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Sleepers and undervalued plays... (1 Viewer)
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ChampBailey24
Footballguy
Samkon Gado in redraft (I don't play Dynasty so I don't know).
Joe Jurevicius in redraft
Joe Jurevicius in redraft
Sleepers
Cedric Humes - The Steelers drafted this 230+ pound sledgehammer late in the draft. He is a really deep sleeper, but has the potential and opprotunity to fill in for the Bus
Reche Caldwell - The Deion Branch is something you need to keep an eye on. If he holds out, then Caldwell has high value. In 2004 he was on pace for 48 catches, 832 yards and 8 touchdowns. That was as the 3rd target for San Diego.
Alex Smith (TE) - He's someone Jon Gruden really likes. If Chris Simms continues his development, Smith could make a push for a top-10 finish at the position.
Undervalued
Aaron Brooks - It wasn't too long ago, that Brooks was a big producer in fantasy football. Now he is going to a system that fits him better, in a much better situation than he was ever in. Brooks is the ideal QB for the Raiders' offense and Randy Moss.
Reuben Droughns - He is a very solid number two, but on average, he isn't being drafted as one. Being drafted behind such uncertain RBBC backs like Reggie Bush, Willie Parker and Julius Jones. With the vastly improved O-Line, his touchdowns and production in general should improve.
Michael Clayton - He had one injury plagued season, so now he's rubbish? I don't think so. Besides, word is he's in tip-top shape this off-season, and has been impressive. Joey Galloway's season was a fluke, at his age, with his injury history I wouldn't count on him being the go-to-guy. You can get Clayton late in drafts, and he should produce like at least a number two this upcoming season.
Cedric Humes - The Steelers drafted this 230+ pound sledgehammer late in the draft. He is a really deep sleeper, but has the potential and opprotunity to fill in for the Bus
Reche Caldwell - The Deion Branch is something you need to keep an eye on. If he holds out, then Caldwell has high value. In 2004 he was on pace for 48 catches, 832 yards and 8 touchdowns. That was as the 3rd target for San Diego.
Alex Smith (TE) - He's someone Jon Gruden really likes. If Chris Simms continues his development, Smith could make a push for a top-10 finish at the position.
Undervalued
Aaron Brooks - It wasn't too long ago, that Brooks was a big producer in fantasy football. Now he is going to a system that fits him better, in a much better situation than he was ever in. Brooks is the ideal QB for the Raiders' offense and Randy Moss.
Reuben Droughns - He is a very solid number two, but on average, he isn't being drafted as one. Being drafted behind such uncertain RBBC backs like Reggie Bush, Willie Parker and Julius Jones. With the vastly improved O-Line, his touchdowns and production in general should improve.
Michael Clayton - He had one injury plagued season, so now he's rubbish? I don't think so. Besides, word is he's in tip-top shape this off-season, and has been impressive. Joey Galloway's season was a fluke, at his age, with his injury history I wouldn't count on him being the go-to-guy. You can get Clayton late in drafts, and he should produce like at least a number two this upcoming season.
M
MLBrandow
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I like every one of these, although I am not sold on Alex Smith as a top 10. Cadillac is going to be so far involved in this offense, I'm not sure between Clayton and Galloway that Smith will have much room left. I'd think 400 and 5 are more like his numbers... certainly very solid for a plug and play TE... but I don't think he quite cracks that top 10 IMO.Of course, considering he's being given away now, I think there's legitimate value here.
Brooks I wouldn't say is undervalued as much as some would think. Oakland and Dallas are two teams I am steering clear of in the fantasy world this year.
I would like to say Clayton will dominate this year, but it will depend on a few things: 1) Joey Galloway loses a step, 2) Simms has tunnel vision? (doubt it), 3) He doesn't throw his shoulder blocking for CW again in the first 3 games....
I think 1 is very likely, and I see Clayton finishing with fringe WR1 numbers, which is great value for him being drafted as WR2 right now.
One guy that I constantly see as grossly undervalued is Curtis Martin. I see him as a solid RB2, and he's being drafted among the leftovers. There is tremendous value here.
For me, my gamebreakers for undervalues are:
QB: Brett Favre
RB: Curtis Martin
WR: Michael Clayton
TE: Kellen Winslow
DEF: Houston
K: Josh Scobee
ShotGunStyle
Footballguy
Ryan Moats- Westbrook has never been able to play a full season, and Moats was breaking long runs left and right when he got the shot
Aaron Brooks- a potential top five QB who will probably fall late, late in your draft. Don't pick him too early though, because he could also end up being benched, but the possible reward far outweighs the risk
Aaron Brooks- a potential top five QB who will probably fall late, late in your draft. Don't pick him too early though, because he could also end up being benched, but the possible reward far outweighs the risk
by_the_sea_wannabe
:sj:
qb Vick, Plummer, Brooks
rb Dunn, F. Taylor, M. Barber
wr Driver, kennison, M. Jones
rb Dunn, F. Taylor, M. Barber
wr Driver, kennison, M. Jones
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Not sure on the ADP of all these guys off hand.
Jerious Norwood
Phillip Rivers
Billy Volek
Joe Horn
Marion Barber III
Jermaine Wiggins
Roydell Williams
Deion Branch
Joe Jurevicius
Darrell Jackson
Josh Reed
Lendale White
Brad Johnson
Adrian Peterson
Jerious Norwood
Phillip Rivers
Billy Volek
Joe Horn
Marion Barber III
Jermaine Wiggins
Roydell Williams
Deion Branch
Joe Jurevicius
Darrell Jackson
Josh Reed
Lendale White
Brad Johnson
Adrian Peterson
On The Rocks
Footballguy
i was just warming up to this idea earlier today. i would only say that they might be playing from behind late in games which might hurt his numbers a tad.i would like very much to snag Reuben as my #3 RB.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
The brought in some nice talent on D as well this offseason (FA and draft). I expect a lot of close games for the Browns. Hopefully they'll win their share.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I guess your predicting Caddy doesn't get hurt for half the season again when he gets worked to heavily huh?
Homer alert.Adam Sommer
Footballguy
If he still counts as a sleeper, then Matt Jones is a great pick. But with all the positive press lately, I don't know if he is really a "sleeper" anymore.
As far as undervalued, I would say Kevin Curtis, STL. With Isaac Bruces age and smaller roles over the past 2 or so years (and injuries), Curtis has seen increased playing time and targets. This year I see him taking over as the full time #2 WR for the Rams, and if Holt ever got injured, well, then Curtis would be the #1 WR on one of the best passing offenses in football.
As far as undervalued, I would say Kevin Curtis, STL. With Isaac Bruces age and smaller roles over the past 2 or so years (and injuries), Curtis has seen increased playing time and targets. This year I see him taking over as the full time #2 WR for the Rams, and if Holt ever got injured, well, then Curtis would be the #1 WR on one of the best passing offenses in football.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Same here.I worry that they see Hagan as more of a long-term solution as the starter across from Chambers and even if Booker gets hurt they may still bring Welker in off the bench. Before the draft I was high on Welker.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Undervalued:
Qb Kitna- he should explode this year
Rb Addai- He will get this job and he has the best chance of a rookie to be in the top 10
Wr Driver- Very consistent guyt his year. A lock to be top 15, I think top 10
Te Winslow- Please stay healthy, I've been carrying you for 3 years now.
Overvalued:
Qb Hasselbeck- A better NFL player than fantasy. Easily top 10 just not top 5 IMHO
Rb E. James- Great skill but O-Line just plain sucks.
Wr Chambers- Again I like Chambers just not enought o justify his ADP.
Te Clark- So many weapons make him a boom or bust type player, just give me a nice 5 points a week out of my tight end and I'll be happy. I just don't want to be shut out.
Qb Kitna- he should explode this year
Rb Addai- He will get this job and he has the best chance of a rookie to be in the top 10
Wr Driver- Very consistent guyt his year. A lock to be top 15, I think top 10
Te Winslow- Please stay healthy, I've been carrying you for 3 years now.
Overvalued:
Qb Hasselbeck- A better NFL player than fantasy. Easily top 10 just not top 5 IMHO
Rb E. James- Great skill but O-Line just plain sucks.
Wr Chambers- Again I like Chambers just not enought o justify his ADP.
Te Clark- So many weapons make him a boom or bust type player, just give me a nice 5 points a week out of my tight end and I'll be happy. I just don't want to be shut out.
Birdie048
Footballguy
OK.... I can add the names I am viewing as sleepers....
QB: Kitna - solid, steady leader who has talented WR's as his weapons and an OC who knows how to use them.
RB1: LenDale White - give White 'til Week 3 to pick up the game fully and let Vince Young sit on the bench while Volek airs out the Def giving him room to push the pile.
RB2: Marion Barber III - Week 4 when JJ goes to IR and make him Parcell's Golden Boy!
WR: Reggie Williams - first round talent compared favorably to Roy Williams coming out, recovering from concussion and a hot/cold QB.
WR: Mark Clayton - Balt offense has room to move up and J Lewis/M Anderson are not the threat they once were... OC will use McNair and Clayton to open up the playbook.
TE: Zach Hilton - Brees has shown the favorite trend to hit a TE. Hilton will be there for Drew!
QB: Kitna - solid, steady leader who has talented WR's as his weapons and an OC who knows how to use them.
RB1: LenDale White - give White 'til Week 3 to pick up the game fully and let Vince Young sit on the bench while Volek airs out the Def giving him room to push the pile.
RB2: Marion Barber III - Week 4 when JJ goes to IR and make him Parcell's Golden Boy!
WR: Reggie Williams - first round talent compared favorably to Roy Williams coming out, recovering from concussion and a hot/cold QB.
WR: Mark Clayton - Balt offense has room to move up and J Lewis/M Anderson are not the threat they once were... OC will use McNair and Clayton to open up the playbook.
TE: Zach Hilton - Brees has shown the favorite trend to hit a TE. Hilton will be there for Drew!
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afc east -
NE - ben watson
afc north -
BAL - mark clayton
CLE - kellen winslow
afc south -
JAX - byron leftwich (undervalue play) & marcedes lewis (corey chavous said he has better ball skills than vernon davis & i believe him... not as explosive as matt jones, but could already be best receiving weapon on the team... finally having a go to guy between the hashes will help lefty overcome his achilles heel of holding the ball too long... should be heavily involved early & often with uncertainty in wake of unexpected jimmy smith retirement)
TEN - billy volek & lendale white (could start early)
HOU - david carr (best offensive coaching... best WRs... probably best OL yet... detect a theme?) & dre johnson (year he breaks into top 10?)
afc west -
DEN - tatum bell (when did "FREAKIN" get officially dropped between ron & dayne
) & rod smith due to age... javon walker should help smith a lot...
SD - phillip rivers (ready as he'll ever be... more physical talent than brees & has superb intangibles... their defense could be a monster) & keenan mccardell (dissed for age like rod smith but these guys are energizer bunnies)
OAK - brooks (i was wrong about collins last year, but i'm going back to the well)
nfc east -
DAL - bledsoe, julius jones (if he stays healthy stars are aligned for a big season) & terry glenn (not as sexy a pick as TO, but can be had far later & i'd be surprised if he sees a double team all year)
PHI - reggie brown (WR1 by default, but he has legit skills... his rookie numbers, while modest, are impressive for PHI & he could take it to another level in year two) & LJ smith (was on a roll before mcnabb was injured... could figure even more prominently with TO out of the picture)
nfc north -
CHI - mark bradley (flashed big time talent in limited action before going down... second best rookie WR i saw after braylon edwards... freak who won his state decathlon, i think... far more pro ready game than advertised)
MIN - mewelde moore (if taylor falters he may look eerily reminiscent of westbrook to former PHI OC childress) & troy williamson (speed merchant has underrated hands & shouldn't lack opportunity in his soph season... k-rob should draw double coverage... has the ability to be among league leaders in YPC average early in his career)
DET - jon kitna (i think he was pro bowler last year he started... not young but should be well rested after carson palmer-induced sabbatical... heady player who will prove to be excellent fit in fearsomely complex martz pass attack) & roy williams (dre johnson-like in that he has top 3-5 physical ability & raw talent, has been held back by multiple factors that may have been removed... the floodgates that held him back first two seasons could burst in 2006... part of exclusive group of WRs that have gotten 8 TDs in first two seasons)
GB - keep an eye on greg jennings if he starts... dissed due to level of competition (western michigan) but one of only about 10 WRs in ncaa history to get 1,000 receiving yards THREE times... coaches & teammates were raving about his smooth, polished route running... one of best returners in the nation last year, so you know he can bust some open field moves
nfc south -
CAR - deshaun foster (IF he can stay healthy, and that IF if rendered to actual scale would fill an IMAX screen, has the goods to hold the admittedly luminously talented deangelo williams at bay for at least another season... fox fiercely loyal to vets... see stephen davis last year)
TB - joey galloway (no reason he can't do better than last year if surrounding talent is better) & alex smith (coaches are talking him up... might be better downfield threat, if not complete TE, than more highly touted heath miller... defenses will be preoccupied with caddy, galloway, clayton, stovall & co.)
ATL - michael jenkins (underrated talent, vick might break out one of these years, so why not 2006, white might be more talented, yet not do as good against CB1 as jenkins does against CB2)
NO - reggie bush (stats of top 30 RB AND top 30 WR = top 15 RB stats with upside... his pure running talent will prove too compelling for new HC payton to not increase his carries at expense of deuce as the season progresses) & donte stallworth (better QB in brees & eroding skills of horn could enable him to build on 2005 comeback year)
nfc west -
SEA - nate burleson (miscast as WR1 last year, but with defenses distracted by SA & jackson, could have a return to 2004 form when he looked like ascendant player & breakout candidate... local product should be comfortable & right at home in "new" surroundings) & jerramy stevens (if knee trouble behind him, he began to realize his formidable potential & should start where he left off... ah, in the regular season, i mean )...
STL - klopfenstein (new HC linehan likes to involve TE... see wiggins & mcmichael... & he should be crazy open with WRs holt, bruce, curtis, steven jackson coming out of backfield & opposite byrd in two TE set at times)
ARI - warner/leinart (grab both & your QB could take a run at 4,500 yards & 25+ TDs)
SF - eric johnson (forgotten man in SF with drafting of vernon davis... could go to two TE set a lot & he could get close to numbers of his far higher pedigreed counterpart WAY cheaper)
NE - ben watson
afc north -
BAL - mark clayton
CLE - kellen winslow
afc south -
JAX - byron leftwich (undervalue play) & marcedes lewis (corey chavous said he has better ball skills than vernon davis & i believe him... not as explosive as matt jones, but could already be best receiving weapon on the team... finally having a go to guy between the hashes will help lefty overcome his achilles heel of holding the ball too long... should be heavily involved early & often with uncertainty in wake of unexpected jimmy smith retirement)
TEN - billy volek & lendale white (could start early)
HOU - david carr (best offensive coaching... best WRs... probably best OL yet... detect a theme?) & dre johnson (year he breaks into top 10?)
afc west -
DEN - tatum bell (when did "FREAKIN" get officially dropped between ron & dayne
) & rod smith due to age... javon walker should help smith a lot...SD - phillip rivers (ready as he'll ever be... more physical talent than brees & has superb intangibles... their defense could be a monster) & keenan mccardell (dissed for age like rod smith but these guys are energizer bunnies)
OAK - brooks (i was wrong about collins last year, but i'm going back to the well)
nfc east -
DAL - bledsoe, julius jones (if he stays healthy stars are aligned for a big season) & terry glenn (not as sexy a pick as TO, but can be had far later & i'd be surprised if he sees a double team all year)
PHI - reggie brown (WR1 by default, but he has legit skills... his rookie numbers, while modest, are impressive for PHI & he could take it to another level in year two) & LJ smith (was on a roll before mcnabb was injured... could figure even more prominently with TO out of the picture)
nfc north -
CHI - mark bradley (flashed big time talent in limited action before going down... second best rookie WR i saw after braylon edwards... freak who won his state decathlon, i think... far more pro ready game than advertised)
MIN - mewelde moore (if taylor falters he may look eerily reminiscent of westbrook to former PHI OC childress) & troy williamson (speed merchant has underrated hands & shouldn't lack opportunity in his soph season... k-rob should draw double coverage... has the ability to be among league leaders in YPC average early in his career)
DET - jon kitna (i think he was pro bowler last year he started... not young but should be well rested after carson palmer-induced sabbatical... heady player who will prove to be excellent fit in fearsomely complex martz pass attack) & roy williams (dre johnson-like in that he has top 3-5 physical ability & raw talent, has been held back by multiple factors that may have been removed... the floodgates that held him back first two seasons could burst in 2006... part of exclusive group of WRs that have gotten 8 TDs in first two seasons)
GB - keep an eye on greg jennings if he starts... dissed due to level of competition (western michigan) but one of only about 10 WRs in ncaa history to get 1,000 receiving yards THREE times... coaches & teammates were raving about his smooth, polished route running... one of best returners in the nation last year, so you know he can bust some open field moves
nfc south -
CAR - deshaun foster (IF he can stay healthy, and that IF if rendered to actual scale would fill an IMAX screen, has the goods to hold the admittedly luminously talented deangelo williams at bay for at least another season... fox fiercely loyal to vets... see stephen davis last year)
TB - joey galloway (no reason he can't do better than last year if surrounding talent is better) & alex smith (coaches are talking him up... might be better downfield threat, if not complete TE, than more highly touted heath miller... defenses will be preoccupied with caddy, galloway, clayton, stovall & co.)
ATL - michael jenkins (underrated talent, vick might break out one of these years, so why not 2006, white might be more talented, yet not do as good against CB1 as jenkins does against CB2)
NO - reggie bush (stats of top 30 RB AND top 30 WR = top 15 RB stats with upside... his pure running talent will prove too compelling for new HC payton to not increase his carries at expense of deuce as the season progresses) & donte stallworth (better QB in brees & eroding skills of horn could enable him to build on 2005 comeback year)
nfc west -
SEA - nate burleson (miscast as WR1 last year, but with defenses distracted by SA & jackson, could have a return to 2004 form when he looked like ascendant player & breakout candidate... local product should be comfortable & right at home in "new" surroundings) & jerramy stevens (if knee trouble behind him, he began to realize his formidable potential & should start where he left off... ah, in the regular season, i mean
)...STL - klopfenstein (new HC linehan likes to involve TE... see wiggins & mcmichael... & he should be crazy open with WRs holt, bruce, curtis, steven jackson coming out of backfield & opposite byrd in two TE set at times)
ARI - warner/leinart (grab both & your QB could take a run at 4,500 yards & 25+ TDs)
SF - eric johnson (forgotten man in SF with drafting of vernon davis... could go to two TE set a lot & he could get close to numbers of his far higher pedigreed counterpart WAY cheaper)
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nygiants56
Footballguy
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Despite the fact that he's consistently top 5 when he plays?
Blackjacks
Footballguy
By my #'s he was #8 last year. Palmer
Brady
P.Manning
E. Manning
Bledsoe
Green
Brees
Hasselbeck
Mapmaker
Footballguy
afc east -
NE - ben watson
afc north -
BAL - mark clayton
CLE - kellen winslow
afc south -
JAX - byron leftwich (undervalue play) & marcedes lewis (corey chavous said he has better ball skills than vernon davis & i believe him... not as explosive as matt jones, but could already be best receiving weapon on the team... finally having a go to guy between the hashes will help lefty overcome his achilles heel of holding the ball too long... should be heavily involved early & often with uncertainty in wake of unexpected jimmy smith retirement)
TEN - billy volek & lendale white (could start early)
HOU - david carr (best offensive coaching... best WRs... probably best OL yet... detect a theme?) & dre johnson (year he breaks into top 10?)
afc west -
DEN - tatum bell (when did "FREAKIN" get officially dropped between ron & dayne
SD - phillip rivers (ready as he'll ever be... more physical talent than brees & has superb intangibles... their defense could be a monster) & keenan mccardell (dissed for age like rod smith but these guys are energizer bunnies)
OAK - brooks (i was wrong about collins last year, but i'm going back to the well)
nfc east -
DAL - bledsoe, julius jones (if he stays healthy stars are aligned for a big season) & terry glenn (not as sexy a pick as TO, but can be had far later & i'd be surprised if he sees a double team all year)
PHI - reggie brown (WR1 by default, but he has legit skills... his rookie numbers, while modest, are impressive for PHI & he could take it to another level in year two) & LJ smith (was on a roll before mcnabb was injured... could figure even more prominently with TO out of the picture)
nfc north -
CHI - mark bradley (flashed big time talent in limited action before going down... second best rookie WR i saw after braylon edwards... freak who won his state decathlon, i think... far more pro ready game than advertised)
MIN - mewelde moore (if taylor falters he may look eerily reminiscent of westbrook to former PHI OC childress) & troy williamson (speed merchant has underrated hands & shouldn't lack opportunity in his soph season... k-rob should draw double coverage... has the ability to be among league leaders in YPC average early in his career)
DET - jon kitna (i think he was pro bowler last year he started... not young but should be well rested after carson palmer-induced sabbatical... heady player who will prove to be excellent fit in fearsomely complex martz pass attack) & roy williams (dre johnson-like in that he has top 3-5 physical ability & raw talent, has been held back by multiple factors that may have been removed... the floodgates that held him back first two seasons could burst in 2006... part of exclusive group of WRs that have gotten 8 TDs in first two seasons)
GB - keep an eye on greg jennings if he starts... dissed due to level of competition (western michigan) but one of only about 10 WRs in ncaa history to get 1,000 receiving yards THREE times... coaches & teammates were raving about his smooth, polished route running... one of best returners in the nation last year, so you know he can bust some open field moves
nfc south -
CAR - deshaun foster (IF he can stay healthy, and that IF if rendered to actual scale would fill an IMAX screen, has the goods to hold the admittedly luminously talented deangelo williams at bay for at least another season... fox fiercely loyal to vets... see stephen davis last year)
TB - joey galloway (no reason he can't do better than last year if surrounding talent is better) & alex smith (coaches are talking him up... might be better downfield threat, if not complete TE, than more highly touted heath miller... defenses will be preoccupied with caddy, galloway, clayton, stovall & co.)
ATL - michael jenkins (underrated talent, vick might break out one of these years, so why not 2006, white might be more talented, yet not do as good against CB1 as jenkins does against CB2)
NO - reggie bush (stats of top 30 RB AND top 30 WR = top 15 RB stats with upside... his pure running talent will prove too compelling for new HC payton to not increase his carries at expense of deuce as the season progresses) & donte stallworth (better QB in brees & eroding skills of horn could enable him to build on 2005 comeback year)
nfc west -
SEA - nate burleson (miscast as WR1 last year, but with defenses distracted by SA & jackson, could have a return to 2004 form when he looked like ascendant player & breakout candidate... local product should be comfortable & right at home in "new" surroundings) & jerramy stevens (if knee trouble behind him, he began to realize his formidable potential & should start where he left off... ah, in the regular season, i mean
STL - klopfenstein (new HC linehan likes to involve TE... see wiggins & mcmichael... & he should be crazy open with WRs holt, bruce, curtis, steven jackson coming out of backfield & opposite byrd in two TE set at times)
ARI - warner/leinart (grab both & your QB could take a run at 4,500 yards & 25+ TDs)
SF - eric johnson (forgotten man in SF with drafting of vernon davis... could go to two TE set a lot & he could get close to numbers of his far higher pedigreed counterpart WAY cheaper)
I don't see 1 pick here I honestly disagree with .... really love the Jacksonville calls !
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
What #s are those?
I love that a couple people have picked up on my #1 sleeper for this season, here is why he will succeed.
Zach Hilton, TE for New Orleans Saints
1. Brees is coming back from shoulder surgery. If anything, he has already shown that he enjoys throwing to the TE, and with his arm strength not likely to be fully up to par, it could be difficult to find the WRs downfield. I like the possibility of dump offs to the TE over the middle.
2. Sean Peyton has proven as O.C. for Dallas that he will get the TE involved. Witten put up some sick stats with Dallas when he wasn't hurt.
3. Hilton ended the year on a huge upside. Last 7 games playing for a much worse team and QB:
Points Targets Receptions Yards
17 @Buccaneers 12.40 9 5 74
16 Lions 15.30 8 7 83
15 Panthers 1.70 4 1 7
14 @Falcons 8.10 5 4 41
13 Buccaneers 9.00 9 4 50
12 @Jets 12.30 6 3 33
11 @Patriots 13.20 7 6 72
7 Game total ~11+ ~7 ~4.5 ~55
I penciled in Drew Bennett two years ago (of course he got hurt and I dropped him early before the explosion
) and now here is my $1 starting TE.
Zach Hilton, TE for New Orleans Saints
1. Brees is coming back from shoulder surgery. If anything, he has already shown that he enjoys throwing to the TE, and with his arm strength not likely to be fully up to par, it could be difficult to find the WRs downfield. I like the possibility of dump offs to the TE over the middle.
2. Sean Peyton has proven as O.C. for Dallas that he will get the TE involved. Witten put up some sick stats with Dallas when he wasn't hurt.
3. Hilton ended the year on a huge upside. Last 7 games playing for a much worse team and QB:
Points Targets Receptions Yards
17 @Buccaneers 12.40 9 5 74
16 Lions 15.30 8 7 83
15 Panthers 1.70 4 1 7
14 @Falcons 8.10 5 4 41
13 Buccaneers 9.00 9 4 50
12 @Jets 12.30 6 3 33
11 @Patriots 13.20 7 6 72
7 Game total ~11+ ~7 ~4.5 ~55
I penciled in Drew Bennett two years ago (of course he got hurt and I dropped him early before the explosion
) and now here is my $1 starting TE.
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Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Arnaz Battle
First three games before being injured in '05:5-59 1 TD4-446-68 1 TDWR coach likened him to Boldin early last season and showed some nice flashes before his injury (Note that WR coach was with Arz in Boldin's rookie year). Fourth year after converting to WR from QB- could be a breakout year.Injuries are a concern.
Not even drafted by pick 225 according to FBG ADP. Mistake.
First three games before being injured in '05:5-59 1 TD4-446-68 1 TDWR coach likened him to Boldin early last season and showed some nice flashes before his injury (Note that WR coach was with Arz in Boldin's rookie year). Fourth year after converting to WR from QB- could be a breakout year.Injuries are a concern.
Not even drafted by pick 225 according to FBG ADP. Mistake.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Here here. Battle was my boy last year in a start 3WR league, snagged him in the last round as a sleeper starter, and he was making me look genius until he got hurt.That said, I watched each of those SF games with an eye on him, and he looks like a real player on the field. Makes the tough catch in traffic, breaks traffic. I think Bolding comparisions are apt.
Best part is how the coaching staff use him, lots of end arounds, he throws a few passes. So you never know when he will be good for that "fluke" TD.
Considering there ain't no one else gonna catch passes in SF, if Battle is healthy for 16 games he easily lives up to undrafted ADP.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
On the Michael Clayton bandwagon. Willing to lead it for better or worse.
thanx Joe T,good thread... i actually didn't look at ADP... i think i'd rather take smith first, too... though if he looks great in training camp & pre-season, i'm sure he will attract interest... i vaguely was thinking that many have forgotten about him or written him off, but all it takes is one guy in a draft who likes him a lot to blow up his ADP (if there is one in almost every crowd)... he may be a guy where picks in actual drafts may range all over the place... as an average (ADP), approx half in the spectrum may well fall below ADP, so in some of those instances he is worth keeping an eye on...
it has been a few years removed from his rookie season, but winslow was called by some scouts the greatest TE prospect ever... i guess those that pull the trigger early are banking on that promise finally coming to fruition...
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I don't really get the Ryan Moats sleeper picks. The guy had a nice game against the Giants I'll give him that. And he had a nice RUN against the Rams. But then he literally fell off the map in the last two games. Once teams got game film on Moats he was totally exposed. IMO if Westbrook goes down the Eagles will simply throw the ball more and split the 20 times they run a game between like 3 or 4 players (Mahe, Perry, Tapeh, whoever). If Moats is lucky, he'll see MAYBE 10 carries a game and thats if he produces early in a game because Reid is rarely patient with the running game.
beto
Footballguy
Not sure I agree with you on the totally exposed part. Moats is a pretty natural runner but he lacks size. As a rookie, he's going to have games like the last 2. I believe he was still playing special teams in those games as well. He's one of those guys who could develop alot in his second year. Valid sleeper IMHO.
mightyeskimo
Footballguy
I hear a lot of love for Turner but will it be realized? Will the Chargers let him go after this year, the final year of his deal, as an RFA? The 5.9 ypc is very attractive but can he be as much of a monster as a starter as he is a backup?
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Verbal Kint
Footballguy
I'm liking a C-pep(rd6)/Volek(rd12+) draft combo with Volek starting out the year as insurance that Daunte isn't ready at the outset of the season.
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Your philosphy here is exactly what Andy Reid thought of his Rookie Rb last year. He did exactly what your saying last year.Moats was never a big name coming out of college becasue he played on a La Tech team who was aweful and was an undersized one man army despite every opponent stacking the box. When they played a stacked Miami defense 2 years ago Moats had 81 yards rushing at halftime on 11 carries despite 8 in the box.
If you have'nt seen him play for an extended period time in a game (he hasnt since had the chance since on the eagles) I dont expect most folks to understand. He has the "Quick Twich" that doesnt come along everyday and weighs more than Westbrook .
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