Stafford. So while I think taking a QB before everything else can be a good strategy, I think this is one of those years where you take BPA, just because Suh is so much better than everyone else in this class.

 
I'll say that I would draft the QB of the future were I in the Rams position. For every highly ranked QB that busts, I can point to just as many examples at every other position. I'm not saying that QB is Clausen, but they have a few good ones to choose from.

 
Sure they can draft him if they trade down or make a deal to trade their 2011 1st rounder so they have another 1st round pick, but if you mean FIRST OVERALL, then the answer is NO WAY.

 
Abraham said:
Suh or Berry would be my choice, with a FA option at QB a la Jason Campbell, VIck, etc.
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If they took Berry over Suh, the entire front office should be fired. Berry's a terrific player and a top-5 talent for sure, but he plays at a position of less importance (vis-a-vis the draft) and Suh is a once-in-a-generation talent. If Berry gets drafted #1 overall, he's making more money than Reed and Polamalu from D1. That's insane - no one is going to draft a safety first.
 
The Rams have already drafted defensive linemen with 2 of their last 3 first round picks and still have a mediocre front. If they take Suh, that will be three of the last four years, with two of them being in the top 3 (the other in the top 15). That is a LOT of money tied up into what will likely still just be an OK line.

 
MrTwo94 said:
Deranged Hermit said:
I'll say that I would draft the QB of the future were I in the Rams position. For every highly ranked QB that busts, I can point to just as many examples at every other position. I'm not saying that QB is Clausen, but they have a few good ones to choose from.
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Yes, but if a guy is not great at one position sometimes you can find a home for him somewhere else. Gallery was a sucky OT but is a pretty good guard. Leonard was drafted as a OT and made the pro bowl as a guard. Reggie Bush isn't the running back they thought he'd be, but he'd be a great slot WR. Some guys are relegated to special teams. But if a QB doesn't work then you are stuck w/that hefty salary and you get nothing. The worst part is that the salary is huge but the learning curve is slow for that position. I hate the idea of drafting a QB early.
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There's a reason QB's go so high, if you hit on one, your team is set for 6-7 years. Yeah, the risk is high, for every Manning, you get Leaf. For every Couch you get a McNabb. For every Alex Smith you get an Aaron Rodgers. The Chargers, Browns and Niners were sure pissed at the return they got, but the Colts, Eagles and Pack were (or are) set at the QB position for a looonnnnngg time.Plus, how often do stud QBs hit the FA market?
 
FreeBaGeL said:
The Rams have already drafted defensive linemen with 2 of their last 3 first round picks and still have a mediocre front. If they take Suh, that will be three of the last four years, with two of them being in the top 3 (the other in the top 15). That is a LOT of money tied up into what will likely still just be an OK line.
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I think their line will be elite with Suh. He's the best collegiate DT I've seen....... maybe ever.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
They need to trade a 3rd/4th to Philly and get Vick. This will alleviate them form having to grab a QB witht he 1st pick. Instead they can get a franchise defensive player in Suh to go with Long from a year or two ago, those two should make instant TNT along that DL. Vick, young WRs with some talent, SJax, those guys can compete quickly. Also Vick will help hide a somewhat mediocre OL, he runs around a lot and can avoid a lot of sacks although he also creates them too. If I was the St Louis GM this would be my #1 priority. Pry a QB form Philly...plus Philly will deal to St Louis because they stink so bad. The next thing I would do is hire Marshall Faulk for my front office. He might not know what to do immediately but he is smart. It shows on the NFL network. I would look to him and try and a groom a new Ozzie newsome type, former player that could eventually run your entire organization. People like Faulk, players would want to come to St Louis.
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Why not trade for Sage Rosenfels? I have to believe he'd be cheap and would get you through a couple of seasons, giving them a while to find their QB of the future. Obviously it would depend on whether Favre comes back for the Vikings, but it seemed like Sage was QB3 for them anyway.
 
NFL GM's talk themselves into this every year, and the fans usually get behind it. QB's are hard to find, and a smart GM will take a franchise QB over a franchise DT. With that being said, when the GM takes a questionable QB, at best, like Claussen over a bonafide franchise defensive player who will anchor eleite defenses some day, he should be fired..on the spot. Time will tell, of course, but I'd wager all of my pretty pennies that Suh has a better career than any of the bumbling QB's in this draft class.

 
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