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Good luck with that.
GB having a woman who works hard, makes bank, and would be just fine if I got laid off, quit, died, etc.

Good luck with that.
GB having a woman who works hard, makes bank, and would be just fine if I got laid off, quit, died, etc.
Cut her off. That'll show her!We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
I'm thinking the frequency is be used to keep the spending up :mergewithusingsechsasaweaponthread:Cut her off. That'll show her!We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
You do if you're picking up the tab for 4 women who like to go to nice restaurants and drink. A couple of drinks a piece at a decent place and the alcohol alone is costing $100. I highly doubt they're drinking Miller Lite from the bottle.'Sweet J said:$800/week is $100 a day, EVERY day, for four months? Something is not right. You don't go through money like that by "picking up the tabs" for friends. Unless she is doing it every. single. day.
Something is amiss. I would add the fact that your wife flips out when you even mention it, and . . . well, something is not right here.
I have no idea what the "something" is. But there is something else here. You gotta find it out, man. Stat.
Sweet Jesus, that changes everything. You have sex 4/5 times a week? And you've been married 9 years? Screw you buddy, I wish I had your "problems." Let your wife spend whatever she wants, dummy. I think I'd let her drown my dog if it got me sex 4/5 times a week.We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
Sweet Jesus, that changes everything. You have sex 4/5 times a week? And you've been married 9 years? Screw you buddy, I wish I had your "problems." Let your wife spend whatever she wants, dummy. I think I'd let her drown my dog if it got me sex 4/5 times a week.We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
Sweet Jesus, that changes everything. You have sex 4/5 times a week? And you've been married 9 years? Screw you buddy, I wish I had your "problems." Let your wife spend whatever she wants, dummy. I think I'd let her drown my dog if it got me sex 4/5 times a week.We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
12 years. But it feels like five minutes.Underwater.Sweet Jesus, that changes everything. You have sex 4/5 times a week? And you've been married 9 years? Screw you buddy, I wish I had your "problems." Let your wife spend whatever she wants, dummy. I think I'd let her drown my dog if it got me sex 4/5 times a week.We still wrestle 4-5 times/week.Married 9 years and I am still all over that.and we'll need some visual proofOK, let's cut to the chase. If she's running through cash like this and not working, yet you don't want to leave her, she has to be a real hellcat in the sack?![]()
How Long you hitched, Sweet??
No offense, but that's beyond stupid. That's childish immature behavior.I feel your pain. We have $730 in credit card paymentsa month.
Wait till you catch up.No offense, but that's beyond stupid. That's childish immature behavior.I feel your pain. We have $730 in credit card paymentsa month.
This was my wife. She has the "keeping up with the Joneses" syndrome it sounds like. She got three warnings and I took her off the bank accounts. She opened credit cards (but with no bank accounts had like $500 limits) that she maxed but couldn't pay for. Eventually, she learned and decided it was better to work WITH me on this stuff. She now has the check card back, but I still watch things very closely. It took putting her credit in the pooper and having credit agencies calling her before she "got it". YMMV.A large chunk is nothing more than the daily lunches with friends.They can never go somewhere normal.. you would never find them at Chili's. She spends $50+ on these lunches easily. When she isn't working these lunches include wine/margaritas, etc... runs up the tab real quick.What the hell is she buying?
ALSO - she somehow feels the need to pick up the tab for the others quite often. When I see this, we have the sweetest little arguments.
Damn...didn't even look at the dates of the threadHey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
yep, she is banging the surgeon friend.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
yep, she is banging the surgeon friend.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
Well, WTF. At least make your update believable. Oh, woe is me, my life is so friggin great and perfect. Throw us normal folks a bone and at least say she doesn't put out anymore. Have some class, guy.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
I have been reflecting on my life a lot lately, and have decided I owe all of this to my parents forcing me into tennis at age 13. High School tennis team becomes my circle of friends. Several from tennis team end up being best friends through college.Well, WTF. At least make your update believable. Oh, woe is me, my life is so friggin great and perfect. Throw us normal folks a bone and at least say she doesn't put out anymore. Have some class, guy.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
Great, now you are just throwing in loving and supportive parents who are always looking out for you...I have been reflecting on my life a lot lately, and have decided I owe all of this to my parents forcing me into tennis at age 13. High School tennis team becomes my circle of friends. Several from tennis team end up being best friends through college.Well, WTF. At least make your update believable. Oh, woe is me, my life is so friggin great and perfect. Throw us normal folks a bone and at least say she doesn't put out anymore. Have some class, guy.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
After college I go into sales, they go off to more school. They move back and become big timers, and our families stay close. Wife becomes best friends with my best friends' wives. My wife falls victim to keeping up with the Joneses, and we nearly lose our marriage, but being connected to the Joneses (the surgeons) saves our marriage and creates this opportunity we have now.
I would never have known these people if my parents didn't make me do something I didn't want to do as a teen. Thanks Mom and Dad.
Whatever it takes...yep, she is banging the surgeon friend.Hey thanks for bumping.
Great update actually:
Shortly after this we had it out, biggest fight of our lives. I thought it was over actually.
The a couple/few months later - one of the surgeon friends of mine mentioned in the OP was complaining about his staff and how his office manager quit. Without thinking I threw it out there. If it hadn't gone down exactly this way it would not have happened at all - but he went and told his wife. They knew we were in a rough patch, surgeon wife calls my wife immediately. Wife has been working for him ever since.
As it turns out this has been awesome... my wife is truly the hardest working person I know (when she is working), and has won over not only my surgeon friend but the entire practice. Raise after raise, she is now up to $90k/yr. She gets along with everyone great, gets to go to lunch with the wives, gets to take days off when we need it for the kids.. just a laid back environment.
Better yet, a couple of the docs are starting up a new genetics lab and have approached her about being their head of HR/Office manager there. Pay will be more than double.![]()
Better still - I have been able to better communicate to her that she could have more of the things WE AS A FAMILY want (nicer house, country club, vacations, etc) if she can pull back on all the spending on stupid ####. Somehow, someway she has. Looking for lots now on a new home, been on 2 vacations the last year, country club will be on the table when she starts lab job.
Imagine that.. a happily ever after story about an FFA wife. Sorry to disappoint!![]()
My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(It really changes the tone of Sheriff Bart'sMy guess is that's their MINIMUM payment (which implies a solid 5-fgures in CC debt).You mean you pay $730 in interest every month or that's your entire balance?This debt was inherited by current wife but incurred by my wonderful ex-wife. God, I hate that #####. Anyway, inheriting someone elses debt is for another thread. WE don't use the CC's. I guess you could say I was once married to the OP's wife.He said HE hasn't used it in years.He said they haven't used it in years.I feel your pain. We have $730 in credit card paymentsa month.![]()
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Part time at 4 and 6, then quit, then back full time in this position at 5 and 7 if I recall correctly.How old was the kid (or children) when the wife went back to work?
See my post above - I've gone from doing very well but having no control over the budget with the wife, to having half of the take home I used to but complete control over everything I spend.My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(It really changes the tone of Sheriff Bart'sMy guess is that's their MINIMUM payment (which implies a solid 5-fgures in CC debt).You mean you pay $730 in interest every month or that's your entire balance?This debt was inherited by current wife but incurred by my wonderful ex-wife. God, I hate that #####. Anyway, inheriting someone elses debt is for another thread. WE don't use the CC's. I guess you could say I was once married to the OP's wife.He said HE hasn't used it in years.He said they haven't used it in years.I feel your pain. We have $730 in credit card paymentsa month.![]()
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Wat? You know Amex can cap spending on a card?My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(
My notebook indicates you're a stay at home Dad, is that incorrect?If my wife ever decided to stop working, I'd divorce her instantly. No way I'm going to be stuck with either a wife that just sits around all day or paying alimony.
GordonGekko said:When Otis used to talk about the era before he met his current wife, he would talk about how he cheated on every last one of them. But that when he met his wife, it all changed, because she was the "hottest" or the premium of them all.I should've let whoever is running Gecko run with it for a bit.
Nothing kills threads faster than good news.
That's not a "character" change, that's a "circumstance" change.
Put Otis' wife in a massive car accident or some situation where she ends up 350 pounds or disfigured, and give it enough time, and that character will eventually pull through the mask. He'll be right back to cheating.
The "circumstance" is right now, his wife is young and nice looking and the envy of some people he knows. That circumstance might and does and could change. It wouldn't be the first time that someone with a real problem with the concept of fidelity ended up trading in their old model for the newer shinier model a few years down the road.
Did your wife have a change in CHARACTER or did she have a change in CIRCUMSTANCE?
A change in character would be if there was no sweetheart job with big pay, and she suddenly stopped and said to herself that she had to start considering what was best for the kids, the marriage and the family unit. She would have sat down and talked to you, not blamed you for the situation. She would have put the kids first, not made herself the primary consideration when under duress.
What she got was a change in circumstance. And what if that new job situation doesn't work out. What if the one she has doesn't work out. What then?
What she has proven is when times were tough, things were under duress, when stress was up, she chose herself. Above you, above your marriage, above your kids. It's when a person is at their lowest, when they are struggling, when they are suffering, when they are in pain, that's when you see, by their actions, their character emerge.
It would be a "happy story" if she chose to do what was right for your marriage and your family when it was the hardest thing in the world for her to do. Not when she could finally support her spending habits and still feel validated by her social circle.
When those circumstances change, you will have to deal with her character again, but then her character was made clear the last time you two had to duke it out over money.
It's your life, your choice, but is this what you want to teach your kids?
How can you have love without respect? How can you have respect without a basic sense of dignity? That's what you are teaching them.
If you believe this is a happy ending, then I feel sorry for your children.
Incorrecto mundo. That would be quite hypocritical of me considering I'd be just sitting around all day.My notebook indicates you're a stay at home Dad, is that incorrect?If my wife ever decided to stop working, I'd divorce her instantly. No way I'm going to be stuck with either a wife that just sits around all day or paying alimony.
Couldn't have said it better myself.GordonGekko said:When Otis used to talk about the era before he met his current wife, he would talk about how he cheated on every last one of them. But that when he met his wife, it all changed, because she was the "hottest" or the premium of them all.I should've let whoever is running Gecko run with it for a bit.
Nothing kills threads faster than good news.
That's not a "character" change, that's a "circumstance" change.
Put Otis' wife in a massive car accident or some situation where she ends up 350 pounds or disfigured, and give it enough time, and that character will eventually pull through the mask. He'll be right back to cheating.
The "circumstance" is right now, his wife is young and nice looking and the envy of some people he knows. That circumstance might and does and could change. It wouldn't be the first time that someone with a real problem with the concept of fidelity ended up trading in their old model for the newer shinier model a few years down the road.
Did your wife have a change in CHARACTER or did she have a change in CIRCUMSTANCE?
A change in character would be if there was no sweetheart job with big pay, and she suddenly stopped and said to herself that she had to start considering what was best for the kids, the marriage and the family unit. She would have sat down and talked to you, not blamed you for the situation. She would have put the kids first, not made herself the primary consideration when under duress.
What she got was a change in circumstance. And what if that new job situation doesn't work out. What if the one she has doesn't work out. What then?
What she has proven is when times were tough, things were under duress, when stress was up, she chose herself. Above you, above your marriage, above your kids. It's when a person is at their lowest, when they are struggling, when they are suffering, when they are in pain, that's when you see, by their actions, their character emerge.
It would be a "happy story" if she chose to do what was right for your marriage and your family when it was the hardest thing in the world for her to do. Not when she could finally support her spending habits and still feel validated by her social circle.
When those circumstances change, you will have to deal with her character again, but then her character was made clear the last time you two had to duke it out over money.
It's your life, your choice, but is this what you want to teach your kids?
How can you have love without respect? How can you have respect without a basic sense of dignity? That's what you are teaching them.
If you believe this is a happy ending, then I feel sorry for your children.
30/6=5 5*12 = $60 - how does this equate to needing a $1MM job? My amex bill is easily that every month and i don't make anywhere near the $1MM.Wat? You know Amex can cap spending on a card?My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(
I don't know what you take home, but if it is less than at least $1M gross, you need to fix that.
If you earn $500k and come home with $300k, your wife is basically lighting 20% of your take home on fire a year.
Got to factor in your watch budget.30/6=5 5*12 = $60 - how does this equate to needing a $1MM job? My amex bill is easily that every month and i don't make anywhere near the $1MM.Wat? You know Amex can cap spending on a card?My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(
I don't know what you take home, but if it is less than at least $1M gross, you need to fix that.
If you earn $500k and come home with $300k, your wife is basically lighting 20% of your take home on fire a year.
His statement leads you to believe that his wife is basically spending $5k a month shopping on non-essentials (shoes, clothes, etc.), that's at least how it read to me. It certainly doesn't read that she spent $30k in the last 6 months, but $20k went to jr's school tuition or something like that. $60k a year on nonsense would equal 20% of $500k gross/$300k net - That would be an abundance of compounding waste IMO. Even at 10%, I'd consider it obnoxious, but more bearable.30/6=5 5*12 = $60 - how does this equate to needing a $1MM job? My amex bill is easily that every month and i don't make anywhere near the $1MM.Wat? You know Amex can cap spending on a card?My wife has put about 30k on the cc the last 6 months. I pay it in full every month because I ball so hard but FML. :(
I don't know what you take home, but if it is less than at least $1M gross, you need to fix that.
If you earn $500k and come home with $300k, your wife is basically lighting 20% of your take home on fire a year.