Sidney Rice (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

I'm sitting on Sidney Rice in a dynasty league for a low salary of $9 ($220 cap). Eventually I'm going to have to decide if this guy's career is shot. The cost isn't too prohibitive, and a part of me still feels this guy is capable of putting up some monster numbers. Recently rumors swirling that Peyton to Seattle is more likely than Peyton to other places so any WR on the team Peyton goes to should benefit. Two years, two shoulders and two hips ago Sidney Rice was looking like a top 5 dynasty WR. Obviously things have changed, and injuries are literally hurting the guy. But when he plays he looks good, in limited time last year with arguably the worst QB's in the league Rice had 2 big games out of the 8 he played, averaging about 11.5 in a 1PPR league.

I don't know where his injury situation is, but his salary is guaranteed this year I believe. Any insight on his rehab, and outlook for next year would be appreciated.

ETA..Not to mention the kid is still only 25 years old, so he is very young as far as WRs go.

Scratch the Manning prospects --- The Seattle Seahawks are not expected to be interested in Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning if he become available this offseason. "I just know if you panic at the position, it can set the organization back. So we're not going to do that," general manager John Schneider said.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Talent is not a question just health. If he stays healthy a full season he's easily top 20

 

[saintfool]

they need to upgrade the QB position. there are other options out there that don't include manning.

 

[eaglezzz]

I like Sidney more this year then last. He has a great talent, and should be healed back to 100% by the start of the season. Seatle has found Lynch as their main piece of the offense so that should help free up Rice a bit. They do need to upgrade the QB position but with a weaker division and schedule Rice could still put up 1000 yds and 8 TDs. Risky WR2 but also could be a low end WR1 if everything feel into place. I would put him right beside Santonio Holmes and DeSean Jackson as 3 guys that could have a huge breakout and get back to that WR1/WR2 status.

 

[mad sweeney]

I like Sidney more this year then last. He has a great talent, and should be healed back to 100% by the start of the season. Seatle has found Lynch as their main piece of the offense so that should help free up Rice a bit. They do need to upgrade the QB position but with a weaker division and schedule Rice could still put up 1000 yds and 8 TDs. Risky WR2 but also could be a low end WR1 if everything feel into place. I would put him right beside Santonio Holmes and DeSean Jackson as 3 guys that could have a huge breakout and get back to that WR1/WR2 status.

Sorry, the time for that description is over, there are worse now. AZ and StL had an off year last year, largely due to injuries, SF was inches away from the SB (which would've put a NFCW team in the SB for 3 of the last 6 years). Rice still comes down to health. Even if TJ is the QB in Seattle next year (please God, no!), he locks onto RIce when Rice is in the game. So if there's an actual good QB that can read Ds, look off safeties, make hot reads, and otherwise use Beast Mode to the advantage of the passing game then I think Rice is a WR1 (though at the tail end of WR1 status). And even if it's still TJ, you know Rice will be getting the first, second and third looks. His concussion last year would've concussed anyone who tried to catch the pass he tried to (can't remember if he caught it, I think so). If he doesn't get shell shocked, doesn't have the bad luck, then he should be well worth it. I see Seattle's offense exploding next year with all their young OL being healthy, Beast Mode and Baldwin making the slot a danger that has to be addressed.

 

[eaglezzz]

Arizona or St Louis defense twice a year does not scare many people. I get it that SF has excelled to a top Defense in the NFL but the other 2 are juicy matchups for Seattle WR's.

 

[Andrew74]

I have no faith the guy can stay healthy, so I sold him the first chance I got.

 

[jwb]

WR1? Top 20? Really???

The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone.

His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's.

I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

I think it was more Favre locking onto him than anything else. How many years does he have to play until that 1300 yard season is considered the anomaly?

 

[mlball77]

As a Rice dynasty owner, I think I'm sort of stuck with him at this point (and that isn't necessarily bad). I like his upside a lot, but his floor has proven to be pretty low due to inj issues and now maybe QB or offensive issues for SEA. Rice is thoroughly a hold unless I can find someone that has a man-crush on him (not likely at this point).

 

[Prinefan]

I have no faith the guy can stay healthy, so I sold him the first chance I got.

This. Not a believer.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

I think it was more Favre locking onto him than anything else. How many years does he have to play until that 1300 yard season is considered the anomaly?

It still happened.Here's how often it happens:2011-5 WR2010-3 WR2009-4 WR(Sidney Rice is in this group)2008-5 WR2007-6 WR2006-4 WRSidney Rice also had the least amount of targets from any of the WR's reaching 1300 in those 6 years.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'd hold for 1 more year to see if he can stay healthy. If there's so significant improvement this year I'd drop him.

 

[massraider]

If he is healthy, he is a solid start in a 3WR lineup. I am praying he gets a better QB, but I like him. The injury thing is a concern, I won't run out and get him at all costs, but IF he stays healthy, he will help fantasy owners next season.

 

[Zimm]

He is a 1 year wonder to me....This is off the subject but i have watched a lot of Andrew Luck college tape and Doug Baldwin looks amazing i don't know how he went undrafted and i see Baldwin as the number 1 for at least this year.

 

[jwb]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

No, I don't. Braylon Edwards (even older) is still on some of my rosters, as is Eddie Royal. I've never owned Rice anywhere, so I'm not giving up on anything. But Rice has been hurt what, four out of five years? Time after time with him. So we have four years of "he has great potential, but he's hurt", and one nice year.

 

[resko99]

I'd hold for 1 more year to see if he can stay healthy. If there's so significant improvement this year I'd drop him.

This is what I'm doing with him.I think his upside is worth the hold at this point.

 

[cvnpoka]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

I think it was more Favre locking onto him than anything else. How many years does he have to play until that 1300 yard season is considered the anomaly?

rice with tjax over the last 2 yrs:5 102 25 608 1093 79 14 382 387 1023 692 143 3564 yard .33 td per game1024 and 5td per 16 game seasonpretty meh but when you consider that both rice and tjax were battling injuries the second half it makes him worth a thought. esp consider that tjax's pec injury limited him greatly from throwing the deep balls that rice thrives on. seems rice is worth a gamble if need be.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

WR1? Top 20? Really??? The problem here is you have a guy with five seasons - five - under his belt, and only one with more than 32 catches. At some point, you *do* have to say certain people are more injury prone. His owners are still seeing that potential WR1 / top 20 stud. Well, last year, he played 8 games, and posted 32/484/2. He had two decent games catch and yardage-wise, and had another two salvaged by his 2 TD's. I realize his owners are invested in him and want to tout his potential, but there's a point where the Parcells "you are what your record says you are" description fits. I believe it does here. I don't own him anywhere, and I'm not looking to buy (not at the prices his owners are asking, anyway). If I'm wrong and he stays healthy and breaks out, so be it (it's happened before). My loss.

He's only 25. Do you give up on everyone this young that's had a 1300 yard season?

I'm one of the biggest Sidney Rice fans out there. I watched him at South Carolina and I was praying the Vikings would draft him. Rice has elite skills on the same level as Larry Fitzgerald (for those of you who have watched his games you know this and for those who think I'm crazy, you haven't done your homework). His hands are amazing and the catches he can come down with still shock me.....BUT even I still sold him in my dynasty league this off-season. The kid just can't stay healthy. He's now had surgery on both shoulders this off-season. It's really unfortunate because again the talent and ability he has is insane. We will likely never get to see him fill his full potential. I don't feel sorry for him though....he cashed in big time with his contract in Seattle. I'm happy the Vikings didn't shell out top dollar for the 3-4 games he stays healthy for annually.

 

[Tanner9919]

career season with Favre,has done relatively nothing without him..

like others have said,they need an upgrade at QB..and he needs to stay healthy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I play FF under the theory of obtaining players with a huge ceiling for your bench. That's what category Sidney Rice falls under.

 

[gandalas]

In my 16 team dynasty league, he is currently my WR5 behind Jennings, Marshall, Maclin, and Antonio Brown. Heck, he may be even behind Demaryius Thomas and Nate Washington at this point.

I am holding for one more year unless I get a good offer for him, but I doubt he will have a chance of cracking my lineup unless he breaks out again.

 

[JPeso]

In my 16 team dynasty league, he is currently my WR5 behind Jennings, Marshall, Maclin, and Antonio Brown. Heck, he maybe even behind Demaryius Thomas and Nate Washington at this point.

Maybe?

 

[jwb]

I play FF under the theory of obtaining players with a huge ceiling for your bench. That's what category Sidney Rice falls under.

I don't disagree with this when you are talking waiver wire / trade throw ins / etc.But what are you paying for someone like Rice?

 

[Cato]

I play FF under the theory of obtaining players with a huge ceiling for your bench. That's what category Sidney Rice falls under.

I don't disagree with this when you are talking waiver wire / trade throw ins / etc.But what are you paying for someone like Rice?

I paid a late 3rd for Sidney Rice. I felt ok with the risk/reward. Meanwhile in another league, tried to send a 2013 2nd, and was shot down. And even that, was on the high side of my risk tolerance/value chart.

 

[jwb]

I play FF under the theory of obtaining players with a huge ceiling for your bench. That's what category Sidney Rice falls under.

I don't disagree with this when you are talking waiver wire / trade throw ins / etc.But what are you paying for someone like Rice?

I paid a late 3rd for Sidney Rice. I felt ok with the risk/reward. Meanwhile in another league, tried to send a 2013 2nd, and was shot down. And even that, was on the high side of my risk tolerance/value chart.

I personally think an early to mid second is about right for him, but I do not think many owners will sell him for that (late third? wow, you got lucky! )

 

[Cato]

I play FF under the theory of obtaining players with a huge ceiling for your bench. That's what category Sidney Rice falls under.

I don't disagree with this when you are talking waiver wire / trade throw ins / etc.But what are you paying for someone like Rice?

I paid a late 3rd for Sidney Rice. I felt ok with the risk/reward. Meanwhile in another league, tried to send a 2013 2nd, and was shot down. And even that, was on the high side of my risk tolerance/value chart.

I personally think an early to mid second is about right for him, but I do not think many owners will sell him for that (late third? wow, you got lucky! )

Totally agreed. I guess said differently, I'm not comfortable paying more then a mid 2nd. But love his upside for anything lower then that...

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'd hold for 1 more year to see if he can stay healthy. If there's so significant improvement this year I'd drop him.

This is what I'm doing with him.I think his upside is worth the hold at this point.

To me the talent is there to warrant that conclusion. He may do very little but we've seen crazier things happen than a guy like Rice come back from injuries to stay healthy and be productive.Maybe we'll know more come the start of the season too as to what his current outlook will be for the 2012 season.

 

[B. Nugget]

I inquired last week and the owner wanted 1.09 and my 2013 1st ... no thanks!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I inquired last week and the owner wanted 1.09 and my 2013 1st ... no thanks!

yikes

 

[Todem]

I just moved Rice in a 12 team PPR dynasty league where I am rebuilding. I have the 1.2 rookie pick. I have always liked Rice.....but his history of being hurt has me very concerned. He is only 25 but I just felt it was time to go in another direction.

Gave:

Rice

Recieved:

2012 1.08

Willis McGahee

I needed a veteran RB as my other two guys are J.Stewart (come on man be the guy finally) and Mark Ingram (whom I hope can become the guy I think he is). At WR I already have Dez, Torry Smith, Boldin, James Jones and Bess. So I felt get another a first rounder, get a stop gap at RB for a year (McGahee will IMO be the guy again in Denver in 2012) and continue the rebuilding. I have Eli and Brady at QB. Jared Cook is at TE ready to blow up I hope. This team won a title 3 years ago then went into the crapper.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

I just moved Rice in a 12 team PPR dynasty league where I am rebuilding. I have the 1.2 rookie pick. I have always liked Rice.....but his history of being hurt has me very concerned. He is only 25 but I just felt it was time to go in another direction.Gave:RiceRecieved:2012 1.08Willis McGaheeI needed a veteran RB as my other two guys are J.Stewart (come on man be the guy finally) and Mark Ingram (whom I hope can become the guy I think he is). At WR I already have Dez, Torry Smith, Boldin, James Jones and Bess. So I felt get another a first rounder, get a stop gap at RB for a year (McGahee will IMO be the guy again in Denver in 2012) and continue the rebuilding. I have Eli and Brady at QB. Jared Cook is at TE ready to blow up I hope. This team won a title 3 years ago then went into the crapper.

You got a steal there! I traded Rice for a 2014 first rounder.....granted I traded him to a bad team so I'm hoping fro a top 4 pick that year. Talk about waiting for a payoff! You got a steal there!

 

[Todem]

I just moved Rice in a 12 team PPR dynasty league where I am rebuilding. I have the 1.2 rookie pick. I have always liked Rice.....but his history of being hurt has me very concerned. He is only 25 but I just felt it was time to go in another direction.Gave:RiceRecieved:2012 1.08Willis McGaheeI needed a veteran RB as my other two guys are J.Stewart (come on man be the guy finally) and Mark Ingram (whom I hope can become the guy I think he is). At WR I already have Dez, Torry Smith, Boldin, James Jones and Bess. So I felt get another a first rounder, get a stop gap at RB for a year (McGahee will IMO be the guy again in Denver in 2012) and continue the rebuilding. I have Eli and Brady at QB. Jared Cook is at TE ready to blow up I hope. This team won a title 3 years ago then went into the crapper.

You got a steal there! I traded Rice for a 2014 first rounder.....granted I traded him to a bad team so I'm hoping fro a top 4 pick that year. Talk about waiting for a payoff! You got a steal there!

I hope your right. It all comes down to hitting on that 1.08 pick. There is a decent amount of talent in the first 10 picks IMO. I should get a nice value WR or RB there. The 1.02 pick I hold has me torn. We shall see how the draft unfolds. Landing sports play a huge role as I have found out with Ingram. Wow. I truly hope he can emerge as he does have all the tools to be a very productive RB. But Sproles was outstanding and is a huge part of that offense. I have received a lot of buy low offers on Ingram which I have turned away. Pure garbage offers. Need to stay patient with him. New Orleans will give him a bigger role this upcoming season IMO.

 

[flapgreen]

He sucks.

 

[SproutDaddy]

He sucks.

Great insight.

 

[Gandalf]

In my salary cap league he is a guy I would invest money I. For one year only. Then kick him back into the auction every year where I would try to acquire him a my #3 WR.