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Sidney Rice Update? (1 Viewer)
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Never thought of that. If Minn trades for Rice, it likely means they will lose Rice for the year. ugh. How much truth is there behind the trade rumors?
mozzy84
Footballguy
yea I heard that on the radio up here today. I have him stashed in one league and will probably axe him this week.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
So will he be back this year at all?
mozzy84
Footballguy
I would think so anyways. I just cant sit on him for another 6 weeks....
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think for the regular FF season he is toast. I don't usually throw that around for most players but I think the Vikes were just hoping he might be ready by the playoffs so they didn't toss him on IR but the reality is he had a very delicate hip surgery and he is nowhere near fottball/game shape.
DropKick
Footballguy
Ok.. MOP. Tell me what you know.
As I said in the Moss thread, someone with very close ties to the Minn. organization told me yesterday that they do not expect him back before 3/4 of the season is over if at all.
Playoffs baby!
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
If he could return to form, it would be worth it. If they deal for Moss I assume he's droppable...
dagwood
Footballguy
He really only has value in a dynasty or deep keeper league.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
The fact that the Vikings are trying so hard to sign Moss speaks volumes about what they think of Rice coming back this season.
If he is still on crutches and it's week 5 we won't see him until week 12 at the earliest.
If he is still on crutches and it's week 5 we won't see him until week 12 at the earliest.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I don't think that the Vikes being desperate to sign Moss is a sure sign about Rice in any manner. In reality... best case scenario, Rice wouldn't be back for a few more games. The Vikes really want to salvage their season right now before it gets too far out of hand. If they lose a couple more games back to back the next two weeks... their season is basically over. I don't think that giving up a 3rd round pick or so for Randy Moss is exactly an act of desperation either. The man is a stud, and will elevate their struggling passing game in a major way. Let alone if Rice does come back and they have them both of the field, Harvin in the slot, and Shank at TE... that is a serious offensive machine.
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Vikes schedule isn't easy through Week 8. Things could really go south quick. I really would not be shocked to see them 1-6, 2-5 through 7 games.
Only thing saving them is what appears to be a relatively soft 2nd half schedule. I think they've got to win 2 of their next 4 games IMO (and that is certainly no gimme with @ NYJ, Dal, @GB, @ NE).
My question with the Vikes is the mindset after 7 games if they are 1-6, 2-5. Will Moss/Rice even make a difference at that point?? Will Favre's head still be in the game? Will Moss be pouting/regretting what happened in NE? Will Rice be healthy anytime this year? Lot of 'what ifs' for the Vikes.
Only thing saving them is what appears to be a relatively soft 2nd half schedule. I think they've got to win 2 of their next 4 games IMO (and that is certainly no gimme with @ NYJ, Dal, @GB, @ NE).
My question with the Vikes is the mindset after 7 games if they are 1-6, 2-5. Will Moss/Rice even make a difference at that point?? Will Favre's head still be in the game? Will Moss be pouting/regretting what happened in NE? Will Rice be healthy anytime this year? Lot of 'what ifs' for the Vikes.
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Neil Beaufort Zod
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With Moss on board I can't see them going 0-4 over those games. I think they win 2 for sure, decent chance at 3 and a long shot at all 4.If they win 2 that puts them at 3-4. Rice would make a great mid-season boost to the team. If they are at 1-6 and 2-5 then you are right it could be a full scale melt-down at that point. I see the Vikes marching Rice out there in the GB game even if he is just a decoy to open up Shiancoe and Harvin.Rice SHOULD be licking his chops at playing against #2 coverage. He was a beast last year against #1.D said:
You talk like Rice is definitely coming back...and many others seem to think he will be back somewhere around game 12...any data to back it up or is it all speculation. If speculation, I'm fine...just want to know if we actually "know" anything about his recovery.
CrazyHorse1581
Footballguy
Sidney Rice was just on NFL Live and said he's still on crutches. Going to see the doc this weekend with hopes of ditching the crutches and starting rehab. Wingo asked him if he thought he would be ready in 2 weeks when he's eligible to come off of the PUP. Sidney wouldn't commit, but didn't sound to encouraged.
My view - if he's back by week 8 or 9 us SR owners will be lucky. Sounds like he's got a long road ahead.
My view - if he's back by week 8 or 9 us SR owners will be lucky. Sounds like he's got a long road ahead.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Just heard this as well, and I agree 100%. Didn't hear confidence in his voice.
CrazyHorse1581
Footballguy
One more thing and please correct me if I'm wrong. Players on the PUP are eligible to return to practice in week 6, teams then have a 3 week window to decide whether to activate that player to the active roster (and they must cut someone to open a spot) or IR the player.
Again, pure speculation, but I wouldn't be shocked if he goes on the IR. Like I said, he didn't sound like he was anywhere near ready for football practice...
Again, pure speculation, but I wouldn't be shocked if he goes on the IR. Like I said, he didn't sound like he was anywhere near ready for football practice...
Wishful thinking. No facts. Just pointing out that if I were Rice (which I'm not) I'd love to line up opposite Moss. A little caught up in the day's activities...
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
I am starting to doubt that we will see Rice at all in 2010.
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
Might not see him as a Viking next year either, if they sign Moss to a extension.I think his decision not to have surgery early in the offseason is worse than Vincent Jackson's decission to hold out.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Actually Excellent Posting!I had the same thoughts...perfect case of procrastination costing a ton of $ in the long run.
FFdork
Footballguy
A couple of things:
1. I've read that the crutches are there to keep pressure off the hip as opposed to not being able to walk without them. Keeping the pressure off is supposed to speed the healing process. He's doing pool work and other things he can do without putting pressure on the hip.
2. I don't think the Moss trade is related to any major change in Rice's prognosis. I think it has everything to do with the Vikings tough schedule. As others have mentioned, if they are 2-6 by the time they get Rice back the season is over, and (IMO) Brett Favre has found a convenient reason to be back on his riding mower in Mississippi.
I know the original hope was that he'd be full go by week 6 or so, and it seems pretty clear he's off that pace. Now, whether it's 2 weeks or 4 weeks behind, I don't know. If/when he does come back that would be a lot of mouths to feed if the Vikings had Moss, Shiancoe, Harvin and Rice all in the lineup. In a redraft I'd probably only be holding in a big league and/or on a deep roster. I guess the ray of hope is that the schedule lightens up considerably after week 8 and I could see the Vikings throwing more down the stretch to keep AP fresh for the playoffs (again with the big 'if' they are in playoff contention at that point).
1. I've read that the crutches are there to keep pressure off the hip as opposed to not being able to walk without them. Keeping the pressure off is supposed to speed the healing process. He's doing pool work and other things he can do without putting pressure on the hip.
2. I don't think the Moss trade is related to any major change in Rice's prognosis. I think it has everything to do with the Vikings tough schedule. As others have mentioned, if they are 2-6 by the time they get Rice back the season is over, and (IMO) Brett Favre has found a convenient reason to be back on his riding mower in Mississippi.
I know the original hope was that he'd be full go by week 6 or so, and it seems pretty clear he's off that pace. Now, whether it's 2 weeks or 4 weeks behind, I don't know. If/when he does come back that would be a lot of mouths to feed if the Vikings had Moss, Shiancoe, Harvin and Rice all in the lineup. In a redraft I'd probably only be holding in a big league and/or on a deep roster. I guess the ray of hope is that the schedule lightens up considerably after week 8 and I could see the Vikings throwing more down the stretch to keep AP fresh for the playoffs (again with the big 'if' they are in playoff contention at that point).
Max Power
Footballguy
Vikings | Sidney Rice injury update
Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:33:36 -0700
Minnesota Vikings WR Sidney Rice (hip) said on his blog that he is going see Dr. Philippon in Colorado Monday, Oct. 11, and will have a better idea of his return date at that time. He said he is about 6 1/2 weeks out and feeling really good at this time. "Hopefully I can get off these crutches and start working on getting my strength back to where it should be and the muscles strong in my legs," Rice wrote. "I'm not going to predict how long it will take for me to get back on the field full speed."
Source: SidneyRice18.com - Sidney Rice
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Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:33:36 -0700
Minnesota Vikings WR Sidney Rice (hip) said on his blog that he is going see Dr. Philippon in Colorado Monday, Oct. 11, and will have a better idea of his return date at that time. He said he is about 6 1/2 weeks out and feeling really good at this time. "Hopefully I can get off these crutches and start working on getting my strength back to where it should be and the muscles strong in my legs," Rice wrote. "I'm not going to predict how long it will take for me to get back on the field full speed."
Source: SidneyRice18.com - Sidney Rice
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bluesclues
Footballguy
This is the Vikes last year for a run as Favre will be gone.I expect Rice to be the long term plan - not Moss.Actually Excellent Posting!I had the same thoughts...perfect case of procrastination costing a ton of $ in the long run.
DropKick
Footballguy
Medical situations aren't cut and dry (pun intended), nor is their perfect knowledge. Whenever possible, the preferred choice is to let it heal on its own. Unfortunate how it worked out for Rice and the Vikings but I wouldn't call it "procrastination".Actually Excellent Posting!I had the same thoughts...perfect case of procrastination costing a ton of $ in the long run.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Rice is finally off the crutches. Still no indication of when/if he'll be ready this year.
But being off the crutches is certainly better than being on them (Even though my understanding is that was a pre-cautionary measure anyway)
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...nfl&id=4188
But being off the crutches is certainly better than being on them (Even though my understanding is that was a pre-cautionary measure anyway)
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...nfl&id=4188
beef
Footballguy
Rice "not close to returning" ? Out for the year
Sidney Rice-WR- Vikings Oct. 13 - 12:56 pm et
According to Tom Pelissero of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities, Sidney Rice (hip, PUP) is "not close to returning."
Pelissero relays the update from coach Brad Childress' Wednesday press conference. Childress said Rice is "stationary Wii-habbing," and in other words can't do much. Despite shedding his crutches, it's looking more and more like the Vikings would be lucky to get Rice back at all this season.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Sidney Rice-WR- Vikings Oct. 13 - 12:56 pm et
According to Tom Pelissero of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities, Sidney Rice (hip, PUP) is "not close to returning."
Pelissero relays the update from coach Brad Childress' Wednesday press conference. Childress said Rice is "stationary Wii-habbing," and in other words can't do much. Despite shedding his crutches, it's looking more and more like the Vikings would be lucky to get Rice back at all this season.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
He didn't have surgery because the Vikings were not coming to the table on his contract like he was told they would.Medical situations aren't cut and dry (pun intended), nor is their perfect knowledge. Whenever possible, the preferred choice is to let it heal on its own. Unfortunate how it worked out for Rice and the Vikings but I wouldn't call it "procrastination".Actually Excellent Posting!I had the same thoughts...perfect case of procrastination costing a ton of $ in the long run.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
That is speculation.He didn't have surgery because the Vikings were not coming to the table on his contract like he was told they would.Medical situations aren't cut and dry (pun intended), nor is their perfect knowledge. Whenever possible, the preferred choice is to let it heal on its own. Unfortunate how it worked out for Rice and the Vikings but I wouldn't call it "procrastination".
yes it is but he expressed over and over the displeasure of not having his contract addressed. It is the only thing that really makes sense.
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Class Dismissed
Footballguy
"stationary Wii-habbing,"
Equates to out for the season?
Equates to out for the season?
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
How exactly does it make sense? He hurt himself financially, in an attempt to retaliate against the Vikings? That doesn't make much sense to me, especially seeing as how he is a free agent. If he had a strong season, he would have gotten millions more than he will now. I doubt his "revenge" was more impotant than millions of dollars.
I don't think he hurt his market at all. If anything he guaranteed his ability to be a free agent. He is coming off an injury that isn't supposed to have any long term repercussions and the last season he played was off the charts. If you think his value dipped any then you clearly don't pay enough attention to the contracts players get.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Ha ha. Clearly.
Missing an entire season, in spite, CLEARLY can't hurt your value on the open market.it isn't really spite nor revenge ... it is more of him protecting his ability to be healthy and a free agent. Why would he go out of his way to have surgery if the team wasn't willing to step in and make their commitment to him. If anything it is smart ... it is a way of holding out without the negative impact/connotation of holding out.Ha ha. Clearly.Missing an entire season, in spite, CLEARLY can't hurt your value on the open market.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
What? If you hold out, they have the ability to change their minds, and give you a payday. If you are injured, they have no incentive to do that. In other words, it is like holding out with out a chance to get your way.it isn't really spite nor revenge ... it is more of him protecting his ability to be healthy and a free agent. Why would he go out of his way to have surgery if the team wasn't willing to step in and make their commitment to him. If anything it is smart ... it is a way of holding out without the negative impact/connotation of holding out.Ha ha. Clearly.
What incentive does he have to have the surgery before his contract is addressed? Why else would he wait all summer on something that he was told needed surgery at the end of last season? Why would he want to go into this season with the risk of getting hurt and having that really affect his free agent status? This also makes it less likely that they franchise him allowing him to get a long term deal with a signing bonus. You keep acting like he isn't going to get his payday ... he will and he will get a long term deal which is what he really wants. It isn't a team oriented move, it is a move for his own long term career; he will be at full strength coming into FA period and teams will pay him accordingly.What? If you hold out, they have the ability to change their minds, and give you a payday. If you are injured, they have no incentive to do that. In other words, it is like holding out with out a chance to get your way.it isn't really spite nor revenge ... it is more of him protecting his ability to be healthy and a free agent. Why would he go out of his way to have surgery if the team wasn't willing to step in and make their commitment to him. If anything it is smart ... it is a way of holding out without the negative impact/connotation of holding out.Ha ha. Clearly.Missing an entire season, in spite, CLEARLY can't hurt your value on the open market.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
We don't know what doctors said what, when. Again. Speculation. All the news coming out of Minny up until the big bomb, was that Rice was hoping and on track to be back by the start of the season. Not that he was waiting to have a procedure.
Judd Zulgad reported that Rice saw two separate specialists over the summer, both saying he needed surgery. He went through minicamp and whatnot (although I don't think he took a snap at minicamp nor training camp) and finally saw a third specialist at the end of August where he decided to have surgery.
Either he ignorantly thought he could work his way through it or he had another agenda. Either way there is no sense in bantering about this anymore.
Either he ignorantly thought he could work his way through it or he had another agenda. Either way there is no sense in bantering about this anymore.
Is there any 2nd source of information about Rice's likely return this season? We are upon week 6 so he is scheduled to come off the PUP list less than one week from now. The Vikes will then have 3 weeks to put him on the active roster. Where exactly is he in his progress...any MDs on the board who care to chime in with what they speculate might be a timetable?
