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So should Jacksonville rest their starters next week (wink, wink) (1 Viewer)

Jeff Haseley

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OK, yes that is a bit harsh and my statement was made in jest, but Pittsburgh has struggled recently and without Willie Parker, they are looking very average on offense and have lost three of their last four (counting today's no show against Baltimore). Granted two of those opponents were New England and Jacksonville, but still - Steelers fans are you worried? If not, I'll have what you're drinking.

 
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I think that's way overboard. Jags got their doors blown off in Houston today too.

Stillers definitely mailed one in today, but I guess you could say it's better to have the letdown this week than next.

 
As hard as it is to say this as a diehard fan, I think the Steelers are done. They have too many injuries and the offensive line is not very good. Honestly, I think they have benefited from a weak schedule. Without Roethlisberger's magic, the Steelers would be 6-10. Then again, their losses against Arizona, Denver, NY Jets, and Jax all came down to plays late in the game. But they really did not look that great in those games, even if they were close. HOWEVER...

...your assertion that Jacksonville should rest its starters next week is completely ridiculous. They would never even consider that. The Steelers would roll over them and then the Jags wouldn't have to worry about being healthy for New England. Not sure what you are drinking! No offense, just my opinion.

Edit to add: How can you say their O is very average without Parker? That's another unfounded assertion. We have only seen two games without him...one with the starters playing in which they pinned 41 on the Rams and the today's game with the backups playing.

 
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As hard as it is to say this as a diehard fan, I think the Steelers are done. They have too many injuries and the offensive line is not very good. Honestly, I think they have benefited from a weak schedule. Without Roethlisberger's magic, the Steelers would be 6-10. Then again, their losses against Arizona, Denver, NY Jets, and Jax all came down to plays late in the game. But they really did not look that great in those games, even if they were close. HOWEVER......your assertion that Jacksonville should rest its starters next week is completely ridiculous. They would never even consider that. The Steelers would roll over them and then the Jags wouldn't have to worry about being healthy for New England. Not sure what you are drinking! No offense, just my opinion.Edit to add: How can you say their O is very average without Parker? That's another unfounded assertion. We have only seen two games without him...one with the starters playing in which they pinned 41 on the Rams and the today's game with the backups playing.
Ceisenhower66 - I was only joking about that comment of JAC resting their starters. I edited my original post to reflect that now. Some teams are entering the playoffs on a high, while others are not. Pittsburgh is at the front of the line of teams that are not, IMO.
 
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LOL, oops sorry! I totally took the bait. Can you tell this game is annoying me even if it is somewhat meaningless?

In seriousness, I do think the Steelers are done, for the reasons I outlined. I think they will be able to put points up against Jacksonville through the air. However, I do not see them stopping the Jags' running game, nor do I see them being able to run the ball that well on offense. Jags 31-24. I hope I'm wrong.

 
OK, yes that is a bit harsh and my statement was made in jest, but Pittsburgh has struggled recently and without Willie Parker, they are looking very average on offense and have lost three of their last four (counting today's no show against Baltimore). Granted two of those opponents were New England and Jacksonville, but still - Steelers fans are you worried? If not, I'll have what you're drinking.
As a Steeler fan, I'm much much more disturbed about the Steelers defense than I am the offense. Yes...Jacksonville SHOULD win next week with ease but you know very well that anything is possible in the NFL.
 
Without their main three offensive weapons and two key olinemen the Jags were able to still put up 4 scores. Gray looked awesome today as did Matt Jones- for once.

Pittsburgh fans can rest easy knowing that they won't be going to Mass in two weeks. The Jags are a force and might just be the most complete team in the NFL at this point in the season.

Break out the teal baby :thumbup:

 
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Without their main three offensive weapons and two key olinemen the Jags were able to still put up 4 scores. Gray looked awesome today as did Matt Jones- for once. Pittsburgh fans can rest easy knowing that they won't be going to Mass in two weeks. The Jags are a force and might just be the most complete team in the NFL at this point in the season.Break out the teal baby :thumbup:
Pretty much. I'm honestly almost embarrassed that the Steelers are going to the playoffs. At this point, the Browns are much more worthy of the playoff spot and would definitely give Jacksonville a better game.
 
I think that's way overboard. Jags got their doors blown off in Houston today too.

Stillers definitely mailed one in today, but I guess you could say it's better to have the letdown this week than next.
They did sit their weapons for the entire game though.
 
I think Jax looks great right now. They are a complete team hitting their stride right on time. However, there seems to be way too many people on their bandwagon. They may mow through the Steelers in a physical battle next week, but they don't stand a chance against NE and Indy. Put it on the board.

 
I think the Steelers/JAX will be the best game next weekend. It's gonna be a very physical type of football which people like me like a lot.

 
fred_1_15301 said:
Jiggyonthehut said:
Without their main three offensive weapons and two key olinemen the Jags were able to still put up 4 scores. Gray looked awesome today as did Matt Jones- for once. Pittsburgh fans can rest easy knowing that they won't be going to Mass in two weeks. The Jags are a force and might just be the most complete team in the NFL at this point in the season.Break out the teal baby :thumbup:
Pretty much. I'm honestly almost embarrassed that the Steelers are going to the playoffs. At this point, the Browns are much more worthy of the playoff spot and would definitely give Jacksonville a better game.
Embarrassed? Come on now, let's not put too much stock in today's game. The Browns are not that good. They didn't beat anyone of consequence this season. And they looked like crap last week against Cincinnati and didn't exactly light up SF today.
 
fred_1_15301 said:
Jiggyonthehut said:
Without their main three offensive weapons and two key olinemen the Jags were able to still put up 4 scores. Gray looked awesome today as did Matt Jones- for once. Pittsburgh fans can rest easy knowing that they won't be going to Mass in two weeks. The Jags are a force and might just be the most complete team in the NFL at this point in the season.Break out the teal baby :lmao:
Pretty much. I'm honestly almost embarrassed that the Steelers are going to the playoffs. At this point, the Browns are much more worthy of the playoff spot and would definitely give Jacksonville a better game.
Embarrassed? Come on now, let's not put too much stock in today's game. The Browns are not that good. They didn't beat anyone of consequence this season. And they looked like crap last week against Cincinnati and didn't exactly light up SF today.
Why not put a lot of stock in today's game? Their first team defense played the entire game and got lit up by a team who lost to the dolphins 2 weeks ago? The Steelers offense will keep them in any game but their defense is giving up yards in huge chunks right now. Cleveland is more worthy of the playoff spot....
 
ceisenhower66 said:
I think Jax looks great right now. They are a complete team hitting their stride right on time. However, there seems to be way too many people on their bandwagon. They may mow through the Steelers in a physical battle next week, but they don't stand a chance against NE and Indy. Put it on the board.
:lmao: A complete team that is hitting their stride doesn't stand a chance to compete in any given game?
 
I don't think the Steelers look very motivated today in this mostly meaningless game. I'm sure they didn't think SD was going to lose. That's just my opinion. And that's why I am not putting much stock in this.

Yes, I know most of the defensive starters were in for the first half. However, missing Polamalu means a lot (ditto for Aaron Smith). Plus Willie Reid is not going to be returning kicks in the playoffs. They got off to a bad start. They will bring their intense A game next week, don't worry.

Why is Cleveland more worthy? Please provide some supporting evidence...

 
ceisenhower66 said:
I think Jax looks great right now. They are a complete team hitting their stride right on time. However, there seems to be way too many people on their bandwagon. They may mow through the Steelers in a physical battle next week, but they don't stand a chance against NE and Indy. Put it on the board.
:lmao: A complete team that is hitting their stride doesn't stand a chance to compete in any given game?
Ok, so maybe I exaggerated. They stand a chance due to their completeness and the hot streak they are on. However, I think NE and Indy are far superior to any other teams in the NFL. I don't think anyone will beat either of them until they play in the championship game.
 
I don't think the Steelers look very motivated today in this mostly meaningless game. I'm sure they didn't think SD was going to lose. That's just my opinion. And that's why I am not putting much stock in this.Yes, I know most of the defensive starters were in for the first half. However, missing Polamalu means a lot (ditto for Aaron Smith). Plus Willie Reid is not going to be returning kicks in the playoffs. They got off to a bad start. They will bring their intense A game next week, don't worry.Why is Cleveland more worthy? Please provide some supporting evidence...
The Steelers will be missing Aaron Smith next week as well. Ever since they lost him, their run defense has become a sieve. I can't really speak much for Cleveland and maybe it's the frustration talking but the Steelers really can't stop anyone on defense anymore. Their offense is still potent and probably as good as Cleveland's but at this point I'm not sure the Steeler's defense is even as good as Cleveland's. Also, they haven't brought their "A game" in over 5 weeks so what makes you think they can all of a sudden turn on the switch next week? Perhaps this is their "A game"?
 
Mr. Brownstone said:
JaxBill said:
I think that's way overboard. Jags got their doors blown off in Houston today too.

Stillers definitely mailed one in today, but I guess you could say it's better to have the letdown this week than next.
They did sit their weapons for the entire game though.
Absolutely. My point was that I wouldn't put much stock in either game. Steelers rested Ben and Hines Ward. I agree with some of the defensive worries about the Stillers though. They really miss that DE that went down.
 
Mr. Brownstone said:
JaxBill said:
I think that's way overboard. Jags got their doors blown off in Houston today too.

Stillers definitely mailed one in today, but I guess you could say it's better to have the letdown this week than next.
They did sit their weapons for the entire game though.
Absolutely. My point was that I wouldn't put much stock in either game. Steelers rested Ben and Hines Ward. I agree with some of the defensive worries about the Stillers though. They really miss that DE that went down.
Yeah, I'm not putting much into what either team did today.
 
I agree with your points. Losing Smith was the biggest blow of all...bigger than losing Parker. The defense has been terrible the last five weeks, no doubt about that.

I just don't think Cleveland is better...maybe I am biased. Again, Cleveland really hasn't beaten anyone worthwhile this season and they've struggled the last five weeks as well.

I hope this isn't their A game. Like I said, I think they will lose to Jacksonville. But it's not going to be a rout and I don't think Cleveland would give the Jags a better game.

 
I agree with your points. Losing Smith was the biggest blow of all...bigger than losing Parker. The defense has been terrible the last five weeks, no doubt about that.I just don't think Cleveland is better...maybe I am biased. Again, Cleveland really hasn't beaten anyone worthwhile this season and they've struggled the last five weeks as well.I hope this isn't their A game. Like I said, I think they will lose to Jacksonville. But it's not going to be a rout and I don't think Cleveland would give the Jags a better game.
You're probably right. The Steelers won't get blown away next week because Ben will keep them in any game. Their offense doesn't worry me that much even with the loss of Parker because they'll be riding Ben's arm regardless. The loss of Smith worries me a lot. They do not match up at all with Jacksonville.
 
Yeah, I agree. Ben will do a lot, but come up short. That's why I was hoping for a miracle with Oakland beating SD so the Steelers could draw Cleveland or Tennessee. They just don't match up with Jacksonville. Hell, they couldn't beat them at home in the snow...

 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.

 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
I'm curious as to why you think that the Jaguars will be crushed by the Steelers. I'd like to know more about your hunch.
 
I think today shows one thing. Even the best of defenses cannot stop the Troy Smith - Musa Smith - Devard Darling juggernaut. :unsure:

 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
I'm curious as to why you think that the Jaguars will be crushed by the Steelers. I'd like to know more about your hunch.
More about his hunch? The poster's name is 'Pittsburgh United.' What more would you need to know? :unsure:
 
Jeff Haseley said:
OK, yes that is a bit harsh and my statement was made in jest, but Pittsburgh has struggled recently and without Willie Parker, they are looking very average on offense and have lost three of their last four (counting today's no show against Baltimore). Granted two of those opponents were New England and Jacksonville, but still - Steelers fans are you worried? If not, I'll have what you're drinking.
I recognize your commentary here as a minor jab, and with a wink wink, you did well alerting everyone so that they wouldnt take it too seriously. Having said that, I like how the Steelers approached their game today with Baltimore. Jacksonville did pretty much the same, resting Taylor, Jones-Drew and Garrard. Neither really had much to play for, and thus they approached it as somewhat of a bye week to rest some guys and get healthy. Smart move, imo. I dont size the Steelers up as a team that fears anyone. I dont think they really care whether they play Jacksonville or Cleveland, and I dont think theyre a team thats get too far ahead of themselves to consider who theyd potentially play in round 2. But I'll say this. I believe it will be a tall order to expect Jacksonville to go back in to face Pittsburgh, a seasoned, veteran team, with strong home support and proven playoff success and try to conquer that team for a second time in a month. Pittsburgh has lost significant players. But Jacksonville has no recent history of playoff success. And until they can prove they can go into a place like Pittsburgh a win a playoff game, I just cant buy the hype. But it should be a tremendous game.
 
Discount **** Lebeau if you dare.- A Patriots fan
:thumbup: Don't forget 2 years ago that the Steelers got lit up like a Christmas tree by the Colts on Monday night, then went into Indy as a heavy 'dog and took it to the Colts in the playoffs. I actually feel better about beating Jax than I would have had they not played two weeks ago, LeBeau will make adjustments to slow that offense down. Make Garrard beat you with his arm - guy has 0 playoff experience. It could go either way, but anyone discounting the Steelers' chances is foolish.
 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
Because, as EG72 said, Lebeau will make adjustments based on what we saw a couple weeks ago. There's no way they have the same success against our D this time around. Lebeau is too good of a D coach to let that happen. The Jags are being overhyped right now. Every year there is that one media darling team, that sexy pick. Usually, they are revealed to be nothing more than hype. This year, the Jags are that team. Word on the street is that Pittsburgh will put 8 in the box all day, stuff the run, and make Garrard show if he can beat them. I haven't seen enough from him in his career (though he is definitely a good QB) to think he can do that. I will take my chances with the proven Steelers D.And on top of all that, as someone else mentioned, all you really need to know is: :lmao: :thumbup:
 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
Because, as EG72 said, Lebeau will make adjustments based on what we saw a couple weeks ago. There's no way they have the same success against our D this time around. Lebeau is too good of a D coach to let that happen. The Jags are being overhyped right now. Every year there is that one media darling team, that sexy pick. Usually, they are revealed to be nothing more than hype. This year, the Jags are that team. Word on the street is that Pittsburgh will put 8 in the box all day, stuff the run, and make Garrard show if he can beat them. I haven't seen enough from him in his career (though he is definitely a good QB) to think he can do that. I will take my chances with the proven Steelers D.And on top of all that, as someone else mentioned, all you really need to know is: :homer: :football:
The problem is so much Garrard as it is the Jags receiving corps, which is, in a word, god-awful.Dennis Northcutt, a journeyman, is far and away their best receiver.Stop the run, stop the Jags.On offense, spread em out and let Ben light em up. He's more than capable.I like the Steelers by 17 in this game.
 
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
Because, as EG72 said, Lebeau will make adjustments based on what we saw a couple weeks ago. There's no way they have the same success against our D this time around. Lebeau is too good of a D coach to let that happen. The Jags are being overhyped right now. Every year there is that one media darling team, that sexy pick. Usually, they are revealed to be nothing more than hype. This year, the Jags are that team. Word on the street is that Pittsburgh will put 8 in the box all day, stuff the run, and make Garrard show if he can beat them. I haven't seen enough from him in his career (though he is definitely a good QB) to think he can do that. I will take my chances with the proven Steelers D.And on top of all that, as someone else mentioned, all you really need to know is: :devil: :hophead:
The problem is so much Garrard as it is the Jags receiving corps, which is, in a word, god-awful.Dennis Northcutt, a journeyman, is far and away their best receiver.Stop the run, stop the Jags.On offense, spread em out and let Ben light em up. He's more than capable.I like the Steelers by 17 in this game.
:lmao:
 
Jiggyonthehut said:
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
Because, as EG72 said, Lebeau will make adjustments based on what we saw a couple weeks ago. There's no way they have the same success against our D this time around. Lebeau is too good of a D coach to let that happen. The Jags are being overhyped right now. Every year there is that one media darling team, that sexy pick. Usually, they are revealed to be nothing more than hype. This year, the Jags are that team. Word on the street is that Pittsburgh will put 8 in the box all day, stuff the run, and make Garrard show if he can beat them. I haven't seen enough from him in his career (though he is definitely a good QB) to think he can do that. I will take my chances with the proven Steelers D.And on top of all that, as someone else mentioned, all you really need to know is: :homer: :rant:
The problem is so much Garrard as it is the Jags receiving corps, which is, in a word, god-awful.Dennis Northcutt, a journeyman, is far and away their best receiver.Stop the run, stop the Jags.On offense, spread em out and let Ben light em up. He's more than capable.I like the Steelers by 17 in this game.
:lmao:
:thumbup:
 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I too am disappointed with the way the Steelers have been playing, and I don't expect them to go too deep in the playoffs. However, I think they're going to crush Jacksonville next week. Call it a hunch.
Because, as EG72 said, Lebeau will make adjustments based on what we saw a couple weeks ago. There's no way they have the same success against our D this time around. Lebeau is too good of a D coach to let that happen. The Jags are being overhyped right now. Every year there is that one media darling team, that sexy pick. Usually, they are revealed to be nothing more than hype. This year, the Jags are that team. Word on the street is that Pittsburgh will put 8 in the box all day, stuff the run, and make Garrard show if he can beat them. I haven't seen enough from him in his career (though he is definitely a good QB) to think he can do that. I will take my chances with the proven Steelers D.And on top of all that, as someone else mentioned, all you really need to know is: :lmao: :hifive:
The problem is so much Garrard as it is the Jags receiving corps, which is, in a word, god-awful.Dennis Northcutt, a journeyman, is far and away their best receiver.Stop the run, stop the Jags.On offense, spread em out and let Ben light em up. He's more than capable.I like the Steelers by 17 in this game.
Wow it's funny seeing people predict the Steelers in a rout. What makes anyone think the Steelers can win this game in a rout? This is not the same Steelers team that we've seen in the past and they're not even the same team we saw over the first half of the season. Bottom line....the Steelers have not played like a playoff team in the second half and quite honestly they've been playing like one of the worst teams in the league. Their defense is average at this point (without Smith and possibly Polamalu). They're not getting any pressure on the qb, cannot stop the run and their secondary is now showing its mediocrity. Their offensive line is horrific and now Trei Essex is starting at left tackle. Good luck this week Ben!!! They lost the leading rusher in the NFL. Finally, their special teams is atrocious. Just because the Steelers are historically a smash mouth team, what makes people think this team right now is like that? The more and more I think about this, Jacksonville should win this easily. The Steelers will need a flurry of mistakes by the Jaguars offense to pull this one off. With the Pitt Panthers basketball team losing two of their top players to injuries, I think Pittsburgh is just snake bit right now....
 
I figure Jacksonville to win by 7, but them being Jacksonville, Big Ben could pull this out. Not to take away from the Jags,

but they never finish a real good team. They let them stay around late, and Big Ben could take advantage of that, this time around.

 

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