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So Will the real Rex Grossman, Please Stand Up. (1 Viewer)

DaTruth

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But, I think the guy we saw prior to the Monday Night Game is the real deal. This seemed to be the first time where they had to try and force a comeback so he was throwing deep ball after deep ball and the Arizona Safties were sitting back there waiting for it. I think Rex will bounce back nicely after the Bye Week. This would be teh time to buy low on Grossman. His value won't drop anymore.

DaTruth

 
Could you please point out one NFL QB that never had a bad game? Good grief, it is impossible for throw for 300 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs every game for your entire career.

 
You got me all wrong. I'm agreeing with you. I'm targeting Grossman in my main league. I think his value is low enough where i can scoop him up from another owner. Rexxy is gonna be fine.

DaTruth

 
I don't know. In the games this season prior to Monday's he shined. In games prior to this season, he's played a lot like Monday's. If the Cardinals exposed how to rattle his cage the Bears O may come back to earth with a quickness.

 
I don't know. In the games this season prior to Monday's he shined. In games prior to this season, he's played a lot like Monday's. If the Cardinals exposed how to rattle his cage the Bears O may come back to earth with a quickness.
:goodposting: Football is a game of adjustments. The Cards obviously watched film and figured out the reason for Grossmans success and took that away from him. He stubbornly kept trying to do the same thing time after time with the same results. The Bears will watch the film and point out what they were doing and how to counteract that. We'll see how Grossman responds and adjusts to their new found passing game over the next couple weeks. One thing that scares me about the Grossman situation that he can't control is the weather late in the season. Chicago is a tough place to play in winter and as the cold weather approaches I could see them taking some air out of the ball and trying to move it on the ground....
 
Prior to Monday Night, I'd been waiting for the "real" Rex Grossman to arrive.

The wait is over.

He certainly won't be as bad in most games as he was Monday, but he'll more likely be closer to the middle, mediocre, if you will, the rest of the way.

 
I expect he will be somewhere in between but more on the beginning of the season side. It certainly looks like he loves the long ball to Berrian and he will keep trying it no matter what the game situation is. Also seems like he may have trouble playing from behind, but since the Bears figure to be leading in most games (thanks to their ridiculous D and special teams), he will probably put up decent numbers. I would not expect 300 yard games every week. I figure he will average around 240 and a TD or 2.

 
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Prior to Monday Night, I'd been waiting for the "real" Rex Grossman to arrive. The wait is over.He certainly won't be as bad in most games as he was Monday, but he'll more likely be closer to the middle, mediocre, if you will, the rest of the way.
It cracks me up, how Grossman can play in 13 games total and in 6 games this year, play 4 good to great, 1 poor to mediocre, and 1 horrible and anybody can know what kind of QB he is going to be. There just isn't enough evidence, either way yet.
 
the real one did show up. This guy did nothing before this year in the NFL. He's a risk taking gunslinger who will occassionaly have a big game. But, other than that, he will stink it up more often than not

 
the real one did show up. This guy did nothing before this year in the NFL. He's a risk taking gunslinger who will occassionaly have a big game. But, other than that, he will stink it up more often than not
:lmao: :lmao: He played in a whole 7 games before this year.
He's a risk taking gunslinger
No doubt about that, he is also young and does not have allot of experience, the Bears need to calm him down a bit.
 
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The key that the Cardinals found was that you can not allow Grossman time to look down field. If you put pressure on him, you can force him to make poor decision and/or poor throws that result in INT's and fumbles. Up to MNF the Bear O-line protected him very well and gave him time. It seemed to me in watching those games the D's were constantly worried about the running game breaking them that they did not take the pass rush seriously or could not get to him if they did.

If teams can pressure him and force him to sling them up there, he will struggle. If he has time, he should do well as he has.

If you look at the Bear schedule you will see plenty of teams that are on the lower end of the NFL spectrum. Most without dominant pass rush D's. This bodes well for Grossman. Also, expect Lovie to establish the run again to keep the D's honest and worried about the run game as I believe the teams were in the first couple of games. If they can do this, this will allow Grossman to do what he has done in the first part of the season leading up the the MNF meltdown.

 
I would expect more of the beginning of the year Rex then the MNF game. He just missed Berrian deep on the first play. Berrian was wide open and was overthrown. The Bears O this year had made that happen so often. If they get that play they are off and running and the game becomes like previous games. Rex settles down, they play from ahead, mix in some runs and passes and they roll like the first 5 games.

I think he just missed another long td pass in the early game as well.

It was a trap game. MN vs a "pushover" AZ team before the bye week. One bad game does not ruin a guys season.

With SF, Miami, NYG and the Jets coming up, I like him to return to form. Giants may be tough, as will NE but then comes Minn and STL. I Like it

 
I did not like what I saw. A gunslinger who made horrible reads and threw into 3 on one coverages. Guaranteed his swagger has slowed, and the Bears will realize that they want him to not LOSE games, instead of forcing wins. With that defense, they can win by running the ball and not turning it over. He'll still take deep shots to Berrian to stretch defenses, but I bet the reigns are on him for good now.

 
It cracks me up that people think they can predict a guy's future based on less than one season's worth of games. Slow down folks, it takes QBs a little time to develop. Even the best QBs throw up a clunker every now and then.

 
It cracks me up that people think they can predict a guy's future based on less than one season's worth of games. Slow down folks, it takes QBs a little time to develop. Even the best QBs throw up a clunker every now and then.
Its cool everyone knows Rex is the best. Thanks
 
Grossman will finish top 5.

He has the goods above the neck, the defense, the OL and a pair of solid WR's and a running game that will get better. The kid has a very good arm ( he can make all the throws) and I expect will be a very productive QB. There is a reason the Bears waited on him. They know much better than we as far as what he is capable of doing. He had a ton of pressure and had a bad game. He just needs to improve his pocket presence and get a better feeling of the rush, and that comes from playing more and more. He has not played a lot till this season.

His teammates are totaly behind him and play for him. Rex Grossman has arrived as a very good NFL QB.

If people are going to sit and say how great leinart looked in his first start and that he is the real deal etc etc etc ( I also like Matt a ton as well) then you can say after seeing Grossman play 6 games he has the goods.

 
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Grossman will finish top 5. He has the goods above the neck, the defense, the OL and a pair of solid WR's and a running game that will get better. The kid has a very good arm ( he can make all the throws) and I expect will be a very productive QB. There is a reason the Bears waited on him. They know much better than we as far as what he is capable of doing. He had a ton of pressure and had a bad game. He just needs to improve his pocket presence and get a better feeling of the rush, and that comes from playing more and more. He has not played a lot till this season.His teammates are totaly behind him and play for him. Rex Grossman has arrived as a very good NFL QB.If people are going to sit and say how great leinart looked in his first start and that he is the real deal etc etc etc ( I also like Matt a ton as well) then you can say after seeing Grossman play 6 games he has the goods.
Are you related to him or just own him on your fantasy team?
 
obviously no one knows what he'll be yet, because he is so young in his career, so there's really no need to argue about it a whole lot ...

in my opinion, he's a gunslinger. he's capable of having a 4td game like he did against detroit, and he's capable of getting stomped on like he did monday night @ arizona. at this point, his style allows for either to happen.

i see one of two things happening:

1) after the monday night crap-fest, they shift their gameplan to a more conservative attack. you'll see less of the extremes, and probably more consistent play ... 215 yards, 1.5ish tds per game. he'll still put up some numbers because the defense will give him that chance.

2) they let him air it out, but kick him in the ### a few times and tell him to try to be smarter about it. he'll have more extremes in terms of tds & interceptions in that case ...

either way, i don't see him staying top 5 in passing yards, because i think the Bears will be running the football more from this point on. it's a joke that they've been running it so little and so poorly, and i'm willing to bet that's gonna change.

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The real Rex Grossman is somewhere in between the MNF performance and he past performance this year. I have seen 3 or 4 bear games this year and he always seems to be throwing off balance and taking way too many chances. The play calling seemed strange to me as well. Why not run the ball just a little bit more instead of trying to let Rex Grossman win the game for you. It seems to me that the running game was their strength last year and they got just a little to pass happy last game. The D line of Arizona was knocking a lot of passes down due to the fact that they finally caught on to the quick drop Rex has been using thus far this year. They will need to mix their playcalling up a bit more, and commit to the run if they want to go far into the playoffs this year IMO.

 
obviously no one knows what he'll be yet, because he is so young in his career, so there's really no need to argue about it a whole lot ...in my opinion, he's a gunslinger. he's capable of having a 4td game like he did against detroit, and he's capable of getting stomped on like he did monday night @ arizona. at this point, his style allows for either to happen.i see one of two things happening:1) after the monday night crap-fest, they shift their gameplan to a more conservative attack. you'll see less of the extremes, and probably more consistent play ... 215 yards, 1.5ish tds per game. he'll still put up some numbers because the defense will give him that chance.2) they let him air it out, but kick him in the ### a few times and tell him to try to be smarter about it. he'll have more extremes in terms of tds & interceptions in that case ...either way, i don't see him staying top 5 in passing yards, because i think the Bears will be running the football more from this point on. it's a joke that they've been running it so little and so poorly, and i'm willing to bet that's gonna change. :2cents:
:goodposting: I think it was clear what happened to Grossman on Monday night: he felt he was going to have the same big game on a national stage that he'd been having in previous weeks. He came out gunning and missed an open Berrian. The Bears got behind and Grossman was too eager to make up for what he probably felt should have been a majestic TD pass. And the harder he tried to play catch up and get the 21-point lead he'd grown accustomed to, the worse things got for him. He showed a lot of immaturity Monday night. He's got two weeks to think about his performance. I think the way he returns from this setback will speak volumes as to his future value. The ball is in his hands.
 
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Grossman will finish top 5. He has the goods above the neck, the defense, the OL and a pair of solid WR's and a running game that will get better. The kid has a very good arm ( he can make all the throws) and I expect will be a very productive QB. There is a reason the Bears waited on him. They know much better than we as far as what he is capable of doing. He had a ton of pressure and had a bad game. He just needs to improve his pocket presence and get a better feeling of the rush, and that comes from playing more and more. He has not played a lot till this season.His teammates are totaly behind him and play for him. Rex Grossman has arrived as a very good NFL QB.If people are going to sit and say how great leinart looked in his first start and that he is the real deal etc etc etc ( I also like Matt a ton as well) then you can say after seeing Grossman play 6 games he has the goods.
Are you related to him or just own him on your fantasy team?
Both. :P I drafted him in the last round of a few dynasty drafts and picked him up on waivers last year in another. I believe in him and feel he is a great talent. What's wrong with that?
 
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Grossman will do fine the rest of the year - his opposition is week. Is he a top 3 QB like he was the first 5 weeks- probably not. Is he a bottom 5 QB like he was last week - I don't think so. I think he will fall somewhere between 8-14 (which considering where he was drafted is EXCELLENT). If he does better, great. But the fact is that he was targeted as a 20-25 QB at the beginning of the season (if not worse).

I have only three concerns:

1) As we get into the colder months, I suspect the Bears will run the ball more.

2) It did not appear that Grossman or Ron Turner adjsted very well. Why go for the homerun on every throw like they appeared to do against AZ. Someone should have told Rex that it is ok to throw a 5 yard pass to a back or safety valve. He just kept pressing for the homerun. They will need to adjust better.

3) And then there is always the injury bug. Not really a concern because its not as if the injuries Rex suffered were minor so as to suggest he's fragile, but because its happened in the past it does make you think.

 
Grossman played like crap in his first playoff game but rebounded to get the Bears back in the game and was a couple plays away from putting the game in overtime. He played like crap for most of the Viking game and yet calmly completed the passes to take the lead at the end of the game. Arizona was his worst game ever but he remained confident during the game and was apologetic yet upbeat after the game.

I have no doubt he will rebound.

Note: I posted most of this reply in another Bear thread

 

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