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Sidney Rice dynasty trades (1 Viewer)
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Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
That's a very fair offer in my eyes considering you have no idea how he will bounce back from a pretty serious injury.I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...I thought it was close enough to at least continue the conversation.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
you should be brought up on charges for that..you would have intentionally hurt yourself with that trade..are youI offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...I thought it was close enough to at least continue the conversation.
?in Dynasy leagues, Rice has little value because this is,without a doubt, Favres last hurrah..Rice won't play but a handful of games this season..so you're looking at Tarvaris Jackson in '11? eeesh...
Rice had more value in week 1 than he does now, because Favre has been looking dreadful thus far this season, something which isn't going to go away just because Rice is back in action - Favre is officially shot as a star QB in the NFL..he's lost his fastball, so to speak.
in other words, be very happy your trade offer was declined.Steve Smith is a gold mine and Addai has a lot of value..
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I disagree. He's 24 with lots of ability. 84-1312-8 with Favre, yes, but I'm not seeing Berrian on pace for that this year. Don't be too quick to give Favre all the credit. "Very little value"? We shall see.And there's certainly no guarantee TJax will be the QB next year. Childress may like him as a #2 but he'll likely bring in another QB once Favre leaves. Also, Childress himself may be gone after this year if MIN doesn't meet expectations.Tanner9919 said:
DevilDog919
Footballguy
Traded Steve Smith (CAR) for Sidney Rice just yesterday. Smith was my WR4 and depth, so I can afford to wait on Rice.
As for the above that said he will be playing with Tarvaris next season, Rice is an UFA after this year. And the Vikes may make a move for another QB IF he does resign. Lets not look too far into the future, because it is very unknown since he isn't even locked into being a Viking next year.
As for the above that said he will be playing with Tarvaris next season, Rice is an UFA after this year. And the Vikes may make a move for another QB IF he does resign. Lets not look too far into the future, because it is very unknown since he isn't even locked into being a Viking next year.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Great example of buy low on Rice. These are the kind of trades that create good teams.suspected said:
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Yeah, if that guy laughed at you then you shouldn't bother trading with him ever again. I would've jumped at those two players for Rice.Steve Smith is arguably worth the same as Rice anyway by himself (even if Rice weren't injured).Louisville Slugger said:That's a very fair offer in my eyes considering you have no idea how he will bounce back from a pretty serious injury.Max Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...I thought it was close enough to at least continue the conversation.
Cassius
Footballguy
Good luck getting that kind of price from 99% of Rice dynasty owners. That's absurd.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Little value? Huh. 1. Talent in dystasty leagues, not situation.Tanner9919 said:you should be brought up on charges for that..you would have intentionally hurt yourself with that trade..are you :X ?in Dynasy leagues, Rice has little value because this is,without a doubt, Favres last hurrah..Max Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...I thought it was close enough to at least continue the conversation.
Rice won't play but a handful of games this season..so you're looking at Tarvaris Jackson in '11? eeesh...
Rice had more value in week 1 than he does now, because Favre has been looking dreadful thus far this season, something which isn't going to go away just because Rice is back in action - Favre is officially shot as a star QB in the NFL..he's lost his fastball, so to speak.
in other words, be very happy your trade offer was declined.Steve Smith is a gold mine and Addai has a lot of value..
2. He is a FA.
3. It is FAR from a sure thing that Tavaris ever plays another snap for the Vikes.
4. Rice's talents do not rely on an accurate QB.
5. He is 24 years old.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Who could or would ever make that argument? Nobody I know. Sidney is cleary the more talented player, capable of being a #1 WR, long term, in the NFL. Smith is not.Yeah, if that guy laughed at you then you shouldn't bother trading with him ever again. I would've jumped at those two players for Rice.Steve Smith is arguably worth the same as Rice anyway by himself (even if Rice weren't injured).Louisville Slugger said:That's a very fair offer in my eyes considering you have no idea how he will bounce back from a pretty serious injury.Max Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
True. As a Rice owner I would have laughed at that. I will rephrase my original statement: Those are the kind of trades that create poor teams.
dagwood
Footballguy
I am seeing a great disparity in value because he is still not on the field practicing yet. Those who want to acquire him are really discounting his value because we don't know what we will see in Week 8-10. Those who own him think he will pick where he left off last year starting in week 8.NorrisB said:
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
Thats a valid redraft comment, but not a dynasty one. Its only 3 weeks in and its looking like Rice made Favre last year, not vice versa.Back to the OP, Im a Rice owner and have received some lowball offers for him and rejected them pretty quickly:Tanner9919 said:you should be brought up on charges for that..you would have intentionally hurt yourself with that trade..are youMax Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
Rice won't play but a handful of games this season..so you're looking at Tarvaris Jackson in '11? eeesh...
Rice had more value in week 1 than he does now, because Favre has been looking dreadful thus far this season, something which isn't going to go away just because Rice is back in action - Favre is officially shot as a star QB in the NFL..he's lost his fastball, so to speak.
in other words, be very happy your trade offer was declined.Steve Smith is a gold mine and Addai has a lot of value..
- Mario Manningham and 2011 2nd rounder for Rice
- Cedric Benson, Devin Hester, 2011 2nd rounder, and 2011 3rd rounder for Rice and Jonathan Stewart
- LaDanian Tomlinson, Lee Evans, Chad Ochocinco, Owen Daniels, 2011 1st rounder, and 2 2011 3rd rounders for Rice, Roddy White, and Marshawn Lynch
- Devery Henderson and Dallas Clark for Rice and Dustin Keller
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dagwood
Footballguy
In a dynasty league, I would not have laughed but I probably would have passed. Both Addai and S.Smith are on the downside of their careers; Rice (if you assume he will come back from the injury) is definately on the upside.Yeah, if that guy laughed at you then you shouldn't bother trading with him ever again. I would've jumped at those two players for Rice.Steve Smith is arguably worth the same as Rice anyway by himself (even if Rice weren't injured).Louisville Slugger said:That's a very fair offer in my eyes considering you have no idea how he will bounce back from a pretty serious injury.Max Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
dagwood
Footballguy
Most Rice owners understand that his issues are more the defenses he has faced so far and less about poor performance.Some are panicing though. He is a definate buy low if you have the opportunity. Whereas MJD and SJax are runaway and don't try to acquire types.Thats a valid redraft comment, but not a dynasty one. Its only 3 weeks in and its looking like Rice made Favre last year, not vice versa.Back to the OP, Im a Rice owner and have received some lowball offers for him and rejected them pretty quickly:Tanner9919 said:you should be brought up on charges for that..you would have intentionally hurt yourself with that trade..are youMax Power said:I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
Rice won't play but a handful of games this season..so you're looking at Tarvaris Jackson in '11? eeesh...
Rice had more value in week 1 than he does now, because Favre has been looking dreadful thus far this season, something which isn't going to go away just because Rice is back in action - Favre is officially shot as a star QB in the NFL..he's lost his fastball, so to speak.
in other words, be very happy your trade offer was declined.Steve Smith is a gold mine and Addai has a lot of value..
- Mario Manningham and 2011 2nd rounder for Rice
- Cedric Benson, Devin Hester, 2011 2nd rounder, and 2011 3rd rounder for Rice and Jonathan Stewart
- LaDanian Tomlinson, Lee Evans, Chad Ochocinco, Owen Daniels, 2011 1st rounder, and 2 2011 3rd rounders for Rice, Roddy White, and Marshawn Lynch
- Devery Henderson and Dallas Clark for Rice and Dustin Keller
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Wrong Rice. This thread is about Sidney.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Sidney Rice is a BIG TIME "Buy Now" in dynasty leagues. This is going to be on of the only times you get a 24 year old, 6'4" 215, pro bowl WR with speed, hands, hops, and stregth for a discount. If he was older, his injury would scare me a bit more. Even if it takes him until next year to be 100%, he is still a top 5-7 talent in the NFL at his position.
Even going into this season, he was really underrated. If you include the playoffs, his numbers were right on par with Miles Austin, who is 2 years older and went 1 to 2 rounds earlier in most dynasty start ups. Over the 2nd half of the season, and into the playoffs, there were not many players better than Rice, let alone Wideouts - and he was getting better. He is a true #1 with pro bowl talent and it is obvious how much the Vikings miss this guy.
If you have a chance, and the Rice owner thinks like a couple guys in this thread, you need to get this guy on your roster. I have heard it said that Beanie Wells is 95% of Adrian Peterson; Sidney Rice is 95% of Larry Fitzgerald. Get him.
Even going into this season, he was really underrated. If you include the playoffs, his numbers were right on par with Miles Austin, who is 2 years older and went 1 to 2 rounds earlier in most dynasty start ups. Over the 2nd half of the season, and into the playoffs, there were not many players better than Rice, let alone Wideouts - and he was getting better. He is a true #1 with pro bowl talent and it is obvious how much the Vikings miss this guy.
If you have a chance, and the Rice owner thinks like a couple guys in this thread, you need to get this guy on your roster. I have heard it said that Beanie Wells is 95% of Adrian Peterson; Sidney Rice is 95% of Larry Fitzgerald. Get him.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I don't like this deal for you at all. You bought Braylon high, and Mossaquoi is not a special talent. A 2nd rounder is a throw in. I consider this selling low on Rice. It would take a lot more than this for me to move him. Back to Edwards, Holmes will be in the lineup soon, making Edwards the number 2 - his touches have to come from somewhere. Keller is trending up and will likely maintain his targets, so the likely scenerio is that they cut into Braylon's. No disrespect, as I am not familiar with your team or league, but I hate this deal for you. You give up the best player, who happens to be 24, for a #2 in a run first offense, with a below average QB and above average TE, Mossaquoi, who is doing nothing, and a 2nd round pick.
gandalas
Footballguy
How can someone who is 25 be on the downside of his career?
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
I bet he was thinking S.Smith (CAR).How can someone who is 25 be on the downside of his career?
dagwood
Footballguy
Yep my bad.Don't like S.Smith of the NYG though. Nicks is the guy to have there.I bet he was thinking S.Smith (CAR).How can someone who is 25 be on the downside of his career?
TheWick
Footballguy
To a team already stacked beyond belief....arrrrggggggstill not over that one Scooby
I'm a Rice owner in a dynasty league and there is no way in hell I'm dealing him--I held him this long and plan on being rewarded next season. I find it hard to believe Jackson will line up under center next year.
dagwood
Footballguy
The absolute earliest he is due back is Week 8.The Vikes are on their offweek.We will probably get some update on him when they get back to work next week.
hauser42
Footballguy
Agree the Vikes go out and get a better QB than Jackson for next year, IF Favre doenst come back. Maybe I am wrong but i dont see him leading this team into the playoffs and beyond.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
ur not wrong hauser. Jackson is childress's pet project. u'd think maybe he'd learn something from reid (pet projects don't always work out and at sometime you have to call it a day or there may not be another one.)Agree the Vikes go out and get a better QB than Jackson for next year, IF Favre doenst come back. Maybe I am wrong but i dont see him leading this team into the playoffs and beyond.
I'm a Rice owner in a dynasty league and there is no way in hell I'm dealing him--I held him this long and plan on being rewarded next season. I find it hard to believe Jackson will line up under center next year.
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Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
For what it's worth I have read that he is targeting a return on Halloween night vs the Patriots. It seems likely that we should start to hear something about him over the next few days.
az_prof
Footballguy
Wow. That's way more than I would have offered. He is hurt and who knows if he will play this year; he is in a contract year and who knows where he will play next year or with what QB? He has had one good year. Lots of question marks and no immediate production.I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Jackson isn't under contract for next year, so my guess is next year's QB is Webb or someone not on the roster.
Think of him like a high 2011 draft pick. Like a high 2011 draft pick, he's not going to do anything for you this year. Like a high 2011 draft pick, he's an incredibly valuable asset that is very likely to net you a long-term stud.Dez Bryant is the same way. He's not producing this year, but I'd pay big to land him if I could. Ditto that for Vincent Jackson.
I don't know if I'd laugh at that offer, but I'd shoot it down without blinking. By my rankings, Smith North is WR29 and Addai is WR31. Not exactly a strong package for a guy who had 1300 yards last year.Wow. That's way more than I would have offered. He is hurt and who knows if he will play this year; he is in a contract year and who knows where he will play next year or with what QB? He has had one good year. Lots of question marks and no immediate production.I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
Rice isn't under contract for next year, either.
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I don't think it's a bad offer by any means and if I owned Rice and this is a PPR, I'd TAKE that offer in a heartbeat. Rice has uncertainty with injuries as well as his quarterback situation going forward.I also find it difficult to use the rationale that Rice had 1300 yards last year, when Smith "North" had 1,200I don't know if I'd laugh at that offer, but I'd shoot it down without blinking. By my rankings, Smith North is WR29 and Addai is WR31. Not exactly a strong package for a guy who had 1300 yards last year.Wow. That's way more than I would have offered. He is hurt and who knows if he will play this year; he is in a contract year and who knows where he will play next year or with what QB? He has had one good year. Lots of question marks and no immediate production.I offered Steve Smith (NYG) and Addai and was laughed at...
I know people are going to say that Smith's struggled this year and he has to date, I personally believe Smith will rebound, but that's a different discussion. Regardless, using last year's yardage as a basis for a trade is pretty difficult to rationale when these guys put up similar yardage in '09.
