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Skill position players ONLY...Green Bay vs Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

Which is better?

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Ministry of Pain

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Big Ben vs Buck Rodgers

Mendenhall vs The Pack

Ward vs Driver

Wallace vs Jennings

Sanders/Brown vs Jones and Jordy

Miller vs The Pack

I give the Steelers a big edge at the RB spot although I am sure Green Bay fans will make their case. Green Bay is a little or maybe a lot deeper at WR but they lack a TE and Heath Miller seems to be coming on at the right time. Lot of folks would vote for Rodgers but Ben has 2 rings to this point and more experience so I might want to roll with him plus he is tough as nails. Remember that broken nose? He just went right back out there...he had some serious surgery later that week and didn't miss any time. I doubt most folks at their local pick up game or line dancing contest could tough that out.

Offensive line is not a factor in this poll.

Thanks

 
I picked Pack, but in part because I think the Pack spread is a good match against the Steelers D.

If I was going straight talent I might have to take Pitt because Mende/Miller are far ahead of the Pack menagerie at those positions.

Rodgers/WR are --> Ben/WR, but not enough to make up for the above.

 
I picked Pack, but in part because I think the Pack spread is a good match against the Steelers D.If I was going straight talent I might have to take Pitt because Mende/Miller are far ahead of the Pack menagerie at those positions.Rodgers/WR are --> Ben/WR, but not enough to make up for the above.
That's the way I see it. It should come down to the better D.
 
I picked Pack, but in part because I think the Pack spread is a good match against the Steelers D.If I was going straight talent I might have to take Pitt because Mende/Miller are far ahead of the Pack menagerie at those positions.Rodgers/WR are --> Ben/WR, but not enough to make up for the above.
I agree. I think both teams will spread it out and the Packers D is better prepared to stop it.
 
I just have the Packers WR/QB advantages giving them the overall edge as well.

At WR, Ward = Driver (statistics almost even the past 4 years); Jennings > Wallace (although getting closer), and Jones/Nelson are >>>>> anyone the Steelers can throw out at those positions.

At QB, I just see Rodgers as a level above Roethlesberger, although Big Ben is more than adequate as well.

RB, I see as closer than most here, it seems. Starks is more than adequate at the RB position, although Mendenhall is much better.

TE is absent for GB, although if you substitute their 4th WR for the stats of the TE, is is much more even.

 
I just have the Packers WR/QB advantages giving them the overall edge as well.

At WR, Ward = Driver (statistics almost even the past 4 years); Jennings > Wallace (although getting closer), and Jones/Nelson are >>>>> anyone the Steelers can throw out at those positions.

At QB, I just see Rodgers as a level above Roethlesberger, although Big Ben is more than adequate as well.

RB, I see as closer than most here, it seems. Starks is more than adequate at the RB position, although Mendenhall is much better.

TE is absent for GB, although if you substitute their 4th WR for the stats of the TE, is is much more even.
I don't at all. Their QB ratings of 98 and 92 are similar and Ben is 74-30 as a starter right now, 10-2 in the playoffs with 2 Super Bowl rings...likely going to the HoF and a mortal lock if they win again in 2 weeks. Green bay throws it a lot and Ben has a more balanced offense he works in. Hard to give a whopping edge to green bay at QB, but I smell FF owners who are thinking more fantasy than real world. Not saying you are specifically but in NFL terms you won't hear many announcers say that Rodgers is leaps and bounds better than Ben.

 
I picked Pack, but in part because I think the Pack spread is a good match against the Steelers D.

If I was going straight talent I might have to take Pitt because Mende/Miller are far ahead of the Pack menagerie at those positions.

Rodgers/WR are --> Ben/WR, but not enough to make up for the above.
I agree. I think both teams will spread it out and the Packers D is better prepared to stop it.
Defenses are dynamic for Green Bay, Pittsburgh

By Rob Reischel, for the Journal Sentinel

Jan. 23, 2011

Chicago — Much of the attention before Super Bowl XLV will likely be on quarterbacks Ben Roethlisberger of Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay.

Roethlisberger has two Super Bowl wins, yet somehow remains underrated in many circles. Rodgers is one of football's rising stars and is fighting to join that class of elite quarterbacks.

But the real story is just how dominating the two defenses have been. Both the Packers and Steelers run 3-4 schemes that have been among the NFL's finest in virtually every category this season.

Pittsburgh finished No. 1 in the NFL in points allowed (14.5) and Green Bay ranked No. 2 (15.0). The Steelers were also No. 2 in total defense (276.8 yards per game) and the Packers finished fifth (309.1).

Green Bay was first in opposing quarterbacks passer rating (67.2) and the Steelers were second (73.1). The Steelers also ranked No. 1 in sacks (48), while the Packers tied for second (47).

Green Bay was second in interceptions (24) and the Steelers tied for fifth (21). The biggest difference between the two defenses is Pittsburgh ranked No. 1 against the run (62.8 yards per game) and the Packers were 18th (114.9).

Pittsburgh's defensive coordinator is 73-year old **** LeBeau, considered by many to be one of the finest defensive minds in NFL history. Interestingly, LeBeau coached Green Bay's defensive backs from 1976-'79.

Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers has turned a hodge podge unit into one of football's finest. Interestingly, Capers was the defensive coordinator in Pittsburgh from 1992-'94 and LeBeau was his defensive backs coach.

Everybody loves offense, but the mastery of Capers and LeBeau could very well decide Super Bowl XLV.

 
I believe my partisanship as a Packer Fan would negate any weight my opinion might carry so I have refrained from voting.

My breakdown:

Rodgers is the better passer. He is generally more accurate and with a quicker release. I do note, however, that Roethlisberger had an outstanding statistical game against the Packers just last year and that he had some insanely difficult completions in that game.

Rodgers is the more effective runner, by a long margin, though Roethlisberger is more valuable in short yardage runs.

Both have good escapability in the pocket and are very capable at making plays with their arms after escape. This seems a Steeler staple so I give a nod here to Ben, though not by much.

I do note that Roethlisberger is much harder to bring down and that Rodgers seems vulnerable to the concussions.

Roethlisberger has the Superbowl experience intangible, a not insignificant intangible.

My opinion, Rodgers, but not by much of a margin.

Runningbacks. Both teams backs seemed to pick it up yesterday. At this point the nod goes to the Steelers.

T.E.'s Miller sucks fantasywise whenever I depend on him. He always seems to get dinged up. That said I would rather have him on a must catch to get a first down than I would Lee, Quarless, or Crabtree. Finley's absence has been sorely felt, but that is history. Clear nod to the steelers here.

W.R.'s If the Packers group shows up in posession of their hands they get a clear nod. If not, and there have been many games this year where they don't the Steelers are their equal. A quick nod to Ward for his blocking and instigating. I note that I would be nervous counting too much on two rookies in a big game even if they did have a fine game yesterday.

Overall, and ignoring other factors like the offensive lines, I give a very slight edge to the Steelers for better balance and for the intangible of experience. Not ignoring offensive lines my answer would be the reverse, but that was not the question.

 
I believe my partisanship as a Packer Fan would negate any weight my opinion might carry so I have refrained from voting.My breakdown:Rodgers is the better passer. He is generally more accurate and with a quicker release. I do note, however, that Roethlisberger had an outstanding statistical game against the Packers just last year and that he had some insanely difficult completions in that game.Rodgers is the more effective runner, by a long margin, though Roethlisberger is more valuable in short yardage runs. Both have good escapability in the pocket and are very capable at making plays with their arms after escape. This seems a Steeler staple so I give a nod here to Ben, though not by much.I do note that Roethlisberger is much harder to bring down and that Rodgers seems vulnerable to the concussions.Roethlisberger has the Superbowl experience intangible, a not insignificant intangible.My opinion, Rodgers, but not by much of a margin.Runningbacks. Both teams backs seemed to pick it up yesterday. At this point the nod goes to the Steelers.T.E.'s Miller sucks fantasywise whenever I depend on him. He always seems to get dinged up. That said I would rather have him on a must catch to get a first down than I would Lee, Quarless, or Crabtree. Finley's absence has been sorely felt, but that is history. Clear nod to the steelers here.W.R.'s If the Packers group shows up in posession of their hands they get a clear nod. If not, and there have been many games this year where they don't the Steelers are their equal. A quick nod to Ward for his blocking and instigating. I note that I would be nervous counting too much on two rookies in a big game even if they did have a fine game yesterday.Overall, and ignoring other factors like the offensive lines, I give a very slight edge to the Steelers for better balance and for the intangible of experience. Not ignoring offensive lines my answer would be the reverse, but that was not the question.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: this...that's how you break it down.
 
I just have the Packers WR/QB advantages giving them the overall edge as well. At WR, Ward = Driver (statistics almost even the past 4 years); Jennings > Wallace (although getting closer), and Jones/Nelson are >>>>> anyone the Steelers can throw out at those positions.At QB, I just see Rodgers as a level above Roethlesberger, although Big Ben is more than adequate as well.RB, I see as closer than most here, it seems. Starks is more than adequate at the RB position, although Mendenhall is much better.TE is absent for GB, although if you substitute their 4th WR for the stats of the TE, is is much more even.
The lack of a TE I think is important. That is the position we can't cover at all. From Heap / NE etc ...That said for this, I went :shrug:QB: Edge to Ben because I know he will make that game winning decision/drive in crunch in the biggest game of all. I think Rodgers can but I haven't seen it so for now I will go with Ben.RB: In a vacuum I like Mendy a lot more than Starks however Starks has fresh legs so that evens out what would be a big advantageWR: Edge to the Pack because I would rather the Packer at every spot except for Driver/Ward. Driver seems to have fallen off a cliff to me.TE: Advantage Pittsburgh because Miller is far better than anything GB has.Damn close and imo is a coin flip.
 

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