GoBirds
Footballguy
There are plenty of average at best football players that don’t create the most drama on the team.
Now he’s moving the location of the workout, go figure.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
So how many millions is Kaepernick going to win in his case vs the NFL? (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Judge Smails
- Start date
- Status
There are plenty of average at best football players that don’t create the most drama on the team.
Now he’s moving the location of the workout, go figure.
Some context might help rather than just throwing out names.
2013 was Kaepernick's first full year as a starter and threw for 3200 yards, 21 TDs and 8 INTs while adding 524 yds rushing and 4 more TDs.
2014 Sanchez played 8 games
2015 Kaep was injured
What's wrong with Tannehill? He looks more than fine on a team that isn't the Dolphins.
It's being moved because the NFL wouldn't let the media in. Somehow that's his fault?
There are plenty of average at best football players that don’t create the most drama on the team.
Now he’s moving the location of the workout, go figure.
GoBirds
Footballguy
This is true, in his last season he played want he only good enough to be Blaine Gabbert’s back up?
GoBirds
Footballguy
Sounds super committed to playing football and helping a team out. Besides publicity why would anyone touch this guy with 100’ pole? Constant drama.....teams want to win football games.
In his 11 starts in '16 he had thrown for 2200 yds, 16 TDs and 4 INT with another 460 yds rushing and 2 TDs. On a terrible team with Jeremy Kerley and Quinton Patton as his best WRs. Then he was benched.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Wrigley
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Don't know. They were terrible that year with Chip Kelly. Pretty sure they finished with 2 wins.
I take it more of "I have every reason not to trust the NFL and I'd like to have the media there" than anything else.
He seems to be right since the NFL won't let the media in.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
GoBirds
Footballguy
No I meant what I asked, do you not agree quarterback play significantly impacts the success of a team?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
workout live stream
https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/11/live-stream-of-colin-kaepernicks-atlanta-workout-video/
Sounds like Brice Butler, Bruce Ellington and two I didn't catch are there.
He's wearing a K unta Kinte shirt.
https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/11/live-stream-of-colin-kaepernicks-atlanta-workout-video/
Sounds like Brice Butler, Bruce Ellington and two I didn't catch are there.
He's wearing a K unta Kinte shirt.
Last edited by a moderator:
wgoldsph
Footballguy
I remember waiting for Ellington to break out. Best three years I ever wasted
Of course it does. A QB can play very well for a bad team, also.
That line of thinking is exactly how people blame Rivers for the Chargers terrible season so far while ignoring his RB holding out then coming back pretty poorly, multiple games without Mike Williams or Hunter Henry and four of his five starting lineman missing most of the year giving him about a second and a half before getting killed every play while his coaching staff continues to call mostly deep routes.
The 2 win season wasn't on Kaep, it was on Kelly.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Sounds like you will do anything you can to deflect blame for his poor results last time he had a job. Probably good news for you, can’t imagine they would set up this circus that no other player gets unless there is a team ready to bite.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
In your opinion, do you think there’s a better chance of Kap being better, worse or the same now since not suiting up for 3 yrs?
I don't care if he plays again or doesn't. I was here arguing against people making things up. He wasn't a bad QB no matter what you or anyone else would like to believe for whatever reason you want to believe it.
If he came back he'd most likely be no better than he was. Which, and this is the important part, is better than over half of the QBs signed to teams right now.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
64 guys have the starting or backup role. No way he's not better than at least a few of them.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Nobody disputes that, as far as I know. The relevant question is not "Is CK better than my current backup QB?" but "Is CK so much better than my current backup QB that he's worth taking the PR hit over it?" That takes a bunch of teams out of the market.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, a bunch. But not all. Just like any FA or draft pick it just takes one team to like you.
Wow! That’s 200 yards a game!
Or about what Mahomes does by halftime.
Theres no way if I were a GM I would sign Colin K.
Last edited by a moderator:
Mahomes isn't throwing the ball to Kerley and Patton, is he?
It's pretty much the same pace Lamar Jackson is at this year.
It's also pretty telling that you went straight to Mahomes in order to try and prove a nonexistant fact.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Man In The Box
Footballguy
The question isn’t if he’s better than my backup QB. He’s better than more than a few backups, assuming he’s still at the level he was when he last played.
The question should be “Does signing this guy help me win a Super Bowl?”
Because that’s the only way bringing him in along with all that comes with it makes sense for a team. Pretty sure the answer was, and still is, no. Hence why he hasn’t been on an NFL team in three years.
Nope. You’re wrong.
Kap was a backup level talent in 2016, is 3 years removed, and not worth the PR hit to be a backup.
Lamar 2019 76.2 QBR (ranked 12th)
9 starts, 2036 passing yards, 15 passing TDs, 702 rush yards, 6 rush TDs.
Kap 2016 QBR 55.2 (ranked 29th) & whatever stats you said.
Last edited by a moderator:
Yenrub
Footballguy
His QB rating that year (90.7) was 29th overall but if you exclude QB’s that played less than 10 games, he was 17th.
So middle of the pack for starting QB’s the last time he played
irish eyes
Footballguy
Yeah, this is what teams want. What a piece of Krap this guy is. For all you supporters, wake up.https://sports-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/colin-kaepernick-wore-controversial-t-232507334.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15739572052359&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fcolin-kaepernick-wore-controversial-t-232507334.html
A little bit of pissing in the fan here but Kaps 2016 QBR rating of 29th doesn’t have a QB ranked higher than him that started less than 11 games.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/passing.htm
If I use similar logic as you for Lamar Jackson 2019 YTD and exclude Brandon Allen (1 game), Matt Schaub (3 games) and Tannenhill (6 games), Lamar is actually 9th in QBR.
https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=PASSING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0&page=1
Bottom line Lamar Jackson >>> Kap.
Jackson 9th in QBR vs. Kap 29th in QBR.
Not a legit comparison at all.
Last edited by a moderator:
irish eyes
Footballguy
Keep talking about his stats from 3 years ago. Yeah very relevant, NOT.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
DJackson10
Footballguy
Typical. Plus the dude is a fraud himself. I've heard so many different people in the know say what a horrible teammate he was in SF. Entitlement, crying to the Yorks when Harbaugh tried to constructive criticism, sleeping with a teammates GF, late to practice/meetings, refusing to study the playbook, etc. It sounded like Vick 2.0 with the exception he wasn't running a dogfighting ring with his act. A few people told me teammates of his respected his decision but a lot of them and staff wished CK had gone to them first and explained what he was doing. His whole Social justice thing was a scam and the players coalition exposed it. Took his ball and went home and then slandered Malcolm Jenkins. Then his little buddy Eric Reid is signed and keeps talking #### about everyone and takes a cheap shot at Wentz. I'm all for what the players were fighting for but this clown is an easily manipulated fraud. No different then the people who cry racism when there is no racism.
I think someone said it best in here the other day. You can just wait until Mariota is available and sign the EXACT SAME PLAYER FOR LESS MONEY AND LESS DRAMA. Knew this thing was a sham from the start. I figured maybe the gold digging GF took all his money and this was a desperation Im sorry please sign me but then I forgot about that Clown Jay Z partnership with the NFL
boots11234
Footballguy
Good lord what a ########. Can you imagine wearing a shirt like that for an interview?
no way would I want this guy in my locker room.
Yenrub
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
People who do #### like this like he did make me chuckle when they ##### and moan and try to yell racism. Like really what did you expect the reaction to be. They can't have their cake and eat it too.
DJackson10
Footballguy
He's also not a great teammate from what I heard and this has nothing to do with his protest. There were a lot of other issues involving him
DJackson10
Footballguy
It's to help his GF and his agenda of the NFL doesn't want him playing because of his protesting. The sad part is stupid people are falling for this #### routinelybingo.
He wants elite money and a starting job. Only problem is he’s just not that good
Deep down he knows that and these ridiculous asks are a way of ensuring he doesn’t actually HAVE to play anymore.
irish eyes
Footballguy
wgoldsph
Footballguy
So he should have worn a suit and tie?
Don't get me wrong, this says "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME" which is the last thing I want in my locker room, but if he wore an "I'm with stupid" tshirt to throw a ball around in we wouldn't be having this conversation.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Guess you completely missed the news how Jay Z and the NFL made an agreement to get him the workout and Jay Z and how this is all a sham since Jay Z's talent org is now the main entertainer provider for the Super Bowl HT Show for now on.... But hey that doesn't fit the agenda
DJackson10
Footballguy
Or they are running a business and know what makes good business and what doesn't. They are in the business of making money not about Morales or anything. They'll play the game and stroke the fans who pay them the most. Not a few people with wool over their eyes believing this fraud
wgoldsph
Footballguy
I'm sorry but I don't see how Jay z getting Kap a workout means that he had to do it //right now this Saturday or never!//
Or maybe I just don't the connection between Jay z and kap at all cause all black people don't look alike to me?
DJackson10
Footballguy
It was moved because the NFL wasn't allowing an independent film crew do the practice. He was also asking for a ton of other stuff. The NFL gave him an opportunity thanks to his buddy Jay Z. Just appreciate you get the opportunity you asked for to begin with. He's just being paranoid
DJackson10
Footballguy
Good watching out there. It's why I try not to say a lot in these things and some stuff I want to say that can be construed into something it wasn't mean to be
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
- Status
Similar threads
