Silicon Valley - New Mike Judge 8-Part HBO Series (1 Viewer)

[Donkey Derp]

I will try to rephrase. I think the show is great. There is so many great moments each episode (the last two weren't as good but still had theirs). The characters and team have been written where I want them to succeed. They have been developed that well by the writers and actors. Richard is so painfully awkward (the whole bathroom scene sums it up when he thinks Galvin is going to give him 10m), Jared left a high paying job because he believed in the team. Bachmann is that big brother type. So, it's not really poor writing or a bad plot, it's that the times they win are much more enjoyable to watch. If they had left off the season finale as them celebrating the court victory, I would have thought awesome. Instead, they chose go that route of Richard getting fired which wasn't necessary for the show to continue to be good.

 

[TheIronSheik]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

 

[fantasycurse42]

The code Dinesh wrote to destroy our code sucks

Gilfoyle and Dinesh will prob be my favorite characters next season.

 

[Kraft...]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

"Awww, this lemon has a bruise on it"

 

[northern exposure]

I will try to rephrase. I think the show is great. There is so many great moments each episode (the last two weren't as good but still had theirs). The characters and team have been written where I want them to succeed. They have been developed that well by the writers and actors. Richard is so painfully awkward (the whole bathroom scene sums it up when he thinks Galvin is going to give him 10m), Jared left a high paying job because he believed in the team. Bachmann is that big brother type. So, it's not really poor writing or a bad plot, it's that the times they win are much more enjoyable to watch. If they had left off the season finale as them celebrating the court victory, I would have thought awesome. Instead, they chose go that route of Richard getting fired which wasn't necessary for the show to continue to be good.

If they ended the season with them celebrating the court victory then the show would be like every sitcom on the major networks. Judge is going in a different direction here and isn't playing to the majority of TV viewers that always want a show to end on a positive note.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Erlich strapping on his carpal tunnel sleeve/brace/whatever and pulling a Willis Reed-like return to coding was great too. He was so gladiatorial. That little monologue he delivers to the real estate agent culminating in (paraphrasing) : "Respectfully, you can tell your clients to go ### themselves" cracked me the hell up.

 

[The Gator]

The code Dinesh wrote to destroy our code sucks

Gilfoyle and Dinesh will prob be my favorite characters next season.

that made me snort my rum out my nose a bit

 

[TheIronSheik]

Sometimes I think people point out errors in details in hopes that other people think they are smart.

"Wow. Gary figured out that there was a mistake in a sitcom? He must be a genius."

 

[Donkey Derp]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

 

[Sebowski]

You guys must have always been pissed when Gilligan and the rest of the Minnow crew always had their attempts to get off the island fail.

This was funny. And it got me thinking! Maybe the sterile lady is right. She just effectively fired Gilligan. Pied Piper might finally get off the island. Richard can't handle running a company. Now he doesn't have to.

 

[Donkey Derp]

I will try to rephrase. I think the show is great. There is so many great moments each episode (the last two weren't as good but still had theirs). The characters and team have been written where I want them to succeed. They have been developed that well by the writers and actors. Richard is so painfully awkward (the whole bathroom scene sums it up when he thinks Galvin is going to give him 10m), Jared left a high paying job because he believed in the team. Bachmann is that big brother type. So, it's not really poor writing or a bad plot, it's that the times they win are much more enjoyable to watch. If they had left off the season finale as them celebrating the court victory, I would have thought awesome. Instead, they chose go that route of Richard getting fired which wasn't necessary for the show to continue to be good.

If they ended the season with them celebrating the court victory then the show would be like every sitcom on the major networks. Judge is going in a different direction here and isn't playing to the majority of TV viewers that always want a show to end on a positive note.

It doesn't seem like I am the only one annoyed with this though. Several other people feel the same. Perhaps we are the minority, I don't know. The first 25 minutes of this episode was the best on TV imo - no reason it can't be like that and still succeed.

 

[Plorfu]

Erlich strapping on his carpal tunnel sleeve/brace/whatever and pulling a Willis Reed-like return to coding was great too. He was so gladiatorial..

And then Erlich coded and it gave me chills!

 

[northern exposure]

I will try to rephrase. I think the show is great. There is so many great moments each episode (the last two weren't as good but still had theirs). The characters and team have been written where I want them to succeed. They have been developed that well by the writers and actors. Richard is so painfully awkward (the whole bathroom scene sums it up when he thinks Galvin is going to give him 10m), Jared left a high paying job because he believed in the team. Bachmann is that big brother type. So, it's not really poor writing or a bad plot, it's that the times they win are much more enjoyable to watch. If they had left off the season finale as them celebrating the court victory, I would have thought awesome. Instead, they chose go that route of Richard getting fired which wasn't necessary for the show to continue to be good.

If they ended the season with them celebrating the court victory then the show would be like every sitcom on the major networks. Judge is going in a different direction here and isn't playing to the majority of TV viewers that always want a show to end on a positive note.

It doesn't seem like I am the only one annoyed with this though. Several other people feel the same. Perhaps we are the minority, I don't know. The first 25 minutes of this episode was the best on TV imo - no reason it can't be like that and still succeed.

The majority of the viewing public wants to see a nice, positive ending that ties everything up neatly. There have been cases of endings to movies being changed (both if they were based on books or were original works) because test audiences didn't like the negative, loose ends left hanging endings. You are probably in the majority among TV viewers. I would be willing to bet if SV was on one of the major networks, Judge would get pressure to end the season on a high note. Because it is on HBO, Judge isn't subjected to that kind of pressure.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

He has so many different smoking apparatuses. It's easy to miss if you're not paying attention to him or his hands, but he has one in almost every scene at the incubator.

 

[tdoss]

I love this show...don't care how formulaic the ebb and flow has become.

The characters are where this show is at...I wouldn't care if they all worked at a coffee shop.

Their interactions are fantastic...I'm nowhere near jaded yet.

 

[fantasycurse42]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

This was gold.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Yeah, you really have to watch everything. The camera paused a few seconds while Erlich is holding the giant pack of "Ultra Comfort Care" toilet paper - he seems like the person who would have nothing but the softest.

The check burning after Jared gave his motivational speech

I will try to rephrase. I think the show is great. There is so many great moments each episode (the last two weren't as good but still had theirs). The characters and team have been written where I want them to succeed. They have been developed that well by the writers and actors. Richard is so painfully awkward (the whole bathroom scene sums it up when he thinks Galvin is going to give him 10m), Jared left a high paying job because he believed in the team. Bachmann is that big brother type. So, it's not really poor writing or a bad plot, it's that the times they win are much more enjoyable to watch. If they had left off the season finale as them celebrating the court victory, I would have thought awesome. Instead, they chose go that route of Richard getting fired which wasn't necessary for the show to continue to be good.

If they ended the season with them celebrating the court victory then the show would be like every sitcom on the major networks. Judge is going in a different direction here and isn't playing to the majority of TV viewers that always want a show to end on a positive note.

It doesn't seem like I am the only one annoyed with this though. Several other people feel the same. Perhaps we are the minority, I don't know. The first 25 minutes of this episode was the best on TV imo - no reason it can't be like that and still succeed.

The majority of the viewing public wants to see a nice, positive ending that ties everything up neatly. There have been cases of endings to movies being changed (both if they were based on books or were original works) because test audiences didn't like the negative, loose ends left hanging endings. You are probably in the majority among TV viewers. I would be willing to bet if SV was on one of the major networks, Judge would get pressure to end the season on a high note. Because it is on HBO, Judge isn't subjected to that kind of pressure.

I already said I don't watch any sitcoms besides this so I'm not in the majority

 

[Donkey Derp]

The camera paused a few seconds while Erlich was holding the giant package of "Ultra Comfort Care" toilet paper. That cracked me up because he seems exactly like the character who would have nothing but the softest TP and let everyone that's what his ### deserves.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Yeah, you really have to watch everything. The camera paused a few seconds while Erlich is holding the giant pack of "Ultra Comfort Care" toilet paper - he seems like the person who would have nothing but the softest.

The check burning after Jared gave his motivational speech

These are all paid spots from advertisers...

I'm sure Fage has paid them a decent amount of money for the plugs they've gotten.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Sometimes I think people point out errors in details in hopes that other people think they are smart.

"Wow. Gary figured out that there was a mistake in a sitcom? He must be a genius."

exactly on the web we pick apart everything

 

[jdoggydogg]

I love it that Erlich is smoking from a different bong in every single appearance.

 

[Gator Shawn]

My wife doesn't get it, and that's part of why I like it. It's how I know it's good

 

[Gator Shawn]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

He has so many different smoking apparatuses. It's easy to miss if you're not paying attention to him or his hands, but he has one in almost every scene at the incubator.

You really do need to watch VERY closely.

 

[The Big Guy]

Thought the finale was boring without many funny scenes, might've been my least favorite episode of the season... Also not aware of many highly successful tech startups that fire their CEO while they still have a single digit amount of employees... I'm struggling to even name one.. Someone should also let the writers know that they don't have to fail at every turn to have a good show.

Russ better be back in season 3 too, he was an enjoyable addition to the show this year.

One mystery is how 3 comma guy managed to control 2 of 5 board seats and later sold his interest in PP, but never provided any funding. If Richard only controls 20% of his company, it should be no surprise to him that he can be fired at any time, but he should be rich if the premise of the show is remotely consistent.

This is how they are going to bring Russ and the "attorney" back into the mix next season. Richard will say they didn't receive funding and therefore the deal with Russ is null and void.

They did receive funding. Don't you remember the PP coffee mugs, golfballs and giant foam hands with the index finger up?

https://www.google.com/search?q=silicon+valley+pied+piper+foam+hand&espv=2&biw=853&bih=626&tbm=isch&imgil=0TosGS1rleVErM%253A%253BKy7iifIQWC1imM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fkeepmarketingfun.com%25252Ftag%25252Fsilicon-valley%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=0TosGS1rleVErM%253A%252CKy7iifIQWC1imM%252C_&usg=__KSh57SpkJ83-iQtm_3TXIzifbC0%3D&ved=0CDUQyjdqFQoTCPD1nLXzkcYCFcOPDQodJVEBVQ&ei=E-B-VbCgNcOfNqWihagF#imgrc=_

That is a treasure trove of pics from the show. There were a few of them that just for seeing them made me bust out laughing.

 

[The Big Guy]

The only way "this works" for next year is if They to sell to Hooli with Big Head in charge in order to escape the new CEO.

I did love the Bighead CEO angle, prob the best part of the finale IMO

You know that Big Head will make the promotion and somehow have to convince stone woman boss to hire back Richard and save him again. Did I just spoil season 3?

 

[fantasycurse42]

The only way "this works" for next year is if They to sell to Hooli with Big Head in charge in order to escape the new CEO.

I did love the Bighead CEO angle, prob the best part of the finale IMO

You know that Big Head will make the promotion and somehow have to convince stone woman boss to hire back Richard and save him again. Did I just spoil season 3?

No chance... Russ didn't make payments, therefore this will be litigated by the guy who can't call himself a lawyer. Russ will again fall out of the three comma club and then Richard will have a new problem.

 

[17seconds]

Bighead as CEO would make for a great season.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

More like a lemon suicide bomber.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Yes the whole delete deferral thing (with the celebratory drinks and lemons) was cheesy, but I still laughed my ### off.

All I thought about while watching that was how the writers probably read this thread before writing that scene and decided to just tell us all to go #### ourselves

 

[Tiger Fan]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

He has so many different smoking apparatuses. It's easy to miss if you're not paying attention to him or his hands, but he has one in almost every scene at the incubator.

apparati

/Erlich

 

[Tiger Fan]

My wife doesn't get it, and that's part of why I like it. It's how I know it's good

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I have to admit that I do not fully understand why Hooli lost.

Non-compete clauses don't fly in CA (which is actually true). Because Richard had effectively signed one to work at Hooli, the arbitrator found the contract unenforceable. Thus, Hooli doesn't necessarily have claim to the outside work he might've done there.

But just the non-compete clause is unenforceable, not the rest of the contract.

It's best not to expect any of the legal stuff to make sense in this show, because it's not going to. Just like you wouldn't expect the laws of physics to hold up in a Harry Potter movie.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

He has so many different smoking apparatuses. It's easy to miss if you're not paying attention to him or his hands, but he has one in almost every scene at the incubator.

apparati

/Erlich

I'm not sure if it's really apparatuses or just apparatus, but I'm pretty sure it's not apparati.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I love it that Erlich is smoking from a different bong in every single appearance.

Watering can in the backyard.

 

[Daywalker]

I agree with everyone saying it's becoming formulaic and limped to the finish. I don't think this season was planned out from the beginning. Seemed like they were figuring it out as they went, throwing in plot changes.

Expecting it to be refreshing when it comes back after Judge has some time to plan and write.

The second season was better then the first. Impressive considering one of the main comedic gems from season 1 died.

 

[On The Rocks]

Thought the finale was boring without many funny scenes, might've been my least favorite episode of the season... Also not aware of many highly successful tech startups that fire their CEO while they still have a single digit amount of employees... I'm struggling to even name one.. Someone should also let the writers know that they don't have to fail at every turn to have a good show.

Russ better be back in season 3 too, he was an enjoyable addition to the show this year.

One mystery is how 3 comma guy managed to control 2 of 5 board seats and later sold his interest in PP, but never provided any funding. If Richard only controls 20% of his company, it should be no surprise to him that he can be fired at any time, but he should be rich if the premise of the show is remotely consistent.

This is how they are going to bring Russ and the "attorney" back into the mix next season. Richard will say they didn't receive funding and therefore the deal with Russ is null and void.

They did receive funding. Don't you remember the PP coffee mugs, golfballs and giant foam hands with the index finger up?

https://www.google.com/search?q=silicon+valley+pied+piper+foam+hand&espv=2&biw=853&bih=626&tbm=isch&imgil=0TosGS1rleVErM%253A%253BKy7iifIQWC1imM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fkeepmarketingfun.com%25252Ftag%25252Fsilicon-valley%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=0TosGS1rleVErM%253A%252CKy7iifIQWC1imM%252C_&usg=__KSh57SpkJ83-iQtm_3TXIzifbC0%3D&ved=0CDUQyjdqFQoTCPD1nLXzkcYCFcOPDQodJVEBVQ&ei=E-B-VbCgNcOfNqWihagF#imgrc=_

That is a treasure trove of pics from the show. There were a few of them that just for seeing them made me bust out laughing.

Alright, no more C###y.

C####y's done.

I have used that name for a few people I work with, under my breath here at the office.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Read an interview with the guy who plays Richard and he was asked this:

And invariably, people might ask: Why didn't Richard just login to his own email account when he used the bus driver's phone?

That is a great point. [Laughs] I'm sure the internet will set itself ablaze. There are plenty of people who can argue about everything, and I hate gaps in logic as well. But there are some things you have to go, "Well, cause there's a story we're trying to tell." If you solve the problem, then it's over. When you're panicked, you don't think of all the options.

His point about the story is the key here. It's not about the logic being flawless. It's about the story and the humor.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I have to admit that I do not fully understand why Hooli lost.

Non-compete clauses don't fly in CA (which is actually true). Because Richard had effectively signed one to work at Hooli, the arbitrator found the contract unenforceable. Thus, Hooli doesn't necessarily have claim to the outside work he might've done there.

But just the non-compete clause is unenforceable, not the rest of the contract.

It's best not to expect any of the legal stuff to make sense in this show, because it's not going to. Just like you wouldn't expect the laws of physics to hold up in a Harry Potter movie.

That makes sense. Question about binding arbitration, though. Regardless of the actual legality of the contract, if the arbitrator ruled that it was unenforceable, is that legit, do both parties by consenting to binding arbitration, have to live with whatever his decision was, even if it was perhaps incorrect? I guess the question is, outside of questions of ethics or impropriety, is there an appeal process?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

And invariably, people might ask: Why didn't Richard just login to his own email account when he used the bus driver's phone?

How many people would be able to do this? I wouldn't.

For one thing, I have no clue what my password is. I'd have to download and install LastPass to get my password, and I'm not sure the bus driver would be cool with me installing software on his phone.

Beyond that, I use two-step verification. So even if I had my password, I wouldn't be able to log in on a new phone without a newly generated verification code that I'd be able to get only from my current phone whose battery is drained.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I have to admit that I do not fully understand why Hooli lost.

Non-compete clauses don't fly in CA (which is actually true). Because Richard had effectively signed one to work at Hooli, the arbitrator found the contract unenforceable. Thus, Hooli doesn't necessarily have claim to the outside work he might've done there.

But just the non-compete clause is unenforceable, not the rest of the contract.

It's best not to expect any of the legal stuff to make sense in this show, because it's not going to. Just like you wouldn't expect the laws of physics to hold up in a Harry Potter movie.

That makes sense. Question about binding arbitration, though. Regardless of the actual legality of the contract, if the arbitrator ruled that it was unenforceable, is that legit, do both parties by consenting to binding arbitration, have to live with whatever his decision was, even if it was perhaps incorrect? I guess the question is, outside of questions of ethics or impropriety, is there an appeal process?

If it's binding arbitration, there usually isn't a provision allowing for an appeal. What the arbitrator says goes, even if he's obviously wrong, unless he's mentally incompetent (e.g., high on drugs when he made the ruling) or there's some kind of fraud involved.

But in real life, if an arbitrator were going to base his decision on an issue that wasn't briefed or argued, he'd at least ask the lawyers some questions about it before ruling, and Hooli's lawyers would point out the black-letter law to him. (Even Pied Piper's lawyers should do that.)

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

And invariably, people might ask: Why didn't Richard just login to his own email account when he used the bus driver's phone?

How many people would be able to do this? I wouldn't.

For one thing, I have no clue what my password is. I'd have to download and install LastPass to get my password, and I'm not sure the bus driver would be cool with me installing software on his phone.

Beyond that, I use two-step verification. So even if I had my password, I wouldn't be able to log in on a new phone without a newly generated verification code that I'd be able to get only from my current phone whose battery is drained.

Your life sounds difficult.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

yeah the thing they totally got right is, I have no idea what anyone's phone number is, If I lost my phone I couldn't call anyone.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

And invariably, people might ask: Why didn't Richard just login to his own email account when he used the bus driver's phone?

How many people would be able to do this? I wouldn't.

For one thing, I have no clue what my password is. I'd have to download and install LastPass to get my password, and I'm not sure the bus driver would be cool with me installing software on his phone.

Beyond that, I use two-step verification. So even if I had my password, I wouldn't be able to log in on a new phone without a newly generated verification code that I'd be able to get only from my current phone whose battery is drained.

Your life sounds difficult.

Can never be too careful with those proprietary Dynasty 2015 TE rankings.

 

[El Floppo]

Yes the whole delete deferral thing (with the celebratory drinks and lemons) was cheesy, but I still laughed my ### off.

I'm still laughing at the show- even though the "oh-no-I-kicked-my-keys" or "oops, richard's laptop was broken" moments are tiresome.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Yes the whole delete deferral thing (with the celebratory drinks and lemons) was cheesy, but I still laughed my ### off.

I'm still laughing at the show- even though the "oh-no-I-kicked-my-keys" or "oops, richard's laptop was broken" moments are tiresome.

I was surprised Oh Yeah by Yellow wasn't playing during that scene

 

[El Floppo]

And I loved the ending with it being so ridiculously over the top with the lemons. That had me rolling.

Bachmann taking hits from the watering can

He has so many different smoking apparatuses. It's easy to miss if you're not paying attention to him or his hands, but he has one in almost every scene at the incubator.

apparati

/Erlich

I'm not sure if it's really apparatuses or just apparatus, but I'm pretty sure it's not apparati.

best to stay clear of any land-born hippopotamuses or octopuses then

 

[chet]

And is it really a disaster that Richard isn't going to be the CEO any longer? He retains his ownership stake and they get someone in there who knows WTF they're doing.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

And is it really a disaster that Richard isn't going to be the CEO any longer? He retains his ownership stake and they get someone in there who knows WTF they're doing.

As usual, Chet is right.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

And is it really a disaster that Richard isn't going to be the CEO any longer? He retains his ownership stake and they get someone in there who knows WTF they're doing.

What's his ownership stake? If it's more than 50%, he can make himself CEO anytime he wants. (Unless there are different classes of shares and he's got a bunch of non-voting shares.)

 

[kentric]

The only way "this works" for next year is if They to sell to Hooli with Big Head in charge in order to escape the new CEO.

I did love the Bighead CEO angle, prob the best part of the finale IMO

You know that Big Head will make the promotion and somehow have to convince stone woman boss to hire back Richard and save him again. Did I just spoil season 3?

Big Head is with Hooli which doesn't own PP. How is he going to convince stoneface to put Richard back in as CEO? BH as CEO will be some of the best 5 minutes of TV ever (right after the Hanson Brothers hit the ice in Slapshot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUbn5ss8j9c)butwould be ripe for serious overkill.