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In all seriousness, it requires learning.  Every day.  In order to be an effective restaurant manager, you should be capable of doing - and willing to do without feeling like it's "beneath" you - every single job in a restaurant.  When you're able to do anyone's job in that business well enough to get by, it gets you respect from those working for you because you know how to do what they do and speak their language, and it means you can fire someone/absorb someone quitting at any given moment and take his spot if you have to. 

 
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In all seriousness, it requires learning.  Every day.  In order to be an effective restaurant manager, you should be capable of doing - and willing to do without feeling like it's "beneath" you - every single job in a restaurant.  When you're able to do anyone's job in that business well enough to get by, it gets you respect from those working for you because you know how to do what they do and speak their language, and it means you can fire someone/absorb someone quitting at any given moment and take his spot if you have to. 
I can do that. One day I immediately look in to taking a course when I can afford it. Couldn't go for a degree because I have defaulted loans.

 
College isn't an option at this point in my life. Wasn't even in my early 20's since there isn't anything taught in college that interests me. 

From what hat I understand there are people that make a good living as a career server or bartender at high end restaurants. I may stick with this for a long while and would be interested in hearing how someone in that feild can retire. As of right now the only retirement plan I can think of is a bullet in the head once I'm old and my body breaks down.
Your ultimate move is going to be to open and fund an IRA/Roth IRA. That will serve as a 401(k) if your employer doesn't offer one. If they do, even better. Also key is going to be accruing equity in a home rather than renting and not sinking money into depreciating assets that you could otherwise invest. These are just basic bullet points, but the key is discipline and intelligent allocation of your income. 

 
I can do that. One day I immediately look in to taking a course when I can afford it. Couldn't go for a degree because I have defaulted loans.
You'll eventually want to transition to taking classes - maybe a degree in hospitality management - but it isn't necessary at this point in history.  It may be in 20 years. 

 
Transitioning to high-end restaurant management in your early-to-mid-40s is a good plan.  
Yes. Also will provide investment options for retirement, a fixed salary, etc. I have a buddy that flunked out of 3 schools but had tons of waiting experience. When he finally gave up on school, he went back to the restaurant game, worked as a server for a number of years, and is now the GM of a high-end joint in CT. He does just fine. 

 
Yes. Also will provide investment options for retirement, a fixed salary, etc. I have a buddy that flunked out of 3 schools but had tons of waiting experience. When he finally gave up on school, he went back to the restaurant game, worked as a server for a number of years, and is now the GM of a high-end joint in CT. He does just fine. 
You get hooked in with one of the national companies that own a lot of higher end but not insanely high end restaurants like RUI, it can be a ridiculously good living.

 
Your ultimate move is going to be to open and fund an IRA/Roth IRA. That will serve as a 401(k) if your employer doesn't offer one. If they do, even better. Also key is going to be accruing equity in a home rather than renting and not sinking money into depreciating assets that you could otherwise invest. These are just basic bullet points, but the key is discipline and intelligent allocation of your income. 
I didn't understand half of this.

I may have to marry an accountant one day.

 
This is definitely something to consider in the future if my art or writing doesn't go anywhere. I like working in restaurants. Typically no early mornings, fun people, good food and I stay busy and don't have to watch a clock all day.

 
This is definitely something to consider in the future if my art or writing doesn't go anywhere. I like working in restaurants. Typically no early mornings, fun people, good food and I stay busy and don't have to watch a clock all day.
Cool man. Sounds like it's off to a really good start. Does it seem like a good staff? Cool people? Any tasty babes? 

 
Everything is going well at work. I started taking orders and running my own tables. Last night I was working like a machine on crack and pretty much took charge of my entire section and left everyone in my dust which allowed the more experienced servers to lead other sections. Business is picking up and it looks like this place will start making some serious dough.


I'm on full time. Worked amshift Sunday. Doubles on Monday and yesterday and a PM shift Tuesday. Today I'm off but told them if they need amextra at dinner to call me and I'll be working at least one shift Friday-Sunday and I guess a double or two in that span.
Good for you, brother. Glad to hear things are going well. I have a newfound respect for you.

 
By the way, my son was actually hired by the owner of his present company after being the server at his regular table.  Guy loved that he was responsive, eloquent, good communicator, etc and said he would do great at this company.  So they talked and he hired him 2 days later.  You never know who you're waiting on so always give your best impression.  Great servers are awesome. Bad servers suck.  Be the former and who knows what will come your way.

 
I just want to say I really appreciate everyone offering constructive advice. I know my communication style seems very disrespectful. I would like to thank everyone individually but that would be ridiculous.

I don't think I would have turned my head around and and found where I am now without the FFA. That's why I've been here over a decade. I've read a ton of abuse but my heart always told me to stay for the real good eggs.

I know the restaurant isn't glamorous and I'm not making 7 figures like the businessmen and pro gamblers here but I'm happy. It's not about money for me right now I enjoy staying busy and contributing to a new business. 

I know its silly for a message board to mean to mean a lot to a persons self worth......but not everyone has a family or personal friends they can count on. My dream one day, if I can become successful as an artist and make a lot of money, is to give the FFA the best cornhole ever.

And that goes for the mods too. Who at times have been rough on me over the years but when I look back on it honestly I deserved to be punished for being such a child.

i apologize for being sappy. I am not usually so emotional but I'm in a transition period in my life.

From a non-personal perspective I can say one thing....just because it's the net you all have a tremendous influence. Good or bad it's something to think about.

 
For every RandyDB here, there are a lot of.... well, most of the others in this thread. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the best thanks (not that thanks are necessary) would be for you to be happy. People use the word "successful"  all the time to mean "wealthy,"  but happiness and fulfillment is the real currency in life. 

 
For every RandyDB here, there are a lot of.... well, most of the others in this thread. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the best thanks (not that thanks are necessary) would be for you to be happy. People use the word "successful"  all the time to mean "wealthy,"  but happiness and fulfillment is the real currency in life. 
And money.

 
For every RandyDB here, there are a lot of.... well, most of the others in this thread. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the best thanks (not that thanks are necessary) would be for you to be happy. People use the word "successful"  all the time to mean "wealthy,"  but happiness and fulfillment is the real currency in life. 
and health

 
and health
Hey smails 

As good as that hat looks on you I wanted to let you know I didn't take offense to the post a page ago. I understood where you were coming from. A place of well meaning but you are also honest. Which I appreciate. That's why I got slightly upset at first but didn't go nuts.

i think you are a good dude. 

 
For every RandyDB here, there are a lot of.... well, most of the others in this thread. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the best thanks (not that thanks are necessary) would be for you to be happy. People use the word "successful"  all the time to mean "wealthy,"  but happiness and fulfillment is the real currency in life. 
and sex

 
By, you know, volunteering. 
I've wanted to do it my entire life. Since I was a kid. I had a fantasy about becoming  wealthy and creating public works projects to provide jobs and just creating parks where the homeless could go just to feel different.

A few years ago I was homeless and even then, and times since, I felt like I was better than them. But I'm not.

in the last few years I realized how lucky I am just to be able to read and write, born handsome and athletic, with every advantage in life. I never thought about the other side. I often looked down on them even as I shared the same roof and I feel guilty about it.

I am doing nothing with my talents. One day I mightbut for now why can't I at least help others who don't have those gifts?

Ive never felt so big but also so small at the same time. I made a decision tonight to volunteer at a shelter. Serve food to the hungry and above all else talk to them like human beings. I think the best thing to do is just treat everyone like a human, good or bad, it means a lot.

ive cried about 4 times tonight thinking about what a pompous jerk I've been my whole life when I could have done so much more.

 
I'm thinking about volunteering to help the homeless. I'm not religious. How do atheists volunteer?
Just go volunteer, assuming this isn't the Keystone talking :lol:

Maybe just find a nonprofit that isn't affiliated with a church. I'm an atheist (or at least agnostic) as well and I've volunteered before. No one ever asked me about my religious views. 

 
All this on Keystone Light.  I've never had one.  Hmmm, I've got an idea.  You should google their ad agency and approach them with your story and the follow on ad campaign.  I can see it now:

"Keystone Light, the epiphany beer."

If it takes off I want 10% of your end.  For that, the slogan is yours.   

 
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All this on Keystone Light.  I've never had one.  Hmmm, I've got an idea.  You should google their ad agency and approach them with your story and the follow on ad campaign.  I can see it now:

"Keystone Light, the epiphany beer"

If it takes off I want 10% of your end.  For that, the slogan is yours.   
And they can play Heaven is a Place On Earth for the commercial. 

 
Cold lagered Truth

Reality check in a can.

We here at Keystone Light found that barley, hops, and water are unnecessarily expensive ingredients for brewing.  We found a way to capture free advice from the internet and to brew it into a refreshing libation that helps you come to terms with your own limitations.  We pass the savings we achieve on ingredients on to you, well mostly us, but also you. Yep, we serve Limitation Lager (copyright pending) and are sort of proud of it.

Our secret, its in the brewer's yeast.  We harvested ours from Pamela Anderson.  

 
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Just go volunteer, assuming this isn't the Keystone talking :lol:

Maybe just find a nonprofit that isn't affiliated with a church. I'm an atheist (or at least agnostic) as well and I've volunteered before. No one ever asked me about my religious views. 
Idk what was talking. I drank 2 keystone ice tallboys and 4 keystone light and I was  zipping

 
Idk what was talking. I drank 2 keystone ice tallboys and 4 keystone light and I was  zipping
Don't you work today?  I mean, far be it from me to be anyone's AA sponsor, but perhaps being in your first week on a new job, getting ####housed the night before you have to work isn't the best idea?  Maybe I'm wrong - I'm old now - at your age, I probably could have shaken it off and just gone to work. 

 
Just caught up on this thread. JFC, what do they put in this Keystone light? I may have to try it. 
Judging by flavor alone, alcohol and urine.  I used to drink this when I was in college and it was $9 a case.  I don't think I've had one since the early 90s.

 
Every time I check in on this thread, I picture EG as Mr. Miyagi, carefully and patiently cultivating bonsai while being ready to dole out universal wisdom at a moment's notice

 
Judging by flavor alone, alcohol and urine.  I used to drink this when I was in college and it was $9 a case.  I don't think I've had one since the early 90s.
With just about anyone else I'd question whether they had really tasted that. But you, I'm already convinced you did.

Now merely waiting for the epic tale 

:popcorn:

 
msommer said:
With just about anyone else I'd question whether they had really tasted that. But you, I'm already convinced you did.

Now merely waiting for the epic tale 

:popcorn:
I don't really have an epic tale surrounding Keystone, but one mildly amusing anecdote in which this beer does play a role.

Freshman year at college, my roommate and I are surprised with a routine inspection by the fire department.  We probably got notice that it was coming and I wiped my ### with it, I don't know.  I just remember not expecting it when we got a knock on the door and three people came in to search for violations.  First, we got socked with having a batting helmet over the smoke detector, 95% of our door and walls covered on all sides with magazine cutouts, "evidence of careless smoking," and an illegal hot plate, among other violations.  The fire marshal (or whoever TF he was) told us we had the most violations of any room he'd ever evaluated (woo hoo!)

The kicker was when they slid open the accordion-style doors to our closet and found a 3 foot Graffix bong and over 1,000 empty cans of Keystone.  They were flabbergasted - we had them stacked neatly about 35 across, 5 high, and 6-7 rows deep.  It took up the bulk of the closet - our clothes were largely in suitcases or on the floor.  Two of the firemen were laughing (one actually said : "Who TF drinks that much Keystone?) while the marshal, who was not laughing, made us drag every one of them out and start loading them into garbage bags.  Our RA was in the hallway looking like he'd seen a ghost.  As we got done packing them all up (along with the bong, which they confiscated,) I thought the closet was empty.  Then, I hear one of the firemen say : "Ohhhh, HERE'S our street sign !" and pull a metal street sign out of the closet.  The Rutgers-Busch Campus fire station was on a road called Titsworth Place.  Naturally, we'd gone out at 3 AM drunk one night and ripped the sign off the intersection and brought it back to our dorm.  They took that too.

 
Tin Cup said:
Every time I check in on this thread, I picture EG as Mr. Miyagi, carefully and patiently cultivating bonsai while being ready to dole out universal wisdom at a moment's notice
You restaurant do....yes.... or restaurant do...no.  You restaurant do... "guess so..."  *SQUISH*  Just like-a grape.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Don't you work today?  I mean, far be it from me to be anyone's AA sponsor, but perhaps being in your first week on a new job, getting ####housed the night before you have to work isn't the best idea?  Maybe I'm wrong - I'm old now - at your age, I probably could have shaken it off and just gone to work. 
I got through the AM shift no problem.

 

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