Sitting your entire team during superbowl, bad taste? (1 Viewer)

[tigerz]

I'm league manager of a league where the two teams that made it to the superbowl (5th and 6th ranked teams) are sitting everyone but their QBs. I told them I would not chop the pot for them but technically I could not stop the winner from splitting his winnings with the runner up after I distribute the winnings. I told them they should play out the superbowl and let the chips fall where they may and it's in the league rules that you have to set your lineups every week and that there is no tanking.

I don't know what to do here, other people are complaining and what they are doing looks like collusion... How would you discipline them? Ban them next year, refund their entry fee, force their lineups and decide the winner from previous week starts, do nothing? I think my league's integrity is shot and I don't know if people will want to play again next year after this stunt...

 

[Card Trader]

Why do you care? You are out of it, clearly they are better at FF than you, let them make their own decision at this point.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Unless these teams were making lopsided trades / questionable roster and/or lineup moves during the year, I don't know why anyone would care if they split pot.

I don't know why teams would do this, but it's not affecting anyone else. Don't invite them back if you don't want

 

[tigerz]

Please don't mistake this for sour grapes... I don't care if they chop it. I told them I couldn't stop them, it's the appearance that has everyone in the league complaining to me. If they played their lineups and just chopped it afterwards it would be fine but now I got people pissed off who think those two colluded the entire time because they are friends who joined together.

I don't know, maybe I should just review their history of moves in the past like you said to see if there was collusion. And If people won't join the league if those two come back because they don't trust them then I won't invite them back...

Thanks.

 

[The Kerminator]

If they are chopping the pot anyways I don't understand why they are sitting everybody. I agree it deals with the integrity of the league. Put in your rules a fine for not starting a complete line up next year. Not much you can do about it this year except maybe hold a league vote as to whether the owners are welcome back or not.

 

[eoMMan]

Chopping the pot is fine. No reason to be upset about this. It's their choice.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

If you force them to set proper lineups, how would it affect you or the rest of the league?

If you use your Commissioner power to set their lineups for them, how would it affect you or the rest of the league?

If you give them both zeros, how would it affect you or the rest of the league?

I think the answer to all three questions is "It wouldn't."

 

[tigerz]

It's just for appearance... None of this has a real effect on the rest of the league. As we know from the last year in the NFL though, appearance is everything. I mean right now I can't say either one is the winner on paper so there's like no superbowl winner to congratulate.

I thought you guys care about bragging rights? Isn't that as important as the money? Chop the money, okay. But how the hell do you chop a trophy? That notion is the one that bugs me. Call me old fashion but I still think there should only be one winner.

 

[Willie Neslon]

how much money?

 

[tigerz]

The payouts are like 33% for 1st and 22% for 2nd... yeah...

 

[whiskey7]

No objection to them splitting the pot if that's what they want to do. I never would but that's me. No idea why they wouldn't just play it out, though, for fun/bragging rights/integrity of the league/etc. That seems dooshy to only start QBs.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Setting lineups probably wouldn't change much.

They'd probably take the time to drop their players last minute and fill their lineups with injured/inactive guys. If they want to split, let them split. Really have no idea why anyone would do this, but if they got to the finals w/o any shenanigans, no reason to stop them. I'd take a hard look at whether keeping them in the league personally.

 

[Futz]

Nothing to see here since they clearly made the decision to split the pot. There's no league integrity at stake since it affects no one else. It's lame but oh well.

 

[Cunk]

Why aren't they putting in full lineups anyway? What's the point of just starting QBs? I don't get it.

 

[ArbyMelt]

maybe they did some trash talking to each other and it got so personal they wanted the QB's to decide it?

"My ******* QB is better than your ******** ******** QB!"

 

[Buffaloes]

why wouldn't you let them chop the pot if they agreed to it?

 

[tigerz]

lol, well at least i'm not insane here. I try to take a hands off approach to LM but I thought this was a douchy move.

I asked them and they said it was "for the lulz"....

 

[just_want_2_win]

At least they chose. My whole team is sitting out today even with the lineup set top to bottom.

 

[jomar]

Without either team fielding a starting lineup, both get zeroes and there is no winner. Apply either a one tie all tie policy or maybe they can split 2nd place money and the rest carries over to next years prize money. That'll learn 'em.

 

[ratbast]

Its against the integrity of the league and cheapens the championship. Make them play next week or find a new league.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Who cares?

 

[TDorBust]

Did they ever make a trade with one another during the year? Was it at all questionable?

If not there is 0 chance of there being collusion as collusion results in someone else being screwed over, they are really just screwing themselves over as the championship only affects them in the long run.

If an owner complained because of a championship lineup (and he wasn't in it) I would tell him suck it up and stop wasting my time with BS complaints.

PS- poor form not allowing them to chop the pot if they wanted to, better course of action would have been to tell them to set full lineups and you would chop the pot for them.

 

[TDorBust]

Its against the integrity of the league and cheapens the championship. Make them play next week or find a new league.

Last time I checked fantasy football is a form of gambling and normally players are allowed to chop the pot. I wouldn't chop the pot in either of my championship games but I wouldn't hold it against anyone who does.

 

[ratbast]

Its against the integrity of the league and cheapens the championship. Make them play next week or find a new league.

Last time I checked fantasy football is a form of gambling and normally players are allowed to chop the pot. I wouldn't chop the pot in either of my championship games but I wouldn't hold it against anyone who does.

I dont care about the pot but in my leages history matters and this is now an asterisk.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Why aren't they putting in full lineups anyway? What's the point of just starting QBs? I don't get it.

+1

 

[Prince Myshkin]

so if they are starting their qb's, what's the big deal? highly doubt they will tie, highest score is the winner and move on

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I think you have a league full of whiners.

 

[rockaction]

No objection to them splitting the pot if that's what they want to do. I never would but that's me. No idea why they wouldn't just play it out, though, for fun/bragging rights/integrity of the league/etc. That seems dooshy to only start QBs.

This. The actual action itself raises a question. Why sit your guys? Just chop the pot, unless it's automatically disbursed. It's weird.

 

[Card Trader]

Its against the integrity of the league and cheapens the championship. Make them play next week or find a new league.

Last time I checked fantasy football is a form of gambling and normally players are allowed to chop the pot. I wouldn't chop the pot in either of my championship games but I wouldn't hold it against anyone who does.

I dont care about the pot but in my leages history matters and this is now an asterisk.

 

[LC512]

It's just for appearance...

This is why I don't play in all-female fantasy leagues. I'd suggest leaving the league next year but you seem like one of the primary people who had their feelings hurt by what happened so you seem right at home in the league.

 

[Bri]

Maybe it was Brees is better than Rodgers, no Brady is, no Peyton is....and the result was they bet it all on their QBs.

 

[Buffaloes]

who are the QBs?

 

[lod01]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

 

[oddsbodkins]

Don't think I've ever been in a league where the pot wasn't chopped. I'm doing it this year and the decision netted me extray cayshhhhh.

 

[whiskey7]

No objection to them splitting the pot if that's what they want to do. I never would but that's me. No idea why they wouldn't just play it out, though, for fun/bragging rights/integrity of the league/etc. That seems dooshy to only start QBs.

This. The actual action itself raises a question. Why sit your guys? Just chop the pot, unless it's automatically disbursed. It's weird.

Agreed. Clearly the two owners decided to split the winnings. Fine. They can split it up after the check is awarded to the winner. The fact that they are going outside of the norm to start incomplete lineups and make a spectacle of it is what screams dooshnozle to me. And (as others have said) if you're going to start a QB, why not an entire lineup? Just a weird deal.

 

[rockaction]

No objection to them splitting the pot if that's what they want to do. I never would but that's me. No idea why they wouldn't just play it out, though, for fun/bragging rights/integrity of the league/etc. That seems dooshy to only start QBs.

This. The actual action itself raises a question. Why sit your guys? Just chop the pot, unless it's automatically disbursed. It's weird.

Agreed. Clearly the two owners decided to split the winnings. Fine. They can split it up after the check is awarded to the winner. The fact that they are going outside of the norm to start incomplete lineups and make a spectacle of it is what screams dooshnozle to me. And (as others have said) if you're going to start a QB, why not an entire lineup? Just a weird deal.

I think we're in agreement on this. Totally. I don't see why you're not setting your lineup. It's not other people's business in the end, but I'd be really suspicious of that sort of weird behavior and potential implications for your league. Just doesn't seem right.

 

[Buffaloes]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

if it is all the same then what makes them morons?

 

[lod01]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

if it is all the same then what makes them morons?

Because that's what morons would do. They think they are being clever by starting just a QB. The fact is, the team with the higher scoring QB wins, so why start just the QB. Are you one of these 2 guys or what?

 

[LC512]

Maybe they made a side bet over a few drinks that their QB would outscore the other guy's. Who gives a ****? The other 8 teams didn't make the championship, it has absolutely no effect on anyone but the two guys in the title game. It's really none of anyone's business except the two teams who played their way into the championship game. It literally makes no difference and has no bearing on anyone except the two of them. If there's clear collusion during the season then that's one thing, but I'm getting the clear impression that it's 8 butthurt also-rans having a pity party, and a couple of buddies who outplayed the other 8 screwing around having fun. What they do at that point is their prerogative. Don't like it? Do something about it for the 15 weeks before. Stop crying.

 

[Das Boot]

Chopping the pot is fine if they want to do it, just do it discreetly after the fact.

Starting only their QB's is dooshy and looks bad for the integrity of the league.

I'd personally boot both of them from the league for it.

 

[Cunk]

lol, well at least i'm not insane here. I try to take a hands off approach to LM but I thought this was a douchy move.

I asked them and they said it was "for the lulz"....

Ok, so at least we know they are under 15. You know what I would do? I'd boot them from the league. And if they asked why I would say....."for the lulz". I'd love to hit them.

 

[The Kerminator]

Maybe they made a side bet over a few drinks that their QB would outscore the other guy's. Who gives a ****? The other 8 teams didn't make the championship, it has absolutely no effect on anyone but the two guys in the title game. It's really none of anyone's business except the two teams who played their way into the championship game. It literally makes no difference and has no bearing on anyone except the two of them. If there's clear collusion during the season then that's one thing, but I'm getting the clear impression that it's 8 butthurt also-rans having a pity party, and a couple of buddies who outplayed the other 8 screwing around having fun. What they do at that point is their prerogative. Don't like it? Do something about it for the 15 weeks before. Stop crying.

And how does sitting the rest of their team affect the QBs scoring? It's a doosh move and I'd consider moving on without them.

 

[LC512]

Maybe they made a side bet over a few drinks that their QB would outscore the other guy's. Who gives a ****? The other 8 teams didn't make the championship, it has absolutely no effect on anyone but the two guys in the title game. It's really none of anyone's business except the two teams who played their way into the championship game. It literally makes no difference and has no bearing on anyone except the two of them. If there's clear collusion during the season then that's one thing, but I'm getting the clear impression that it's 8 butthurt also-rans having a pity party, and a couple of buddies who outplayed the other 8 screwing around having fun. What they do at that point is their prerogative. Don't like it? Do something about it for the 15 weeks before. Stop crying.

And how does sitting the rest of their team affect the QBs scoring? It's a doosh move and I'd consider moving on without them.

Why do you care? It literally has no effect on anything. None. Zero. Maybe they decided to split the pot and said "let's just play our QBs and whoever wins goes down as the league champ". Would I do it? No, it's kinda silly/stupid, but who cares? Obviously some people in the league who need to get some hobbies. Can't even imagine sweating something like that.

 

[Buffaloes]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

if it is all the same then what makes them morons?

Because that's what morons would do.

that doesn't explain it at all. if it's the same either way then it's not moronic. and it's not thread worthy. if it's moronic then there is a difference btwn starting a full lineup and QBs. I don't see how it matters one way or another. they are chopping the pot either way and it doesn't effect the rest of the league.

integrity of the league? this is a stupid hobby, guys. no one is getting screwed and it's funny if only for the responses to it.

 

[Buffaloes]

It's a doosh move

I keep seeing this, but how is it a ##### move? no one is getting screwed out of anything since it only effects the 2 teams playing.

 

[Cunk]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

if it is all the same then what makes them morons?

Because that's what morons would do.

that doesn't explain it at all. if it's the same either way then it's not moronic. and it's not thread worthy. if it's moronic then there is a difference btwn starting a full lineup and QBs. I don't see how it matters one way or another. they are chopping the pot either way and it doesn't effect the rest of the league.

integrity of the league? this is a stupid hobby, guys. no one is getting screwed and it's funny if only for the responses to it.

Everyone plays the whole year for this weekend. Then these owners make a mockery of it. Shows disrespect IMO.

Yes, it's just a silly hobby but you need the SB to hold some sort of importance to make it worthwhile, to give it some value aside from the money. If you don't agree that's fine but you also have to think of the rest of your league and how they feel.

 

[LC512]

Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.

if it is all the same then what makes them morons?

Because that's what morons would do.

that doesn't explain it at all. if it's the same either way then it's not moronic. and it's not thread worthy. if it's moronic then there is a difference btwn starting a full lineup and QBs. I don't see how it matters one way or another. they are chopping the pot either way and it doesn't effect the rest of the league.

integrity of the league? this is a stupid hobby, guys. no one is getting screwed and it's funny if only for the responses to it.

Everyone plays the whole year for this weekend. Then these owners make a mockery of it. Shows disrespect IMO.

have to think of the rest of your league and how they feel.

LMMFAO. This has to be satire.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.

 

[Buffaloes]

you also have to think of the rest of your league and how they feel.

I felt bad when my team was eliminated. I don't care who the championship teams start if I don't have a stake in it. what's the point of caring about this?

 

[Cunk]

I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.

So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?